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To be honest ET, you know nothing of the purpose of those of us in AH.
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actually i know plenty since i used to be a member of your forum in the last few months of 2010 back when i used to be a follower of your messages/website

everyone on your forum thinks they are in a 'special club' directly connected to god & think that the world is against them if they do not share the same belief systems as they do... also they are too afraid to confront you on the many inconsistencies & lies within the messages out of fear of being labeled an enemy & kicked out... so i left your forum of close-minded fearful people & decided to confront you here on glp

if i remember correctly, you were an older lady with a red t-shirt & white hair on that forum

We teach the how it is. Man as in 8 billion fallen angels/galactic thugs did fail as a group. 1 billion were successful in returning to their former glory, and 1 billion have reached 51% or more karma clearance and get to continue to effort unity after the long stasis.

Otherwise, had these 8 billion been successful, working thru the many races over time, this would be a glorious world entering Light and Life, and UNITY. It is clearly NOT. Look around you. We of AH are from outside the earth, looking in for our own training purposes which very from person to person. During the process we are trying to educate people of the WHAT IS. As always YOU can take it or leave it.

Instead these fallen ones decided to keep this planet and some wish to destroy it, other wise to call themselves the chosen race who will keep it come hell or high water. They are lucky they won't be seeing hell or high water.

They were given opportunity to learn WHY following Lucifer was in error, and maybe someday they will finally learn. only a Relatively small number will face the Ancients of Days to discuss their potential uncreation which is the uttermost example of the AMAZING GRACE of the higher realms. MOST will get at some point another chance.
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no NiP... this is not a karma game down here on earth.. creator is not here sitting watching people deciding which will please him or whatever in order to receive their 'reward' ...
rewards are offered & given by the manipulators like a human giving a dog a reward/treat for obedience

you read all that stuff in false books & channeled material & because you heavily invested your ego into it... you refuse to change belief-systems & have this fantasy that you are part of the chosen ones to be 'rewarded' when in fact you are being played!

wake-up already
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I see then apparently you have been a member of my forum in the past. So why your comment about the OLD Lady I have always been honest. Yes I was wearing a red t shirt who what's your beef? Michael of Nebadon as Creator of Nebadon IS here. I have been on his craft and sat with him personally. I happen to thus know of what I speak. Guess what the first time I met him that way he was wearing red too. You do not walk my shoes any more than I walk yours. My story is as it has happened and you do not describe me as I am.

Hopefully we have removed YOU from my forum though, we took off everybody that had not logged in a year and shortly it will be everyone who has not logged in more recently.

I don't have belief systems ET to change. My purpose is truth. Which false books do I read? Make a list here. Oh and by the way all special interest forums are private clubs, ok. No matter their purpose.
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To be honest ET, you know nothing of the purpose of those of us in AH.
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actually i know plenty since i used to be a member of your forum in the last few months of 2010 back when i used to be a follower of your messages/website

everyone on your forum thinks they are in a 'special club' directly connected to god & think that the world is against them if they do not share the same belief systems as they do... also they are too afraid to confront you on the many inconsistencies & lies within the messages out of fear of being labeled an enemy & kicked out... so i left your forum of close-minded fearful people & decided to confront you here on glp

if i remember correctly, you were an older lady with a red t-shirt & white hair on that forum

We teach the how it is. Man as in 8 billion fallen angels/galactic thugs did fail as a group. 1 billion were successful in returning to their former glory, and 1 billion have reached 51% or more karma clearance and get to continue to effort unity after the long stasis.

Otherwise, had these 8 billion been successful, working thru the many races over time, this would be a glorious world entering Light and Life, and UNITY. It is clearly NOT. Look around you. We of AH are from outside the earth, looking in for our own training purposes which very from person to person. During the process we are trying to educate people of the WHAT IS. As always YOU can take it or leave it.

Instead these fallen ones decided to keep this planet and some wish to destroy it, other wise to call themselves the chosen race who will keep it come hell or high water. They are lucky they won't be seeing hell or high water.

