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WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.

 
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WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.
How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
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Re: WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.
There is someone here that has run out of Korans to heat his tepee. He might be willing to recycle them.
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Re: WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.
How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6275489


What do you just start a new thread when you dont like what you here?...

You twist truth.You are obessed with hell. Your a very
strange individual

Read Revelation 22:18
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Re: WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.
How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6275489


What do you just start a new thread when you dont like what you here?...

You twist truth.You are obessed with hell. Your a very
strange individual

Read Revelation 22:18
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890



I did not twist ANY truth.

I just succeeded in FORCING the scriptures to line up with current doctrine and attitudes of your average christian.

Its christians who are OBSESSED with hell..not me..and CERTAINLY not God.

So I thought..seeing as christians are SO obsessed with it..and are obseesed with NDE's..and visions of it..well..what hard wuold it do to make those decieving visions..teachings..and doctrines LINE UP WITH SCRIPTURE?

Its embarassing not having one single solid scripture PROVING God is a Bastard..or that people CHOSE hell on purpose..

So I thought..why not MAKE some..like OTHER cults do?

What HARM could it do..after all..YOU ALREADY TEACH IT!
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There is someone here that has run out of Korans to heat his tepee. He might be willing to recycle them.
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lol...
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Think you need a new Bible, I think you should visit these links and make sure your serious and willing to learn.

[link to satanicluciferdoomed.blogspot.com]

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How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

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PLEASE quote the Bible already. That´s New Age teaching only.
So choose your side.
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Re: WE NEED A NEW BIBLE..the old one is too full of contradictions.
How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
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I have no doubt... You are possessed.
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9teen Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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:9teen: Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Then most christians are in for a real hard time of reaping then.

They spend MOST of their time telling people that God who is LOVE is also a sadistic torturing unmerciful unforgiving twisted sadists who invented every torture device ever created because they are all right there in HELL.

So that would mean the cruel heartless bastards who tortured millions during the inquisition got their idead directly from the EXPERT on torture..GOD!

I wonder how God feels about having his character and name..even his very NATURE which is LOVE so SATANICALLY SLANDERED day after day?

Yes..id say christians and catholics are in for the HARDEST TIME OF ALL.
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Hmm.. Are you going to write it?
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If God loved everybody, wouldn't the bible say that? Seems like a pretty important concept, should be in the bible.
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If God loved everybody, wouldn't the bible say that? Seems like a pretty important concept, should be in the bible.
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OH but HE DOES.

Thats why he sent his Son to PAY THE PRICE for everybody.

Let me explain.

It Is Inevitable
"Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Phil.2:9-11.

The good news of the gospel is that all mankind shall come to know the God of creation. It is inevitable.
Jesus Christ so perfectly fulfilled His mission as "Saviour of all men" (1Tim.4:10) that regardless of where we find ourselves, now or later, whether it be in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, someday we shall all bow in worship and adoration unto Him.

"There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace" (Isa.9:7).

All that is presently not under His rule will come under His rule. "The zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this." (Isa.9:7).

Why does Jesus Christ deserve all this attention? He deserves it because:

• He is God: Isa.9:6; Jn.1:1-3; Heb.1:8. + He is Creator: Jn.1:3; Col.1:16-17.
• He laid aside His privileges as God and became a man: Phil.2:7,8; Jn.17:5; Heb.2:9-18.
• He is our Saviour from sin: Tit.2:13; Isa.45:21;
• He conquered death and hell for us: 2Tim.1:10; 1Cor.15:26; Heb.2:14; Rev.1:17,18.
• He judges all men: Rom.2:16; Jn.12:44-48.

As your heart is opened to God, you will find your spirit bearing witness that these things which the Bible declares, are true (Rom.8:15,16).

Is all this acclaim for Jesus done merely to satisfy His need for attention? No, dear friend, it is done because only when we are in right relationship with God will we find real fulfillment. We are all His offspring (Ac.17:29) and need His love.

