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Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it

 
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It was not that unusual since most of the Africans had not been in country that long, only since 1776. Many of the colonies did not allow slavery before 1776. So we are talking 1776 to 1865 Africans.
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lies, he was not part of the movement of people freeing slaves and setting them up elsewhere. a lot of the quotes above are wrong and a lot are right, but he was not a player in the african colonization.

how about this: $500 if you can prove lincoln was active in the colonization of africa by former black slaves
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Im pretty sure that I posted stuff here along these lines . I certainly posted the articles somewhere .
As I remember he wanted the africans to be sent back to africa or to a special island paradise where they can create another society in their own ways .

He was all for the segregation because he just did not see the two cultures being compatiable down the line in American society .
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Im pretty sure that I posted stuff here along these lines . I certainly posted the articles somewhere .
As I remember he wanted the africans to be sent back to africa or to a special island paradise where they can create another society in their own ways .

He was all for the segregation because he just did not see the two cultures being compatiable down the line in American society .
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He did not want the two races/species to socialize
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Im pretty sure that I posted stuff here along these lines . I certainly posted the articles somewhere .
As I remember he wanted the africans to be sent back to africa or to a special island paradise where they can create another society in their own ways .

He was all for the segregation because he just did not see the two cultures being compatiable down the line in American society .
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segregation doesn't equal shipping them off. it was a very small group of abolitionist that had some wacky idea that they could use freed slaves to colonize coastal africa into friendly african colonies.

the descendants of these abolitionists of course took advantage of it (ie read firestone), but all in all it was a very small group. lincoln wasn't part of it. yes he was pro abolition, yet (as quoted) he realized that the union was more important than freeing the slaves and was 100% ready to reunite instead of emancipation.

a lot of people don't realize that the civil war started when the election results of lincoln winning came in! he wasn't even inaugurated yet, much less emancipated the slaves. freeing slaves came years later after thousands of white people died fighting the rebels
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:linco:
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Thank you for posting this, It is true.
Lincoln WAS a separatist.

Many slaves that were able to write sent letters to Pres. Lincoln to not force freedom on them because they liked their jobs, many even liked their masters and they didn't know how to support themselves or know where to go live.

I would guess that slave life in America was better than batting a thousand flies of your kids eyes while starving in Africa.
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honest Abe
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That's why Liberia was founded.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Liberia is in BAD shape.. and you can't blame that on whitey
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Lincoln wanted to repatriate the slaves to Africa, but the plan never took hold because the country didn't have enough ships to transport 3+ million people in any kind of timely fashion.
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We do now...

And catapults...we still have catapults .....
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Lincoln wanted to repatriate the slaves to Africa, but the plan never took hold because the country didn't have enough ships to transport 3+ million people in any kind of timely fashion.
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^^^Truth^^^

Lincoln sincerely believed they would be better off in Africa.
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Im pretty sure that I posted stuff here along these lines . I certainly posted the articles somewhere .
As I remember he wanted the africans to be sent back to africa or to a special island paradise where they can create another society in their own ways .

He was all for the segregation because he just did not see the two cultures being compatiable down the line in American society .
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He did not want the two races/species to socialize
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That was not his goal.
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I will send you $100 (by paypal or personal check) if you can prove this wrong:

Abraham Lincoln 'wanted to deport slaves' to new colonies

Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged.


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

ogrrr

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That's not news, that's American history.
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It's truth and is it STORMFRONT DAY on GLP?
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So today we celebrate freedom on July 4th every year even as our energy is literally stolen and controlled through inflation and taxation, control of all movement and association by uniformed thugs and ultimately threatened with loss of all energy/assets and containment in a cage if you do not render unto Caesar every April 15th.

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Care to explain how your freedom of movement or how your personal liberty of association is is constrained?
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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So you are saying that America should have only Native Americans, the only people native to this Country.
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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So you are saying that America should have only Native Americans, the only people native to this Country.
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News flash for ya ... everybodies' forefatheres are from somewhere else ... natives are those whose forefathers wiped out those that preceeded them, and were smart enough to not write it down, or disclose outside their own community the oral history of what actually happened.
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Blacks and whites can not live together. They are "wired" differently.
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Choices... the BLACK CHOSE to come to America from africa... and they KNEW what type of work would be available.

It was the DEMOCRATS that started the KKK look it up.

Then it ALL became about VOTES.

We welcome everyone in the USA..... wonder what the USA would be like if we never OPENED OUR ARMS into our private home USA and let any person come in.

That is what we have today

Go to your front door... and see if you OPEN IT WIDE... and say come to my home for free....the tired poor homeless lazy and the crimals....no problem we will help you.

Don't have Money Don't worry my hubby will pay.

