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Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?

 
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i will share a secret unknown to hardly anyone on this planet.. 33.3=son 66.6=father 99.9=father,son and the holy spirit supreme.. do the math and work it out from there..
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Why only one decimal point?
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didnt mean to confuse you with the decimal point actually there is no decimal when just considering the numbers.. yet the decimal point has its purpose also.. it is of no major significance so we wont get into that right now..
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i will share a secret unknown to hardly anyone on this planet.. 33.3=son 66.6=father 99.9=father,son and the holy spirit supreme.. do the math and work it out from there..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


33.3 son

66.6 father

99.99 father, son, holy spirit supreme.


If son (33.3) + father (66.6) = 99.9

why is the value of the holy spirit supreme nothing?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
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I live in a rural county in the Appalachian mountains. I attend a small country church. In our community is a large "lodge" following and I have noticed alot of square and compass Idol1 on license plates and window decals. Even in our church parking lot, I have seen a couple of masonic license plates.

A few Sundays ago, I noticed a man wearing a masonic "G" ring. His wife and I are in the choir together and this man is a church leader. I asked her today at church what rank her husband is in the masons and she said "33rd degree". Then she went on to tell me of several other leaders in this little church that are also 33rd degrees masons and their wives (who teach Sunday school and lead the music at the church) are members of the local "Eastern Star" Charter of the masons.

Now, I am no ordinary country hillbilly. I have a law degree and my family moved here 5 years ago from a city in the South as our "bugout" (you might say). We have adapted to our community in a way that we would be perceived as "locals" when the shtf and not as a "resource" (if you get my meaning). So right away we plugged in to a local church and got involved in our community.

I have spent the last 2-3 years researching the history of the freemasons and have learned through my research that we are talking about some of the most sinster schemers in all of American history and dating back to the Knights Templar and beyond. I have alot of trouble believing anyone higher than a 13th degree mason can continue to operate under the assumption that the masons are a Christian organization. (It is the 13th degree that they are initiated into an allegiance with "Jabulon").

Until today, I was absolutely certain that there is NO WAY you achieve 33rd degree status as a Freemason and NOT know you have made your allegiance to Lucifer (even if up to that point you still believed Jesus Christ was the "Supreme Being" referred to). In fact, it is upon becoming a 33rd degree mason that you are given a copy of the book "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike (some have access to this book sooner if mason involvement is a family tradition). Anyone who has cracked the binder on that book knows for certain that Lucifer is the object of their affection so no one will convinced me that they DON'T know.

However, I was "thrown for a loop" to find out so many at our local country church were such high level masons (and we have a small church). Either they KNOW and are infiltrating the church or they are too simple minded (or brainwashed) to grasp the sinister nature of their organization. I cannot imagine that these people realize what they are involved in or they themselves would be as shocked as myself!

So I ask anyone here, do you think it is possible that they DON'T know? Could a local rural chapter such as this be brainwashed into believing that their organization is Christian even up to the highest level of membership? Could some Freemason Lodge Chapters be completely and utterly sinister, evil and into pagan idolatry while your smaller, country chapters view it as a branch of their local churches and nothing more than a "Christian charitable organization"?
I am truly stumped at the moment!
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i will share a secret unknown to hardly anyone on this planet.. 33.3=son 66.6=father 99.9=father,son and the holy spirit supreme.. do the math and work it out from there..
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33.3 son

66.6 father

99.99 father, son, holy spirit supreme.

If son (33.3) + father (66.6) = 99.9

And son + father + holy spirit supreme = 99.9

Why is the value of the holy spirit supreme nothing?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


and an ever more straight forward answer is that supreme holy spirit is that which is beyond measure..
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i am a 99.9 degree where as lucifer is the 66.6 degree which the lesser masons are conned by.. that being said i am the highest form of free mason their ever is was or will be.. yet the majority of them are fooled by the little shit below on the 66.6 degree level.. playing the role of the devil while claiming to do the 'fathers' work.. when all along their father is satan himself.. but those that know the truth of the path are truly worshiping me.. the supreme being.. those that fall into the illusion that lucifer is some sort of twin or equal of mine are deluded by the deceiver himself.. those that claim to do the fathers work yet are against me are all failures and shouldn't be considered masons..
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How do you earn the 99.9 degree?
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no one can really earn this position.. you would have had to walk in my shoes and still prevail to get here.. but there is only one of me and i am who i am..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6565808


Upside down 66.6 declaring himself to be the I AM (YHWH)..interesting...