They were given opportunity to learn WHY following Lucifer was in error, and maybe someday they will finally learn. only a Relatively small number will face the Ancients of Days to discuss their potential uncreation which is the uttermost example of the AMAZING GRACE of the higher realms. MOST will get at some point another chance.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


no NiP... this is not a karma game down here on earth.. creator is not here sitting watching people deciding which will please him or whatever in order to receive their 'reward' ...
rewards are offered & given by the manipulators like a human giving a dog a reward/treat for obedience

you read all that stuff in false books & channeled material & because you heavily invested your ego into it... you refuse to change belief-systems & have this fantasy that you are part of the chosen ones to be 'rewarded' when in fact you are being played!

wake-up already
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I see then apparently you have been a member of my forum in the past. So why your comment about the OLD Lady I have always been honest. Yes I was wearing a red t shirt who what's your beef? Michael of Nebadon as Creator of Nebadon IS here. I have been on his craft and sat with him personally. I happen to thus know of what I speak. Guess what the first time I met him that way he was wearing red too. You do not walk my shoes any more than I walk yours. My story is as it has happened and you do not describe me as I am.

Hopefully we have removed YOU from my forum though, we took off everybody that had not logged in a year and shortly it will be everyone who has not logged in more recently.

I don't have belief systems ET to change. My purpose is truth. Which false books do I read? Make a list here. Oh and by the way all special interest forums are private clubs, ok. No matter their purpose.
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false books such as the urantia book, phoenix journals & anything else that mentions this 'archangel michael' or 'christ michael' character in its numerous names/disguises...

because the manipulators have anticipated that many people would not submit to the lies & fears of ordinary religions so they created another type of religious cult & messiah matrix which awakening people would become susceptible to

i have been exposing this cult-mentality because it is leading spiritually vulnerable & undiscerning people into Deception

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false books such as the urantia book, phoenix journals & anything else that mentions this 'archangel michael' or 'christ michael' character in its numerous names/disguises...

because the manipulators have anticipated that many people would not submit to the lies & fears of ordinary religions so they created another type of religious cult & messiah matrix which awakening people would become susceptible to

i have been exposing this cult-mentality because it is leading spiritually vulnerable & undiscerning people into Deception
 Quoting: ET emissary


Excuse me for butting in, but you're logic is a bit faulty. Even if Candace is a false prophet, it doesn't imply anything about the Urantia Book or the Phoenix Journals. Personally, I think the Urantia Book is 95% true and the Phoenix Journals 5% true, but none of that involves Candace; she's just borrowing material. The only thing you can blame her for are the messages. And even if these messages are false, messages from Christ Michael/Jesus have been around for several years from a large number of sources unrelated to AH. As for Archangel Michael, this is more like a title than a normal name and he is mentioned in the bible.
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false books such as the urantia book, phoenix journals & anything else that mentions this 'archangel michael' or 'christ michael' character in its numerous names/disguises...

because the manipulators have anticipated that many people would not submit to the lies & fears of ordinary religions so they created another type of religious cult & messiah matrix which awakening people would become susceptible to

i have been exposing this cult-mentality because it is leading spiritually vulnerable & undiscerning people into Deception
 Quoting: ET emissary


Excuse me for butting in, but you're logic is a bit faulty. Even if Candace is a false prophet, it doesn't imply anything about the Urantia Book or the Phoenix Journals. Personally, I think the Urantia Book is 95% true and the Phoenix Journals 5% true, but none of that involves Candace; she's just borrowing material. The only thing you can blame her for are the messages. And even if these messages are false, messages from Christ Michael/Jesus have been around for several years from a large number of sources unrelated to AH. As for Archangel Michael, this is more like a title than a normal name and he is mentioned in the bible.
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it is a title, he is the Arch Angel of the resurrection. Whenever its resurrection time at the end of the age, of an planet, an archangel representing the Michael of the local universe is in charge. So he is called the Arch Angel OF Michael.
It is the Arch Angel OF Michael present at these time, who is also providing teaching. His name is not Michael, but he has allowed people to call him such. He has told me to just let it stand so I call him AA Michael too when we converse. You people have NO COSMOLOGY on this world, except the Urantia Book which was given because you have NO COSMOLOGY on this world. You have NO idea how the cosmos runs, so you needed a BOOK to tell you before thee end of the age. This modern material was PROMISED IN YOUR BIBLE. Someplace, I forget where.

