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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5763393  United States11/30/2011 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Accidental Stoner User ID: 1191993  Finland11/30/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Methinks the preaching and talking really is done. Those - at least the grownups - who haven't figured it out yet are simply beyond my help. Our self-appointed overlords just won't ever give you a better personal political thinking machine than the global cannabis prohibition. Seed, dirt, water, sunshine. D'uhhhh??? Understand the communist slave mind, which demands "collective" (as if that weren't fake as hell) control of the individual's perceptional mode at all times - I simply never ever will. I won't ask anybody what seeds I am "allowed" to plant or not. Peace to all of you, stoners or not  |
J0SEPH  User ID: 1171060  Canada11/30/2011 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by J0SEPH on 11/30/2011 07:19 PM When Asked for proof of Saddam Hussian and WMD. A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven. Jean Chretien |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169481 United States11/30/2011 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many people die per year from lung problems caused by smoking pot? I imagine their incorrectly counted among the number of people who've died from smoking cigarettes. And the billion dollar tobacco industry, which their thousands of scientists, have never brought this up!  |
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| MommaDukes420 User ID: 5210452 United States11/30/2011 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The demonizing of hemp began when plans began to come to fruition of making it easier to process the plant into textiles, paper and insecticides than cotton, trees and chemicals. Hearst owned acre upon acre of timberland. He would have lost a fortune had hemp continue to be processed. The others just as much. Anslinger was the Asst. Commissioner of the Bureau of Prohibition. They used Mexicans and others of different races in their propaganda. The use of Mexicans actually dates back to the early teens of 1900. I believe Utah was the first state to prohibit the plant. They claimed that it caused these people of other races to go into a crazed frenzy. In this state they would then kill and rape white people. They scared the living shit out of people with their propaganda. Have you seen Reefer Madness? Did you read Marijuana Girl? Perfect examples of their ridiculous propaganda. They fully well knew of the wonderful properties of this plant. Cannabis has been around over 7,000 years. Used not only in the industrial fashion but medicinal as well. Just think of the pharmaceutical industry. Where would they be today if cannabis continued to be used as a treatment and cure? It's once again, large corporations, financial institutions and government that are keeping the world in poor health and in fear of a simple God given plant. Additionally...  Exo 19:3-8 TS2009 And Mosheh went up to Elohim, and YHWH called to him from the mountain, saying, “This is what you are to say to the house of Ya'aqob?, and declare to the children of Yisra’el: (4) ‘You have seen what I did to the Mitsrites, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to Myself. (5) ‘And now, if you diligently obey My voice, and shall guard My covenant, then you shall be My treasured possession above all the peoples – for all the earth is Mine – (6) ‘and you shall be to Me a reign of priests and a set-apart nation.’ Those are the words which you are to speak to the children of Yisra’el.” (7) And Mosheh came and called for the elders of the people, and set before them all these words which YHWH commanded him. (8) And all the people answered together and said, “All that YHWH has spoken we shall do.” So Mosheh brought back the words of the people to YHWH. Deu 8:2 TS2009 “And you shall remember that YHWH your Elohim led you all the way these forty years in the wilderness, to humble you, prove you, to know what is in your heart, whether you guard His commands or not. Deu 10:12-13 TS2009 “And now, Yisra’el, what is YHWH your Elohim asking of you, but to fear YHWH your Elohim, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, and to serve YHWH your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being, (13) to guard the commands of YHWH and His laws which I command you today for your good. Joh 14:15 TS2009 If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. |
| chem User ID: 1530022 United States11/30/2011 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lololololol look at this bitch spewing 1950's propaganda you are the queen of sheep Oh really? I've heard stoners talk about shit they've seen when they're high. I also remember a member of the Gardaí talking about how a man high on cannabis thought he was fighting an army in some random field. Now, I trust the guards and I trust my own experiences with stoners. So tough shit. that could not happen on cannabis. possibly some mushrooms or lsd. ive smoked weed for 25 years. i vaporize weed everyday. i haven't felt better. i will say the only bad experience on weed for me has been with sativa strains. they make me anxious and cause some anxiety. i know what works best for me and a stay with it. its a life enhancer. no danger in weed. its not for everyone though. |
| Tattau User ID: 1618024 United States11/30/2011 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We already have an obesity problem. Can you imagine what legalizing pot would do to it? Quoting: CrazyJarhead i think that they people would do it already are. the arguements against pot were the same arguements against alcohol during the prohibition and look how silly that seems now Yeah, it's real silly that thousands are killed by drunk drivers every year and it's silly that millions are dead or addicts because of alcohol. On that note, drug driving is a new problem. I've heard some stoners talk, they apparently think that smoking cannabis won't affect your driving skills at all. Drunk driving kills how many people each year? Yet no one has yet to be killed in a marijuana related car accident. Must be because it's hard have a fatal accident at 15 miles per hour. Artwork does not become "Art" until someone buys it... until then, it's just an obsession... and a storage problem. Artist-Illustrator [link to lcbookout.wordpress.com (secure)] |