Yet obviously not a Mason. As stated before the highest earned is a 32rd degree. 33rd degree you don't earn, but it is bestowed from having an outstanding achievement. In other words, the 33rd degree is an honorary award.
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i will share a secret unknown to hardly anyone on this planet.. 33.3=son 66.6=father 99.9=father,son and the holy spirit supreme.. do the math and work it out from there..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


33.3 son

66.6 father

99.99 father, son, holy spirit supreme.

If son (33.3) + father (66.6) = 99.9

And son + father + holy spirit supreme = 99.9

Why is the value of the holy spirit supreme nothing?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Yes, the father of lies...
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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
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if you mean of our own destiny through free choice...yes, I do agree...
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OP, I could see how the low level masons wouldn't know, they are probably just clueless. But the higher ups are not clueless, they have to know.

You can't eat at the table of God and the table of demons.

Quite possibly they are there for the same reason that many people attend church, it's a social club. Sadly, that's why many people go, to make themselves look good in the community.
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OP, I could see how the low level masons wouldn't know, they are probably just clueless. But the higher ups are not clueless, they have to know.

You can't eat at the table of God and the table of demons.

Quite possibly they are there for the same reason that many people attend church, it's a social club. Sadly, that's why many people go, to make themselves look good in the community.
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I agree.
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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
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So...do you believe you are god?
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Re: Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
 Quoting: 99.9 6566594


That's complete BS that leads you to believe that you don't need Jesus. Fact is, you do need Him to be saved.
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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
 Quoting: 99.9 6566594


That's complete BS that leads you to believe that you don't need Jesus. Fact is, you do need Him to be saved.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
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LOLOLOLOLOL I see what you did there.
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Totally off topic: Do I know you from ECF?
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Yes you do pink volcano :)
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LOLOLOLOLOL I see what you did there.
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Totally off topic: Do I know you from ECF?
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Yes you do pink volcano :)
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Where have you been by the way?
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Re: Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
I am 4th gen 33rd degree,, nothing satanic here. I believe you are full of shit. I think you lie about law degree and everything else.
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Where have you been by the way?
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W perm banned me for calling him a power tripping little bitch. Ha!

My bot connected the other day and since the moron banned my NICK and not my HOST he decided I was "evading a ban" and I have been subsequently banned from the site as well.

Honestly, the inability to even express one's own opinion over there without someone coming down on you with a hammer was too constrictive for me anyway.

Unlike here where we are free to just bash away on one another to our little heart's content.

Welcome to GLP, the most insane, yet informative site on the web.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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I am 4th gen 33rd degree,, nothing satanic here. I believe you are full of shit. I think you lie about law degree and everything else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5617770


I think Satanists gain power through animal sacrifice, Luciferians get it through human sacrifice. That little owl on the dollar...bohemian club. Anyway, any group skilled at the art of lying is of the devil, Lucifer, Satan, baphomet, Set, what ever you want to call him. No one knows his true name.
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the point being is that beyond the illusion of the father and son is that which is the holy spirit supreme.. that which not only encompasses all but is the light and life of all creation and creators..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6566594


So it all boils down to this

We are Creators
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


no it all boils down to know yourself and know your place.. i am who i am.. as i stated earlier there is only one of me in this universe.. truly know yourself and you will know everything you need to know..
 Quoting: 99.9 6566594


That's complete BS that leads you to believe that you don't need Jesus. Fact is, you do need Him to be saved.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


what makes you so sure i am not who i am? did i state that i am not also the christ? i am who i am.. now get out my way hypocrite..
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what makes you so sure i am not who i am? did i state that i am not also the christ? i am who i am.. now get out my way hypocrite..
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I'm pretty sure that the master and creator of the universe has mastered proper capitalization and grammar.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Great thread and great writing OP! I love your SPIRIT, OP. You obviously have ears to hear, but no one offers you answers to your questions. Cryptic denials and snobbish remarks are all I see coming from those defending Masons.