However Michael of Revelations is Michael of Nebadon, not AA Michael. Thanks for your post overmind, much appreciated. :rose over water:
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Remember Candace, I'm not defending you personally, I'm straightening out information. I'm fine with people believing what they want as long as they don't make faulty assumptions from bad logic. ET emissary was making a fallacy of division; I had to say something. We'll see if your version of truth somehow plays a part in world events this month; if everything is "delayed" again, I'm moving on with my life.

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Remember Candace, I'm not defending you personally, I'm straightening out information. I'm fine with people believing what they want as long as they don't make faulty assumptions from bad logic. ET emissary was making a fallacy of division; I had to say something. We'll see if your version of truth somehow plays a part in world events this month; if everything is "delayed" again, I'm moving on with my life.
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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is uselles, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is uselles, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
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Yes Tiago 63,

so be it!

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false books such as the urantia book, phoenix journals & anything else that mentions this 'archangel michael' or 'christ michael' character in its numerous names/disguises...

because the manipulators have anticipated that many people would not submit to the lies & fears of ordinary religions so they created another type of religious cult & messiah matrix which awakening people would become susceptible to

i have been exposing this cult-mentality because it is leading spiritually vulnerable & undiscerning people into Deception
 Quoting: ET emissary


Excuse me for butting in, but you're logic is a bit faulty. Even if Candace is a false prophet, it doesn't imply anything about the Urantia Book or the Phoenix Journals. Personally, I think the Urantia Book is 95% true and the Phoenix Journals 5% true, but none of that involves Candace; she's just borrowing material. The only thing you can blame her for are the messages. And even if these messages are false, messages from Christ Michael/Jesus have been around for several years from a large number of sources unrelated to AH. As for Archangel Michael, this is more like a title than a normal name and he is mentioned in the bible.
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it is a title, he is the Arch Angel of the resurrection. Whenever its resurrection time at the end of the age, of an planet, an archangel representing the Michael of the local universe is in charge. So he is called the Arch Angel OF Michael.
It is the Arch Angel OF Michael present at these time, who is also providing teaching. His name is not Michael, but he has allowed people to call him such. He has told me to just let it stand so I call him AA Michael too when we converse. You people have NO COSMOLOGY on this world, except the Urantia Book which was given because you have NO COSMOLOGY on this world. You have NO idea how the cosmos runs, so you needed a BOOK to tell you before thee end of the age. This modern material was PROMISED IN YOUR BIBLE. Someplace, I forget where.

However Michael of Revelations is Michael of Nebadon, not AA Michael. Thanks for your post overmind, much appreciated. :rose over water:
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for me... the urantia book does not sound or feel 'right'...

it has draconian hierarchies, names & ways of ordering things... it absolutely does not describe how our universe really looks like or functions... it is a massive distraction/illusion

imo the urantia book was created by the same manipulators who created the bible & our religions... it was made to snare spiritual people who would not easily submit to the bible & regular religions... so 'they' created a more complex sounding religious cult

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We'll see if your version of truth somehow plays a part in world events this month; if everything is "delayed" again, I'm moving on with my life.
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please do not hesitate or be afraid to liberate yourself... the sooner the better

Because none of her lies/fears have ever taken place nor will they ever take place because 1. that is not how creator is working with the planet & 2. because those messages are coming from manipulators who seek to create maximum confuse during these transforming times

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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is useless, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
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it is useless & a waste of time to put the responsibility of doing your inner spiritual work/development into the hands of some illusory father character
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for me... the urantia book does not sound or feel 'right'...

it has draconian hierarchies, names & ways of ordering things... it absolutely does not describe how our universe really looks like or functions... it is a massive distraction/illusion

imo the urantia book was created by the same manipulators who created the bible & our religions... it was made to snare spiritual people who would not easily submit to the bible & regular religions... so 'they' created a more complex sounding religious cult
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And how much have you actually read? Right now you are saying every past form of revelation and every religion is completely false, created by "manipulators". You're the one spreading a message of fear here and now you have a big burden of proof on your shoulders. The Urantia Book reveals information on history, God, the universe and the life of Jesus, but it doesn't force a belief system on anyone. It just sheds more light on why loving yourself and loving others as yourself is important for the soul and the universe itself. Any spiritual person knows the importance of love. There is no religious cult either, the only thing that has resulted are some study groups, at least where the Urantia Foundation is concerned. Candace is so untrustworthy in your eyes, that whatever material she uses must be false; that is a fallacy of division.

