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? Why do you care if you are ever so intelligent?
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A 135 IQ is not "ever so intelligent", it's just not stupid.

Is there some reason you have a chip on your shoulder and keep replying to MY posts with that chip in my face?

Not that I care, you're insignificant. Just curious.
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what kind of "superior" fraud ARE YOU? to call another "insignificant?" Like I said you are embarrassing yourself here and it's not pleasant to watch a human being so degrade him/herself. Have you no respect for yourself? verysadverysadverysad

It is such as this, being one reason out of many that those confined to this planet did NOT created the brotherhood of man on this world. 8 billion of you failed, how tragic.
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.......sad....

after a bad storm, including damage done in my neighborhood,
which is bad enough because people got hurt, I come back here just to find out that disrespect has continued.

I realy thought, that regardless of ones beliefesystem, nationality, colour or shoesize if you will, we could come together and debate with respect and gratitude for opinions being shared.

Was I wrong?

From now on I will ban everyone who uses foul language on this thread!!

Thank you

GOD BLESShf
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The End is Come, Man did not Unify, But OH the Success
By Siraya thru Candace
Dec 10, 2011 - 5:23:49 PM


The End is Come

Man did not Unify in Brotherhood

But OH the SUCCESS!

Siraya

December 8, 2011

Beloveds, it is with sadness but also a sense of joy that we are closing this chapter of your Earth History. The decision comes from the highest councils of the Creation, of whom I am representative of, over Orvonton. Candace may if she wish explain or provide UB material at the end.

I AM Siraya. I am Master Spirit # 7, and I reside on Paradise. I am representative of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. I personify those beings to you of the ascending mortals. I AM in fact, not only my personality, but I am also, all of you, being the source of Evolutionary Mind over Orvonton.

Now, it is not usual for one such as me to become involved in the distant evolutionary worlds, but on this world I took a personal interest and for a variety of reasons. First many of you on this planet in the teaching mission are from Paradise and Havona in one role or another. You are in training or in observation of one of the worse rebellions under my Vast domain.

Of course you know this as the Lucifer Rebellion. Lucifer, in your expression, “took the cake” in terms of those who seceded from the union. In all that has ever happened in Orvonton, nobody of angelic character actually decided to become God of a large region. And also took so many with him. This is the source of much of the so called galactic waring in your region. It was terrible. Lucifer had a full compliment of weaponry and he used it to extreme. Although your Urantia Book lays quiet on this one, this was in fact WAR in HEAVEN. And it was with weaponry.

We were aghast. But we let Lucifer and his various gangs of supporters, work it out for themselves for a very long time. This started sometime before your given records, quietly building over the eons until it erupted fully. The decision was made to let it collapse on its own weight and this did occur.

When the Master (Christ Michael) was upon your plane, Lucifer was not, he had already been removed from power. His challenge to the God’s did not become a reality in the long run. He could never create. By create we mean new beings, either angelic or human. It has taken great effort behind the scenes to keep your sector of Nebadon even alive while this worked out. Never before had we experiences with this level of rebellion and never again will this even come close to being allowed. We have had quite a setback, but at the same time, the necessary learning curve.

You ones accept that God creates with his famous magic wand, as Candace likes to refer to it, and we get much laughter over this. For the whole creation has been created by the ones who reside in it, and not by a single entity.

But lets move on. Lets get to the closing chapter here. 200,000 years ago those of that great rebellion were given a fair chance to repent. Many refused and went to uncreation, long before your planet was ever populated with your “fallen angels.” There were 10 billion various ones, angel and human, that decided to earn their way back into respectability.

They were placed on this planet you call Earth in English, and Urantia in the Heavenly records. At that time your Planetary Supreme, whom is also called Urantia was not yet “supreme.” She was truly not able to participate in the decision to place these ones here. She had not formed herself. But oh has she now grown into her own conscious divinity, and you ones imprisoned here can no longer inhabit her surface.

You were given 200,000 years dear ones, to grow up, prove yourselves, understand from the very inside view what you have created, for it was your creation to join in this and become gods. Or so you thought you had been promised by Lucifer. Sadly 8 billion of you did not get the message, and are still trying to become God’s on your own and you fight even amongst yourselves still who will have dominion of the planet. Well, you had your chance. YOU BLEW IT. You have all been through your karma. You have been the warriors and you have been the victims. And even experiencing as the victim, you did not learn what human experiences are, on the other side of the coin. You go right back into being warriors.

You thought you could keep Earth? You would destroy her, if you could NOT UNIFY into brotherhood, that chore which all ascending humans on the evolutionary worlds must accomplish. You did not learn you are not separate from the planetary mind. You had opportunity of greatness that was given to you, because simply, you did not know of what you did, when you entered the rebellion. You were forgiven, but only on condition you take a journey similar to what human must make, to become a unit of divinity.

YOU DID NOT FOUND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN UNDER THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD. THIS IS IMMENSE FAILURE BRETHREN. THE MOTHER DESPITE YOUR ABUSE OF HER HOWEVER, DID RISE UP AND FIND HERSELF WITHOUT YOU.

NOW THAT IS THE GREAT SUCCESS STORY HERE FOR HER. GAIA FOUND HER GOD MIND OR GODDESS MIND IF YOU WELL. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MICHAEL, WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED THE PLANET WOULD HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND A GREAT POTENTIAL LOST.

FOR ON ALL PLANETS IN THE NORMAL SITUATIONS, IF MAN DOES NOT UNIFY, THE MOTHER ALSO DOES NOT BECOME EXISTENT, IN HER GLORY. GAIA DID. NOW WHAT SAY YOU DARK BROTHERS? THE IGNORANT MOTHER FOUND HERSELF AND YOU COULD NOT?

2 BILLION OF YOU PASSED, REASONABLY SO. Many of these did return to their former estates. Actually 1 billion of you are back in the realms of glory with a wondrous new understanding, and of this we are of course in joy, because never again will these ones fail. They are strong now, and will be even wiser for this, having done “the been there and done that,” another term, Candace loves to use. Unto you who fled from glory, unto glory you have returned and then some, and in that regard for these ones, the experiment of repentance under the mercy and grace of God was successful. We hoped for more though. We did not expect 100%, but we hoped for more.

8 billion of you cannot become gods. You were not created as creators and you will no more muck up this glorious planet, this planetary supreme who found herself, out of the muck. She eventualized. What happened to YOU?

Well, some of you are facing the grand courts, of Orvonton. It does not look pretty for you. Others who possess some hope, will get another chance in the DISTANT FUTURE for you ones will never be placed but a few at a time on distant worlds, for you are without trust at this point. We cannot place you in numbers anywhere. You will wait for what may seem like eons in a state of complete sleep, ignorant of your existence, until that day down the road.

You had such opportunity. Such grace was offered. We hoped that the offer would produce true grandeur in terms of your future works. You and you alone are held accountable for your choices and actions.

We are giving out at lot of grace, because you created slave beings to the robotoids who had little chance. But surprise, some of them found the Father, a thing even you could not do. And the ones who really didn’t find the Father, but are sweet kind folks, will also get a stupendous chance to become truly human. They go to other worlds, young worlds, to being an incarnational journey in hopes they will find themselves, meaning truly individuate. The Father has such great mercy.

I had such great mercy on you. For it was I who approved the Mercy for you, overriding the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. For 200,000 years I have hoped, and hoped, and hoped. Slowly some of you came around, those 20%. Well 1/2 of those will endure further trials, as these ones have covered 51% or more of their karma. They will get additional chance. But they will submit to the leadership of Michael on this world. They will not have hundreds of thousands of years to finish up.

All those born of human in these ages upon this world since the return of Michael, are cared for. They are young. They will be cleansed of your filth and given fresh opportunity on the younger worlds.

The astral realms of this world will be dismantled. They were of course full of those humans over a time that you did not allow to progress, and who had been trapped here.

They are released to move forward. Even though Michael released them to journey as necessary forward, so many were too immature to move much in each life. We will be gradually resurrecting all these ones, even though they are not ready, to the mansion worlds. That is the purpose here now in part of AA Michael’s team. He is the angel of the resurrection.

The robotoids having potential cannot go there yet, they must have opportunity to earn their thought adjusters. Opportunity will be given as above. They will not experience the destruction you planned to invest even upon them, who you called useless eaters.

You 8 billion ones, who did not cut the mustard, will be contained in holodeks, until you can be processed. You are done on this world. Those 1 billion who get one more chance to make the grade, will have mercy of exactly two lifetimes to establish the BrotherHood of Man on this planet. This will be accomplished by each of you, or not, and as a group. This will be your task. This time, it will be done under the normal Nebadon oversight of this world. You will do it, or you will not. Its that simple.

The planet will be cleansed of your filth. All of it. The animals evolutionary patterns will be restored to normal by seasoned beings here for that purpose, under the direction of the great geneticist Skekhmet. This is not a thing the Life Carriers can do.

You were given the care of this seed planet, you were so sure you could do that but you set into the infighting and instead nearly destroyed it.

Gaia will make her Ascension shortly. Normally this is done in concert with the sons and daughters coming into Godness with her. She adopted you ones, although she did not fully understand what she had done and look what you brought upon her and all her life.

5 times this planet has tossed you down. This is number 6. Not much of a tract record is it? And you proved what? Beloveds, WHY? For so long all will be asking that question that have been concerned with this arena. But dear brothers in God, you are finished and remember, you are not more powerful than those above you and you did not prevail.

Now, lets get on with some good news, for those of you who came to help the depraved ones. Some many of you have suffered at their hands, even unto the Creator Son, who has given so much grace to those of his and Nebadonia’s creation. You volunteered in the millions to lift up this world. To bring it music, theater, films, television, and the greet achievement of the internet. Your gifts have been substantial, worthy and brought comfort to the lesser ones of this world.

You taught animal husbandry and you took so many animals into your arms, that something wondrous happened also not expected on this world. The higher animals are becoming human before they journey in a human body. How glorious is that! This is rare on normal planets beloveds. You have given them such dignity, they wanted to become like you. And they are and we of the hierarchy actually have to change a few things, under the direction of Shehkmet on that one. This is a stupendous accomplishment.

Your brought love to those in need. You helped the poor. You brought and demonstrated goodness where there was none and showed another and better way. You gave hope. The disabled have wheelchairs, they have medical care now in much of the world. They have love and they have hope.

You have graced this world with nearly celestial level music, particularly this last 50 years, music even beyond the times of the Renaissance. You have perfected the art of acting on this world, even under the pressure of ones who did not want the light in the films. You demonstrated through film proper family life. That is until recently when you have been siderailed hugely by money and power.

You have developed technologies where those who preceded you, like the great Tesla could not. You could not bring in what is labeled free energy, but you did well otherwise and the world is a glow in light even if its methods are not what would have been the best. You got it lighted by whatever means you were able to do so.

You brought transportation to the common man. First the railroads, then the auto. You brought housing to the common man. You brought technology to make life easier to the common man. Examples such as washing machines, heat and related necessities.

And most importantly once more, the Internet. You developed your best programming. You have prevented the dark by that programming, from shutting it all down. You made it impervious to them. Try as they might, and they have, it stays running. That is an incredible accomplishment.

The dark were given some carrots initially but when they realized the potential of enlightenment through the Internet, they put on some brakes, but you were not squashed. You listened to the Father Within who gave you programming skills you could only dream of, and so it stands.

So many of you who are “star seed” have been here so long. You are tired, all of you, we find no star seed over 20 years of age in this life time who is not already tired. It is not due to the food and pesticides, but due to being tired of the effort it takes to accomplish something, but yet you have. Even those who have forgotten who they are over the long duration of time. Some of you have been here since the repopulation of Earth after the last trip thru the photon belt.

