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UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!

 
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Did the house pass it?
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At least we have one voice in the Senate screaming for us the "Average American"!
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That's 1 vs 99.

I hope Chuck Norris shows up to help Rand.
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We best hope ole Chuck shows up to help ole dad, Ron! Honestly, at least we'll have veto power over this BS!

All the Paul haters, or simply the "he can't win crowd" wanna change teams now? This is what we're up against and the Paul's are all we got......rockypaul
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NOBODY GETS IT THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT IS DEFACTO WHICH IS UNLAWFUL ,UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THEY ALL KNOW IT ALL OF THEM ARE OUTLAWS TO THE LAW OF THE LAND THE CONSTITUTION. the white rose
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The Paul Boy's are true patriots...bump
 Quoting: Elsabiades.... 2310768




No they aren't.

This is all THEATRE. You have been DUPED.

The Paul boys are merely actors on the stage, just like the rest of those fuckers. And you people lap it all up, every drop.

SOMEBODY has to play the other side -- otherwise there is no Hegelian dialectic and no "debate."
 Quoting: ANONYMOUS 1486221


Believe what you want, but without the Paul's where is this "Hegelian dialectic" and "debate"? There is none!
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So, let me get this right... 61 old, white, decrepit, war-mongering, bankster-hugging, "patriots" say that the military can arrest you in your home against their oath because they say so, and you are going to sit there and let them?????

I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE!! YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES BY STANDING IDLY BY VOTING THESE TERRORIST CRIMINAL BANKER/POLITICIANS IN WITHOUT FINDING OUT WHAT THESE PEOPLE STAND FOR. YOU SHEEP DISGUST ME IN YOUR LEAD-ME-TO-SLAUGHTER WAYS.

YOU BEG FOR RIGHTS LIKE GUNS, AND SPEECH, ASSEMBLY, TRAVEL, AND THE LIKE--YET YOU PISS THOSE VERY LIBERTIES AWAY BY NOT DOING ONE FUCKING OUNCE OF RESEARCH ON THOSE WHO YOU ENTRUST OVER US TO PROTECT THOSE LIBERTIES!!

There is nothing left for you to do except to wait for them to knock(kick down) on your door so you can willingly hand over your guns, silver, and food; be rounded up and taken to you nearest day camp and take a nice gas nap.

I BETTER NOT HEAR ONE MOTHER FUCKING COMPLAINT FROM ANY OF YOU BECAUSE THIS IS ON YOU!

I did my part to try to stop this train wreck starting years ago, now all I can do is prep my family and friends.

I hold no hatred or blame to sheeple, but in the very near future, when it is time to look out for number one, remember that all of our past and present actions have an equal and opposite reaction.
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What the fuck are you blabbing about? Nobody here likes McCain and most of us aren't from Arizona to vote him out.

Did you vote for Obama?
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Well, at least two Republicans in Congress aren't fascists -- both Pauls.
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Im not trying to be mean but your incorrectly classifying congress as fascists.

Look up what fascism is (hint: unifying the people on race or culture - think Aryans).

What they are doing is more like totalitarinism.
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I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
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people represent themselves from what they do more than what they say. The man's treatment of a wife that waited for him to return home and then his dumping his wife really is no different than a country that awaited his return just for him to dump on just about everything else and now it is our country. The man was a loser, and is still a loser and the sad part is this loser will go down in history that couldn't win against a larger loser. Being a loser to a loser is his mark in history.

I hope that our senators have the brain to realize what they will unleash if they pass this piece of trash.
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My main point.

WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOW WHEN TYPING MESSAGES (on this forum and elsewhere).

It hurts my heart to have to type this but if passed our reality becomes even scarier. Be careful of the things you say about big brother, being too critical (pitch fork talk) or gung-ho - even if your joking. Don't give them a reason...

Last Edited by ScottFlex on 11/29/2011 08:25 PM
"We must all hang together or surely we will all hang separately."

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Guys,

Please stop with the Liberal Progressive vs. Conservative bullshit. It's getting old.

These people are GLOBALIST. They are raping the country and stealing our Rights. They KNOW some of us are waking up and will resist. THAT'S WHY this law is being passed. They consider YOU the enemy.

The time has come to choose sides. It's not Liberal vs. Conservative. It's Globalist vs. Patriots. Submit and support or Resist and Fight.
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How true. That's also how zionist took over the jewish religion. Call them like they are Globalist. I will always be a Patriot.
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McCain sold his soul awhile back and they are just using the fool to push their agenda. He is a perfect example for kicking them all out of office.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Did the house pass it?
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How the fuck can the senate pass a bill without the house passing it first? WTF?
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bump

This is so scary!
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West Start just squirted diarrhea out of his mouth instead of his ass. Incontinence is a part of what he can expect, and is the least of his worries.