I suggest you read this pdf by the way: [link to www.triplecircle.com]
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We'll see if your version of truth somehow plays a part in world events this month; if everything is "delayed" again, I'm moving on with my life.
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please do not hesitate or be afraid to liberate yourself... the sooner the better

Because none of her lies/fears have ever taken place nor will they ever take place because 1. that is not how creator is working with the planet & 2. because those messages are coming from manipulators who seek to create maximum confuse during these transforming times
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And I partially agree with you, I'm not blindly following someone. Multiple scenarios could play out; the more I know about, the less I will be surprised about and the easier it will be for me to make decisions. I won't ignore information out of the fear of disinformation. We had a discussion before, you were the guy who believed in a so-claimed starseed of Pleiades origin who didn't know the difference between the caduceus and the rod of Asclepius. I know that you spend a significant amount of your time blaming things on "reptilians", but remember that this in-itself is a belief system created by the new age movement, propagated by people like David dIcke. It's likely that you're just gullible, and possess a fear of information you don't understand because you have trouble noticing frauds. Have a nice day.
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for me... the urantia book does not sound or feel 'right'...

it has draconian hierarchies, names & ways of ordering things... it absolutely does not describe how our universe really looks like or functions... it is a massive distraction/illusion

imo the urantia book was created by the same manipulators who created the bible & our religions... it was made to snare spiritual people who would not easily submit to the bible & regular religions... so 'they' created a more complex sounding religious cult
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And how much have you actually read? Right now you are saying every past form of revelation and every religion is completely false, created by "manipulators". You're the one spreading a message of fear here and now you have a big burden of proof on your shoulders. The Urantia Book reveals information on history, God, the universe and the life of Jesus, but it doesn't force a belief system on anyone. It just sheds more light on why loving yourself and loving others as yourself is important for the soul and the universe itself. Any spiritual person knows the importance of love. There is no religious cult either, the only thing that has resulted are some study groups, at least where the Urantia Foundation is concerned. Candace is so untrustworthy in your eyes, that whatever material she uses must be false; that is a fallacy of division.

I suggest you read this pdf by the way: [link to www.triplecircle.com]
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just because the religions & urantia book were created by manipulators that doesn't mean there isn't some 'truth' contained within them... but you have to understand that the manipulators have mixed truths with lies in order to fool people that it is all true... when viewing the larger picture, these religions & cults have only one goal & that is to be a 'spiritual booby-trap'

sure it may mention some truths about love & morality but did you not know that already in the first place? & at what cost now? that the whole book must be truth? & from god? & that you must now worship this god & what he says...

there is nothing to fear about facing this truth that the manipulators have specifically created religions & the urantia book

& lastly... did you even read NiPs latest 'channeled' message?
it is the most anti-human message to date... demonizing all of humanity

it is extremely hateful/vile & contains no love whatsoever

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We'll see if your version of truth somehow plays a part in world events this month; if everything is "delayed" again, I'm moving on with my life.
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please do not hesitate or be afraid to liberate yourself... the sooner the better

Because none of her lies/fears have ever taken place nor will they ever take place because 1. that is not how creator is working with the planet & 2. because those messages are coming from manipulators who seek to create maximum confuse during these transforming times
 Quoting: ET emissary


And I partially agree with you, I'm not blindly following someone. Multiple scenarios could play out; the more I know about, the less I will be surprised about and the easier it will be for me to make decisions. I won't ignore information out of the fear of disinformation. We had a discussion before, you were the guy who believed in a so-claimed starseed of Pleiades origin who didn't know the difference between the caduceus and the rod of Asclepius. I know that you spend a significant amount of your time blaming things on "reptilians", but remember that this in-itself is a belief system created by the new age movement, propagated by people like David dIcke. It's likely that you're just gullible, and possess a fear of information you don't understand because you have trouble noticing frauds. Have a nice day.
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i don't blame everything on the reptilians... but the reptilians have played a major role in our dilemma ...

clearly there are many humans in positions of power that would rather keep things as they are for whatever reasons... maybe because it benefits them or they may not know certain things

& again i did not get any of my information about reptilians from David dIcke(i dont know why it posts his name like that) however to a certain extent he does speak some truths about the reptilians & their involvement

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for me... the urantia book does not sound or feel 'right'...