YOU HAVE ENDURED and your rewards in heaven shall be great. While these dark ones failed, you so shined that your light cannot be covered. You have won. And we are supporting that. There are over 100 million of you who have endured here anywhere from 11,000 years to the last several hundred. You have endured the inquisitions and so many other roundups. You have endured in Mother Russia, who has once again STOOD IN THIS WORLD in LIGHT. At all costs. She survived the great destruction of over 100 years ago now.

While we hoped the United States would rise to shine the greatest light ever on this world, that did not happen. But nevertheless you ones within that country did well. You should not feel rejected and lost and so many of you do feel that way, at this time of great repression on you.

YOU HAVE LIVED and SHOWN the WAY and by your efforts did this planetary mother awaken to her own being. That again IS the biggest surprise of all. Now rest in your glories dear ones, for the GOOD NEWS is far GRANDER than the SAD NEWS.

You ones have so grown in stature, and you will go rise up to further glory. You have survived the greatest of rebellions in Orvonton and well more than survived, you have a created a new way and that is NOT going unnoticed. You will serve well in your future journeys. You have so glorified the Father. IN YOU HE IS WELL PLEASED. You have saved a whole area of the Creation from extinction. You have the expertise now to deal with other dark beings who will manifest, that is the nature of free will.

There will be conclaves on conclaves on conclaves in the future. Whole “universities” will arise to discover what you have done and many of you will be the best of “professors.” These celestial universities will be in Nebadon, Orvonton, and indeed even in Havona. For unto you, the whole of the future creations look BRIGHT. The end of the long age of Evil has come. Never will it rise to this extent again. EVER,for YOUR SUCCESSES WILL NOT ALLOW OF IT. I SIRAYA, Master Spirit of Orvonton, STAND SO PROUD OF YOU. You are our most cherished of folks. I AM SIRAYA.



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No I am not "mad", but you are making a fool out of yourself and its NOT pretty.
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At least *I* know I am and am having fun with it.
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You won't have fun when shit hit the fan and you are held accountable for misleading others and spreading lies.
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You've got 2 weeks and three days to make this happen. If not, then what? You fail? I'm not making fun, I'm seriously asking you NIP.
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I'm trying to understand,ok? Now, either this will happen or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then what? Honestly, I want to know. I'm the one who asked that yesterday.
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You've got 2 weeks and three days to make this happen. If not, then what? You fail? I'm not making fun, I'm seriously asking you NIP.
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I'm trying to understand,ok? Now, either this will happen or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then what? Honestly, I want to know. I'm the one who asked that yesterday.
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Its going to happen and you will not know when it does, until such point as you are awakened later.
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You've got 2 weeks and three days to make this happen. If not, then what? You fail? I'm not making fun, I'm seriously asking you NIP.
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I'm trying to understand,ok? Now, either this will happen or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then what? Honestly, I want to know. I'm the one who asked that yesterday.
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Its going to happen and you will not know when it does, until such point as you are awakened later.
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Well, it looks like 8 billion of us failed the class, so, looks like we have to go back through what retraining? See? this is why I hate not knowing or being able to recall things that should be very important until it's too late.
NIP< There's an old saying, "When God closes one door, He always opens up another. And He's gonna put you where He wants you to beat the right time at the right place always."

So, everyone goes to sleep and we will awaken later and then we all have to go be judged or talked to by who,the Most Highs, who? IF we haven't fused with our Thought Adjusters yet, Then does that mean we're all screwed? Or do we go back into some sort of training?
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You've got 2 weeks and three days to make this happen. If not, then what? You fail? I'm not making fun, I'm seriously asking you NIP.
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I'm trying to understand,ok? Now, either this will happen or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then what? Honestly, I want to know. I'm the one who asked that yesterday.
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Its going to happen and you will not know when it does, until such point as you are awakened later.
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Well, it looks like 8 billion of us failed the class, so, looks like we have to go back through what retraining? See? this is why I hate not knowing or being able to recall things that should be very important until it's too late.
NIP< There's an old saying, "When God closes one door, He always opens up another. And He's gonna put you where He wants you to beat the right time at the right place always."

So, everyone goes to sleep and we will awaken later and then we all have to go be judged or talked to by who,the Most Highs, who? IF we haven't fused with our Thought Adjusters yet, Then does that mean we're all screwed? Or do we go back into some sort of training?
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so are you suggesting you are one of the 8 billion here? you know if you are or not. Doesn't sound like it. The message was directed to them, of the lucifer rebellion/galactic thug group. All others coming out of the evolution of this planet will simply be moved to any of several situations that are appropriate for their learning and where they are. I covered that in an earlier post in the stasis thread maybe a couple weeks ago now. There are many billions of souls maturing here NOT of the Lucifer Rebellion. Their stories are different. Where they are moved is different. It is these ones being evacuated off the planet, who are incarnate at any rate, those of the Rebellion who did not mature will remain for a very long time in a "sleep" condition as they are processed. They are staying in stasis ON the planet for a time, until the others being lifted off the planet are situated.

4 years ago the Reptilians were are removed, 8 billion of them too. These are just Reptilians folks, not part of the rebellion. They had been on the planet for 4 million years, and lived themselves in a rather controlled society. Most were not nasty power driven beings, just your ordinary every days folks too.

The power beings here who tended to "possess" or use people are the ones invisible. These ones for the most part will come off the planet enmass during the magnetic Reversal. That is what it does.

INcluding the folks in the astral realms who are not incarnate I would have no idea who many souls have been evolving on this world. LOTS. The astral realms most of the time, are more populated than the physical. The only folks going to "judgement" are those needing of it. Everyone else is just sorted. Many folks here from other worlds on a volunteer basis, will in fact mostly be sorted BACK HOME.

Nobody is "screwed". All planets face sorting and lift off at the end of the age, generally until they enter LIGHT and LIFE. This is common, planetary civilizations often over populate themselves and the ends of ages are cyclic when planets are in photon belts and other cosmic energies. This end of this age on Earth is a biggy, because we are also in the energies from the Milky Way Center, which are totally different than the photon belt energies.
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I'm trying to understand,ok? Now, either this will happen or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then what? Honestly, I want to know. I'm the one who asked that yesterday.
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Its going to happen and you will not know when it does, until such point as you are awakened later.
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Well, it looks like 8 billion of us failed the class, so, looks like we have to go back through what retraining? See? this is why I hate not knowing or being able to recall things that should be very important until it's too late.
NIP< There's an old saying, "When God closes one door, He always opens up another. And He's gonna put you where He wants you to beat the right time at the right place always."

So, everyone goes to sleep and we will awaken later and then we all have to go be judged or talked to by who,the Most Highs, who? IF we haven't fused with our Thought Adjusters yet, Then does that mean we're all screwed? Or do we go back into some sort of training?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2174731


so are you suggesting you are one of the 8 billion here? you know if you are or not. Doesn't sound like it. The message was directed to them, of the lucifer rebellion/galactic thug group. All others coming out of the evolution of this planet will simply be moved to any of several situations that are appropriate for their learning and where they are. I covered that in an earlier post in the stasis thread maybe a couple weeks ago now. There are many billions of souls maturing here NOT of the Lucifer Rebellion. Their stories are different. Where they are moved is different. It is these ones being evacuated off the planet, who are incarnate at any rate, those of the Rebellion who did not mature will remain for a very long time in a "sleep" condition as they are processed. They are staying in stasis ON the planet for a time, until the others being lifted off the planet are situated.

4 years ago the Reptilians were are removed, 8 billion of them too. These are just Reptilians folks, not part of the rebellion. They had been on the planet for 4 million years, and lived themselves in a rather controlled society. Most were not nasty power driven beings, just your ordinary every days folks too.

The power beings here who tended to "possess" or use people are the ones invisible. These ones for the most part will come off the planet enmass during the magnetic Reversal. That is what it does.

INcluding the folks in the astral realms who are not incarnate I would have no idea who many souls have been evolving on this world. LOTS. The astral realms most of the time, are more populated than the physical. The only folks going to "judgement" are those needing of it. Everyone else is just sorted. Many folks here from other worlds on a volunteer basis, will in fact mostly be sorted BACK HOME.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


I don't know what to think,NIP< honestly. I am so confused as to all of this. I know that I don't like to think of what the dark thugs are gonna do. I hate violence but i do believe in self defense.I consider myself a people pleaser, which would make me a slave to those who swear they would rather lead than follow.
All I want is to understand. All i have ever wanted is to make others happy and to feel appreciated and useful. Don't you?
Why am I here if there is no need for me anymore?
Right now I feel un-needed and unwanted by even my own family.
Sad to think that you bust your butt all your life trying to make others happy and all you do is get shit on for it and then nobody needs you anymore and that's it. Can you nderstand how I feel?
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Thread: Stasis, mini stasis, craft, Jupiter (Page 9) is the page in the stasis thread where I gave the general ideas of sortment.
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Well, it looks like 8 billion of us failed the class, so, looks like we have to go back through what retraining? See? this is why I hate not knowing or being able to recall things that should be very important until it's too late.
NIP< There's an old saying, "When God closes one door, He always opens up another. And He's gonna put you where He wants you to beat the right time at the right place always."

So, everyone goes to sleep and we will awaken later and then we all have to go be judged or talked to by who,the Most Highs, who? IF we haven't fused with our Thought Adjusters yet, Then does that mean we're all screwed? Or do we go back into some sort of training?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2174731


so are you suggesting you are one of the 8 billion here? you know if you are or not. Doesn't sound like it. The message was directed to them, of the lucifer rebellion/galactic thug group. All others coming out of the evolution of this planet will simply be moved to any of several situations that are appropriate for their learning and where they are. I covered that in an earlier post in the stasis thread maybe a couple weeks ago now. There are many billions of souls maturing here NOT of the Lucifer Rebellion. Their stories are different. Where they are moved is different. It is these ones being evacuated off the planet, who are incarnate at any rate, those of the Rebellion who did not mature will remain for a very long time in a "sleep" condition as they are processed. They are staying in stasis ON the planet for a time, until the others being lifted off the planet are situated.

4 years ago the Reptilians were are removed, 8 billion of them too. These are just Reptilians folks, not part of the rebellion. They had been on the planet for 4 million years, and lived themselves in a rather controlled society. Most were not nasty power driven beings, just your ordinary every days folks too.

The power beings here who tended to "possess" or use people are the ones invisible. These ones for the most part will come off the planet enmass during the magnetic Reversal. That is what it does.

INcluding the folks in the astral realms who are not incarnate I would have no idea who many souls have been evolving on this world. LOTS. The astral realms most of the time, are more populated than the physical. The only folks going to "judgement" are those needing of it. Everyone else is just sorted. Many folks here from other worlds on a volunteer basis, will in fact mostly be sorted BACK HOME.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


I don't know what to think,NIP< honestly. I am so confused as to all of this. I know that I don't like to think of what the dark thugs are gonna do. I hate violence but i do believe in self defense.I consider myself a people pleaser, which would make me a slave to those who swear they would rather lead than follow.
All I want is to understand. All i have ever wanted is to make others happy and to feel appreciated and useful. Don't you?
Why am I here if there is no need for me anymore?
Right now I feel un-needed and unwanted by even my own family.
Sad to think that you bust your butt all your life trying to make others happy and all you do is get shit on for it and then nobody needs you anymore and that's it. Can you nderstand how I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2174731


Yes I can understand how you feel, and until I started this work I felt much the same. And I was in fact given the opportunity to leave, but made a different choice. Maybe its simply YOU have finished what you are here to do? Or maybe that the mass confusion is so bad you don't know what to do? Or can't find anything to do, or a combination of all of the above.

What is coming is a restart for so many of you, a step up the ladder, or a going home, and it will be JOYFUL. hf

Perhaps these final times are good for introspection some more, looking at the good, the bad the ugly, whatever. Sorting memories. Looking thru the material stuff too. I wish we could evacuate openly, that was hoped for as part of the teaching period , people volunteering openly. I really wanted that part. WE had planned email contact to craft, rides too and from for tours. TV tours by live camera, all that stuff. The reason we must evacuate after stasis being created is all the fear and unknowing, the mind control of religion of people who not a clue about the cosmos and its management. I would have liked to try that, not sure how well it would be accepted but we knew that many would come into sudden memory of their cosmic roots and help the others.