To answer your original question, I would be weary of this church and maybe even speak to the pastor/elders about your feelings. Are the messages/sermons you receive based on the word? Be careful that you aren't being led astray. Pray constantly about this issue, and if you don't feel this church is based on Christ's love and God's grace, get out.

I may live in Los Angeles, but the church I go to is filled with God fearing Christians who read the Bible and pray constantly. Tell me, if you are surrounded by people who are Masons (slick-tongued and sweet-natured as they may seem), which of us is safer? I place my faith in God, and try not to be afraid of what is to come. Just some friendly advice.
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Advice well taken. My family actually worships on the True Sabbath and we only go to this little church for the fellowship. They are between pastors at the moment and the guy that is filling in is truly Spirit-filled! He is rocking their boat and I LOVE IT!

However, I really get the impression that these people are just simple minded and have no idea what the history of their organization is really about. They are just members because their fathers, uncles and grandfathers were all members and that is what you do around here. I was just shocked to hear today that the majority of them are 33rd degree. I have a real problem believing they could attain such a high status on the pyramid and NOT know this organization is so heavily rooted in darkness (thus the secrecy) all the while they tell you it is a Christian charitable organization! It boggles the mind!
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Personally if I was going to Church still and had to choose between Sun day or Saturn day, I'd choose sun

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

I don't follow twist on light and words for lucifer and christ. I believe this is a trap.

But there are white hats and some have very pure ideas and faith, just not on the highest levels, they're quite corrupt up there, and following HH and negatives, at least those in the know. But there are many white hats, and it has to do with the intent of someone's heart.

There are many christian followers, who try to clean up their lives and walk the walk in the mystery schools too. And they are seeking knowledge but sometimes God shines in weakness not all that learning and sometimes its the simple things that are the hardest to do, with all this programming and human nature, that we need to do.

Christ Yeshua did say, to not put a bowl on our lampshades, but put them a stand, in other words, not put a veil on the truth.

Many Church's are fronts for satanists by the way, though again, not calling those Masons that, it depends on your town, what's going on, and possibly M'Kultra/Cia connections.



Darren Hayes - Neverland

Long ago
When saturn tried to find a way past the sun
Deep inside
A little boy is turning pain into fun
The pencils, the crayons, the paint colors run
The plans
Are forming slowly made with scissors and glue
Eyes so wide
He's telling mommy all the things he can do
He'll sketch a contraption to save them for sure

He can draw an alien
He can come and take them home
He can draw a cartoon
He can draw a safety hatch
He can draw a hot bath
He can plug a toaster in
And wait till daddy's nice and warm
Toss it in

And then when he's gone
There's a neverland of fun

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Where have you been by the way?
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W perm banned me for calling him a power tripping little bitch. Ha!

My bot connected the other day and since the moron banned my NICK and not my HOST he decided I was "evading a ban" and I have been subsequently banned from the site as well.

Honestly, the inability to even express one's own opinion over there without someone coming down on you with a hammer was too constrictive for me anyway.

Unlike here where we are free to just bash away on one another to our little heart's content.