I heard he just cashed another AIPAC check. You do realize that they are really the ones who "hate us for our freedom," dont you? Thats why they are working with their paid sellouts in the us.gov to take away those freedoms as quickly as possible.
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McCain is a douche!!!




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McCain is an idiot, no one speaks of the detainees, WE SPEAK OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTRY LOSING OUR RIGHTS.
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Yes I changed the update to the correct one...the Mccain section we are all concerned about passed and is staying in the final bill.

Sorry for the confusion.
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My main point.

WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOW WHEN TYPING MESSAGES (on this forum and elsewhere).

It hurts my heart to have to type this but if passed our reality becomes even scarier. Be careful of the things you say about big brother, being too critical (pitch fork talk) or gung-ho - even if your joking. Don't give them a reason...
 Quoting: ScottFlex


I hate to say it but you're right. I guess we'll see soon enough what those mailbox stickers really mean...
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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I heard Obama is going to veto it.
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McCain is a douche!!!
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^This^

A statist douche-supreme.
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The Paul Boy's are true patriots...bump
 Quoting: Elsabiades.... 2310768




No they aren't.

This is all THEATRE. You have been DUPED.

The Paul boys are merely actors on the stage, just like the rest of those fuckers. And you people lap it all up, every drop.

SOMEBODY has to play the other side -- otherwise there is no Hegelian dialectic and no "debate."
 Quoting: ANONYMOUS 1486221


Believe what you want, but without the Paul's where is this "Hegelian dialectic" and "debate"? There is none!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6260589


So where is your PROOF the Pauls are actors? You gonna post the globlist speech you did yesterday that I tore apart, maybe the satan salute love sign???

Playing the other side would be actors Mitt and Newt. Do I really have to post the proof on this, I will if you'd like but Im sure you KNOW their faults.

As for Paul, he is being ignored by the MSM, or labelled unable to win, or called a kook, etc...

This one's for you troll (ANONYMOUS 1486221):
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I heard Obama is going to veto it.
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Why would he veto something that gives the exec. branch (His branch) the power to do this? Just like as a senator he was against the patriot act, but now he's in charge he's all for it...
"We must all hang together or surely we will all hang separately."

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So, let me get this right... 61 old, white, decrepit, war-mongering, bankster-hugging, "patriots" say that the military can arrest you in your home against their oath because they say so, and you are going to sit there and let them?????

I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE!! YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES BY STANDING IDLY BY VOTING THESE TERRORIST CRIMINAL BANKER/POLITICIANS IN WITHOUT FINDING OUT WHAT THESE PEOPLE STAND FOR. YOU SHEEP DISGUST ME IN YOUR LEAD-ME-TO-SLAUGHTER WAYS.

YOU BEG FOR RIGHTS LIKE GUNS, AND SPEECH, ASSEMBLY, TRAVEL, AND THE LIKE--YET YOU PISS THOSE VERY LIBERTIES AWAY BY NOT DOING ONE FUCKING OUNCE OF RESEARCH ON THOSE WHO YOU ENTRUST OVER US TO PROTECT THOSE LIBERTIES!!

There is nothing left for you to do except to wait for them to knock(kick down) on your door so you can willingly hand over your guns, silver, and food; be rounded up and taken to you nearest day camp and take a nice gas nap.

I BETTER NOT HEAR ONE MOTHER FUCKING COMPLAINT FROM ANY OF YOU BECAUSE THIS IS ON YOU!

I did my part to try to stop this train wreck starting years ago, now all I can do is prep my family and friends.

I hold no hatred or blame to sheeple, but in the very near future, when it is time to look out for number one, remember that all of our past and present actions have an equal and opposite reaction.
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WELL SAID MAN!!!!
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Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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^^^THIS^^^ is what happens when Liberty is given up for security.

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I see this as the start of complete anarchy. Everyone is going to start doing whatever they want to real soon.

I don't like this one bit.

Last Edited by mrroy on 11/29/2011 09:33 PM
we're here to go
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My main point.

WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOW WHEN TYPING MESSAGES (on this forum and elsewhere).

It hurts my heart to have to type this but if passed our reality becomes even scarier. Be careful of the things you say about big brother, being too critical (pitch fork talk) or gung-ho - even if your joking. Don't give them a reason...
 Quoting: ScottFlex


you're a coward
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Guys,

Please stop with the Liberal Progressive vs. Conservative bullshit. It's getting old.

These people are GLOBALIST. They are raping the country and stealing our Rights. They KNOW some of us are waking up and will resist. THAT'S WHY this law is being passed. They consider YOU the enemy.