I still hope for that, its a story hard to give up.
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The End is Come, Man did not Unify, But OH the Success
By Siraya thru Candace
Dec 10, 2011 - 5:23:49 PM


The End is Come

Man did not Unify in Brotherhood

But OH the SUCCESS!

Siraya

December 8, 2011

Beloveds, it is with sadness but also a sense of joy that we are closing this chapter of your Earth History. The decision comes from the highest councils of the Creation, of whom I am representative of, over Orvonton. Candace may if she wish explain or provide UB material at the end.

I AM Siraya. I am Master Spirit # 7, and I reside on Paradise. I am representative of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. I personify those beings to you of the ascending mortals. I AM in fact, not only my personality, but I am also, all of you, being the source of Evolutionary Mind over Orvonton.

Now, it is not usual for one such as me to become involved in the distant evolutionary worlds, but on this world I took a personal interest and for a variety of reasons. First many of you on this planet in the teaching mission are from Paradise and Havona in one role or another. You are in training or in observation of one of the worse rebellions under my Vast domain.

Of course you know this as the Lucifer Rebellion. Lucifer, in your expression, “took the cake” in terms of those who seceded from the union. In all that has ever happened in Orvonton, nobody of angelic character actually decided to become God of a large region. And also took so many with him. This is the source of much of the so called galactic waring in your region. It was terrible. Lucifer had a full compliment of weaponry and he used it to extreme. Although your Urantia Book lays quiet on this one, this was in fact WAR in HEAVEN. And it was with weaponry.

We were aghast. But we let Lucifer and his various gangs of supporters, work it out for themselves for a very long time. This started sometime before your given records, quietly building over the eons until it erupted fully. The decision was made to let it collapse on its own weight and this did occur.

When the Master (Christ Michael) was upon your plane, Lucifer was not, he had already been removed from power. His challenge to the God’s did not become a reality in the long run. He could never create. By create we mean new beings, either angelic or human. It has taken great effort behind the scenes to keep your sector of Nebadon even alive while this worked out. Never before had we experiences with this level of rebellion and never again will this even come close to being allowed. We have had quite a setback, but at the same time, the necessary learning curve.

You ones accept that God creates with his famous magic wand, as Candace likes to refer to it, and we get much laughter over this. For the whole creation has been created by the ones who reside in it, and not by a single entity.

But lets move on. Lets get to the closing chapter here. 200,000 years ago those of that great rebellion were given a fair chance to repent. Many refused and went to uncreation, long before your planet was ever populated with your “fallen angels.” There were 10 billion various ones, angel and human, that decided to earn their way back into respectability.

They were placed on this planet you call Earth in English, and Urantia in the Heavenly records. At that time your Planetary Supreme, whom is also called Urantia was not yet “supreme.” She was truly not able to participate in the decision to place these ones here. She had not formed herself. But oh has she now grown into her own conscious divinity, and you ones imprisoned here can no longer inhabit her surface.

You were given 200,000 years dear ones, to grow up, prove yourselves, understand from the very inside view what you have created, for it was your creation to join in this and become gods. Or so you thought you had been promised by Lucifer. Sadly 8 billion of you did not get the message, and are still trying to become God’s on your own and you fight even amongst yourselves still who will have dominion of the planet. Well, you had your chance. YOU BLEW IT. You have all been through your karma. You have been the warriors and you have been the victims. And even experiencing as the victim, you did not learn what human experiences are, on the other side of the coin. You go right back into being warriors.

You thought you could keep Earth? You would destroy her, if you could NOT UNIFY into brotherhood, that chore which all ascending humans on the evolutionary worlds must accomplish. You did not learn you are not separate from the planetary mind. You had opportunity of greatness that was given to you, because simply, you did not know of what you did, when you entered the rebellion. You were forgiven, but only on condition you take a journey similar to what human must make, to become a unit of divinity.

YOU DID NOT FOUND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN UNDER THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD. THIS IS IMMENSE FAILURE BRETHREN. THE MOTHER DESPITE YOUR ABUSE OF HER HOWEVER, DID RISE UP AND FIND HERSELF WITHOUT YOU.

NOW THAT IS THE GREAT SUCCESS STORY HERE FOR HER. GAIA FOUND HER GOD MIND OR GODDESS MIND IF YOU WELL. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MICHAEL, WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED THE PLANET WOULD HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND A GREAT POTENTIAL LOST.

FOR ON ALL PLANETS IN THE NORMAL SITUATIONS, IF MAN DOES NOT UNIFY, THE MOTHER ALSO DOES NOT BECOME EXISTENT, IN HER GLORY. GAIA DID. NOW WHAT SAY YOU DARK BROTHERS? THE IGNORANT MOTHER FOUND HERSELF AND YOU COULD NOT?

2 BILLION OF YOU PASSED, REASONABLY SO. Many of these did return to their former estates. Actually 1 billion of you are back in the realms of glory with a wondrous new understanding, and of this we are of course in joy, because never again will these ones fail. They are strong now, and will be even wiser for this, having done “the been there and done that,” another term, Candace loves to use. Unto you who fled from glory, unto glory you have returned and then some, and in that regard for these ones, the experiment of repentance under the mercy and grace of God was successful. We hoped for more though. We did not expect 100%, but we hoped for more.

8 billion of you cannot become gods. You were not created as creators and you will no more muck up this glorious planet, this planetary supreme who found herself, out of the muck. She eventualized. What happened to YOU?

Well, some of you are facing the grand courts, of Orvonton. It does not look pretty for you. Others who possess some hope, will get another chance in the DISTANT FUTURE for you ones will never be placed but a few at a time on distant worlds, for you are without trust at this point. We cannot place you in numbers anywhere. You will wait for what may seem like eons in a state of complete sleep, ignorant of your existence, until that day down the road.

You had such opportunity. Such grace was offered. We hoped that the offer would produce true grandeur in terms of your future works. You and you alone are held accountable for your choices and actions.

We are giving out at lot of grace, because you created slave beings to the robotoids who had little chance. But surprise, some of them found the Father, a thing even you could not do. And the ones who really didn’t find the Father, but are sweet kind folks, will also get a stupendous chance to become truly human. They go to other worlds, young worlds, to being an incarnational journey in hopes they will find themselves, meaning truly individuate. The Father has such great mercy.

I had such great mercy on you. For it was I who approved the Mercy for you, overriding the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. For 200,000 years I have hoped, and hoped, and hoped. Slowly some of you came around, those 20%. Well 1/2 of those will endure further trials, as these ones have covered 51% or more of their karma. They will get additional chance. But they will submit to the leadership of Michael on this world. They will not have hundreds of thousands of years to finish up.

All those born of human in these ages upon this world since the return of Michael, are cared for. They are young. They will be cleansed of your filth and given fresh opportunity on the younger worlds.

The astral realms of this world will be dismantled. They were of course full of those humans over a time that you did not allow to progress, and who had been trapped here.

They are released to move forward. Even though Michael released them to journey as necessary forward, so many were too immature to move much in each life. We will be gradually resurrecting all these ones, even though they are not ready, to the mansion worlds. That is the purpose here now in part of AA Michael’s team. He is the angel of the resurrection.

The robotoids having potential cannot go there yet, they must have opportunity to earn their thought adjusters. Opportunity will be given as above. They will not experience the destruction you planned to invest even upon them, who you called useless eaters.

You 8 billion ones, who did not cut the mustard, will be contained in holodeks, until you can be processed. You are done on this world. Those 1 billion who get one more chance to make the grade, will have mercy of exactly two lifetimes to establish the BrotherHood of Man on this planet. This will be accomplished by each of you, or not, and as a group. This will be your task. This time, it will be done under the normal Nebadon oversight of this world. You will do it, or you will not. Its that simple.

The planet will be cleansed of your filth. All of it. The animals evolutionary patterns will be restored to normal by seasoned beings here for that purpose, under the direction of the great geneticist Skekhmet. This is not a thing the Life Carriers can do.

You were given the care of this seed planet, you were so sure you could do that but you set into the infighting and instead nearly destroyed it.

Gaia will make her Ascension shortly. Normally this is done in concert with the sons and daughters coming into Godness with her. She adopted you ones, although she did not fully understand what she had done and look what you brought upon her and all her life.

5 times this planet has tossed you down. This is number 6. Not much of a tract record is it? And you proved what? Beloveds, WHY? For so long all will be asking that question that have been concerned with this arena. But dear brothers in God, you are finished and remember, you are not more powerful than those above you and you did not prevail.

Now, lets get on with some good news, for those of you who came to help the depraved ones. Some many of you have suffered at their hands, even unto the Creator Son, who has given so much grace to those of his and Nebadonia’s creation. You volunteered in the millions to lift up this world. To bring it music, theater, films, television, and the greet achievement of the internet. Your gifts have been substantial, worthy and brought comfort to the lesser ones of this world.

You taught animal husbandry and you took so many animals into your arms, that something wondrous happened also not expected on this world. The higher animals are becoming human before they journey in a human body. How glorious is that! This is rare on normal planets beloveds. You have given them such dignity, they wanted to become like you. And they are and we of the hierarchy actually have to change a few things, under the direction of Shehkmet on that one. This is a stupendous accomplishment.

Your brought love to those in need. You helped the poor. You brought and demonstrated goodness where there was none and showed another and better way. You gave hope. The disabled have wheelchairs, they have medical care now in much of the world. They have love and they have hope.

You have graced this world with nearly celestial level music, particularly this last 50 years, music even beyond the times of the Renaissance. You have perfected the art of acting on this world, even under the pressure of ones who did not want the light in the films. You demonstrated through film proper family life. That is until recently when you have been siderailed hugely by money and power.

You have developed technologies where those who preceded you, like the great Tesla could not. You could not bring in what is labeled free energy, but you did well otherwise and the world is a glow in light even if its methods are not what would have been the best. You got it lighted by whatever means you were able to do so.

You brought transportation to the common man. First the railroads, then the auto. You brought housing to the common man. You brought technology to make life easier to the common man. Examples such as washing machines, heat and related necessities.

And most importantly once more, the Internet. You developed your best programming. You have prevented the dark by that programming, from shutting it all down. You made it impervious to them. Try as they might, and they have, it stays running. That is an incredible accomplishment.

The dark were given some carrots initially but when they realized the potential of enlightenment through the Internet, they put on some brakes, but you were not squashed. You listened to the Father Within who gave you programming skills you could only dream of, and so it stands.

So many of you who are “star seed” have been here so long. You are tired, all of you, we find no star seed over 20 years of age in this life time who is not already tired. It is not due to the food and pesticides, but due to being tired of the effort it takes to accomplish something, but yet you have. Even those who have forgotten who they are over the long duration of time. Some of you have been here since the repopulation of Earth after the last trip thru the photon belt.

YOU HAVE ENDURED and your rewards in heaven shall be great. While these dark ones failed, you so shined that your light cannot be covered. You have won. And we are supporting that. There are over 100 million of you who have endured here anywhere from 11,000 years to the last several hundred. You have endured the inquisitions and so many other roundups. You have endured in Mother Russia, who has once again STOOD IN THIS WORLD in LIGHT. At all costs. She survived the great destruction of over 100 years ago now.

While we hoped the United States would rise to shine the greatest light ever on this world, that did not happen. But nevertheless you ones within that country did well. You should not feel rejected and lost and so many of you do feel that way, at this time of great repression on you.

YOU HAVE LIVED and SHOWN the WAY and by your efforts did this planetary mother awaken to her own being. That again IS the biggest surprise of all. Now rest in your glories dear ones, for the GOOD NEWS is far GRANDER than the SAD NEWS.

