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BREAKING: ALIEN CONTACTEE ALEX COLLIER PROVEN FRAUD!

 
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"For many years I had followed Alex Collier's lectures as a source of information on how this planet got into the mess it is in and how we all got here long ago. I had believed his stories about the humanoid Lyraens and the Draco, a reptilian race, and accepted that he was in touch with blue human-like beings from Andromeda, with his friends Vissaeus and Morenay in particular.

But then one day I realised that words that he had claimed were something that Vissaeus had said to him was actually a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. In other words it was what a human from Earth had originally said and not the wisdom of an extraterrestrial!

The quote is: "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry." Google it and you will find loads of references confirming that Emerson said this. However, in an interview Collier gave to Rick Keefe for his UFO Hypotheses project, he claims it was the most important memory he had of his meetings with his alien friend (see video below).

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Nice find....I've had an uneasy feeling about that guy for a while.
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~*NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo*~ tinnnk!
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What a shock!
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Well if it's true for him, it's true for the rest of them Bassagio, BULLFORD, Wilcox, Icke...all fakes. Icke didn't go apeshit over lizards until AFTER he foolishly went to Peru for Ayahuasca tourism and likely got taken by a fake shaman and who didn't bother to tell him that the lizards he might see during ceremony ...WERE NOT REAL..and he's been inflicting that nonsense on the mentally ill for years.
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"For many years I had followed Alex Collier's lectures as a source of information on how this planet got into the mess it is in and how we all got here long ago. I had believed his stories about the humanoid Lyraens and the Draco, a reptilian race, and accepted that he was in touch with blue human-like beings from Andromeda, with his friends Vissaeus and Morenay in particular.

But then one day I realised that words that he had claimed were something that Vissaeus had said to him was actually a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. In other words it was what a human from Earth had originally said and not the wisdom of an extraterrestrial!

The quote is: "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry." Google it and you will find loads of references confirming that Emerson said this. However, in an interview Collier gave to Rick Keefe for his UFO Hypotheses project, he claims it was the most important memory he had of his meetings with his alien friend (see video below).

more at link...

[link to bardofely.hubpages.com]
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do why couldnt he be quoting an ET who quoted Emerson?
seems plausible to me.
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Well if it's true for him, it's true for the rest of them Bassagio, BULLFORD, Wilcox, Icke...all fakes. Icke didn't go apeshit over lizards until AFTER he foolishly went to Peru for Ayahuasca tourism and likely got taken by a fake shaman and who didn't bother to tell him that the lizards he might see during ceremony ...WERE NOT REAL..and he's been inflicting that nonsense on the mentally ill for years.
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~*Shammy Shaman's*~ get'cha --> every time!
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"For many years I had followed Alex Collier's lectures as a source of information on how this planet got into the mess it is in and how we all got here long ago. I had believed his stories about the humanoid Lyraens and the Draco, a reptilian race, and accepted that he was in touch with blue human-like beings from Andromeda, with his friends Vissaeus and Morenay in particular.

But then one day I realised that words that he had claimed were something that Vissaeus had said to him was actually a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. In other words it was what a human from Earth had originally said and not the wisdom of an extraterrestrial!

The quote is: "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry." Google it and you will find loads of references confirming that Emerson said this. However, in an interview Collier gave to Rick Keefe for his UFO Hypotheses project, he claims it was the most important memory he had of his meetings with his alien friend (see video below).

more at link...

[link to bardofely.hubpages.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1538919


do why couldnt he be quoting an ET who quoted Emerson?
seems plausible to me.
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Yeah, that's the ticket~
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If someone can pin this so more can see it it will be helpful for those just coming in.
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If someone can pin this so more can see it it will be helpful for those just coming in.
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bravo.. next time pin something regarding the biggest fraud of all David Wilcock
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If someone can pin this so more can see it it will be helpful for those just coming in.
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bravo.. next time pin something regarding the biggest fraud of all David Wilcock
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I mentioned it to this author when I saw this brilliant expose...I think he is going to work on Icke and WilCOCK.
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it is going to be hard to keep this up where people can see it.
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Collier was proven a fraud back in the late '90s when his MANY predictions failed to come true, most people on forums now-a-days are just noobs or don't like to read books...

from Alex Collier's book Defending Sacred Ground:

Probable Events That Might Be Happening In the Next Few Years

"Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.

Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit. The reason for this is that there are regressive energies on the moon. They just might have to "pay back some karma".

Between 2003 and 2007, the benevolent races are supposedly going to be all around us. We will see them, but they will not interfere. The Andromedan Council, a group of representatives from 143 planetary systems, made a declaration that by August 12, 2003 all extraterrestrial presence, both good and bad, off our planet. They want to see how we interact with each other when we are not being manipulated. It's a test, and they have every intention on carrying it out. It's going to be interesting.

Between 2004 and 2007, all the DNA coding which involves all the racial memory from the 22 races will begin to unlock.

By 2007, everyone will have full memory of who they are, who they were, and where they come from. A lot of this has to do with the implosion of third density pulling us up into higher densities.

Between 2007 and 2012, we are supposed to see the birth of a brand new galaxy in the area of the sky known as Vega, just before we move into fifth density. Now, they time travel so they already know its there.

Between 2007 and 2009, if it is allowed to happen naturally, we are supposed to have a 17 degree pole shift. The area of Saudi Arabia is supposed to become the new North Pole, so we have no choice but to go to free energy. North America is supposed to end up on the equator.

By the year 2003, you are going to hear more reports about "ghosts", because what is happening is that the new frequency is raising the vibration of the planet, and third
and fourth density will come closer and closer together as third density starts to implode. This means that the molecules in our bodies are going to 'speed up', because
the body is not dead matter, and you are going to start to see on more of a spirit level. We are going to have to become more responsible in the exercise of our free will
as the earth changes start. People living along the coastal areas are going to have a problem, as the oceans could rise as much as 200 feet by the year 2008.

Around 2011, our sun will undergo a 180 degree pole shift.

During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life
expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt. Many people will be moving to communities outside the cities, growing food and having their own private police forces."
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of course he is but still many people refuse to believe he is a nutter...
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"There is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit."

Alex Collier or Criswell Predicts?? I love these nutty prophecies!

[link to www.criswellpredicts.com]

Criswell: "I predict an outburst of cannibalism will terrorize the population of one of the industrial cites in the state of Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh.. Date: November 28 to December 21, 1980."
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but did he predict the zombie apocalypse?
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Where are the Fucking Aliens ALEX COLLIER?
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thanks for the nutter tom cruise reminder...
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thanks for the nutter tom cruise reminder...
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hf
They are coming from Mars.
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"For many years I had followed Alex Collier's lectures as a source of information on how this planet got into the mess it is in and how we all got here long ago. I had believed his stories about the humanoid Lyraens and the Draco, a reptilian race, and accepted that he was in touch with blue human-like beings from Andromeda, with his friends Vissaeus and Morenay in particular.

But then one day I realised that words that he had claimed were something that Vissaeus had said to him was actually a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. In other words it was what a human from Earth had originally said and not the wisdom of an extraterrestrial!

The quote is: "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry." Google it and you will find loads of references confirming that Emerson said this. However, in an interview Collier gave to Rick Keefe for his UFO Hypotheses project, he claims it was the most important memory he had of his meetings with his alien friend (see video below).

more at link...

[link to bardofely.hubpages.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1538919


BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It took you that long to discover what 99.99% of sane people do after that doofus speaks for 1 minute. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tard!
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"For many years I had followed Alex Collier's lectures as a source of information on how this planet got into the mess it is in and how we all got here long ago. I had believed his stories about the humanoid Lyraens and the Draco, a reptilian race, and accepted that he was in touch with blue human-like beings from Andromeda, with his friends Vissaeus and Morenay in particular.

But then one day I realised that words that he had claimed were something that Vissaeus had said to him was actually a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. In other words it was what a human from Earth had originally said and not the wisdom of an extraterrestrial!

The quote is: "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry." Google it and you will find loads of references confirming that Emerson said this. However, in an interview Collier gave to Rick Keefe for his UFO Hypotheses project, he claims it was the most important memory he had of his meetings with his alien friend (see video below).

more at link...