His love which never fails will draw us to Him. Jesus once made the statement, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself. But He was saying this to indicate the kind of death by which He was to die" (Jn.12:32,33).

The very reason for your reading this message now is to let you know about God’s love for you, that He has not forgotten you, and that He, right this very moment, is drawing you unto Himself.

Maybe you have thought that your good deeds will save you, or that your religious affiliation is sufficient. Dear reader, the best thing you can do is to forget these thoughts. The prophet Isaiah said, "all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment" (Isa.64:6).

Instead, entrust yourself to God’s mercy and grace revealed in Jesus Christ. Rightstanding with God "does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy" (Rom.9:16).

Since we were all born with a sin nature which comes far short of God’s glory, there is no way we can save ourselves. It is impossible! This is why God has given us the free gift of justification through Jesus Christ.

The Direct Route

The quickest way for you to know deliverance from the sin nature is for you to take Jesus Christ as your Saviour and Lord today.

"If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved: for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses resulting in salvation" (Rom.10:9,10).

The reality of your conversion will mean a changed life. You become a "dwelling place of God in the spirit" (Eph.2:22). Christ now lives in you (Gal.2:20).

He becomes your source of love, wisdom, health, strength, and whatever else you need. "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body that you should obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.

For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law, but under grace" (Rom.6:12-14). The alternative is…..

The Circuitous Painful Route

You can harden your heart to the gospel of Jesus Christ. "There is a way which seemeth right unto man, but its end is the way of death" (Prv.16:25). Then "Your own wickedness will correct you, and your apostasies will reprove you." (Jer.2:19).

Scripture reveals that God has chastisements to correct and reprove every iniquity of man. God took the kingdom of the proud and wealthy Nebuchadnezzar away and give him the heart of a beast until he repented (Dan.4).

God appointed a great fish to correct Jonah’s stubbornness (Jon.1). The father let the prodigal son go his way until he came to the end of his self-centeredness (Lk.15:11-30). The apostle Paul turned a man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh that his spirit may be saved (1Cor.15:5).

Some people are saved "only through fire" (1Cor.3:15). God, who is a consuming fire (Heb.10:29) has all the fire necessary and will provide whatever fire is needed. In any case the outcome is secure for God declares, "I will accomplish all My good pleasure" (Isa.46:11).

Jesus Christ shall reign over creation until all creation is in subjection to Himself in the same way that He is in subjection to God the Father, that God may be all in all (1Cor.15:22-28).

Our Prayer For You

Dear friend, our prayer is that you come to Jesus Christ the direct route. Since it is inevitable that you will bow before Him, why not do it today? Our lives on this earth are so futile when compared to the marvelous privilege of knowing God, the inner peace that comes through the forgiveness of sins, and the many benefits of salvation now in this life. His plan of reconciliation encompasses all creation, including you (Col.1:16-20). Since God is no longer counting your trespasses against you (2cor.5:19) "we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God" (2Cor.5:20).
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OH but HE DOES.

Thats why he sent his Son to PAY THE PRICE for everybody.

Let me explain.

It Is Inevitable
"Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Phil.2:9-11.

The good news of the gospel is that all mankind shall come to know the God of creation. It is inevitable.
Jesus Christ so perfectly fulfilled His mission as "Saviour of all men" (1Tim.4:10) that regardless of where we find ourselves, now or later, whether it be in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, someday we shall all bow in worship and adoration unto Him.

"There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace" (Isa.9:7).

All that is presently not under His rule will come under His rule. "The zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this." (Isa.9:7).

Why does Jesus Christ deserve all this attention? He deserves it because:

• He is God: Isa.9:6; Jn.1:1-3; Heb.1:8. + He is Creator: Jn.1:3; Col.1:16-17.
• He laid aside His privileges as God and became a man: Phil.2:7,8; Jn.17:5; Heb.2:9-18.
• He is our Saviour from sin: Tit.2:13; Isa.45:21;
• He conquered death and hell for us: 2Tim.1:10; 1Cor.15:26; Heb.2:14; Rev.1:17,18.
• He judges all men: Rom.2:16; Jn.12:44-48.