You ones have so grown in stature, and you will go rise up to further glory. You have survived the greatest of rebellions in Orvonton and well more than survived, you have a created a new way and that is NOT going unnoticed. You will serve well in your future journeys. You have so glorified the Father. IN YOU HE IS WELL PLEASED. You have saved a whole area of the Creation from extinction. You have the expertise now to deal with other dark beings who will manifest, that is the nature of free will.

There will be conclaves on conclaves on conclaves in the future. Whole “universities” will arise to discover what you have done and many of you will be the best of “professors.” These celestial universities will be in Nebadon, Orvonton, and indeed even in Havona. For unto you, the whole of the future creations look BRIGHT. The end of the long age of Evil has come. Never will it rise to this extent again. EVER,for YOUR SUCCESSES WILL NOT ALLOW OF IT. I SIRAYA, Master Spirit of Orvonton, STAND SO PROUD OF YOU. You are our most cherished of folks. I AM SIRAYA.



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wow they know how to make powder/paint/chemicals and people who did not demolish the factory ?

and are now eating the solar system.


and eh get unserious it realy will help.
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The End is Come, Man did not Unify, But OH the Success
By Siraya thru Candace
Dec 10, 2011 - 5:23:49 PM


The End is Come

Man did not Unify in Brotherhood

But OH the SUCCESS!

Siraya

December 8, 2011

Beloveds, it is with sadness but also a sense of joy that we are closing this chapter of your Earth History. The decision comes from the highest councils of the Creation, of whom I am representative of, over Orvonton. Candace may if she wish explain or provide UB material at the end.

I AM Siraya. I am Master Spirit # 7, and I reside on Paradise. I am representative of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. I personify those beings to you of the ascending mortals. I AM in fact, not only my personality, but I am also, all of you, being the source of Evolutionary Mind over Orvonton.

Now, it is not usual for one such as me to become involved in the distant evolutionary worlds, but on this world I took a personal interest and for a variety of reasons. First many of you on this planet in the teaching mission are from Paradise and Havona in one role or another. You are in training or in observation of one of the worse rebellions under my Vast domain.

Of course you know this as the Lucifer Rebellion. Lucifer, in your expression, “took the cake” in terms of those who seceded from the union. In all that has ever happened in Orvonton, nobody of angelic character actually decided to become God of a large region. And also took so many with him. This is the source of much of the so called galactic waring in your region. It was terrible. Lucifer had a full compliment of weaponry and he used it to extreme. Although your Urantia Book lays quiet on this one, this was in fact WAR in HEAVEN. And it was with weaponry.

We were aghast. But we let Lucifer and his various gangs of supporters, work it out for themselves for a very long time. This started sometime before your given records, quietly building over the eons until it erupted fully. The decision was made to let it collapse on its own weight and this did occur.

When the Master (Christ Michael) was upon your plane, Lucifer was not, he had already been removed from power. His challenge to the God’s did not become a reality in the long run. He could never create. By create we mean new beings, either angelic or human. It has taken great effort behind the scenes to keep your sector of Nebadon even alive while this worked out. Never before had we experiences with this level of rebellion and never again will this even come close to being allowed. We have had quite a setback, but at the same time, the necessary learning curve.

You ones accept that God creates with his famous magic wand, as Candace likes to refer to it, and we get much laughter over this. For the whole creation has been created by the ones who reside in it, and not by a single entity.

But lets move on. Lets get to the closing chapter here. 200,000 years ago those of that great rebellion were given a fair chance to repent. Many refused and went to uncreation, long before your planet was ever populated with your “fallen angels.” There were 10 billion various ones, angel and human, that decided to earn their way back into respectability.

They were placed on this planet you call Earth in English, and Urantia in the Heavenly records. At that time your Planetary Supreme, whom is also called Urantia was not yet “supreme.” She was truly not able to participate in the decision to place these ones here. She had not formed herself. But oh has she now grown into her own conscious divinity, and you ones imprisoned here can no longer inhabit her surface.

You were given 200,000 years dear ones, to grow up, prove yourselves, understand from the very inside view what you have created, for it was your creation to join in this and become gods. Or so you thought you had been promised by Lucifer. Sadly 8 billion of you did not get the message, and are still trying to become God’s on your own and you fight even amongst yourselves still who will have dominion of the planet. Well, you had your chance. YOU BLEW IT. You have all been through your karma. You have been the warriors and you have been the victims. And even experiencing as the victim, you did not learn what human experiences are, on the other side of the coin. You go right back into being warriors.

You thought you could keep Earth? You would destroy her, if you could NOT UNIFY into brotherhood, that chore which all ascending humans on the evolutionary worlds must accomplish. You did not learn you are not separate from the planetary mind. You had opportunity of greatness that was given to you, because simply, you did not know of what you did, when you entered the rebellion. You were forgiven, but only on condition you take a journey similar to what human must make, to become a unit of divinity.

YOU DID NOT FOUND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN UNDER THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD. THIS IS IMMENSE FAILURE BRETHREN. THE MOTHER DESPITE YOUR ABUSE OF HER HOWEVER, DID RISE UP AND FIND HERSELF WITHOUT YOU.

NOW THAT IS THE GREAT SUCCESS STORY HERE FOR HER. GAIA FOUND HER GOD MIND OR GODDESS MIND IF YOU WELL. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MICHAEL, WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED THE PLANET WOULD HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND A GREAT POTENTIAL LOST.

FOR ON ALL PLANETS IN THE NORMAL SITUATIONS, IF MAN DOES NOT UNIFY, THE MOTHER ALSO DOES NOT BECOME EXISTENT, IN HER GLORY. GAIA DID. NOW WHAT SAY YOU DARK BROTHERS? THE IGNORANT MOTHER FOUND HERSELF AND YOU COULD NOT?

2 BILLION OF YOU PASSED, REASONABLY SO. Many of these did return to their former estates. Actually 1 billion of you are back in the realms of glory with a wondrous new understanding, and of this we are of course in joy, because never again will these ones fail. They are strong now, and will be even wiser for this, having done “the been there and done that,” another term, Candace loves to use. Unto you who fled from glory, unto glory you have returned and then some, and in that regard for these ones, the experiment of repentance under the mercy and grace of God was successful. We hoped for more though. We did not expect 100%, but we hoped for more.

8 billion of you cannot become gods. You were not created as creators and you will no more muck up this glorious planet, this planetary supreme who found herself, out of the muck. She eventualized. What happened to YOU?

Well, some of you are facing the grand courts, of Orvonton. It does not look pretty for you. Others who possess some hope, will get another chance in the DISTANT FUTURE for you ones will never be placed but a few at a time on distant worlds, for you are without trust at this point. We cannot place you in numbers anywhere. You will wait for what may seem like eons in a state of complete sleep, ignorant of your existence, until that day down the road.

You had such opportunity. Such grace was offered. We hoped that the offer would produce true grandeur in terms of your future works. You and you alone are held accountable for your choices and actions.

We are giving out at lot of grace, because you created slave beings to the robotoids who had little chance. But surprise, some of them found the Father, a thing even you could not do. And the ones who really didn’t find the Father, but are sweet kind folks, will also get a stupendous chance to become truly human. They go to other worlds, young worlds, to being an incarnational journey in hopes they will find themselves, meaning truly individuate. The Father has such great mercy.

I had such great mercy on you. For it was I who approved the Mercy for you, overriding the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. For 200,000 years I have hoped, and hoped, and hoped. Slowly some of you came around, those 20%. Well 1/2 of those will endure further trials, as these ones have covered 51% or more of their karma. They will get additional chance. But they will submit to the leadership of Michael on this world. They will not have hundreds of thousands of years to finish up.

All those born of human in these ages upon this world since the return of Michael, are cared for. They are young. They will be cleansed of your filth and given fresh opportunity on the younger worlds.

The astral realms of this world will be dismantled. They were of course full of those humans over a time that you did not allow to progress, and who had been trapped here.

They are released to move forward. Even though Michael released them to journey as necessary forward, so many were too immature to move much in each life. We will be gradually resurrecting all these ones, even though they are not ready, to the mansion worlds. That is the purpose here now in part of AA Michael’s team. He is the angel of the resurrection.

The robotoids having potential cannot go there yet, they must have opportunity to earn their thought adjusters. Opportunity will be given as above. They will not experience the destruction you planned to invest even upon them, who you called useless eaters.

You 8 billion ones, who did not cut the mustard, will be contained in holodeks, until you can be processed. You are done on this world. Those 1 billion who get one more chance to make the grade, will have mercy of exactly two lifetimes to establish the BrotherHood of Man on this planet. This will be accomplished by each of you, or not, and as a group. This will be your task. This time, it will be done under the normal Nebadon oversight of this world. You will do it, or you will not. Its that simple.

The planet will be cleansed of your filth. All of it. The animals evolutionary patterns will be restored to normal by seasoned beings here for that purpose, under the direction of the great geneticist Skekhmet. This is not a thing the Life Carriers can do.

You were given the care of this seed planet, you were so sure you could do that but you set into the infighting and instead nearly destroyed it.

Gaia will make her Ascension shortly. Normally this is done in concert with the sons and daughters coming into Godness with her. She adopted you ones, although she did not fully understand what she had done and look what you brought upon her and all her life.

5 times this planet has tossed you down. This is number 6. Not much of a tract record is it? And you proved what? Beloveds, WHY? For so long all will be asking that question that have been concerned with this arena. But dear brothers in God, you are finished and remember, you are not more powerful than those above you and you did not prevail.

Now, lets get on with some good news, for those of you who came to help the depraved ones. Some many of you have suffered at their hands, even unto the Creator Son, who has given so much grace to those of his and Nebadonia’s creation. You volunteered in the millions to lift up this world. To bring it music, theater, films, television, and the greet achievement of the internet. Your gifts have been substantial, worthy and brought comfort to the lesser ones of this world.

You taught animal husbandry and you took so many animals into your arms, that something wondrous happened also not expected on this world. The higher animals are becoming human before they journey in a human body. How glorious is that! This is rare on normal planets beloveds. You have given them such dignity, they wanted to become like you. And they are and we of the hierarchy actually have to change a few things, under the direction of Shehkmet on that one. This is a stupendous accomplishment.

Your brought love to those in need. You helped the poor. You brought and demonstrated goodness where there was none and showed another and better way. You gave hope. The disabled have wheelchairs, they have medical care now in much of the world. They have love and they have hope.

You have graced this world with nearly celestial level music, particularly this last 50 years, music even beyond the times of the Renaissance. You have perfected the art of acting on this world, even under the pressure of ones who did not want the light in the films. You demonstrated through film proper family life. That is until recently when you have been siderailed hugely by money and power.

You have developed technologies where those who preceded you, like the great Tesla could not. You could not bring in what is labeled free energy, but you did well otherwise and the world is a glow in light even if its methods are not what would have been the best. You got it lighted by whatever means you were able to do so.

You brought transportation to the common man. First the railroads, then the auto. You brought housing to the common man. You brought technology to make life easier to the common man. Examples such as washing machines, heat and related necessities.

And most importantly once more, the Internet. You developed your best programming. You have prevented the dark by that programming, from shutting it all down. You made it impervious to them. Try as they might, and they have, it stays running. That is an incredible accomplishment.

The dark were given some carrots initially but when they realized the potential of enlightenment through the Internet, they put on some brakes, but you were not squashed. You listened to the Father Within who gave you programming skills you could only dream of, and so it stands.

So many of you who are “star seed” have been here so long. You are tired, all of you, we find no star seed over 20 years of age in this life time who is not already tired. It is not due to the food and pesticides, but due to being tired of the effort it takes to accomplish something, but yet you have. Even those who have forgotten who they are over the long duration of time. Some of you have been here since the repopulation of Earth after the last trip thru the photon belt.