Don't have Insurance don't worry my hubby will pay.

Don't want to work... don't worry... we will give you every thing you need

Don't have Food clothing or shelter... don't worry my hubby will pay.....

my hubby the USA Tax Payer....

Welcome ALL.... the tired poor and the crimals....
no problem we will help you.

So this is where we are today.


History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.

An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbu More..ilders and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.


Think about it.... is that what we should be doing.

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My ex husband worked in both white and black schools prior to integration.

Believe me... blacks are a totally different mind set...
they are from mars we are from venus....

They are a DIFFERNT RACE.... STOP tyring to CHANGE a RACE of people who are differnt... now that is discrimination...

.....our INSTANTANCE that they become white race.

This is wrong.

Blacks and whites can not live together. They are "wired" differently.
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he was right.

they function better on their homeland.
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Wow I thought Lincoln Taught That all men were created Equal and That He wanted to free The Slaves.

I guess I have it all Backwards and The Jesuits Killed Him because They Liked Him too Much, for destroying their slave trade's.

Wow you really learn something New Everyday

Next thing you Know People will be running around saying WW2 never happened and The Jewish People Just had a Tea Party with The Vatican's Puppet Hitler where: they harmlessly farted on each other and Died From being so Incredibly Happy with the way they were treated.

Seriously though anyone could forge a Document: especially around or after the time of death.
We would have to be very Naive to believe He wasn't surrounded by Secret Society types, Him being the President.
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he was right.

they function better on their homeland.
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ogrrr
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Abe Lincoln had a Son, named Abe Lincoln Jr and He was also Murdered.

By way of Poison...........

Have a Feeling Nobody wanted another Honest President
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Abe Lincoln had a Son, named Abe Lincoln Jr and He was also Murdered.

By way of Poison...........

Have a Feeling Nobody wanted another Honest President
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it happens
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The view we are never taught today is the fact that everybody in America in the 1860s hated black people, not just the southerners. Only a minority of true abolitionists (roughly 10%) believed that black people were humans who deserved equal rights. These people were seen as religious nutcases by other people.

After the Gettysburg Address, Illinois, Indiana and many other Northern states passed laws that prohibited free black men from entering their states.

Slavery was a very important issue at that time, but the issue of slavery was never about the rights and welfare of black people. It was about the rights and welfare of WHITE people. Lincoln was NOT an abolitionist, but he was Anti-Slavery. The difference being abolitionists cared about the well-being of black people. Anti-slavery was a political movement to create jobs for WHITE people in the South, as well as hurt the economy of the South, which was perceived as a threat.

The first step was to abolish slavery, and the second step was to forcibly deport all black people to either Liberia, Central America or Haiti. Liberia was created by Henry Clay and the American Colonization Society for the purposes of deporting all American black people. (Henry Clay was Lincoln's idol).

You have to realize, Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren did this to all Native Americans only a few years earlier. This was not a radical and shocking idea. The "Sail of Tears" would have gone through if Lincoln had not been assassinated.

One deal to establish a colony in Haiti already had fallen through after the US government bought land to establish this colony. However, the person who sold the land, didn't actually own the land and ran off with the money. Thus, the deportation was put on hold until more funds could be raised.

A few weeks before Lincoln was murdered, he met with several people about attempting the deportation process again.

Lincoln frequently flip-flopped on the issue of slavery in debates and only said what would win him the popular support. He is actually very similar to most politicians today (notably Obama) on his rhetoric and lack of decisiveness. On top of that, he had no authority to free the slaves; however, he was actually a dictator during most of his presidency as he usurped congressional power during wartime.




Happy Early President's Day




Here's a fun Lincoln quote to Black Community Leaders


“See our present condition—the country engaged in war! Our White men cutting one another’s throats! And then consider what we know to be the truth. But for your race among us there could not be war, although many men engaged on either side do not care for you one way or another. “Why should the people of your race be colonized, and where? Why should they leave this country? This is, perhaps, the first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this be admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated. It is better for both, therefore, to be separated.” [bold face mine]

— Spoken at the White House to a group of black community leaders, August 14th, 1862



For a true hero of abolitionists and the well-being of black people, look-up Lemuel Haynes. He was a great man who often gets overshadowed by phonies like Lincoln, who hijacked the cause for political purposes. (Although Haynes lived many years before Lincoln, our minds and institutions still overshadow people like him with Lincoln).

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After that Bus Ride on
Greyhound...Who could blame him?
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bump for truth
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Is it too late?
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Heh heh
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I will send you $100 (by paypal or personal check) if you can prove this wrong:

Abraham Lincoln 'wanted to deport slaves' to new colonies

Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged.


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

ogrrr

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Lincoln did not want blacks and whites to socialize together. fact.

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