| chem User ID: 1530022 United States11/30/2011 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrOysterhead i think that they people would do it already are. the arguements against pot were the same arguements against alcohol during the prohibition and look how silly that seems now Yeah, it's real silly that thousands are killed by drunk drivers every year and it's silly that millions are dead or addicts because of alcohol. On that note, drug driving is a new problem. I've heard some stoners talk, they apparently think that smoking cannabis won't affect your driving skills at all. Drunk driving kills how many people each year? Yet no one has yet to be killed in a marijuana related car accident. Must be because it's hard have a fatal accident at 15 miles per hour. you can drive on weed safely. i don't prefer to drive on it but if i have to its not a issue. you dont get all jazzed up like on alcohol and feel your unstoppable. that's what causes reckless driving. weed does not do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511787 United States11/30/2011 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think of cigarettes. Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake Now, imagine the smoke being far thicker, being filled with more chemicals and the fact that they miss with your body in numerous and strong ways. It's illegal for loads of reasons, the government could tax it and make loads but they don't for those reasons. Uh... you have things backwards. It is the smoke of legal cigarettes that is tainted with thousands of carcinogenic chemicals. Yeah but do you think cannabis isn't? Fact: Smoking marijuana will not give you cancer. Proof? See below. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Fact: Smoking cigarettes can give you cancer... Which one is safer? Why is the deadly substance legalized and the non-lethal substance illegal? Corruption. |
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| JATMON User ID: 5928386 United States11/30/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By keeping it illegal, it generates revenue for the "for profit" prison industry. They get to double dip by busting the drunk idiots who are endangering themselves and others, AND they get to bust the pot smokers who are endangering no one. Prison is big business... follow the money. Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill ************ It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand. Mike Royko |
| Mad Matt User ID: 6239267 United States11/30/2011 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #1. God made pot, and all growing herbs for food and medicinal purposes. Man wants to be God. It would kill pharmaceutical and genetic seed industries. #2. Can't tax it if you can grow it. #3. More death with alcohol/nicotine. Last Edited by Mad Matt on 11/30/2011 09:57 PM O earth,earth,earth hear the word of the Lord. Proverbs 1:32 Rejoice not when thy enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him. Proverbs 24:17,18 I have CDO, similar to OCD, but the letters are in their proper order, as they should be. |
| Frater User ID: 1193197 United States11/30/2011 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has something to do with hemp production. Some companies don't want hemp grown because it would hurt their profits. Here ya go, this tells the story: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Frater LVX! |
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| MrOysterhead User ID: 1546790 United States12/01/2011 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lololololol look at this bitch spewing 1950's propaganda you are the queen of sheep Oh really? I've heard stoners talk about shit they've seen when they're high. I also remember a member of the Gardaí talking about how a man high on cannabis thought he was fighting an army in some random field. Now, I trust the guards and I trust my own experiences with stoners. So tough shit. you cant have it both ways... ... Quoting: MrOysterhead by quality of life and profesion i mean them being productive members of society and in all walks of life really.....not the stereotype you originally mentioned. you cant compare the availability of pot to "hard drugs" Ugh, whatever. Look, the cannabis argument is always the same, two different groups using two different sources of information. So, this isn't going to go nowhere. What source are you using? The one that uses stereotypes? No, official sources, my own personal experience, so on and so forth. You'll have to forgive me for not believing the "I know a guy who isn't X and he does smoke pot" stories and the random studies by some random groups that claim cannabis is alright. There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
| Stocking Eats Cake User ID: 6314317  Ireland12/01/2011 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lololololol look at this bitch spewing 1950's propaganda you are the queen of sheep Oh really? I've heard stoners talk about shit they've seen when they're high. I also remember a member of the Gardaí talking about how a man high on cannabis thought he was fighting an army in some random field. Now, I trust the guards and I trust my own experiences with stoners. So tough shit. you cant have it both ways... ... Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake Ugh, whatever. Look, the cannabis argument is always the same, two different groups using two different sources of information. So, this isn't going to go nowhere. What source are you using? The one that uses stereotypes? No, official sources, my own personal experience, so on and so forth. You'll have to forgive me for not believing the "I know a guy who isn't X and he does smoke pot" stories and the random studies by some random groups that claim cannabis is alright. Oh, aren't you thorough. Fair enough, however, the knowledge gained from my personal experiences kind of trumps stories I hear from people I don't even know, surely that's understandable, yes? Known to my many adoring fans as a Karmatard, Porno Addict, gypsy cunt, a corporate protector, an idiot, a shill, ignorant, foolish, racist, a cunt, an asshat and naive. |