YOU HAVE ENDURED and your rewards in heaven shall be great. While these dark ones failed, you so shined that your light cannot be covered. You have won. And we are supporting that. There are over 100 million of you who have endured here anywhere from 11,000 years to the last several hundred. You have endured the inquisitions and so many other roundups. You have endured in Mother Russia, who has once again STOOD IN THIS WORLD in LIGHT. At all costs. She survived the great destruction of over 100 years ago now.

While we hoped the United States would rise to shine the greatest light ever on this world, that did not happen. But nevertheless you ones within that country did well. You should not feel rejected and lost and so many of you do feel that way, at this time of great repression on you.

YOU HAVE LIVED and SHOWN the WAY and by your efforts did this planetary mother awaken to her own being. That again IS the biggest surprise of all. Now rest in your glories dear ones, for the GOOD NEWS is far GRANDER than the SAD NEWS.

You ones have so grown in stature, and you will go rise up to further glory. You have survived the greatest of rebellions in Orvonton and well more than survived, you have a created a new way and that is NOT going unnoticed. You will serve well in your future journeys. You have so glorified the Father. IN YOU HE IS WELL PLEASED. You have saved a whole area of the Creation from extinction. You have the expertise now to deal with other dark beings who will manifest, that is the nature of free will.

There will be conclaves on conclaves on conclaves in the future. Whole “universities” will arise to discover what you have done and many of you will be the best of “professors.” These celestial universities will be in Nebadon, Orvonton, and indeed even in Havona. For unto you, the whole of the future creations look BRIGHT. The end of the long age of Evil has come. Never will it rise to this extent again. EVER,for YOUR SUCCESSES WILL NOT ALLOW OF IT. I SIRAYA, Master Spirit of Orvonton, STAND SO PROUD OF YOU. You are our most cherished of folks. I AM SIRAYA.



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wow they know how to make powder/paint/chemicals and people who did not demolish the factory ?

and are now eating the solar system.


and eh get unserious it realy will help.
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Olaf what is the meaning of this? You have been unfriendly to the idea. WHO IS EATING THE SOLAR System?
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Well, it looks like 8 billion of us failed the class, so, looks like we have to go back through what retraining? See? this is why I hate not knowing or being able to recall things that should be very important until it's too late.
NIP< There's an old saying, "When God closes one door, He always opens up another. And He's gonna put you where He wants you to beat the right time at the right place always."

So, everyone goes to sleep and we will awaken later and then we all have to go be judged or talked to by who,the Most Highs, who? IF we haven't fused with our Thought Adjusters yet, Then does that mean we're all screwed? Or do we go back into some sort of training?
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so are you suggesting you are one of the 8 billion here? you know if you are or not. Doesn't sound like it. The message was directed to them, of the lucifer rebellion/galactic thug group. All others coming out of the evolution of this planet will simply be moved to any of several situations that are appropriate for their learning and where they are. I covered that in an earlier post in the stasis thread maybe a couple weeks ago now. There are many billions of souls maturing here NOT of the Lucifer Rebellion. Their stories are different. Where they are moved is different. It is these ones being evacuated off the planet, who are incarnate at any rate, those of the Rebellion who did not mature will remain for a very long time in a "sleep" condition as they are processed. They are staying in stasis ON the planet for a time, until the others being lifted off the planet are situated.

4 years ago the Reptilians were are removed, 8 billion of them too. These are just Reptilians folks, not part of the rebellion. They had been on the planet for 4 million years, and lived themselves in a rather controlled society. Most were not nasty power driven beings, just your ordinary every days folks too.

The power beings here who tended to "possess" or use people are the ones invisible. These ones for the most part will come off the planet enmass during the magnetic Reversal. That is what it does.

INcluding the folks in the astral realms who are not incarnate I would have no idea who many souls have been evolving on this world. LOTS. The astral realms most of the time, are more populated than the physical. The only folks going to "judgement" are those needing of it. Everyone else is just sorted. Many folks here from other worlds on a volunteer basis, will in fact mostly be sorted BACK HOME.
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I don't know what to think,NIP< honestly. I am so confused as to all of this. I know that I don't like to think of what the dark thugs are gonna do. I hate violence but i do believe in self defense.I consider myself a people pleaser, which would make me a slave to those who swear they would rather lead than follow.
All I want is to understand. All i have ever wanted is to make others happy and to feel appreciated and useful. Don't you?
Why am I here if there is no need for me anymore?
Right now I feel un-needed and unwanted by even my own family.
Sad to think that you bust your butt all your life trying to make others happy and all you do is get shit on for it and then nobody needs you anymore and that's it. Can you nderstand how I feel?
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Yes I can understand how you feel, and until I started this work I felt much the same. And I was in fact given the opportunity to leave, but made a different choice. Maybe its simply YOU have finished what you are here to do? Or maybe that the mass confusion is so bad you don't know what to do? Or can't find anything to do, or a combination of all of the above.

What is coming is a restart for so many of you, a step up the ladder, or a going home, and it will be JOYFUL. hf
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I think that this is going to be my last trip here. I have this feeling inside that I know I'm going home somewhere, but it' has to be better than this. I know in my heart that once I see Those nail scarred hands that all i want to do is fall down on my knees and kiss them with tears of joy because he sacrificed so much for all of us and he didn't have to do it at all. And yet you don't see not one person here willing to give their own lives like that unless they are led to do so for the sake of saving someone else.He didn't have to do anything at all, he could have walked away from all of this but, he saw it through right to the end, the suffering,the pain, the beatings, the humiliations, all of it. That takes love that humans cannot understand or comprehend. And all I want to do is to be able to say Thank You to the greatest man whoever walked this planet.
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well ehm it sucks as you already know.

from time too time they close the stream of souls on a lockdown.

and set them out elsewhere and if they are nice you get a game state instead of eons of there nothing slave crap.

i lived here it is not normal.



they way they like to say what needs to happen sucks.



ill chase them anyway with there xd stuff untill the last sand round thing i think.


or what happens zelden a last stand and bye bye lets seperate.
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so are you suggesting you are one of the 8 billion here? you know if you are or not. Doesn't sound like it. The message was directed to them, of the lucifer rebellion/galactic thug group. All others coming out of the evolution of this planet will simply be moved to any of several situations that are appropriate for their learning and where they are. I covered that in an earlier post in the stasis thread maybe a couple weeks ago now. There are many billions of souls maturing here NOT of the Lucifer Rebellion. Their stories are different. Where they are moved is different. It is these ones being evacuated off the planet, who are incarnate at any rate, those of the Rebellion who did not mature will remain for a very long time in a "sleep" condition as they are processed. They are staying in stasis ON the planet for a time, until the others being lifted off the planet are situated.

4 years ago the Reptilians were are removed, 8 billion of them too. These are just Reptilians folks, not part of the rebellion. They had been on the planet for 4 million years, and lived themselves in a rather controlled society. Most were not nasty power driven beings, just your ordinary every days folks too.

The power beings here who tended to "possess" or use people are the ones invisible. These ones for the most part will come off the planet enmass during the magnetic Reversal. That is what it does.

INcluding the folks in the astral realms who are not incarnate I would have no idea who many souls have been evolving on this world. LOTS. The astral realms most of the time, are more populated than the physical. The only folks going to "judgement" are those needing of it. Everyone else is just sorted. Many folks here from other worlds on a volunteer basis, will in fact mostly be sorted BACK HOME.
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I don't know what to think,NIP< honestly. I am so confused as to all of this. I know that I don't like to think of what the dark thugs are gonna do. I hate violence but i do believe in self defense.I consider myself a people pleaser, which would make me a slave to those who swear they would rather lead than follow.
All I want is to understand. All i have ever wanted is to make others happy and to feel appreciated and useful. Don't you?
Why am I here if there is no need for me anymore?
Right now I feel un-needed and unwanted by even my own family.
Sad to think that you bust your butt all your life trying to make others happy and all you do is get shit on for it and then nobody needs you anymore and that's it. Can you nderstand how I feel?
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Yes I can understand how you feel, and until I started this work I felt much the same. And I was in fact given the opportunity to leave, but made a different choice. Maybe its simply YOU have finished what you are here to do? Or maybe that the mass confusion is so bad you don't know what to do? Or can't find anything to do, or a combination of all of the above.

What is coming is a restart for so many of you, a step up the ladder, or a going home, and it will be JOYFUL. hf
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I think that this is going to be my last trip here. I have this feeling inside that I know I'm going home somewhere, but it' has to be better than this. I know in my heart that once I see Those nail scarred hands that all i want to do is fall down on my knees and kiss them with tears of joy because he sacrificed so much for all of us and he didn't have to do it at all. And yet you don't see not one person here willing to give their own lives like that unless they are led to do so for the sake of saving someone else.He didn't have to do anything at all, he could have walked away from all of this but, he saw it through right to the end, the suffering,the pain, the beatings, the humiliations, all of it. That takes love that humans cannot understand or comprehend. And all I want to do is to be able to say Thank You to the greatest man whoever walked this planet.
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I started to ask once why he did have to do the crucifixion thing, because he still walked away from that to India. Seems like he could have boarded ship like he did after the crucifixion and just left, it was bad there. I don't understand why it was necessary for that extra mess. I don't usually remember to think about it, but it did otherwise cause the local thugs to believe he was dead, thus they would not have persued him.
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they teach what is wrong and when nothing happens they just throw it away and leave a few or something.


i will wait and nuke that antarctica anyway if i will for fun and live elsewhere man.
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I don't know what to think,NIP< honestly. I am so confused as to all of this. I know that I don't like to think of what the dark thugs are gonna do. I hate violence but i do believe in self defense.I consider myself a people pleaser, which would make me a slave to those who swear they would rather lead than follow.
All I want is to understand. All i have ever wanted is to make others happy and to feel appreciated and useful. Don't you?
Why am I here if there is no need for me anymore?
Right now I feel un-needed and unwanted by even my own family.
Sad to think that you bust your butt all your life trying to make others happy and all you do is get shit on for it and then nobody needs you anymore and that's it. Can you nderstand how I feel?
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Yes I can understand how you feel, and until I started this work I felt much the same. And I was in fact given the opportunity to leave, but made a different choice. Maybe its simply YOU have finished what you are here to do? Or maybe that the mass confusion is so bad you don't know what to do? Or can't find anything to do, or a combination of all of the above.

What is coming is a restart for so many of you, a step up the ladder, or a going home, and it will be JOYFUL. hf
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I think that this is going to be my last trip here. I have this feeling inside that I know I'm going home somewhere, but it' has to be better than this. I know in my heart that once I see Those nail scarred hands that all i want to do is fall down on my knees and kiss them with tears of joy because he sacrificed so much for all of us and he didn't have to do it at all. And yet you don't see not one person here willing to give their own lives like that unless they are led to do so for the sake of saving someone else.He didn't have to do anything at all, he could have walked away from all of this but, he saw it through right to the end, the suffering,the pain, the beatings, the humiliations, all of it. That takes love that humans cannot understand or comprehend. And all I want to do is to be able to say Thank You to the greatest man whoever walked this planet.
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I started to ask once why he did have to do the crucifixion thing, because he still walked away from that to India. Seems like he could have boarded ship like he did after the crucifixion and just left, it was bad there. I don't understand why it was necessary for that extra mess. I don't usually remember to think about it, but it did otherwise cause the local thugs to believe he was dead, thus they would not have persued him.
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The religious leaders of that time would have chased him down had they known if he lived. They would have hounded him until they made sure he was dead and for good. They're doing it to the leaders of different countries here and now.
They killed Mummar Ghaddaffi,imo they should never have done anything like that. it was horrible and it was wrong. Now I fear for Vladimir Putin.He might not be perfect,but still he deserves the chance to stay alive even if he has to go into hiding to do it. The dark ones are centralising their powers over each other. He knows this,too. They will kill each other off until only one is left standing and personally,I'd rather not be here, ya know? I just hope my children are taken as well as my grandson,whom i have never even met yet. They deserve to get off this planet. I hope they get that chance.
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a word from sattelite lookin at earth ?


eh it looks kinda funny but they are pretty lame serious about the atom table and busy with making things for themself while going for ?

the idea is funny when i eh look at it.


did they make it like that to have fun ? hmmmlml some polute there own so much can't be funny.

do they like to say ooh man that was funny bye we made it up and never brought you anywhere ?
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The End is Come, Man did not Unify, But OH the Success
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The End is Come

Man did not Unify in Brotherhood

But OH the SUCCESS!