it has draconian hierarchies, names & ways of ordering things... it absolutely does not describe how our universe really looks like or functions... it is a massive distraction/illusion

imo the urantia book was created by the same manipulators who created the bible & our religions... it was made to snare spiritual people who would not easily submit to the bible & regular religions... so 'they' created a more complex sounding religious cult
 Quoting: ET emissary


And how much have you actually read? Right now you are saying every past form of revelation and every religion is completely false, created by "manipulators". You're the one spreading a message of fear here and now you have a big burden of proof on your shoulders. The Urantia Book reveals information on history, God, the universe and the life of Jesus, but it doesn't force a belief system on anyone. It just sheds more light on why loving yourself and loving others as yourself is important for the soul and the universe itself. Any spiritual person knows the importance of love. There is no religious cult either, the only thing that has resulted are some study groups, at least where the Urantia Foundation is concerned. Candace is so untrustworthy in your eyes, that whatever material she uses must be false; that is a fallacy of division.

I suggest you read this pdf by the way: [link to www.triplecircle.com]
 Quoting: overmind


just because the religions & urantia book were created by manipulators that doesn't mean there isn't some 'truth' contained within them... but you have to understand that the manipulators have mixed truths with lies in order to fool people that it is all true... when viewing the larger picture, these religions & cults have only one goal & that is to be a 'spiritual booby-trap'

sure it may mention some truths about love & morality but did you not know that already in the first place? & at what cost now? that the whole book must be truth? & from god? & that you must now worship this god & what he says...

there is nothing to fear about facing this truth that the manipulators have specifically created religions & the urantia book

& lastly... did you even read NiPs latest message?
it is the most anti-human message to date... demonizing all of humanity

it is extremely hateful/vile & contains no love whatsoever
 Quoting: ET emissary


As I've said before, I don't support NiP. You would have to direct me to the message because I haven't noticed anything of that nature. I have not made the argument that the Urantia Book is truth because it simply involves love, don't put words in my mouth. I only stated that love is an important part of it. Read the pdf, I provided at least a little evidence to support my position.

Real religion is one's personal relationship with God, it is the only religion I'm a part of. I can understand why it is hard to accept human error for what it is, and blaming aliens is a powerful escape, but shifting blame won't solve any problems. No alien from a different dimension is going to change my direction. I will decide how my eternal destiny plays out; that is my right as a soul with freewill and no force in this universe is capable of getting in my way. Nothing is capable of changing my status as one of God's beloved children. The same is true for everyone else.

Now let's recap. You believe religion on this planet contains enough truth to attract people, but is mixed with lies on purpose. In some cases this is true (like portions of the Old Testament), but some of these lies are actually misunderstandings. I'm going to go a bit farther than you and say that no belief system created on earth is 100% right, nor can be proven to be 100% right or wrong because of man's inability to discern ultimate truth from higher sources. Any and every belief that cannot be proven is debatable, and either requires trust or faith. This involves your own belief in manipulating aliens as well as my belief that humans are fully capable of making this planet a shithole all by themselves.
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i don't blame everything on the reptilians... but the reptilians have played a major role in our dilemma ...

clearly there are many humans in positions of power that would rather keep things as they are for whatever reasons... maybe because it benefits them or they may not know certain things

& again i did not get any of my information about reptilians from David dIcke(i dont know why it posts his name like that) however to a certain extent he does speak some truths about the reptilians & their involvement
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If you read carefully, I never accused you of listening to David. I only mention his name because he is a big source for this sort of stuff.
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As I've said before, I don't support NiP. You would have to direct me to the message because I haven't noticed anything of that nature. I have not made the argument that the Urantia Book is truth because it simply involves love, don't put words in my mouth. I only stated that love is an important part of it. Read the pdf, I provided at least a little evidence to support my position.

Real religion is one's personal relationship with God, it is the only religion I'm a part of. I can understand why it is hard to accept human error for what it is, and blaming aliens is a powerful escape, but shifting blame won't solve any problems. No alien from a different dimension is going to change my direction. I will decide how my eternal destiny plays out; that is my right as a soul with freewill and no force in this universe is capable of getting in my way. Nothing is capable of changing my status as one of God's beloved children. The same is true for everyone else.