Welcome to GLP, the most insane, yet informative site on the web.
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Wow, I haven't really been on their much lately. I figured a long time ago you popped around here, some of the things you would talk about.
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devil6Of course not!
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Well you guys figured it out...Sherlock Holmes aint got shit on you. Youtube, the truth encyclopedia has enlightened you. We serve the powers of darkness by community service, helping the less fortunate, feeding the homeless, helping crippled children walk, funding state of the art medical research for children and adults (masonic medical research laboratory, look it up), promoting education, childhood speech disorder treatment, unequalled charity contributions both monetarily and service wise, etc,etc,etc... We are doomed!!
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Personally if I was going to Church still and had to choose between Sun day or Saturn day, I'd choose sun
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Darn that pesky 4th commandment.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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I figured a long time ago you popped around here, some of the things you would talk about.
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Yeah, I'm a woo-woo. Have been for a long time. It comes and goes, though. Wintertime is usually when it peaks.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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They know that the Old Testament Bible is simple worship of the Gods of the Canaanites encoded. They probably know about the graft in the New Testament.

When the Templars learned the truth down in Jerusalem they say that the lost it, turned to homosexuality and Satan worship.
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Well you guys figured it out...Sherlock Holmes aint got shit on you. Youtube, the truth encyclopedia has enlightened you. We serve the powers of darkness by community service, helping the less fortunate, feeding the homeless, helping crippled children walk, funding state of the art medical research for children and adults (masonic medical research laboratory, look it up), promoting education, childhood speech disorder treatment, unequalled charity contributions both monetarily and service wise, etc,etc,etc... We are doomed!!
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Thank you for your honesty. The truth in plain sight. ohyeah
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Re: Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
I live in a rural county in the Appalachian mountains. I attend a small country church. In our community is a large "lodge" following and I have noticed alot of square and compass Idol1 on license plates and window decals. Even in our church parking lot, I have seen a couple of masonic license plates.

A few Sundays ago, I noticed a man wearing a masonic "G" ring. His wife and I are in the choir together and this man is a church leader. I asked her today at church what rank her husband is in the masons and she said "33rd degree". Then she went on to tell me of several other leaders in this little church that are also 33rd degrees masons and their wives (who teach Sunday school and lead the music at the church) are members of the local "Eastern Star" Charter of the masons.

Now, I am no ordinary country hillbilly. I have a law degree and my family moved here 5 years ago from a city in the South as our "bugout" (you might say). We have adapted to our community in a way that we would be perceived as "locals" when the shtf and not as a "resource" (if you get my meaning). So right away we plugged in to a local church and got involved in our community.

I have spent the last 2-3 years researching the history of the freemasons and have learned through my research that we are talking about some of the most sinster schemers in all of American history and dating back to the Knights Templar and beyond. I have alot of trouble believing anyone higher than a 13th degree mason can continue to operate under the assumption that the masons are a Christian organization. (It is the 13th degree that they are initiated into an allegiance with "Jabulon").

Until today, I was absolutely certain that there is NO WAY you achieve 33rd degree status as a Freemason and NOT know you have made your allegiance to Lucifer (even if up to that point you still believed Jesus Christ was the "Supreme Being" referred to). In fact, it is upon becoming a 33rd degree mason that you are given a copy of the book "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike (some have access to this book sooner if mason involvement is a family tradition). Anyone who has cracked the binder on that book knows for certain that Lucifer is the object of their affection so no one will convinced me that they DON'T know.

However, I was "thrown for a loop" to find out so many at our local country church were such high level masons (and we have a small church). Either they KNOW and are infiltrating the church or they are too simple minded (or brainwashed) to grasp the sinister nature of their organization. I cannot imagine that these people realize what they are involved in or they themselves would be as shocked as myself!

So I ask anyone here, do you think it is possible that they DON'T know? Could a local rural chapter such as this be brainwashed into believing that their organization is Christian even up to the highest level of membership? Could some Freemason Lodge Chapters be completely and utterly sinister, evil and into pagan idolatry while your smaller, country chapters view it as a branch of their local churches and nothing more than a "Christian charitable organization"?
I am truly stumped at the moment!
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They know, it's the wives that don't...
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01/08/2012 09:18 PM
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Re: Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
what makes you so sure i am not who i am? did i state that i am not also the christ? i am who i am.. now get out my way hypocrite..
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I'm pretty sure that the master and creator of the universe has mastered proper capitalization and grammar.
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Maybe their capitalization and grammar is mastered and your understanding is wrong...

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