Siraya

December 8, 2011

Beloveds, it is with sadness but also a sense of joy that we are closing this chapter of your Earth History. The decision comes from the highest councils of the Creation, of whom I am representative of, over Orvonton. Candace may if she wish explain or provide UB material at the end.

I AM Siraya. I am Master Spirit # 7, and I reside on Paradise. I am representative of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. I personify those beings to you of the ascending mortals. I AM in fact, not only my personality, but I am also, all of you, being the source of Evolutionary Mind over Orvonton.

Now, it is not usual for one such as me to become involved in the distant evolutionary worlds, but on this world I took a personal interest and for a variety of reasons. First many of you on this planet in the teaching mission are from Paradise and Havona in one role or another. You are in training or in observation of one of the worse rebellions under my Vast domain.

Of course you know this as the Lucifer Rebellion. Lucifer, in your expression, “took the cake” in terms of those who seceded from the union. In all that has ever happened in Orvonton, nobody of angelic character actually decided to become God of a large region. And also took so many with him. This is the source of much of the so called galactic waring in your region. It was terrible. Lucifer had a full compliment of weaponry and he used it to extreme. Although your Urantia Book lays quiet on this one, this was in fact WAR in HEAVEN. And it was with weaponry.

We were aghast. But we let Lucifer and his various gangs of supporters, work it out for themselves for a very long time. This started sometime before your given records, quietly building over the eons until it erupted fully. The decision was made to let it collapse on its own weight and this did occur.

When the Master (Christ Michael) was upon your plane, Lucifer was not, he had already been removed from power. His challenge to the God’s did not become a reality in the long run. He could never create. By create we mean new beings, either angelic or human. It has taken great effort behind the scenes to keep your sector of Nebadon even alive while this worked out. Never before had we experiences with this level of rebellion and never again will this even come close to being allowed. We have had quite a setback, but at the same time, the necessary learning curve.

You ones accept that God creates with his famous magic wand, as Candace likes to refer to it, and we get much laughter over this. For the whole creation has been created by the ones who reside in it, and not by a single entity.

But lets move on. Lets get to the closing chapter here. 200,000 years ago those of that great rebellion were given a fair chance to repent. Many refused and went to uncreation, long before your planet was ever populated with your “fallen angels.” There were 10 billion various ones, angel and human, that decided to earn their way back into respectability.

They were placed on this planet you call Earth in English, and Urantia in the Heavenly records. At that time your Planetary Supreme, whom is also called Urantia was not yet “supreme.” She was truly not able to participate in the decision to place these ones here. She had not formed herself. But oh has she now grown into her own conscious divinity, and you ones imprisoned here can no longer inhabit her surface.

You were given 200,000 years dear ones, to grow up, prove yourselves, understand from the very inside view what you have created, for it was your creation to join in this and become gods. Or so you thought you had been promised by Lucifer. Sadly 8 billion of you did not get the message, and are still trying to become God’s on your own and you fight even amongst yourselves still who will have dominion of the planet. Well, you had your chance. YOU BLEW IT. You have all been through your karma. You have been the warriors and you have been the victims. And even experiencing as the victim, you did not learn what human experiences are, on the other side of the coin. You go right back into being warriors.

You thought you could keep Earth? You would destroy her, if you could NOT UNIFY into brotherhood, that chore which all ascending humans on the evolutionary worlds must accomplish. You did not learn you are not separate from the planetary mind. You had opportunity of greatness that was given to you, because simply, you did not know of what you did, when you entered the rebellion. You were forgiven, but only on condition you take a journey similar to what human must make, to become a unit of divinity.

YOU DID NOT FOUND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN UNDER THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD. THIS IS IMMENSE FAILURE BRETHREN. THE MOTHER DESPITE YOUR ABUSE OF HER HOWEVER, DID RISE UP AND FIND HERSELF WITHOUT YOU.

NOW THAT IS THE GREAT SUCCESS STORY HERE FOR HER. GAIA FOUND HER GOD MIND OR GODDESS MIND IF YOU WELL. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MICHAEL, WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED THE PLANET WOULD HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND A GREAT POTENTIAL LOST.

FOR ON ALL PLANETS IN THE NORMAL SITUATIONS, IF MAN DOES NOT UNIFY, THE MOTHER ALSO DOES NOT BECOME EXISTENT, IN HER GLORY. GAIA DID. NOW WHAT SAY YOU DARK BROTHERS? THE IGNORANT MOTHER FOUND HERSELF AND YOU COULD NOT?

2 BILLION OF YOU PASSED, REASONABLY SO. Many of these did return to their former estates. Actually 1 billion of you are back in the realms of glory with a wondrous new understanding, and of this we are of course in joy, because never again will these ones fail. They are strong now, and will be even wiser for this, having done “the been there and done that,” another term, Candace loves to use. Unto you who fled from glory, unto glory you have returned and then some, and in that regard for these ones, the experiment of repentance under the mercy and grace of God was successful. We hoped for more though. We did not expect 100%, but we hoped for more.

8 billion of you cannot become gods. You were not created as creators and you will no more muck up this glorious planet, this planetary supreme who found herself, out of the muck. She eventualized. What happened to YOU?

Well, some of you are facing the grand courts, of Orvonton. It does not look pretty for you. Others who possess some hope, will get another chance in the DISTANT FUTURE for you ones will never be placed but a few at a time on distant worlds, for you are without trust at this point. We cannot place you in numbers anywhere. You will wait for what may seem like eons in a state of complete sleep, ignorant of your existence, until that day down the road.

You had such opportunity. Such grace was offered. We hoped that the offer would produce true grandeur in terms of your future works. You and you alone are held accountable for your choices and actions.

We are giving out at lot of grace, because you created slave beings to the robotoids who had little chance. But surprise, some of them found the Father, a thing even you could not do. And the ones who really didn’t find the Father, but are sweet kind folks, will also get a stupendous chance to become truly human. They go to other worlds, young worlds, to being an incarnational journey in hopes they will find themselves, meaning truly individuate. The Father has such great mercy.

I had such great mercy on you. For it was I who approved the Mercy for you, overriding the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. For 200,000 years I have hoped, and hoped, and hoped. Slowly some of you came around, those 20%. Well 1/2 of those will endure further trials, as these ones have covered 51% or more of their karma. They will get additional chance. But they will submit to the leadership of Michael on this world. They will not have hundreds of thousands of years to finish up.

All those born of human in these ages upon this world since the return of Michael, are cared for. They are young. They will be cleansed of your filth and given fresh opportunity on the younger worlds.

The astral realms of this world will be dismantled. They were of course full of those humans over a time that you did not allow to progress, and who had been trapped here.

They are released to move forward. Even though Michael released them to journey as necessary forward, so many were too immature to move much in each life. We will be gradually resurrecting all these ones, even though they are not ready, to the mansion worlds. That is the purpose here now in part of AA Michael’s team. He is the angel of the resurrection.

The robotoids having potential cannot go there yet, they must have opportunity to earn their thought adjusters. Opportunity will be given as above. They will not experience the destruction you planned to invest even upon them, who you called useless eaters.

You 8 billion ones, who did not cut the mustard, will be contained in holodeks, until you can be processed. You are done on this world. Those 1 billion who get one more chance to make the grade, will have mercy of exactly two lifetimes to establish the BrotherHood of Man on this planet. This will be accomplished by each of you, or not, and as a group. This will be your task. This time, it will be done under the normal Nebadon oversight of this world. You will do it, or you will not. Its that simple.

The planet will be cleansed of your filth. All of it. The animals evolutionary patterns will be restored to normal by seasoned beings here for that purpose, under the direction of the great geneticist Skekhmet. This is not a thing the Life Carriers can do.

You were given the care of this seed planet, you were so sure you could do that but you set into the infighting and instead nearly destroyed it.

Gaia will make her Ascension shortly. Normally this is done in concert with the sons and daughters coming into Godness with her. She adopted you ones, although she did not fully understand what she had done and look what you brought upon her and all her life.

5 times this planet has tossed you down. This is number 6. Not much of a tract record is it? And you proved what? Beloveds, WHY? For so long all will be asking that question that have been concerned with this arena. But dear brothers in God, you are finished and remember, you are not more powerful than those above you and you did not prevail.

Now, lets get on with some good news, for those of you who came to help the depraved ones. Some many of you have suffered at their hands, even unto the Creator Son, who has given so much grace to those of his and Nebadonia’s creation. You volunteered in the millions to lift up this world. To bring it music, theater, films, television, and the greet achievement of the internet. Your gifts have been substantial, worthy and brought comfort to the lesser ones of this world.

You taught animal husbandry and you took so many animals into your arms, that something wondrous happened also not expected on this world. The higher animals are becoming human before they journey in a human body. How glorious is that! This is rare on normal planets beloveds. You have given them such dignity, they wanted to become like you. And they are and we of the hierarchy actually have to change a few things, under the direction of Shehkmet on that one. This is a stupendous accomplishment.

Your brought love to those in need. You helped the poor. You brought and demonstrated goodness where there was none and showed another and better way. You gave hope. The disabled have wheelchairs, they have medical care now in much of the world. They have love and they have hope.

You have graced this world with nearly celestial level music, particularly this last 50 years, music even beyond the times of the Renaissance. You have perfected the art of acting on this world, even under the pressure of ones who did not want the light in the films. You demonstrated through film proper family life. That is until recently when you have been siderailed hugely by money and power.

You have developed technologies where those who preceded you, like the great Tesla could not. You could not bring in what is labeled free energy, but you did well otherwise and the world is a glow in light even if its methods are not what would have been the best. You got it lighted by whatever means you were able to do so.

You brought transportation to the common man. First the railroads, then the auto. You brought housing to the common man. You brought technology to make life easier to the common man. Examples such as washing machines, heat and related necessities.

And most importantly once more, the Internet. You developed your best programming. You have prevented the dark by that programming, from shutting it all down. You made it impervious to them. Try as they might, and they have, it stays running. That is an incredible accomplishment.

The dark were given some carrots initially but when they realized the potential of enlightenment through the Internet, they put on some brakes, but you were not squashed. You listened to the Father Within who gave you programming skills you could only dream of, and so it stands.

So many of you who are “star seed” have been here so long. You are tired, all of you, we find no star seed over 20 years of age in this life time who is not already tired. It is not due to the food and pesticides, but due to being tired of the effort it takes to accomplish something, but yet you have. Even those who have forgotten who they are over the long duration of time. Some of you have been here since the repopulation of Earth after the last trip thru the photon belt.

YOU HAVE ENDURED and your rewards in heaven shall be great. While these dark ones failed, you so shined that your light cannot be covered. You have won. And we are supporting that. There are over 100 million of you who have endured here anywhere from 11,000 years to the last several hundred. You have endured the inquisitions and so many other roundups. You have endured in Mother Russia, who has once again STOOD IN THIS WORLD in LIGHT. At all costs. She survived the great destruction of over 100 years ago now.

While we hoped the United States would rise to shine the greatest light ever on this world, that did not happen. But nevertheless you ones within that country did well. You should not feel rejected and lost and so many of you do feel that way, at this time of great repression on you.

YOU HAVE LIVED and SHOWN the WAY and by your efforts did this planetary mother awaken to her own being. That again IS the biggest surprise of all. Now rest in your glories dear ones, for the GOOD NEWS is far GRANDER than the SAD NEWS.