Now let's recap. You believe religion on this planet contains enough truth to attract people, but is mixed with lies on purpose. In some cases this is true (like portions of the Old Testament), but some of these lies are actually misunderstandings. I'm going to go a bit farther than you and say that no belief system created on earth is 100% right, nor can be proven to be 100% right or wrong because of man's inability to discern ultimate truth from higher sources. Any and every belief that cannot be proven is debatable, and either requires trust or faith. This involves your own belief in manipulating aliens as well as my belief that humans are fully capable of making this planet a shithole all by themselves.
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well you have the free will to think that the urantia book is authentic...

i do not want to download your link... i have a copy of the urantia book & i have already come to the conclusion as explained many time before that it is not authentic nor does it describe the real creator & how creation works

compared to regular religions... the urantia book is a much more sophisticated spiritual booby-trap

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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is useless, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
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it is useless & a waste of time to put the responsibility of doing your inner spiritual work/development into the hands of some illusory father character
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your inner development is aided by that piece of MIND OF THE FATHER that "overshadows" your mind and if you don't listen to it, your evolution will take a lot longer.
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As I've said before, I don't support NiP. You would have to direct me to the message because I haven't noticed anything of that nature. I have not made the argument that the Urantia Book is truth because it simply involves love, don't put words in my mouth. I only stated that love is an important part of it. Read the pdf, I provided at least a little evidence to support my position.

Real religion is one's personal relationship with God, it is the only religion I'm a part of. I can understand why it is hard to accept human error for what it is, and blaming aliens is a powerful escape, but shifting blame won't solve any problems. No alien from a different dimension is going to change my direction. I will decide how my eternal destiny plays out; that is my right as a soul with freewill and no force in this universe is capable of getting in my way. Nothing is capable of changing my status as one of God's beloved children. The same is true for everyone else.

Now let's recap. You believe religion on this planet contains enough truth to attract people, but is mixed with lies on purpose. In some cases this is true (like portions of the Old Testament), but some of these lies are actually misunderstandings. I'm going to go a bit farther than you and say that no belief system created on earth is 100% right, nor can be proven to be 100% right or wrong because of man's inability to discern ultimate truth from higher sources. Any and every belief that cannot be proven is debatable, and either requires trust or faith. This involves your own belief in manipulating aliens as well as my belief that humans are fully capable of making this planet a shithole all by themselves.
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well you have the free will to think that the urantia book is authentic...

i do not want to download your link... i have a copy of the urantia book & i have already come to the conclusion as explained many time before that it is not authentic nor does it describe the real creator & how creation works

compared to regular religions... the urantia book is a much more sophisticated spiritual booby-trap
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And I've already explained that the link provides evidence that it is authentic; it's about scientific validation. It's clear that since you won't analyze evidence contrary to your beliefs, you possess the same characteristics of a religious fundamentalist. Put bluntly, you're too opinionated. Surely you must realize that people won't take you seriously if you don't provide evidence AND ignore theirs? I'm open for an active discussion, but it's pointless when someone behaves this way. So let me get back to the task at hand, what evidence do you possess to support your case?
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And I've already explained that the link provides evidence that it is authentic; it's about scientific validation. It's clear that since you won't analyze evidence contrary to your beliefs, you possess the same characteristics of a religious fundamentalist. Put bluntly, you're too opinionated. Surely you must realize that people won't take you seriously if you don't provide evidence AND ignore theirs? I'm open for an active discussion, but it's pointless when someone behaves this way. So let me get back to the task at hand, what evidence do you possess to support your case?
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no, i dont want to download horseshit onto my computer lol

provide a website link instead.. then ill check it out
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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is useless, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
 Quoting: Tiago63



it is useless & a waste of time to put the responsibility of doing your inner spiritual work/development into the hands of some illusory father character
 Quoting: ET emissary


your inner development is aided by that piece of MIND OF THE FATHER that "overshadows" your mind and if you don't listen to it, your evolution will take a lot longer.
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NiP you keep talking about the 'MIND'... yet you don't use your own 'MIND' in figuring out that those messages are not from benevolent beings despite all the evidence..

