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Suicide is not cowardly. Those who are afraid of death ARE THE REAL COWARDS!

 
Evan03

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I will also say, for someone to commit suicide they must really be feeling pain. Feeling like there is no other choice than suicide must be horrible. But we all have pain and troubles in this life, it is how we deal with it that builds character.
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So true and the reason why I feel conflicted with my father's actions....
 Quoting: Mulehound


Sorry you had to go through that....I couldn't imagine.

hf
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I will also say, for someone to commit suicide they must really be feeling pain. Feeling like there is no other choice than suicide must be horrible. But we all have pain and troubles in this life, it is how we deal with it that builds character.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


So true and the reason why I feel conflicted with my father's actions....
 Quoting: Mulehound


Sorry you had to go through that....I couldn't imagine.

hf
 Quoting: Evan03


Thanks, some call it a selfish act but there are so many sides to it that it makes it difficult in regards to how to feel.

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I will also say, for someone to commit suicide they must really be feeling pain. Feeling like there is no other choice than suicide must be horrible. But we all have pain and troubles in this life, it is how we deal with it that builds character.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


So true and the reason why I feel conflicted with my father's actions....
 Quoting: Mulehound


Sorry you had to go through that....I couldn't imagine.

hf
 Quoting: Evan03


Thanks, some call it a selfish act but there are so many sides to it that it makes it difficult in regards to how to feel.
 Quoting: Mulehound


Understandable.
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I have a video of a recent Tibetan Nun who Self Immolated. If anyone would like to see it without giving me red karma and going crazy. Just say it and Ill post it. I wont otherwise
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suicide is one of the most selfish and self-righteous acts known to mankind
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OP

Maybe you should go kill yourself. I promise we will create a thread in honor of your courages act.

Such selflessness and bravery in one so young is admirable.
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What I fear about death is the dead body left behind, rotting away and the associated diseases. I fear death in the Victorian era.
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Have any of you ever tried to imagine the overwhelming sadness that one must feel to even consider ending their own life? I mean really thought about it?

How many of us can honestly say that the thought hasn't crossed our minds? I know I can't. I had a plan. Never acted on it though.
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if you truly knew the shame/sadness/pain you feel at that point, you would not post this OP.
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The ones that commit suicide are the cowards, sorry op.
Suicide is the easy way out, life if f'ck'n hard.

The devastation they leave behind causes shockwaves that last till the end of time.

This is a subject that touches a raw nerve with me as someone very close to me committed suicide leaving an indescribable wave of destruction in the aftermath, forever changing lives.

Problem is, most that do it are in the frame of mind where they are only thinking of their own pain, not the pain of those close to them or how it will impact them. Suicide is a selfish act.


If one is terminal and wishes to be free of pain, then perhaps but if it is just a way out then fu, suicide effects so many it is most definitely the cowards way out.
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Btw I'm not advocating suicide. Just pointing out the fact that those who commit suicide had great courage and balls to do it in the first place.
IMO only those who are afraid of death are the real cowards.

Discuss.
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Or it could be that those that suicide just don't give a damn about death, life, themselves or those that are going to be affected by their action??
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Re: Suicide is not cowardly. Those who are afraid of death ARE THE REAL COWARDS!
Guess you've never had to clean up after a father who blew his brains out or come home to a kid hanging dead by the garage rafters. Suicide may not be "cowardly" but it takes a very sick and selfish person to do this to their loved ones. It's certainly nothing to glorify.
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there are levels of evil that one must descend to commit such an act.

it is evil.
it is selfish and self righteous.
it is murder.
it is a harbinger of enormous pain.
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Guess you've never had to clean up after a father who blew his brains out or come home to a kid hanging dead by the garage rafters. Suicide may not be "cowardly" but it takes a very sick and selfish person to do this to their loved ones. It's certainly nothing to glorify.
 Quoting: Faith


Selfish? You have no idea what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with being selfish.

You act as if most/ all people who commit suicide are in their right minds. They are not.
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no, you dont know what it is like to have those thoughts, I can understand how if must feel to see a loved one having taken his/her own life, and I feel for you.

but to have those thoughts, pushing you so close to the edge, that the only way you see as out, is down, its NOT bravery, its desperation!.

ive had those thoughts, and the only thing keeping me from it, was thinking about how the ones I cared about would feel, THAT stopped me, but sometimes that isnt enough, sadly, sometimes that person who feels that way needs help!
the signs can be hard to spot, and it will be too late in some cases.

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no, you dont know what it is like to have those thoughts, I can understand how if must feel to see a loved one having taking his/her own life, and I feel for you.

but to have those thoughts, pushing you so close to the edge, that then only way you see is down, is NOT bravery, its desperation!.

ive had those thoughts, and the only thing keeping me from it, was thinking about how the ones I cared about would feel, THAT stopped me, but sometimes that isnt enough, sadly, sometimes that person who feels that way needs help!
the signs can be hard to spot, and it will be to late in some cases.
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yeah, the bolded part.

that sets one person apart from another.
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OP i'm sorry but you are fucking retarded...people who commit suicide are afraid of life so they runaway to avoid they're problems. doesn't sound couragous too me. if they were couragous they would suck up they're problems and deal with life.
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no, you dont know what it is like to have those thoughts, I can understand how if must feel to see a loved one having taking his/her own life, and I feel for you.

but to have those thoughts, pushing you so close to the edge, that then only way you see is down, is NOT bravery, its desperation!.

ive had those thoughts, and the only thing keeping me from it, was thinking about how the ones I cared about would feel, THAT stopped me, but sometimes that isnt enough, sadly, sometimes that person who feels that way needs help!
the signs can be hard to spot, and it will be to late in some cases.
 Quoting: Michael_


You are correct!

