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Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .

 
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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
What research do you base that conclusion on????? . . .
 Quoting: George B


[link to www-angler.larc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


show me 17 Apr 2010 over England at 1200Z . . .
 Quoting: George B


No...You're the one hung on that instant in time and place...You do it...

Still not bright enough to know that simply because the Appleman chart states that a contrail will "always form", that this has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it will persist, huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144259


The presistence line is the dotted red line . . . sorry Snake. . .
. . . oops2

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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .

1) There is no evidence the persistent vapor trails in the sky are anything but contrails
2) no 'in situ' testing of aircraft vapor trails has identified anything other than combustion products, fuel remnants and engine erosion products . . .
3) No government or corporate representative has admitted to the existence of a Chemtrail program
4) No acceptable whistleblower has come forward to testify to the method, technology or personnel involved in a Chemtrail program
5) No testing of air, water, or organic tissue has found levels of contaminates that could not have come from manufacturing, mining or natural sources
6) Historical wrongdoing in the past by the authorities is not evidence of existing wrongdoing . . . And nothing to do with the CHEMTRAILs myth
7) Patents related to aerosol injection and geoengineering are not adequate evidence of a Chemtrail program . . . 
8) Scientific symposium and research papers regarding aerosol injection as a method of geoengineering does not prove a Chemtrail program is ongoing  . . .
9) Cloud seeding, chaff, weather modification experimentation, and spraying of insecticides, fungicides, weed control substances, and dispersants do not constitute CHEMTRAILs . . .
10) Proposals in military research to own the weather as a weapon or defensive counter measure in the future has nothing to do with CHEMTRAILs . . .
11) No program as extensive as CHEMTRAILs could have been hidden 
from the public for all these years without accidental or intentional disclosure 
 Quoting: George B


your poll sucks, one side b/s, yes they do exist. dip stick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789570


Sorry to upset you but this poll was to try to get the Debunkers to admit why they say chemtrails don't exist . . . I personally am a Chemtrail Advocate. . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
What? Are you fucking blind? No? Then you must be under 30!
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12/09/2011 01:19 PM
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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


show me 17 Apr 2010 over England at 1200Z . . .
 Quoting: George B


No...You're the one hung on that instant in time and place...You do it...

Still not bright enough to know that simply because the Appleman chart states that a contrail will "always form", that this has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it will persist, huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144259


The presistence line is the dotted red line . . . sorry Snake. . .
. . . oops2

:C - #1d2:
 Quoting: George B


Oh well NASA, now there's a trustworthy source.
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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
George you are under mind control: You have not examined anything but the spoon feed drool.

NASA is your source? Seriously? The people that have claimed the solar system is flat and lazy and that the planets orbit behind the Sun?

What next George? That the Church was right all along?

Please, get some clues George old boy. The earth and the entire solar system isn't even like they say it is. Stop bein a stooge for the powers that be.
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The presistence line is the dotted red line . . . sorry Snake. . .
. . .
 Quoting: George B


This is why almost no one uses the Appleman chart any longer (except you)...It's a good starting point, bt not the be all, end all...

If you’re wondering how a cloud can exist with such a large temperature dewpoint spread, it can’t. Relative humidity in most clouds is a couple of tenths above 100 percent (the air is supersaturated)

It does not take (far enough) into account the difference between the RH and dew points...

[link to www.ifr-magazine.com]

But carry on...

You do so entertain me with your 'expertise' at Power Point...

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"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
They certainly do exist, next time you see one, look at the head of the trail, bet you find an high flying aircraft jet...
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12/09/2011 05:10 PM

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The presistence line is the dotted red line . . . sorry Snake. . .
. . .
 Quoting: George B


This is why almost no one uses the Appleman chart any longer (except you)...It's a good starting point, bt not the be all, end all...

If you’re wondering how a cloud can exist with such a large temperature dewpoint spread, it can’t. Relative humidity in most clouds is a couple of tenths above 100 percent (the air is supersaturated)

It does not take (far enough) into account the difference between the RH and dew points...