As your heart is opened to God, you will find your spirit bearing witness that these things which the Bible declares, are true (Rom.8:15,16).

Is all this acclaim for Jesus done merely to satisfy His need for attention? No, dear friend, it is done because only when we are in right relationship with God will we find real fulfillment. We are all His offspring (Ac.17:29) and need His love.

His love which never fails will draw us to Him. Jesus once made the statement, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself. But He was saying this to indicate the kind of death by which He was to die" (Jn.12:32,33).

The very reason for your reading this message now is to let you know about God’s love for you, that He has not forgotten you, and that He, right this very moment, is drawing you unto Himself.

Maybe you have thought that your good deeds will save you, or that your religious affiliation is sufficient. Dear reader, the best thing you can do is to forget these thoughts. The prophet Isaiah said, "all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment" (Isa.64:6).

Instead, entrust yourself to God’s mercy and grace revealed in Jesus Christ. Rightstanding with God "does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy" (Rom.9:16).

Since we were all born with a sin nature which comes far short of God’s glory, there is no way we can save ourselves. It is impossible! This is why God has given us the free gift of justification through Jesus Christ.

The Direct Route

The quickest way for you to know deliverance from the sin nature is for you to take Jesus Christ as your Saviour and Lord today.

"If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved: for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses resulting in salvation" (Rom.10:9,10).

The reality of your conversion will mean a changed life. You become a "dwelling place of God in the spirit" (Eph.2:22). Christ now lives in you (Gal.2:20).

He becomes your source of love, wisdom, health, strength, and whatever else you need. "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body that you should obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.

For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law, but under grace" (Rom.6:12-14). The alternative is…..

The Circuitous Painful Route

You can harden your heart to the gospel of Jesus Christ. "There is a way which seemeth right unto man, but its end is the way of death" (Prv.16:25). Then "Your own wickedness will correct you, and your apostasies will reprove you." (Jer.2:19).

Scripture reveals that God has chastisements to correct and reprove every iniquity of man. God took the kingdom of the proud and wealthy Nebuchadnezzar away and give him the heart of a beast until he repented (Dan.4).

God appointed a great fish to correct Jonah’s stubbornness (Jon.1). The father let the prodigal son go his way until he came to the end of his self-centeredness (Lk.15:11-30). The apostle Paul turned a man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh that his spirit may be saved (1Cor.15:5).

Some people are saved "only through fire" (1Cor.3:15). God, who is a consuming fire (Heb.10:29) has all the fire necessary and will provide whatever fire is needed. In any case the outcome is secure for God declares, "I will accomplish all My good pleasure" (Isa.46:11).

Jesus Christ shall reign over creation until all creation is in subjection to Himself in the same way that He is in subjection to God the Father, that God may be all in all (1Cor.15:22-28).

Our Prayer For You

Dear friend, our prayer is that you come to Jesus Christ the direct route. Since it is inevitable that you will bow before Him, why not do it today? Our lives on this earth are so futile when compared to the marvelous privilege of knowing God, the inner peace that comes through the forgiveness of sins, and the many benefits of salvation now in this life. His plan of reconciliation encompasses all creation, including you (Col.1:16-20). Since God is no longer counting your trespasses against you (2cor.5:19) "we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God"
(2Cor.5:20).
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How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

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PLEASE quote the Bible already. That´s New Age teaching only.
So choose your side.
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The bible WAS quoted in the same way you preach it.

Which is new age?

What OP posted or what you teach?

They are one and the same.

So if anyone is being new age here its YOU.
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Hmm.. Are you going to write it?
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Someone might as well.

Its already preached worldwide.

Its high time the scriptures were made to line up with what is taught dont you think?

