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UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!

 
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Where are GLP's "libertarian" big guns?

always thumping their chests for Dr. Paul??

hmmm,
no trials for no_racial_epithets_4_Us.....GOOD
no trials for Militia / Aryan nations ..... BAD

what's bigger? your hatred of muzzies or your love for your white brothers?

brain cells exploding 4...3..2..1..
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I suspect McCain is a terrorist.

Now what? Does he get to GO BACK TO A CONCRETE CELL and eat Prison Guard snot for a while again? Until somebody gets him out? But who will get him out this time?

Hypocrisy!
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McCain is a big government progressive that thinks he can take care of us better than we can take care of ourselves. Progressives think the Constitution is an obstacle in the way them doing what they consider to be right. Apparently they do not remember the oath they took when they were sworn in. Vote them out next November.
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If I was a permanent media darling senator married to a hot multimillionaire beer goddess, I'd get pretty full of myself too.

But I'd be busy doing stuff a lot more fun than jerking off Democrats in Congress.
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Well with his penguin arms he can't do his wife
properly. Maybe he just gets bj's from Barney frank.
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Where are GLP's "libertarian" big guns?

always thumping their chests for Dr. Paul??

hmmm,
no trials for no_racial_epithets_4_Us.....GOOD
no trials for Militia / Aryan nations ..... BAD

what's bigger? your hatred of muzzies or your love for your white brothers?

brain cells exploding 4...3..2..1..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2954256


Huh? He's not saying "no trials" for anyone...he's saying he doesn't want our government cherry picking who gets a public trial with a jury of their peers and who gets tried by a closed-door military tribunal. Oh, and they get to define "terrorist" however they please. Hate to break it to you, but just posting here would be considered unpatriotic to a lot of the paranoid PTB. A lot of innocent people who are simply voicing their opinions about the way things suck will disappear without a trace if this bill passes. Hope I didn't explode the rest of your brain cells with the truth.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Pray that they aren't allowed to dismantle the Bill of Rights. I don't know what the heck is going on with McCain, but I think it might have been a discussion that occurred at the Bohemian Grove last July. How awful.
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I think it came from that last brick of cash he and 2 of his peers got from some cartel. He knows didn't serve in Vietnam for this, screwing over the American public. But still he got it; so anybody who finds out, "terrorist" label, and then censored, even from the press, since this is about civilian trials. Two words: chicken shit. Should have just stood up to Bush Jr. and cut his losses, instead of cutting losses on the public. The things people do for friendship.

Civilians need their fair holding of power, and don't deserve to be lorded over by a sword when they have opted to keep the pen. This is imbalanced.
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McCain just needs to be out pasture along with Rand's Dad Dr Magoogletard and all them other lifer chair pilot politicos in congress...I really like Rand Paul, he's freakin rational and he's been a solid Senator so far.
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McCains father covered up the USS Liberty incident.
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Manchurian Candidate = Sirhan Sirhan = John McCain
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I suspect McCain is a terrorist.

Now what? Does he get to GO BACK TO A CONCRETE CELL and eat Prison Guard snot for a while again? Until somebody gets him out? But who will get him out this time?

Hypocrisy!
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BTW, many other POWs thought he was stool pigeon and weak minded.

At this point McCain is probably an honorary member of the Irgun
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I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
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But as usual, the bastard and those like him will ignore public opinion. They have their NWO agenda to push.
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Where are GLP's "libertarian" big guns?

always thumping their chests for Dr. Paul??

hmmm,
no trials for no_racial_epithets_4_Us.....GOOD
no trials for Militia / Aryan nations ..... BAD

what's bigger? your hatred of muzzies or your love for your white brothers?

brain cells exploding 4...3..2..1..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2954256


Huh? He's not saying "no trials" for anyone...he's saying he doesn't want our government cherry picking who gets a public trial with a jury of their peers and who gets tried by a closed-door military tribunal. Oh, and they get to define "terrorist" however they please. Hate to break it to you, but just posting here would be considered unpatriotic to a lot of the paranoid PTB. A lot of innocent people who are simply voicing their opinions about the way things suck will disappear without a trace if this bill passes. Hope I didn't explode the rest of your brain cells with the truth.
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Here's the real problem with all these types of bills, laws, legislation etc etc...

They forgot to pass THE most important law first...the "You are not allowed to be a stupid dickface and abuse the power" law...Bill SHR-13 which died in committee..of course...

In a perfect world?..all these laws would be used properly in the manner of a proper tool to stop and or catch people who are actually breaking real laws and or intend to do real life gross harm to the US or it's citizens.