[link to bardofely.hubpages.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1538919


BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It took you that long to discover what 99.99% of sane people do after that doofus speaks for 1 minute. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tard!
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa tard...I never believed that nutter or any of the others....LOL I posted it for the Lizardtards, the Icketards..et on on here...
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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It appears almost all persons are frauds or actors now a days. Sadly they cannot be allowed to be their own selves in a free world and be happy, that if for the noncriminals only.
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so this guy was an actor all along playing a role to sucker people into a false belief system?? gotta wonder who gave him this role to play? things like this should not be allowed, people lying to brainwash the unsuspecting and gullible.
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It is not the contactee who are frauds. It is the aliens themselves. Alex probably WAS contacted by ET's. The problem is that these et's don't have humanitys best interest in mind. They want to act as saviours so we fall into their controlling paradigm. Typical that the deceptive ET stole a quote from Emerson and passed it off as his own. Believe me these aliens will soon be showing up and claiming to be our ancient ancestors...just don't fall for the bullshit. We belong right here on Earth.
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I have heard that statement from at least one other contactee (George Kavassilas I think).

Is it possible that Ralph Waldo Emerson (with his incredible wisdom that stands out to this day) was himself a contactee??? ....just saying.

Seems like such a small point of contention to totally write someone off on.
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It is not the contactee who are frauds. It is the aliens themselves. Alex probably WAS contacted by ET's. The problem is that these et's don't have humanitys best interest in mind. They want to act as saviours so we fall into their controlling paradigm. Typical that the deceptive ET stole a quote from Emerson and passed it off as his own. Believe me these aliens will soon be showing up and claiming to be our ancient ancestors...just don't fall for the bullshit. We belong right here on Earth.
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It's our perception of ETs that can be wrong, not the ETs themselves. They live in a whole different paradigm than us - one where time keeping on calenders is irrellevant. Our mindset is such that we automatically take any information that we recieve and try to plug it into categories that are familiar or known to us. It's how we try to make sense of things.

But trying to make sense of other dimensional beings cannot happen with our limited abilities.

ETs don't see time like we do. They don't think in terms of months, days, years, etc... That is OUR way of organizing information, not theirs. So for Alex to give out dates for future events to happen was how HE processed whatever information they gave him.

Anyone who's had contact can testify how surreal the experience can be. Sometimes so surreal that our brains don't even want to remember it because we can't recognize anything we are familiar with - our brains cannot categorize it and process it. Those are our limits.

I think Alex did have contact, but I also think what he got from the experience was filtered through his own impressions and put into logical categories by the needs of his own mind. We all do this with unfamiliar material. We automatically try to make sense of it.

I say look for the message behind what someone is relaying and not the specifics. So if someone says, "the ETs told me that they were coming on March 14", I would forget the date part (because ETs don't follow calendars) and just remember that they are coming. We don't know when exactly, but they wanted us to know they are coming. That's how I would interpret that.

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Well Duh!cool2
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It is not the contactee who are frauds. It is the aliens themselves. Alex probably WAS contacted by ET's. The problem is that these et's don't have humanitys best interest in mind. They want to act as saviours so we fall into their controlling paradigm. Typical that the deceptive ET stole a quote from Emerson and passed it off as his own. Believe me these aliens will soon be showing up and claiming to be our ancient ancestors...just don't fall for the bullshit. We belong right here on Earth.
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It's our perception of ETs that can be wrong, not the ETs themselves. They live in a whole different paradigm than us - one where time keeping on calenders is irrellevant. Our mindset is such that we automatically take any information that we recieve and try to plug it into categories that are familiar or known to us. It's how we try to make sense of things.

But trying to make sense of other dimensional beings cannot happen with our limited abilities.

ETs don't see time like we do. They don't think in terms of months, days, years, etc... That is OUR way of organizing information, not theirs. So for Alex to give out dates for future events to happen was how HE processed whatever information they gave him.

Anyone who's had contact can testify how surreal the experience can be. Sometimes so surreal that our brains don't even want to remember it because we can't recognize anything we are familiar with - our brains cannot categorize it and process it. Those are our limits.

I think Alex did have contact, but I also think what he got from the experience was filtered through his own impressions and put into logical categories by the needs of his own mind. We all do this with unfamiliar material. We automatically try to make sense of it.

I say look for the message behind what someone is relaying and not the specifics. So if someone says, "the ETs told me that they were coming on March 14", I would forget the date part (because ETs don't follow calendars) and just remember that they are coming. We don't know when exactly, but they wanted us to know they are coming. That's how I would interpret that.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that Ralph Amagram had contact with ET's.
None.

Then for the icing on the cake Alex(Ralph )with drink in hand goes on video to say "The more you drink(alcohol) the more aliens you see."
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Jesus warned there would be false prophets and that Satan would cleverly deceive the world, even the elect.