The contradictions are too obvious..they NEED to be erased.
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Are you sure it's a good idea to be rewriting the bible like that?
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Accept some responsibly and stop blaming everyone else for your disobedience . People send themselves to hell . God doesn't force anyone to love him/accept him , he has given us free-will . Lose that victim-mindset .
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Didnt the new testament rewrite parts of it? Or was that when our governments in the world took hold.
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it is still beter than evil qoran that talks about sex bible is a true bookhf
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Are you sure it's a good idea to be rewriting the bible like that?
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Why NOT?

Its already PREACHED like that.

Christians twist the scriptures every day and dont even realise it.

Do you think its a good idea to PREACH what those scriptures were twisted to FIT or not?

IF not..then WHY DO SO?
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Are you sure it's a good idea to be rewriting the bible like that?
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Why NOT?

Its already PREACHED like that.

Christians twist the scriptures every day and dont even realise it.

Do you think its a good idea to PREACH what those scriptures were twisted to FIT or not?

IF not..then WHY DO SO?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6309149


So you're saying that twisting scriptures is bad, and therefore you are going to twist a whole bunch of scriptures.

Why not just say what you mean?
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Too funny, I would not much worry though. The Bible clearly states that one must NOT worship anyone above God. Yet, the Christian religion has brought Jesus to the main known Idol of worship and mention to them. Guessin even It be true that there will be lots of burnin In hell happenin lol.
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Are you sure it's a good idea to be rewriting the bible like that?
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Why NOT?

Its already PREACHED like that.

Christians twist the scriptures every day and dont even realise it.

Do you think its a good idea to PREACH what those scriptures were twisted to FIT or not?

IF not..then WHY DO SO?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6309149


So you're saying that twisting scriptures is bad, and therefore you are going to twist a whole bunch of scriptures.

Why not just say what you mean?
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Twisting scripture IS bad.

Christians DO it every day.

The actually beleive and teach what those TWISTED scriptures say.

So they might as well re write the bible to FIT what they are already TEACHING.

Cant you grasp the meaning of this thread yet?

CHRISTIANS ALREADY TEACH THOSE DOCTRINES...its just that for the current teachings to FIT SCRIPTURE..SCRIPTURE HAS to be altered to FIT what they TEACH.
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Twisting scripture IS bad.

Christians DO it every day.

The actually beleive and teach what those TWISTED scriptures say.

So they might as well re write the bible to FIT what they are already TEACHING.

Cant you grasp the meaning of this thread yet?

CHRISTIANS ALREADY TEACH THOSE DOCTRINES...its just that for the current teachings to FIT SCRIPTURE..SCRIPTURE HAS to be altered to FIT what they TEACH.
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If twisting scripture is bad, why are you doing it? Nobody is forcing you to do it are they? You just decided to do it.

You could say what you mean and present your information without twisting scripture, if you tried. You are repeatedly doing the thing that you are saying is bad.

If you want people to stop twisting scripture, you should set an example and stop twisting it yourself.
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Twisting scripture IS bad.

Christians DO it every day.

The actually beleive and teach what those TWISTED scriptures say.

So they might as well re write the bible to FIT what they are already TEACHING.

Cant you grasp the meaning of this thread yet?

CHRISTIANS ALREADY TEACH THOSE DOCTRINES...its just that for the current teachings to FIT SCRIPTURE..SCRIPTURE HAS to be altered to FIT what they TEACH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6309149


If twisting scripture is bad, why are you doing it? Nobody is forcing you to do it are they? You just decided to do it.

You could say what you mean and present your information without twisting scripture, if you tried. You are repeatedly doing the thing that you are saying is bad.

If you want people to stop twisting scripture, you should set an example and stop twisting it yourself.
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ITS CALLED REVERSE PSHYCOLOGY!

You STILL dont get it DO you?

THE SCRIPTURE WERE TWISTED TO MEAN EXACLTY WHAT YOU PREACH!