And different people become this way for many different reasons and this is why it sooooo difficult for those left behind to cope and understand.
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SUICIDE IS SELF HATE COMPLICATED BY THE INABILITY TO FORGIVE

but what comes after ?
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Just as I wake up everyday, I hear a voice telling me to kill myself. The actual term used is "I have to kill myself." as if it were coming from my own groggy just woke up thoughts. It's been going on for months now. The thing is I've never realistically contemplated suicide and I have a pretty sunny personality. I've never suffered from depression or anything like that.

I wonder what suicide really means and why are these entities/voices trying to force me to believe that I want to die? Like a constant negative reinforcement.
What do these things get when people kill themselves?
It's not that I'm afraid to die, but I'd rather not force it.
I enjoy my time here, it's quite a show.
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Suicide is for those who have lost all hope in there own ability to overcome.


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That is almost EXACTLY what a friend left in a letter-"I kept reaching out and no one was there to hel I cant cope by myself."-tragic but true.
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Btw I'm not advocating suicide. Just pointing out the fact that those who commit suicide had great courage and balls to do it in the first place.
IMO only those who are afraid of death are the real cowards.

Discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6362822


I'm not afraid...I just have no reason to kill myself.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Just as I wake up everyday, I hear a voice telling me to kill myself. The actual term used is "I have to kill myself." as if it were coming from my own groggy just woke up thoughts. It's been going on for months now. The thing is I've never realistically contemplated suicide and I have a pretty sunny personality. I've never suffered from depression or anything like that.

I wonder what suicide really means and why are these entities/voices trying to force me to believe that I want to die? Like a constant negative reinforcement.
What do these things get when people kill themselves?
It's not that I'm afraid to die, but I'd rather not force it.
I enjoy my time here, it's quite a show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215465

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If the first you hear when awaken is "I HAVE to kill myself"

It is your heart / subconscious speaking to the utter disgust and disappointment it has in your life choices so far and has given up on your ability to improve yourself....

BE HONEST...ADMIT YOUR FAILINGS...AND FORGIVE YOURSELF...

or fall into agreement with the voice in your head

Remember :


"Pain is inevitable- Suffering is optional"


l have saved a life today, it has been a good day.
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Its most definitely a cop out based on fear of something greater than their fear of death...
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Its most definitely a cop out based on fear of something greater than their fear of death...
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Profundities abound......

Something greater than their fear of Death ?

Their of fear of life, perhaps living it without something or someone.
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Maybe suicide is the only way to escape this reality. It's like a spiritual test, are you able to give up this world enough to freely leave it behind without being forced to leave it? It's possible that a long as you cling to this world and your life you keep coming back but when you choose to abandon life you move to the next level.
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i wish..a few months back in a cold winter night outside in the middle of my city i jumped into and drowned in the dark cold water.. never lost consciousness but actually felt death come and go.. they pulled me out and my chest was in severe pain probably from all the water i had ingested my body temperature within minutes of being put in the ambulance rose back to normal after drowning in that minus degree temperature for that 10-15 minutes or so.. my chest felt like it was ripping open but that was just a black hole opening up within me to remove all the water out of me.. i started breathing again and was back to normal within minutes of getting put in the ambulance... the stupid dead sea scrolls say that HE wouldnt let me drown as if HE was doing me a fucking favor.. fuck him that is not I.. anyway.. now months down the track i am stuck in this loop again and am looking for a better way out.. i think i might get on top of a high rise and jump later tonight.. this suicidal depression along with loneliness and emptiness while being subject to the worst kind of electronic psychic spiritual mental emotional and physical torture in the hands of what you would call illuminati is why i will end it once and for all.. while they are trying to program and condition their hell into me i am planning on my final exit.. their non stop works against me are useless as they never have their way yet it creates the worst kind of experience non the less and im better than that to be subject to this shit at this point in time.. they just cant accept me being happy and living to even a 10th of my potential for they are jealous cowards that can only get to me from an invisible level.. oh well i dont give a shit.. fuck these government rats stalking me at the same time and all the other fuckers involved in my imprisonment here.. im just done.. i will end it soon.. so fuck the world.. bye bye motha fuckers im out ;)
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Re: Suicide is not cowardly. Those who are afraid of death ARE THE REAL COWARDS!
If I had no one to live for, Id do it, Theres nothing in this world I want

I stick around for those that need me, thats it, But if I had no one, Id do myself in, in a heartbeat

HOWEVER:

The reason to live is for those that love you and would miss you if you were gone.

SO LIVE !

Others need you.
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Sometimes the real sacrifice is staying alive and dealing with your problems.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


It has nothing to do with "sacrifice". The statement about walking in somebody else's shoes has never been more appropriate. Have you every lost somebody you loved dearly? It's like somebody stole the soul out of the world. With everything around you, it's empty and meaningless. With that person gone, you are empty and nothing can fix it.

That's what depression is like, 24/7/365, except nobody has died. The world is just a dark, sad, empty place and there is no joy or solace to be found. So I suggest, until you've lived that, don't judge. Just like a divorce; there are always two sides to every story and nobody has any business taking sides because they didn't live it. I would bet that most people who have committed suicide had kept it at bay and fended it off for years before they finally gave in. Like trying to run a marathon with two bad knees...you give it your best shot, keep pushing through the pain, but eventually your knees give out. In this case your spirit fails and dies. You are literally a walking zombie, your spirit is gone and your soul has died.

It's just something to think about...hf

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SO DO IT! FUCKING COWARD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6225783


Idiot.

you first, tough guy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1707347


Moron.