But Since our gov't is mostly infested with a bunch of dumbass bureaucrats who have not passed the "You must not be a retard to use this" law?...they don't get to have blanket deep reaching powers that could be used to invade citizens privacy because they will do what they have always done, abuse the tools and screw people over.
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This really pisses me off. Since when is there a terrorist on every corner? I think people are finally waking up to this scare tactic they are trying to pull on us in order to take more and more rights away.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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I don't know if anyone's noticed...but voting isn't working. The "voters" are brain dead, with the exception of a small percentage that still have the capability of thinking. Each time they put someone else in the mantra is "we neeeeeed someone who cares" and each time we get someone worse...they wanted bush out cause he was a jerk...and wallah...now we have an even bigger better jerk.
What does it take for people to see the truth? Sad fact...they never will. just my three cents worth.
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Go Rand!
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This really pisses me off. Since when is there a terrorist on every corner? I think people are finally waking up to this scare tactic they are trying to pull on us in order to take more and more rights away.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


There isn't, however real terrorists do exist, contrary to what some believe around here.

We do need the apparatus to catch real "bad guys"...we just need some common sense and respect for law abiding citizens while we do it...it shouldn't really be that hard...but when dealing with the Washington bureaucracy it always is.
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this should be a clear indication to anti-ron paul types of what they unwittingly are trying to bring to their country. all the presidential candidates, except RP, are under the same mentality and control that McCain is. Ron Paul is for freedom. Any of the other candidates is for a fascist dictatorship, regardless of what they claim (lie).
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Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

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Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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If they allow this to pass, we should start with Obama, voila, good by Obama!
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Mcain himself admits to having been psychologically inundated by his NVA captors and was probably subconsiously programmed to follow this Communist agenda sometime in his future, which turns out to be NOW! He is now proving that he is INDEED a Manchurian Candidate as he does his msster's bidding in an attempt to bring a Communist state to America and complete the Red victory over the US!
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Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

[link to thehill.com]

Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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If they allow this to pass, we should start with Obama, voila, good by Obama!
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Under this Bill if enacted several years ago, anyone backing Nelson Mandela and the ANC would had subject to arrest for supporting a State Dept defined terrorist organization. That includes Obama who supported ANC and Mandela at that time.

This bill is very similar to one man on vote once. Once the circle is closed , the rules change and tyranny rules.
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Think FEMA camps! Round up the disenters and silence the voice....Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists!

Hmmm where have I heard that before??
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McCain the biggest coward that ever lived and a disgrace to the military

aid and abet the enemy for better teatment, ratted on his own country men and america almost made him president, lmao


the dumbest muthafuckers on earth=americans
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There isn't, however real terrorists do exist



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Your right about that.

Created out of the Whitehouse, City of London and Tel Aviv

The biggest threat to these insane lunatics is an outbreak of peace in the world... they are terrified of that
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Mcain himself admits to having been psychologically inundated by his NVA captors and was probably subconsiously programmed to follow this Communist agenda sometime in his future, which turns out to be NOW! He is now proving that he is INDEED a Manchurian Candidate as he does his msster's bidding in an attempt to bring a Communist state to America and complete the Red victory over the US!
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There isn't, however real terrorists do exist



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Your right about that.

Created out of the Whitehouse, City of London and Tel Aviv

The biggest threat to these insane lunatics is an outbreak of peace in the world... they are terrified of that
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I suggest you don't play with anything "Pointy"...
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There isn't, however real terrorists do exist, contrary to what some believe around here.

We do need the apparatus to catch real "bad guys"...we just need some common sense and respect for law abiding citizens while we do it...it shouldn't really be that hard...but when dealing with the Washington bureaucracy it always is.
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The only problem with that analogy is when the "bad guys" hold positions of authority, write the laws, and use the violence of the State to back them up.

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I can't say 'I can't believe this.' Of course THEY would want this to go in effect. Shutup all the people who have got their heads on straight, the ones using their heads at all. Really, what would this mean for GLP? What kind of real American would stand for this bill??? Maybe the sheeple will WANT more freedoms taken away. They might say only Americans who have 'something to hide' won't like this bill. They already call 9/11 truthers 'un-American.' They might actually go right along with this, just as many might actually go along with a global government. With us or with the terrorists???? Ughhhh fucking stupid sheeple.....let's give em a wake up call while we still can!
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McCains father covered up the USS Liberty incident.
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wow. didn't know that. and John McCain wrote the forward to Popular Mechanics Debunking 9/11 Myths
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I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
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McCain is a huge POS.
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Huge isn't strong or big enough. How about a vile piece of shit. He throws out that word 'terrorism' and everyone is just supposed to give up their liberties.
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If 100 U.S. Senators all voted in favor of the bill the dictatorship would look too obvious no wouldn't it?

Rand Paul is a masonic tool just like the rest. Just because he is speaking for the Americans this time does not make him not one of the dictatorship.
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If 100 U.S. Senators all voted in favor of the bill the dictatorship would look too obvious no wouldn't it?

Rand Paul is a masonic tool just like the rest. Just because he is speaking for the Americans this time does not make him not one of the dictatorship.
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