[link to www.ifr-magazine.com]

But carry on...

You do so entertain me with your 'expertise' at Power Point...

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Icing and persistent trails and cirrus cloud formation triggered by exhaust trails at 30,000 feet are a different colored horse. . . .coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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12/09/2011 05:28 PM

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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
Chemtrail &
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lol
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Laugh if you wish. . . .If I remember correctly the atmospheric soundings on the day of the second picture indicate that persistent trails would have had a very high probability of being present if there had been air traffic. . .coffee4
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03808 Camborne Observations at 12Z 17 Apr 2010

-------------------------------------------------------------​----------------
PRES HGHT TEMP DWPT RELH MIXR DRCT SKNT THTA THTE THTV
hPa m C C % g/kg deg knot K K K
-------------------------------------------------------------​----------------

400.0 7230 -35.7 -57.7 9 0.04 155 5 308.5 308.7 308.5
377.0 7639 -39.3 -57.3 13 0.04 160 6 309.0 309.2 309.0
365.0 7858 -41.1 -58.7 13 0.04 165 8 309.4 309.6 309.4
349.0 8162 -43.7 -60.7 14 0.03 211 6 310.0 310.1 310.0
341.0 8317 -45.0 -61.6 14 0.03 235 5 310.3 310.4 310.3
330.0 8535 -46.8 -63.0 14 0.02 160 3 310.7 310.8 310.7
326.0 8616 -47.5 -63.5 14 0.02 161 3 310.8 310.9 310.8
309.0 8967 -50.4 -65.0 16 0.02 165 2 311.5 311.6 311.5

Approximately 30,000 feet
302.0 9117 -51.7 -65.7 17 0.02 153 4 311.8 311.9 311.8
300.0 9160 -51.9 -64.9 20 0.02 150 5 312.1 312.2 312.1
291.0 9357 -53.3 -65.6 21 0.02 150 9 312.9 312.9 312.9
287.0 9446 -53.9 -65.9 22 0.02 145 9 313.2 313.3 313.2
275.0 9718 -55.8 -66.7 24 0.02 130 9 314.3 314.4 314.3
266.0 9930 -57.3 -67.3 27 0.02 123 11 315.1 315.2 315.1
258.0 10122 -58.7 -66.7 35 0.02 116 13 315.8 315.9 315.8
257.0 10147 -58.8 -66.6 36 0.02 115 13 316.1 316.1 316.1
252.0 10270 -59.1 -66.1 40 0.02 122 16 317.4 317.4 317.4
250.0 10320 -59.7 -66.7 40 0.02 125 17 317.2 317.3 317.2
244.0 10471 -60.7 -67.1 42 0.02 125 19 317.9 318.0 317.9
239.0 10600 -61.5 -67.5 45 0.02 122 19 318.6 318.7 318.6
234.0 10731 -62.5 -68.5 44 0.02 118 18 319.0 319.1 319.0
229.0 10864 -63.1 -69.1 44 0.02 115 18 320.0 320.1 320.0
226.0 10945 -63.5 -69.5 44 0.01 115 19 320.6 320.7 320.7
216.0 11224 -63.3 -70.2 39 0.01 95 20 325.1 325.2 325.1
215.0 11252 -63.3 -70.3 38 0.01 98 19 325.6 325.6 325.6
207.0 11487 -61.6 -72.2 23 0.01 125 14 331.8 331.9 331.8
204.0 11577 -60.9 -72.9 19 0.01 123 9 334.3 334.3 334.3
201.0 11669 -61.5 -74.2 17 0.01 120 3 334.7 334.8 334.7
200.0 11700 -61.7 -74.7 16 0.01 120 3 334.9 334.9 334.9
195.0 11858 -60.0 -77.9 8 0.00 100 3 340.1 340.1 340.1
192.0 11955 -58.9 -79.9 5 0.00 235 2 343.3 343.3 343.3
191.0 11988 -58.7 -80.3 5 0.00 280 2 344.2 344.2 344.2
187.0 12122 -57.7 -82.2 3 0.00 5 7 347.8 347.8 347.8
182.0 12294 -56.5 -84.5 2 0.00 19 8 352.5 352.5 352.5
178.0 12436 -55.6 -84.9 1 0.00 30 8 356.3 356.3 356.3
176.0 12508 -55.1 -85.1 1 0.00 1 7 358.2 358.2 358.2
170.0 12730 -55.4 -86.0 1 0.00 270 3 361.3 361.4 361.3
162.0 13038 -55.7 -87.2 1 0.00 20 3 365.8 365.8 365.8