(Hint: listen to your --> HEART <-- First, since that is more important than listening to your 'MIND')
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So much talk, so much discussions. All of this is useless, a waste of time.
Let the Father do his Work because his Work will be done, regardless of our opinions.
Let us be in constant contact with our Inner Self.
So be it!
 Quoting: Tiago63



it is useless & a waste of time to put the responsibility of doing your inner spiritual work/development into the hands of some illusory father character
 Quoting: ET emissary


your inner development is aided by that piece of MIND OF THE FATHER that "overshadows" your mind and if you don't listen to it, your evolution will take a lot longer.
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NiP you keep talking about the 'MIND'... yet you don't use your own 'MIND' in figuring out that those messages are not from benevolent beings despite all the evidence..

(Hint: listen to your --> HEART <-- First, since that is more important than listening to your 'MIND')
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Sorry fail on that one. I KNOW THEM.
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And I've already explained that the link provides evidence that it is authentic; it's about scientific validation. It's clear that since you won't analyze evidence contrary to your beliefs, you possess the same characteristics of a religious fundamentalist. Put bluntly, you're too opinionated. Surely you must realize that people won't take you seriously if you don't provide evidence AND ignore theirs? I'm open for an active discussion, but it's pointless when someone behaves this way. So let me get back to the task at hand, what evidence do you possess to support your case?
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no, i dont want to download horseshit onto my computer lol

provide a website link instead.. then ill check it out
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You misunderstand, the pdf should open in the web browser. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. If anything were to save, it would only be a temp file.

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what evidence do you possess to support your case?
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well the biggest(literally) 'evidence' i can point out for negative alien manipulation is... the Moon!!! hidden in plain sight lol

billions of people have seen it yet few question why it does not spin as in we only see one side of it all the time or why its so large & so close in proximity to earth

the 'moon' is basically an artificial satellite

the moon also helped them set up a time-matrix as well as affecting earths weather

earths tilt has also been artificially induced to create extreme weather conditions & four seasons to complement the time-matrix




next we have the topic of our DNA... ever wonder why we use a small percent of our DNA? our DNA did not deactivate by itself lol

'someone' deactivated our DNA to make us more manageable

because there is no such thing as 'junk DNA'... if we had full DNA active we would be awesome human creatures.. capable of natural rejuvenation among other things

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Sorry fail on that one. I KNOW THEM.
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yea i know... you think you know everything

;)-

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what evidence do you possess to support your case?
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well the biggest(literally) 'evidence' i can point out for negative alien manipulation is... the Moon!!! hidden in plain sight lol

billions of people have seen it yet few question why it does not spin as in we only see one side of it all the time or why its so large & so close in proximity to earth

the 'moon' is basically an artificial satellite

the moon also helped them set up a time-matrix as well as affecting earths weather

earths tilt has also been artificially induced to create extreme weather conditions & four seasons to complement the time-matrix




next we have the topic of our DNA... ever wonder why we use a small percent of our DNA? our DNA did not deactivate by itself lol

'someone' deactivated our DNA to make us more manageable

because there is no such thing as 'junk DNA'... if we had full DNA active we would be awesome human creatures.. capable of natural rejuvenation among other things
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I agree that our DNA was manipulated, but I blame Caligastia for this. There is also the problem that our DNA wasn't improved enough from our early evolutionary stage, and that is covered in the story of the Adamic default. However, some of the dormant DNA we have can be activated through willpower, although I can't adequately explain how this works. I haven't learned much about human DNA, it's not where I focus my research time.

For the moon part, I do believe it is possible that there are at least structures on the moon. I've seen where NASA edited the photos. As for the origin, I believe it is natural and was formed before life even existed on this planet. One reason why the origin of the moon is mysterious is because scientists still aren't entirely sure how the solar system was formed in the first place; I believe they are still supporting the nebular hypothesis right now, but that could change.

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Sorry fail on that one. I KNOW THEM.
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yea i know... you think you know everything

;)-
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NIP DID NOT SAY SHE KNOWS ABOUT THEM...indicating intellectual knowing...

She said SHE KNOWS THEM....PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AND KNOWING

HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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Sorry fail on that one. I KNOW THEM.
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yea i know... you think you know everything

;)-
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NIP DID NOT SAY SHE KNOWS ABOUT THEM...indicating intellectual knowing...

She said SHE KNOWS THEM....PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AND KNOWING

HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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she thinks she knows exactly 'who' they are but clearly by the content of the messages 'they' are negative entities or reptilians imo
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