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BREAKING - Defense Authorization Act just passed the Senate. Heading to Obama | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6348641  United States12/02/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you find out and understand why census workers were using GPS at your door last year! Some event always precludes inception of a new law to scrape away your rights. Quoting: John Donson 1510279 Well you know, if you see something say something. See how far that gets you. When Glenn Beck tells you this is not Nazi Germany, but Naomi Wolf is on the do not fly list. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185877 United States12/02/2011 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thenewamerican.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6408848 Clip- In the end, Senators Feinstein and Lindsey Graham worked out a deal to pass an amendment that states, “Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.” That compromise amendment passed 99 to 1, with only Senator Jon Kyl voting against it. Smoke and mirrors. They already have most of these abilities under the unPATRIOTiotic Act. These provisions extend the battlefield to US soil. the patriot act expired...it is unenforceable since obama has no authority to sign any legislation into law... it's all a hoax on the american people this term of office......if you know the law, none of obama's signature will hold....it's all one big farse a joke all these laws obozo signed will simple fall away, they can't be enforced and will be gone in a heartbeat when the next potus declares obama ineligible to sign and legislation. nope, you're wrong: [link to en.wikipedia.org] On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups. source other than wiki: [link to articles.latimes.com]  hey, i don't care what Obama signed, he has no authority whatsoever to sign any legislation into law...so says the US Supreme Court. Back in 1875, the United States Supreme Court, in Minor v, Happersett, ruled that: “Natural Born Citizen” was defined as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.” ANY US CITIZEN CAN CHALLENGE OBOZO'S SIGNED LEGISLATION; AND PROVE THE LAWS HE SIGNED ARE NULL AND VOID AND CITE THE 1875 CASE.....HIS GOOSE IS COOKED.... it's the ignorant people that believe the lie in the white house that are "snookered"....i just don't happen to be one of them..... now you know, and if you continue to believe he has any authority whatsoever to sign legislation into law...well, you simply can't read! |
AdHocBOHICA  User ID: 1530155 United States12/02/2011 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone on here really stopped to think that every one of these fascist fuckers that voted for this are enemies of the people and need to be taken out.Literally.Hung up and strung up .I am not scared and am ready to defend my country against all enemies foreign and domestic.That is the oath I took and I will abide by it.So according to them I am a terrorist.Come and get me motherfuckers.You're not going to like it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271280 Is THIS^^^ a "Belligerent Act" ? Seriously? “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
| KnightsTemplar.TV User ID: 1280429 United States12/02/2011 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many of you will be the first to go. You do know that, right? Just sayin... Regards, Moe [link to GnosticWarrior.com] THERE IS A WAR FOR YOUR SOUL! [link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185877 United States12/02/2011 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Zetetic Smoke and mirrors. They already have most of these abilities under the unPATRIOTiotic Act. These provisions extend the battlefield to US soil. the patriot act expired...it is unenforceable since obama has no authority to sign any legislation into law... it's all a hoax on the american people this term of office......if you know the law, none of obama's signature will hold....it's all one big farse a joke all these laws obozo signed will simple fall away, they can't be enforced and will be gone in a heartbeat when the next potus declares obama ineligible to sign and legislation. nope, you're wrong: [link to en.wikipedia.org] On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups. source other than wiki: [link to articles.latimes.com] hey, i don't care what Obama signed, he has no authority whatsoever to sign any legislation into law...so says the US Supreme Court. Back in 1875, the United States Supreme Court, in Minor v, Happersett, ruled that: “Natural Born Citizen” was defined as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.” ANY US CITIZEN CAN CHALLENGE OBOZO'S SIGNED LEGISLATION; AND PROVE THE LAWS HE SIGNED ARE NULL AND VOID AND CITE THE 1875 CASE.....HIS GOOSE IS COOKED.... it's the ignorant people that believe the lie in the white house that are "snookered"....i just don't happen to be one of them..... now you know, and if you continue to believe he has any authority whatsoever to sign legislation into law...well, you simply can't read! Everyone, and i mean Everyone i talk to about obama loaths him....they ignore him...he is simply be gone very soon and everything he has tried to put in motion as a bogus potus....WILL FAIL...simple as that..and everyone knows it....he is done.....nobody takes him seriously or any laws he signs seriously, because we all know he is ineligible to sign any law...he commands nobody....congress simply doesn't listen to him...they do as they please... same way with the military...it's like the military and congress are in sync...and obama is left out of their game plan....just biding time till he walks out of the white house on his own speed ...because he is IGNORED..BIG TIME this latest legislation by the senate is going to prove up who OBAMA really supports.....he is prime time being a non-citizen and a muslim for the military to simply deport///therefore, Obama WILL VETO THIS BILL TO SAVE HIMSELF>>>>SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS..... which is exactly what congress and the military want to prove....this bill should do it...veto coming soon! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185877 United States12/02/2011 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many of you will be the first to go. You do know that, right? Just sayin... Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV yep, if ye are muslim, brown, black militant, (black panthers) .....no doubt about it....this bill will oust obama and michelle...they waste money on vacations...10M proves they don't care about our deficit....they just keep on spending... this bill is the easy way to get rid of obama....the military will simply deport him....he he he he he.. more than one way to skin a cat...congress has found an easy way out! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185877 United States12/02/2011 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many of you will be the first to go. You do know that, right? Just sayin... Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV yep, if ye are muslim, brown, black militant, (black panthers) .....no doubt about it....this bill will oust obama and michelle...they waste money on vacations...10M proves they don't care about our deficit....they just keep on spending... this bill is the easy way to get rid of obama....the military will simply deport him....he he he he he.. more than one way to skin a cat...congress has found an easy way out! This "ACT" is a backdoor IMPEACHMENT of Obama... he he he he he...the writing is on the wall.... McCain and Levin will end this bogus POTUS! McCain represents the Military and Levin represents Congress. POSITIVE CHANGE IS COMING USA! |
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| katsung47 User ID: 5521249 United States12/02/2011 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the jewish people, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a jewish. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. |
| Shephardi User ID: 6408337  United Kingdom12/02/2011 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My understanding of the key changes are: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611270 1) National Guard now sits with Army, Navy Lieutenants, etc., in Presidential Cabinet meetings, very ominous 2) Citizens can be held for indefinite detention without right to trial 3) Anti-torture rules have been abolished (and could now apply to citizens by extension of #1) I didn't get a chance to check into this much yet but saw amendment 3 was up for debate today. If 2 was not veto'd, can't expect that 3 was. This is very official policy now, not good. I hope I am misinterpreting. Royslist Does this mean they can kick your door down,drag you away from your pc and lock you up or shoot you ?. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
| my2centsworth User ID: 5382682 Canada12/02/2011 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read this piece and it left me wondering what the heck is going on... Talk about double speak.. Speak with forked tongues... Man oh man... they have that maneuver down pat! How can they say:American citizens would be exempt. Then say:nothing in the bill changes current law relating to the detention of U.S. citizens and legal aliens And then say:American citizens and others are at greater risk of being locked away by the military without charge or trial How can anyone, believe anything in that is said? It's a total contradiction, in the same piece! Quotes from the Fox News Piece .......The bill would require military custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of Al Qaeda or its affiliates and involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. American citizens would be exempt. The bill does allow the executive branch to waive the authority based on national security and hold a suspect in civilian custody..... ...... Lengthy negotiations produced a face-saving move that the Senate backed 99-1, a measure that said nothing in the bill changes current law relating to the detention of U.S. citizens and legal aliens.............. ......."Since the bill puts military detention authority on steroids and makes it permanent, American citizens and others are at greater risk of being locked away by the military without charge or trial if this bill becomes law," said Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1105850 United States12/02/2011 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Zetetic Smoke and mirrors. They already have most of these abilities under the unPATRIOTiotic Act. These provisions extend the battlefield to US soil. the patriot act expired...it is unenforceable since obama has no authority to sign any legislation into law... it's all a hoax on the american people this term of office......if you know the law, none of obama's signature will hold....it's all one big farse a joke all these laws obozo signed will simple fall away, they can't be enforced and will be gone in a heartbeat when the next potus declares obama ineligible to sign and legislation. nope, you're wrong: [link to en.wikipedia.org] On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups. source other than wiki: [link to articles.latimes.com] hey, i don't care what Obama signed, he has no authority whatsoever to sign any legislation into law...so says the US Supreme Court. Back in 1875, the United States Supreme Court, in Minor v, Happersett, ruled that: “Natural Born Citizen” was defined as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.” ANY US CITIZEN CAN CHALLENGE OBOZO'S SIGNED LEGISLATION; AND PROVE THE LAWS HE SIGNED ARE NULL AND VOID AND CITE THE 1875 CASE.....HIS GOOSE IS COOKED.... it's the ignorant people that believe the lie in the white house that are "snookered"....i just don't happen to be one of them..... now you know, and if you continue to believe he has any authority whatsoever to sign legislation into law...well, you simply can't read! It's a bought system, sir. You know that. The criminals don't care about legal protocol anymore. They all work together to apply a new white-hot level of tyranny regardless of legislation. It's that very element which makes this unchartered waters for U.S. citizens. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 275644  Sweden12/02/2011 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, you people are overeacting AGAIN...this bill (in the amended version) didn\'t take away any rights the Patriot act hadn\'t already done..except from obama. why do you think he is talking about vetoing it. If obama doesn\'t like something it can\'t be bad or maybe even good for us, remember that. Re= read the bill as amended, no biggee other than the belligerent part, we have much worse things to worry about right now than this bill. I\'d rather have the military in control than obama and crew.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 559309 United States12/02/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| AdHocBOHICA User ID: 1530155 United States12/02/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, you people are overeacting AGAIN...this bill (in the amended version) didn\'t take away any rights the Patriot act hadn\'t already done..except from obama. why do you think he is talking about vetoing it. If obama doesn\'t like something it can\'t be bad or maybe even good for us, remember that. Re= read the bill as amended, no biggee other than the belligerent part, we have much worse things to worry about right now than this bill. I\'d rather have the military in control than obama and crew.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275644 Your intellect is about as deep as a "Kiddy Pool" during this summers Drought. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185877 United States12/02/2011 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6185877 the patriot act expired...it is unenforceable since obama has no authority to sign any legislation into law... it's all a hoax on the american people this term of office......if you know the law, none of obama's signature will hold....it's all one big farse a joke all these laws obozo signed will simple fall away, they can't be enforced and will be gone in a heartbeat when the next potus declares obama ineligible to sign and legislation. nope, you're wrong: [link to en.wikipedia.org] On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups. source other than wiki: [link to articles.latimes.com] hey, i don't care what Obama signed, he has no authority whatsoever to sign any legislation into law...so says the US Supreme Court. Back in 1875, the United States Supreme Court, in Minor v, Happersett, ruled that: “Natural Born Citizen” was defined as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.” ANY US CITIZEN CAN CHALLENGE OBOZO'S SIGNED LEGISLATION; AND PROVE THE LAWS HE SIGNED ARE NULL AND VOID AND CITE THE 1875 CASE.....HIS GOOSE IS COOKED.... it's the ignorant people that believe the lie in the white house that are "snookered"....i just don't happen to be one of them..... now you know, and if you continue to believe he has any authority whatsoever to sign legislation into law...well, you simply can't read! It's a bought system, sir. You know that. The criminals don't care about legal protocol anymore. They all work together to apply a new white-hot level of tyranny regardless of legislation. It's that very element which makes this unchartered waters for U.S. citizens. Nah, not in an election year...every House seat is up for re-election....and 33 senate seats are up for re-election....congresspeople would not risk there job on this kind of legislation being against we the people....it's clear to me this legislation is a way to get rid of Obama....watch obozo veto this bill...real quick. this is the senate...there is a house bill that passed today...to ignore all of obama's E.O.s....majority of the House passed it...Obama has already threatened to veto it...because it makes him null and void using E.O's. [link to seattletimes.nwsource.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6165305 United States12/02/2011 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a slippery slope with the passage of a bill like this. You need to look no futher than Stalin or Hitler to see the absolute paranoia that ensues when you label everyone as a potential threat to the system. The fact is, they know that what they are doing is unpopular and downright criminal. They need to make the masses FEAR going against the system.... Quoting: Question EVERYTHING Scary times we live in. I am happy that they amended the bill and that we still have some real constitutionalists residing in Washington. And the fact is, most people just want peace...but we don't seem to have that option anymore as a nation. It will be like this movie without the aliens! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6030743 Canada12/02/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does this mean that the socialist Dems will lock up so called right wing Christian extremists and then when in power the republicans will lock up the socialist Dems. A prisoner swap every four to eight years. Of course I'm exaggerating but the world is getting so crazy now. Who knows what will happen next. |
| olaf User ID: 6430372 Netherlands12/02/2011 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does this mean that the socialist Dems will lock up so called right wing Christian extremists and then when in power the republicans will lock up the socialist Dems. A prisoner swap every four to eight years. Of course I'm exaggerating but the world is getting so crazy now. Who knows what will happen next. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6030743 jail for ? ehm there is allot of time going to sit into jail for a problem you don't like to talk about because your daddy doesn;t want you to ? |