| MrOysterhead User ID: 1546790 United States12/01/2011 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fair enough, however, the knowledge gained from my personal experiences kind of trumps stories I hear from people I don't even know, surely that's understandable, yes? yes that is understandable. but law shouldnt be based on your own personal experiences should they? are you lumping pot users and hard drug users together when you speak of these experiences? because they are to very different things. also you mention random stories and random studies.....but you experiences and stories are random to everyone else that doesnt know you...... Last Edited by MrOysterhead on 12/01/2011 08:40 AM There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
| Stocking Eats Cake User ID: 6314317 Ireland12/01/2011 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fair enough, however, the knowledge gained from my personal experiences kind of trumps stories I hear from people I don't even know, surely that's understandable, yes? Quoting: MrOysterhead yes that is understandable. but law shouldnt be based on your own personal experiences should they? are you lumping pot users and hard drug users together when you speak of these experiences? because they are to very different things. also you mention random stories and random studies.....but you experiences and stories are random to everyone else that doesnt know you...... I agree with the current laws based on my personal experiences, I didn't make those laws based on my personal experiences. However, I'm aware of what you're speaking of, I did try to withdraw from this thread earlier but someone had to make a smart ass comment so I came back in. Ugh, whatever. Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake Look, the cannabis argument is always the same, two different groups using two different sources of information. So, this isn't going to go nowhere. Known to my many adoring fans as a Karmatard, Porno Addict, gypsy cunt, a corporate protector, an idiot, a shill, ignorant, foolish, racist, a cunt, an asshat and naive. |
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| Stocking Eats Cake User ID: 6314317 Ireland12/01/2011 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you for the logical debate Stocking Eats Cake. Quoting: MrOysterhead for the record, sweets do more harm to your body then pot. lol. I think you know what I think of that.  Anyway, sure, no problem, I tend to be more reasonable in the aftermath of an argument. Known to my many adoring fans as a Karmatard, Porno Addict, gypsy cunt, a corporate protector, an idiot, a shill, ignorant, foolish, racist, a cunt, an asshat and naive. |
| MrOysterhead User ID: 1546790 United States12/01/2011 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basically the logistics behind prohibition are impossible to enforce. Alcohol is made accidentally with simple materials all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1803898 the mafia has prohibition to thank for all the $$$ they made during those times just like cartels have the current system to thank for the $$$ they make now. There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1427896 United States12/01/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrOysterhead by quality of life and profesion i mean them being productive members of society and in all walks of life really.....not the stereotype you originally mentioned. you cant compare the availability of pot to "hard drugs" Ugh, whatever. Look, the cannabis argument is always the same, two different groups using two different sources of information. So, this isn't going to go nowhere. You're right, after 5,000 years of cultivation it isn't going anywhere. All you have to do is add up the number of alcohol/tobacco-related deaths each year to figure out which of the three mankind truly benefits from. Have you ever heard of someone being prescribed bottle of whiskey and carton of Marlboro cigarettes after cancer treatment? Yeah, I think that's a load of shit. Getting healthy by inhaling drugged up smoke into your lungs? Sure.... cannabis is the plant that has the highest concentration of life force. Tobacco is nearly the opposite, and alchol doesn't have a good effect either. your argument is ignorant. |
| Stocking Eats Cake User ID: 6314317 Ireland12/01/2011 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake Ugh, whatever. Look, the cannabis argument is always the same, two different groups using two different sources of information. So, this isn't going to go nowhere. You're right, after 5,000 years of cultivation it isn't going anywhere. All you have to do is add up the number of alcohol/tobacco-related deaths each year to figure out which of the three mankind truly benefits from. Have you ever heard of someone being prescribed bottle of whiskey and carton of Marlboro cigarettes after cancer treatment? Yeah, I think that's a load of shit. Getting healthy by inhaling drugged up smoke into your lungs? Sure.... cannabis is the plant that has the highest concentration of life force. Tobacco is nearly the opposite, and alchol doesn't have a good effect either. your argument is ignorant.  Known to my many adoring fans as a Karmatard, Porno Addict, gypsy cunt, a corporate protector, an idiot, a shill, ignorant, foolish, racist, a cunt, an asshat and naive. |