YOU HAVE YET TO DENY IT!..because you CANT deny that you PREACH exactly what those TWISTED SCRIPTURE SAY.

So instead you focus on "But but..ITS BAD to twist scripture"...like a broken record.

I AGREE..it IS BAD to do it..which is WHY I ASK..WHY DO YOU BELIEVE AND TEACH WHAT THOSE OBVIOUSLY TWISTED SCRIPTURES SAY?

IN TEACHING and BELIEVING them..YOU AGREE WITH them..and at the same time say they are WRONG because they are TWISTED?

IF they ARE wrong....AS you say...WHICH they ARE...WHY DO YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING SO OBVIOUSLY WRONG?
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“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16)

Jesus is Savior!
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“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16)

Jesus is Savior!
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Yes he is.

He is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD.

Not just a small part of it.

If he only saved a few then LOVE FAILED and sin wins and satan is GREATER than God.
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Try the koran, it has so many contadictions they actually have a policy to decide which one should be heeded. (Hint, it's always the more violent one).
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How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
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Brilliant...just revise it so you can trick people into believing your bullshit.

If anybody deserves hell, it is Christians.
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How can we teach hell and torture when God says he is love?

How do we answer the haters impossible questions that we just cant answer because the contradictions are SO obvious?

Its time we RE WROTE the bible so when someone says God is Love and that hell is not real we can PROVE God is a bastard from SCRIPTURE and prove he does NOT have any mercy and CANT save but a few.

We also have to PROVE that if they DO go to hell they CHOSE to go there because just saying it without a scripture to back it up is downright embarrassing.

So here we go..Ive started writing a NEW one to fit right in with what we preach about God and hell and doom.

Who wants to contribute..??



"EVERYONE can come to Christ REGARDLESS of whether the Father who sent Him draws him." (John 6:44)
This one explains the "YOU CHOSE TO GO THERE(To hell)" bit

The Gospel is "good tidings of great joy will be to A FEW people." (Luke 2:10) This one explains why only a FEW will be saved.

"At the name of Jesus SOME knees should bow, a few of those in heaven, and a few of those on earth, and a few of those under the earth, and that SOME tongues should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
This one explains that those in hell WONT be bowing because they will be too busy screaming..and they dont have the holy spirit so they just CANT confess anyway.

"The Lord is very slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is impatient towards us, and very willing that most should perish, that FAR from ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
This one explains the obsession God has with torturing so many and why.

Jesus commanded us to be like Himself and His Father: "Hate your enemies, curse those who hate you with hell and doom, and pray for the eternal torment of those who spitefully use you and persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." (Matt. 5:44, 45)
This one explains why christins are so arrogant and proud and unforgiving and hate filled and judgmental towards eachother because they are simply being immitators of Jesus JUST like he commanded them to be.

"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) A SMALL PORTION of MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
This one explains why Jesus suffered SO MUCH but in the end only managed to save a FEW..because THAT was his intention to begin with.

God's "TORTURE endures forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
This one explains hell.

"Through the Lord's tortures we are consumed, because His compassions FAIL ALL THE TIME. They are NOT new every morning. Great is your inability to save or forgive" (Lam. 3:21-24)
This one explains why his mercy DOES have an end.

"It shall come to pass the saying that is written: `death is NOT swallowed up in victory. Oh, Death, you will keep your sting Oh, Hell (Hades) your victory.' The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives A FEW of us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Cor. 15:54-58)
This one explains why hell is eternal and death rules and lives forever.

YOu see..WE HAVE HAD IT ALL WRONG..now at last the CONTRADICTIONS in the bible ABOUT hell and God can be FIXED!!

Who want to do aN "ANGRY GOD TRANSLATION" of the bible with me..its high time we ERASED the contradictions about the teachings of gods eternal love and hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6275489


Brilliant...just revise it so you can trick people into believing your bullshit.

If anybody deserves hell, it is Christians.
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Exaclty..those twisted scriptures are EXACTLY what they preach.