Approximately 42,000 feet


158.0 13198 -55.9 -87.9 1 0.00 356 3 368.1 368.1 368.1
157.0 13239 -55.9 -87.8 1 0.00 350 3 368.8 368.8 368.8
153.0 13403 -55.6 -87.7 1 0.00 40 3 371.9 371.9 371.9
150.0 13530 -55.5 -87.5 1 0.00 185 2 374.2 374.3 374.2
149.0 13573 -55.5 -87.5 1 0.00 180 2 375.0 375.1 375.0
141.0 13924 -55.1 -87.1 1 0.00 47 10 381.6 381.6 381.6
140.0 13969 -55.2 -87.2 1 0.00 30 11 382.3 382.3 382.3
132.0 14343 -55.8 -87.8 1 0.00 80 13 387.7 387.7 387.7
125.0 14689 -56.3 -88.3 1 0.00 128 12 392.8 392.8 392.8
122.0 14843 -57.6 -89.0 1 0.00 150 12 393.2 393.2 393.2
120.0 14947 -58.5 -89.5 1 0.00 160 11 393.4 393.4 393.4
113.0 15324 -58.5 -89.5 1 0.00 195 9 400.2 400.2 400.2
106.0 15725 -58.5 -89.5 1 0.00 225 6 407.6 407.6 407.6
100.0 16090 -59.3 -90.3 1 0.00 230 12 412.9 412.9 412.9

Station information and sounding indices

Station number: 3808
Observation time: 100417/1200
Station latitude: 50.22
Station longitude: -5.32

Questions about the weather data provided by this site can be addressed to Larry Oolman (ldoolman@uwyo.edu)
 Quoting: George B


03808 Camborne Observations at 12Z 10 Apr 2010

-------------------------------------------------------------​----------------
PRES HGHT TEMP DWPT RELH MIXR DRCT SKNT THTA
THTE THTV
hPa m C C % g/kg deg knot K K K
-------------------------------------------------------------​----------------

400.0 7420 -30.3 -47.3 17 0.13 305 14 315.5 316.1 315.6
393.0 7544 -31.3 -48.6 17 0.12 305 14 315.8 316.3 315.8
374.0 7892 -34.2 -52.2 14 0.08 315 10 316.5 316.9 316.5
353.0 8297 -37.5 -56.5 12 0.05 313 11 317.3 317.5 317.3
325.0 8861 -42.1 -61.1 11 0.03 310 12 318.6 318.7 318.6
318.0 9010 -43.3 -62.3 11 0.03 315 13 318.9 319.0 318.9
311.0 9160 -44.5 -62.5 12 0.03 321 15 319.2 319.3 319.2
300.0 9400 -46.5 -63.5 13 0.02 330 17 319.7 319.8 319.7