The time has come to choose sides. It's not Liberal vs. Conservative. It's Globalist vs. Patriots. Submit and support or Resist and Fight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


I'M WITH YOU!!!!! The time will come and I think sooner then later.



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I wont be quiet, and most of the people in Southeast Missouri wont either. Lock us up, they can all go to Hell, every last one of them, and I guarantee you we wont go down without a fight. THere are alot of liberal pansies that will go along with them everyway, but they will be led to the gas chambers first, aint that ironic. I know im saved, and I know this world aint my home, so what do we have to loose. Im gonna go ahead and order my Ron Paul and my Tea Party bumper sticker, and my dont tread on me flag just to piss some more of them off.


Russia Today has an article about this situation too.

[link to rt.com]
What are the facts?
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My main point.

WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOW WHEN TYPING MESSAGES (on this forum and elsewhere).

It hurts my heart to have to type this but if passed our reality becomes even scarier. Be careful of the things you say about big brother, being too critical (pitch fork talk) or gung-ho - even if your joking. Don't give them a reason...
 Quoting: ScottFlex


you're a coward
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You're a fool for not fearing a fascist state.
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So, let me get this right... 61 old, white, decrepit, war-mongering, bankster-hugging, "patriots" say that the military can arrest you in your home against their oath because they say so, and you are going to sit there and let them?????

I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE!! YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES BY STANDING IDLY BY VOTING THESE TERRORIST CRIMINAL BANKER/POLITICIANS IN WITHOUT FINDING OUT WHAT THESE PEOPLE STAND FOR. YOU SHEEP DISGUST ME IN YOUR LEAD-ME-TO-SLAUGHTER WAYS.

YOU BEG FOR RIGHTS LIKE GUNS, AND SPEECH, ASSEMBLY, TRAVEL, AND THE LIKE--YET YOU PISS THOSE VERY LIBERTIES AWAY BY NOT DOING ONE FUCKING OUNCE OF RESEARCH ON THOSE WHO YOU ENTRUST OVER US TO PROTECT THOSE LIBERTIES!!

There is nothing left for you to do except to wait for them to knock(kick down) on your door so you can willingly hand over your guns, silver, and food; be rounded up and taken to you nearest day camp and take a nice gas nap.

I BETTER NOT HEAR ONE MOTHER FUCKING COMPLAINT FROM ANY OF YOU BECAUSE THIS IS ON YOU!

I did my part to try to stop this train wreck starting years ago, now all I can do is prep my family and friends.

I hold no hatred or blame to sheeple, but in the very near future, when it is time to look out for number one, remember that all of our past and present actions have an equal and opposite reaction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6245096


Calm down! It still has to go through the House. Besides, a year from now, no one will even remember this. That's how little effect it will have on our lives.
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I just can't believe they actually passed such a bill. How could they. this is directly against every American citizen.

We have no rights left.

I have no doubt the House will pass it too.

But we can not be afraid and not speak our minds. That will then have allowed them to win.
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So, let me get this right... 61 old, white, decrepit, war-mongering, bankster-hugging, "patriots" say that the military can arrest you in your home against their oath because they say so, and you are going to sit there and let them?????

I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE!! YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES BY STANDING IDLY BY VOTING THESE TERRORIST CRIMINAL BANKER/POLITICIANS IN WITHOUT FINDING OUT WHAT THESE PEOPLE STAND FOR. YOU SHEEP DISGUST ME IN YOUR LEAD-ME-TO-SLAUGHTER WAYS.

YOU BEG FOR RIGHTS LIKE GUNS, AND SPEECH, ASSEMBLY, TRAVEL, AND THE LIKE--YET YOU PISS THOSE VERY LIBERTIES AWAY BY NOT DOING ONE FUCKING OUNCE OF RESEARCH ON THOSE WHO YOU ENTRUST OVER US TO PROTECT THOSE LIBERTIES!!

There is nothing left for you to do except to wait for them to knock(kick down) on your door so you can willingly hand over your guns, silver, and food; be rounded up and taken to you nearest day camp and take a nice gas nap.

I BETTER NOT HEAR ONE MOTHER FUCKING COMPLAINT FROM ANY OF YOU BECAUSE THIS IS ON YOU!

I did my part to try to stop this train wreck starting years ago, now all I can do is prep my family and friends.

I hold no hatred or blame to sheeple, but in the very near future, when it is time to look out for number one, remember that all of our past and present actions have an equal and opposite reaction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6245096


Calm down! It still has to go through the House. Besides, a year from now, no one will even remember this. That's how little effect it will have on our lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6072979


Right no affect in a year from now because only the sheeple will be left. They only bah and are slaves it is the rest of us who know what is going on that will be rounded up and put in FEMA concentration camps.





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