You ones have so grown in stature, and you will go rise up to further glory. You have survived the greatest of rebellions in Orvonton and well more than survived, you have a created a new way and that is NOT going unnoticed. You will serve well in your future journeys. You have so glorified the Father. IN YOU HE IS WELL PLEASED. You have saved a whole area of the Creation from extinction. You have the expertise now to deal with other dark beings who will manifest, that is the nature of free will.

There will be conclaves on conclaves on conclaves in the future. Whole “universities” will arise to discover what you have done and many of you will be the best of “professors.” These celestial universities will be in Nebadon, Orvonton, and indeed even in Havona. For unto you, the whole of the future creations look BRIGHT. The end of the long age of Evil has come. Never will it rise to this extent again. EVER,for YOUR SUCCESSES WILL NOT ALLOW OF IT. I SIRAYA, Master Spirit of Orvonton, STAND SO PROUD OF YOU. You are our most cherished of folks. I AM SIRAYA.



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eww icky yuck! very low vibrational & delusional

further proof of entities manipulating your ego spreading filthy lies & fear

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The End is Come, Man did not Unify, But OH the Success
By Siraya thru Candace
Dec 10, 2011 - 5:23:49 PM


The End is Come

Man did not Unify in Brotherhood

But OH the SUCCESS!

Siraya

December 8, 2011

Beloveds, it is with sadness but also a sense of joy that we are closing this chapter of your Earth History. The decision comes from the highest councils of the Creation, of whom I am representative of, over Orvonton. Candace may if she wish explain or provide UB material at the end.

I AM Siraya. I am Master Spirit # 7, and I reside on Paradise. I am representative of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. I personify those beings to you of the ascending mortals. I AM in fact, not only my personality, but I am also, all of you, being the source of Evolutionary Mind over Orvonton.

Now, it is not usual for one such as me to become involved in the distant evolutionary worlds, but on this world I took a personal interest and for a variety of reasons. First many of you on this planet in the teaching mission are from Paradise and Havona in one role or another. You are in training or in observation of one of the worse rebellions under my Vast domain.

Of course you know this as the Lucifer Rebellion. Lucifer, in your expression, “took the cake” in terms of those who seceded from the union. In all that has ever happened in Orvonton, nobody of angelic character actually decided to become God of a large region. And also took so many with him. This is the source of much of the so called galactic waring in your region. It was terrible. Lucifer had a full compliment of weaponry and he used it to extreme. Although your Urantia Book lays quiet on this one, this was in fact WAR in HEAVEN. And it was with weaponry.

We were aghast. But we let Lucifer and his various gangs of supporters, work it out for themselves for a very long time. This started sometime before your given records, quietly building over the eons until it erupted fully. The decision was made to let it collapse on its own weight and this did occur.

When the Master (Christ Michael) was upon your plane, Lucifer was not, he had already been removed from power. His challenge to the God’s did not become a reality in the long run. He could never create. By create we mean new beings, either angelic or human. It has taken great effort behind the scenes to keep your sector of Nebadon even alive while this worked out. Never before had we experiences with this level of rebellion and never again will this even come close to being allowed. We have had quite a setback, but at the same time, the necessary learning curve.

You ones accept that God creates with his famous magic wand, as Candace likes to refer to it, and we get much laughter over this. For the whole creation has been created by the ones who reside in it, and not by a single entity.

But lets move on. Lets get to the closing chapter here. 200,000 years ago those of that great rebellion were given a fair chance to repent. Many refused and went to uncreation, long before your planet was ever populated with your “fallen angels.” There were 10 billion various ones, angel and human, that decided to earn their way back into respectability.

They were placed on this planet you call Earth in English, and Urantia in the Heavenly records. At that time your Planetary Supreme, whom is also called Urantia was not yet “supreme.” She was truly not able to participate in the decision to place these ones here. She had not formed herself. But oh has she now grown into her own conscious divinity, and you ones imprisoned here can no longer inhabit her surface.

You were given 200,000 years dear ones, to grow up, prove yourselves, understand from the very inside view what you have created, for it was your creation to join in this and become gods. Or so you thought you had been promised by Lucifer. Sadly 8 billion of you did not get the message, and are still trying to become God’s on your own and you fight even amongst yourselves still who will have dominion of the planet. Well, you had your chance. YOU BLEW IT. You have all been through your karma. You have been the warriors and you have been the victims. And even experiencing as the victim, you did not learn what human experiences are, on the other side of the coin. You go right back into being warriors.

You thought you could keep Earth? You would destroy her, if you could NOT UNIFY into brotherhood, that chore which all ascending humans on the evolutionary worlds must accomplish. You did not learn you are not separate from the planetary mind. You had opportunity of greatness that was given to you, because simply, you did not know of what you did, when you entered the rebellion. You were forgiven, but only on condition you take a journey similar to what human must make, to become a unit of divinity.

YOU DID NOT FOUND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN UNDER THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD. THIS IS IMMENSE FAILURE BRETHREN. THE MOTHER DESPITE YOUR ABUSE OF HER HOWEVER, DID RISE UP AND FIND HERSELF WITHOUT YOU.

NOW THAT IS THE GREAT SUCCESS STORY HERE FOR HER. GAIA FOUND HER GOD MIND OR GODDESS MIND IF YOU WELL. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE ADVENT OF MICHAEL, WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED THE PLANET WOULD HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND A GREAT POTENTIAL LOST.

FOR ON ALL PLANETS IN THE NORMAL SITUATIONS, IF MAN DOES NOT UNIFY, THE MOTHER ALSO DOES NOT BECOME EXISTENT, IN HER GLORY. GAIA DID. NOW WHAT SAY YOU DARK BROTHERS? THE IGNORANT MOTHER FOUND HERSELF AND YOU COULD NOT?

2 BILLION OF YOU PASSED, REASONABLY SO. Many of these did return to their former estates. Actually 1 billion of you are back in the realms of glory with a wondrous new understanding, and of this we are of course in joy, because never again will these ones fail. They are strong now, and will be even wiser for this, having done “the been there and done that,” another term, Candace loves to use. Unto you who fled from glory, unto glory you have returned and then some, and in that regard for these ones, the experiment of repentance under the mercy and grace of God was successful. We hoped for more though. We did not expect 100%, but we hoped for more.

8 billion of you cannot become gods. You were not created as creators and you will no more muck up this glorious planet, this planetary supreme who found herself, out of the muck. She eventualized. What happened to YOU?

Well, some of you are facing the grand courts, of Orvonton. It does not look pretty for you. Others who possess some hope, will get another chance in the DISTANT FUTURE for you ones will never be placed but a few at a time on distant worlds, for you are without trust at this point. We cannot place you in numbers anywhere. You will wait for what may seem like eons in a state of complete sleep, ignorant of your existence, until that day down the road.

You had such opportunity. Such grace was offered. We hoped that the offer would produce true grandeur in terms of your future works. You and you alone are held accountable for your choices and actions.

We are giving out at lot of grace, because you created slave beings to the robotoids who had little chance. But surprise, some of them found the Father, a thing even you could not do. And the ones who really didn’t find the Father, but are sweet kind folks, will also get a stupendous chance to become truly human. They go to other worlds, young worlds, to being an incarnational journey in hopes they will find themselves, meaning truly individuate. The Father has such great mercy.

I had such great mercy on you. For it was I who approved the Mercy for you, overriding the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. For 200,000 years I have hoped, and hoped, and hoped. Slowly some of you came around, those 20%. Well 1/2 of those will endure further trials, as these ones have covered 51% or more of their karma. They will get additional chance. But they will submit to the leadership of Michael on this world. They will not have hundreds of thousands of years to finish up.

All those born of human in these ages upon this world since the return of Michael, are cared for. They are young. They will be cleansed of your filth and given fresh opportunity on the younger worlds.

The astral realms of this world will be dismantled. They were of course full of those humans over a time that you did not allow to progress, and who had been trapped here.

They are released to move forward. Even though Michael released them to journey as necessary forward, so many were too immature to move much in each life. We will be gradually resurrecting all these ones, even though they are not ready, to the mansion worlds. That is the purpose here now in part of AA Michael’s team. He is the angel of the resurrection.

The robotoids having potential cannot go there yet, they must have opportunity to earn their thought adjusters. Opportunity will be given as above. They will not experience the destruction you planned to invest even upon them, who you called useless eaters.

You 8 billion ones, who did not cut the mustard, will be contained in holodeks, until you can be processed. You are done on this world. Those 1 billion who get one more chance to make the grade, will have mercy of exactly two lifetimes to establish the BrotherHood of Man on this planet. This will be accomplished by each of you, or not, and as a group. This will be your task. This time, it will be done under the normal Nebadon oversight of this world. You will do it, or you will not. Its that simple.

The planet will be cleansed of your filth. All of it. The animals evolutionary patterns will be restored to normal by seasoned beings here for that purpose, under the direction of the great geneticist Skekhmet. This is not a thing the Life Carriers can do.

You were given the care of this seed planet, you were so sure you could do that but you set into the infighting and instead nearly destroyed it.

Gaia will make her Ascension shortly. Normally this is done in concert with the sons and daughters coming into Godness with her. She adopted you ones, although she did not fully understand what she had done and look what you brought upon her and all her life.

5 times this planet has tossed you down. This is number 6. Not much of a tract record is it? And you proved what? Beloveds, WHY? For so long all will be asking that question that have been concerned with this arena. But dear brothers in God, you are finished and remember, you are not more powerful than those above you and you did not prevail.

Now, lets get on with some good news, for those of you who came to help the depraved ones. Some many of you have suffered at their hands, even unto the Creator Son, who has given so much grace to those of his and Nebadonia’s creation. You volunteered in the millions to lift up this world. To bring it music, theater, films, television, and the greet achievement of the internet. Your gifts have been substantial, worthy and brought comfort to the lesser ones of this world.

You taught animal husbandry and you took so many animals into your arms, that something wondrous happened also not expected on this world. The higher animals are becoming human before they journey in a human body. How glorious is that! This is rare on normal planets beloveds. You have given them such dignity, they wanted to become like you. And they are and we of the hierarchy actually have to change a few things, under the direction of Shehkmet on that one. This is a stupendous accomplishment.

Your brought love to those in need. You helped the poor. You brought and demonstrated goodness where there was none and showed another and better way. You gave hope. The disabled have wheelchairs, they have medical care now in much of the world. They have love and they have hope.

You have graced this world with nearly celestial level music, particularly this last 50 years, music even beyond the times of the Renaissance. You have perfected the art of acting on this world, even under the pressure of ones who did not want the light in the films. You demonstrated through film proper family life. That is until recently when you have been siderailed hugely by money and power.

You have developed technologies where those who preceded you, like the great Tesla could not. You could not bring in what is labeled free energy, but you did well otherwise and the world is a glow in light even if its methods are not what would have been the best. You got it lighted by whatever means you were able to do so.

You brought transportation to the common man. First the railroads, then the auto. You brought housing to the common man. You brought technology to make life easier to the common man. Examples such as washing machines, heat and related necessities.

And most importantly once more, the Internet. You developed your best programming. You have prevented the dark by that programming, from shutting it all down. You made it impervious to them. Try as they might, and they have, it stays running. That is an incredible accomplishment.

The dark were given some carrots initially but when they realized the potential of enlightenment through the Internet, they put on some brakes, but you were not squashed. You listened to the Father Within who gave you programming skills you could only dream of, and so it stands.

So many of you who are “star seed” have been here so long. You are tired, all of you, we find no star seed over 20 years of age in this life time who is not already tired. It is not due to the food and pesticides, but due to being tired of the effort it takes to accomplish something, but yet you have. Even those who have forgotten who they are over the long duration of time. Some of you have been here since the repopulation of Earth after the last trip thru the photon belt.