299.0 9422 -46.8 -63.5 13 0.02 330 16 319.7 319.8 319.7
296.0 9489 -47.5 -63.5 14 0.03 329 16 319.5 319.6 319.5
286.0 9715 -49.3 -56.3 44 0.07 325 17 320.1 320.4 320.
274.0 9993 -51.8 -57.0 54 0.06 320 18 320.4 320.6 320.4
270.0 10088 -52.7 -57.2 58 0.06 318 18 320.5 320.7 320.5
250.0 10580 -56.7 -60.6 61 0.04 310 21 321.6 321.8 321.6
248.0 10631 -57.1 -61.2 60 0.04 309 20 321.8 322.0 321.8
240.0 10839 -58.4 -63.1 55 0.03 305 17 322.8 323.0 322.8
236.0 10945 -59.1 -64.1 52 0.03 307 17 323.4 323.5 323.4
210.0 11668 -64.6 -69.6 50 0.02 320 20 325.7 325.8 325.7
201.0 11940 -66.7 -71.7 49 0.01 329 17 326.5 326.6 326.5
200.0 11970 -66.9 -71.9 49 0.01 330 17 326.7 326.7 326.7
191.0 12246 -68.3 -73.3 49 0.01 350 15 328.8 328.8 328.8
184.0 12469 -69.4 -74.4 48 0.01 340 11 330.5 330.5 330.5
181.0 12568 -69.9 -74.9 48 0.01 345 11 331.2 331.3 331.2
178.0 12667 -69.1 -74.1 48 0.01 352 12 334.1 334.2 334.1
175.0 12769 -66.7 -72.7 43 0.01 358 14 339.7 339.8 339.7
170.0 12945 -66.6 -75.0 29 0.01 10 16 342.7 342.8 342.7
167.0 13052 -66.5 -76.5 23 0.01 10 16 344.6 344.6 344.6
162.0 13237 -63.9 -76.9 15 0.01 10 16 352.0 352.0 352.0


152.0 13629 -62.4 -82.0 6 0.00 10 15 361.0 361.0 361.0
150.0 13710 -62.1 -83.1 4 0.00 25 17 362.9 362.9 362.9
145.0 13920 -61.5 -85.5 3 0.00 60 14 367.5 367.5 367.5
143.0 14006 -61.5 -85.8 3 0.00 75 13 368.9 368.9 368.9
139.0 14181 -61.6 -86.3 2 0.00 40 3 371.7 371.7 371.7
134.0 14408 -61.7 -86.9 2 0.00 345 10 375.4 375.4 375.4
131.0 14548 -61.8 -87.3 2 0.00 35 10 377.7 377.8 377.7
119.0 15142 -62.1 -89.1 2 0.00 7 7 387.7 387.7 387.7
118.0 15195 -62.0 -89.1 2 0.00 5 7 388.8 388.8 388.8
112.0 15518 -61.7 -89.1 2 0.00 350 11 395.2 395.2 395.2
107.0 15801 -61.4 -89.1 1 0.00 30 10 401.0 401.0 401.0
102.0 16097 -61.1 -89.1 1 0.00 345 6 407.1 407.1 407.1
100.0 16220 -61.3 -89.3 1 0.00 15 7 409.0 409.0 409.0

Station information and sounding indices

Station number: 3808
Observation time: 100410/1200
Station latitude: 50.22
Station longitude: -5.32
Station elevation: 88.0

Questions about the weather data provided by this site can be addressed to Larry Oolman (ldoolman@uwyo.edu)



Snake show me where the differences in dew point separation. . . Makes a hill of beans on 10 April 2010. . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Logic -- they don't discriminate -- therefore everyone, even those that would be part of the "conspiracy" would be exposed.
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Re: Debunkers!!! . . .  CHEMTRAILs don't exist . . . Because. . . .
George you are under mind control: You have not examined anything but the spoon feed drool.

NASA is your source? Seriously? The people that have claimed the solar system is flat and lazy and that the planets orbit behind the Sun?

What next George? That the Church was right all along?

Please, get some clues George old boy. The earth and the entire solar system isn't even like they say it is. Stop bein a stooge for the powers that be.
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I am using the science as defined by the TPTB to show that even their science can be used to indicate CHEMTRAILs exist. . . one has to use a common language to have a debate. . . .peace
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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