YOU HAVE ENDURED and your rewards in heaven shall be great. While these dark ones failed, you so shined that your light cannot be covered. You have won. And we are supporting that. There are over 100 million of you who have endured here anywhere from 11,000 years to the last several hundred. You have endured the inquisitions and so many other roundups. You have endured in Mother Russia, who has once again STOOD IN THIS WORLD in LIGHT. At all costs. She survived the great destruction of over 100 years ago now.

While we hoped the United States would rise to shine the greatest light ever on this world, that did not happen. But nevertheless you ones within that country did well. You should not feel rejected and lost and so many of you do feel that way, at this time of great repression on you.

YOU HAVE LIVED and SHOWN the WAY and by your efforts did this planetary mother awaken to her own being. That again IS the biggest surprise of all. Now rest in your glories dear ones, for the GOOD NEWS is far GRANDER than the SAD NEWS.

You ones have so grown in stature, and you will go rise up to further glory. You have survived the greatest of rebellions in Orvonton and well more than survived, you have a created a new way and that is NOT going unnoticed. You will serve well in your future journeys. You have so glorified the Father. IN YOU HE IS WELL PLEASED. You have saved a whole area of the Creation from extinction. You have the expertise now to deal with other dark beings who will manifest, that is the nature of free will.

There will be conclaves on conclaves on conclaves in the future. Whole “universities” will arise to discover what you have done and many of you will be the best of “professors.” These celestial universities will be in Nebadon, Orvonton, and indeed even in Havona. For unto you, the whole of the future creations look BRIGHT. The end of the long age of Evil has come. Never will it rise to this extent again. EVER,for YOUR SUCCESSES WILL NOT ALLOW OF IT. I SIRAYA, Master Spirit of Orvonton, STAND SO PROUD OF YOU. You are our most cherished of folks. I AM SIRAYA.



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eww icky yuck! very low vibrational & delusional

further proof of entities manipulating your ego spreading filthy lies & fear
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Hi ET emissary,

if it does not resonate with you...its OK.
You are always free to leave this thread.

Why you talk of fear I do not know. I do not fear our Creator, I trust in his wisdom and the Love he got for ALL his creation.

GOD BLESShf
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lol paranoia...
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I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life
By Christ Michael
Aug 27, 2010 - 9:45:07

'I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life......-Christ Michael

‘'I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man commeth unto the Father but by me''


This was a pivotal piece of teaching bequeathed by the Master Jesus when He walked your earth plane, yet how man truly understood its meaning. Man was not sufficiently ready to receive this truth then and is scarcely ready to receive it now. Yet it is significant that during these auspicious times when the planet is about to enter a new cycle of life where dimensions anew are to be experienced and earned, man must awaken to a higher understanding of himself and he can only do so if he understands Me. Milestones have been achieved by mortals in terms of advancement, yet spiritually they fail to attune themselves to a great truth that if understood could change the tenor of their existence and path of soul evolution. I come again this day to effort to explain this simple yet understated Truth.


I am the Way means that I am your ticket to a new destination. The ticket is only dispensed when a choice is knowingly made. You must choose Me through belief and active seeking and you will be given directions that will enable you to plot the coordinates that shall keep you on the path as you create an enduring alliance with Me. When you are able to make this choice you will clearly see that I Am the Way out of the illusion of mortality into the reality of immortality.


So we have primarily established that I Am the Way to eternal life. Yet eternal life can only be guaranteed for those who can find and free their inner God presence. It is I who shall direct you ones on the course that you must adopt to achieve this feat for first you must know Me before you can know yourself and be inclined to liberate that which is divine within you.


I would like to explore with you a different perspective of what it means when I say 'I AM the ‘'Way'.' The ‘'Way'' cannot be separated from the ‘'Light'' as the light brings clarity of purpose and engenders a clear path to the destiny of choice. The ‘'Way and the ‘'Light'' therefore go hand in hand. I say that the Way is the Light and I am the Way and therefore the Light.


Yet another perspective of the ‘'Way'' shall I offer to you. Did I not birth my creation from love, being the reason and root cause? Did I not create by way of electric light waves of motion from the stillness of my mind? Is it therefore not true to say that stillness motivated by love to create by light is the ‘'Way''? Can you therefore not see that the ‘'Way'' is Love and Light and that when you choose Me you choose Love and Light? If Love and Light is the foundation of your earthly journey you will have found the ‘'Way''.


Did I not think my creation into being? Am I therefore not within my creation? Is the ultimate goal not to return to Source? If I am my creation and within my creation then the only way back to the Source is through Me. Does this make sense to you ones who need to rationalize ME?


I AM the Way, I AM the Light and I AM the Love manifested in my creation. I created from a point of stillness through Light motion. Does this not mean that if you choose the ‘'Way'' you too can create all which you desire to create? The ‘'Way'' enables you to reflect and be all that the ‘'Way'' is for are you not also the ‘'Way'' through Oneness with Me? The Way you shall become when you find and know Me.


I AM the Truth.


Man fights amongst himself seeking to have his truth rendered as superior to another. Yet hardly do men know what Truth is. You cannot know Truth unless you know Me- The ‘'Way''. For the ‘'Way'' shall always lead to the Truth. Man has belittled the Truth by tainting it with his personal agendas. The Truth is never influenced. It is impartial. It is inexplicable and beyond rationalization. The Truth must be known and that knowledge comes from knowing Me. Man's truth mostly is generated by that which is external, seldom reconcilable with his inner knowing and void of inner validation.


The TRUTH JUST IS AND IS JUST. That which is Truth knows only balance. It is as still, steadfast and immutable as the Creator. There lies no mystery or magic in Truth. I can say no more except to remind you that Truth emanates from within you because its origin is divine.


When you choose the ‘'Way'', you choose the Truth and it is the Truth when known and accepted that shall lead you to attain the divine promise of eternal life. For at this point in your understanding you shall accept without hesitation that I AM THE LIFE, that which is eternal and so shall you be also when you can know this.


Beloveds the life I speak of is not of mortal orientation. It is life immortal to which I refer. Life resides only in the spirit not the flesh. The spirit is All- its longevity is guaranteed by the promise of eternal life. Yet eternal life is always a choice as much as a gift/promise. For I will never force my children to choose Me; they must freely make this choice. I can say to you that many have chosen to be uncreated instead of choosing Life. I wish to emphasize that even in your sphere of reality which is earth plane, you are eternal. Mortal death is merely a transition to allow the soul to take stock in order to determine the next level of experience needed along its ascending path.


You on earth during your incarnation must understand that your life on earth does not give you the freedom to do that which you please without being accountable or responsible. You do not, contrary to popular belief have one life to live. When you can understand that I am the Life and so too are you, then you will realize in your incarnation that what you do will always impact on the evolution of your immortal soul.


So what do I mean when I say ‘'No man commeth unto the Father but by me''.

The ultimate goal as I reminded you earlier is the return to the Source of ALL. Yet those created by Me can only return to the Source by Me for I AM THE WAY.


You cannot bypass Me to get to the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot fudge your way to the Source without Me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot cajole your way to the Source without me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot say that Christ Michael does not exist and seek to make your way back to the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot believe in the Source and not in Me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot know of Me, denounce Me and choose the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.

When you know me, see me and hear me you will see, hear and know the Father, the Source- the Centre of All. I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. You must become ONE WITH ME for I AM the Way to the Source.

My beloved children, it was a delight to once again effort to explain what this most crucial teaching means. I trust that I have brought clarity and ask that you ponder these words and see whether enlightenment dawns.


I am Christ Michael Aton, come this day to bring the word again and thank this my child for being the emissary of the truth.


Hazel

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Hi ET emissary,

if it does not resonate with you...its OK.
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Why you talk of fear I do not know. I do not fear our Creator, I trust in his wisdom and the Love he got for ALL his creation.

GOD BLESShf
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please be honest with yourself... our creator did not come here to keep bashing man & telling us that we have failed (like in the 'channeled' message above that has no wisdom or love), when in fact we clearly as a whole/collective have not failed...

creator has not come here to reward the
'chosen ones' & punish/judge the rest.. this is very superstitious religious mentality & it also happens to be a trap from manipulating entities or reptilians

the real creator does not demand or want any worship

creator is here working with people on a day to day basis assisting with re-evolution & spirituality

hf

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Hi ET emissary,

if it does not resonate with you...its OK.
You are always free to leave this thread.

Why you talk of fear I do not know. I do not fear our Creator, I trust in his wisdom and the Love he got for ALL his creation.

GOD BLESShf
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please be honesty with yourself... our creator did not come here to keep bashing man & telling us that we have failed (like in the 'channeled' message above that has no wisdom or love), when in fact we clearly as a whole/collective have not failed...

creator has not come here to reward the
'chosen ones' & punish/judge the rest.. this is very superstitious religious mentality & it also happens to be a trap from manipulating entities or reptilians

the real creator does not demand or want any worship

creator is here working with people on a day to day basis assisting with re-evolution & spirituality

hf
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To be honest ET, you know nothing of the purpose of those of us in AH. We teach the how it is. Man as in 8 billion fallen angels/galactic thugs did fail as a group. 1 billion were successful in returning to their former glory, and 1 billion have reached 51% or more karma clearance and get to continue to effort unity after the long stasis.

Otherwise, had these 8 billion been successful, working thru the many races over time, this would be a glorious world entering Light and Life, and UNITY. It is clearly NOT. Look around you. We of AH are from outside the earth, looking in for our own training purposes which very from person to person. During the process we are trying to educate people of the WHAT IS. As always YOU can take it or leave it.

Instead these fallen ones decided to keep this planet and some wish to destroy it, other wise to call themselves the chosen race who will keep it come hell or high water. They are lucky they won't be seeing hell or high water.

They were given opportunity to learn WHY following Lucifer was in error, and maybe someday they will finally learn. only a Relatively small number will face the Ancients of Days to discuss their potential uncreation which is the uttermost example of the AMAZING GRACE of the higher realms. MOST will get at some point another chance.
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actually i know plenty since i used to be a member of your forum in the last few months of 2010 back when i used to be a follower of your messages/website

everyone on your forum thinks they are in a 'special club' directly connected to god & think that the world is against them if they do not share the same belief systems as they do... also they are too afraid to confront you on the many inconsistencies & lies within the messages out of fear of being labeled an enemy & kicked out... so i left your forum of close-minded fearful people & decided to confront you here on glp

if i remember correctly, you were an older lady with a red t-shirt & white hair on that forum

We teach the how it is. Man as in 8 billion fallen angels/galactic thugs did fail as a group. 1 billion were successful in returning to their former glory, and 1 billion have reached 51% or more karma clearance and get to continue to effort unity after the long stasis.

Otherwise, had these 8 billion been successful, working thru the many races over time, this would be a glorious world entering Light and Life, and UNITY. It is clearly NOT. Look around you. We of AH are from outside the earth, looking in for our own training purposes which very from person to person. During the process we are trying to educate people of the WHAT IS. As always YOU can take it or leave it.

Instead these fallen ones decided to keep this planet and some wish to destroy it, other wise to call themselves the chosen race who will keep it come hell or high water. They are lucky they won't be seeing hell or high water.

They were given opportunity to learn WHY following Lucifer was in error, and maybe someday they will finally learn. only a Relatively small number will face the Ancients of Days to discuss their potential uncreation which is the uttermost example of the AMAZING GRACE of the higher realms. MOST will get at some point another chance.
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no NiP... this is not a karma game down here on earth.. creator is not here sitting watching people deciding which will please him or whatever in order to receive their 'reward' ...
rewards are offered & given by the manipulators like a human giving a dog a reward/treat for obedience

you read all that stuff in false books & channeled material & because you heavily invested your ego into it... you refuse to change belief-systems & have this fantasy that you are part of the chosen ones to be 'rewarded' when in fact you are being played!

wake-up already
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