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Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?

 
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Them and the pope both
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Lucifer - Light Bringer.

Fail.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Why don't you "illuminate" me. I am simply trying to understand.
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I am going to be honest with you, but you won't believe me. I am a freemason, and your entire conception of what freemasonry is is based on factless rumors and mythology. What you think about freemasonry is from the Leo Taxil hoax, a known admitted historical hoax. Freemasonry has nothing to do with Lucifer, or worshiping anything for that matter.

That is the TRUTH...but will you hear it?
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My knowledge of freemasonry has come from READING Albert Pikes "Morals and Dogma". So now you want to tell me it has nothing to do with Lucifer?

Here is a quote from Master Mason Albert Pike HIMSELF...


"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]
[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]

What else ya got? chuckle
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I'm interested in this too.Can you supply a couple quotes where it says that he worships Lucifer. This passage could be a warning telling people to be careful. i'm fairly young and newer to these subjects but very much interested in any and all information an knowledge that's somehow helpful and not merely "gossip".
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Lucifer isn't Satan. The evil one is YHVH and he certaintly isn't the entity which Christ came to represent.

In the end all three major religions have been dupted into beleiving the evil one is most high. That's the grand deception, even the elect shall be decieved.
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Holy crap, i recently heard the same. that way back and i mean wayyyyyy back, before islam, juda, christian. People worship planets and provoked spirits from mars most the time but also from earth. using chants, hymns, melodies, harmony repeatedly then saying certain spirit names. This was called the dark arts, something like black magic and it was passed down from ancient Iraq and when it came to light people ran them out and they spread the art around the world being spread down from words and 1000 years or something later finally written down.
Saying how to trap genie into bottles which were called jinns i think. i think it is also the reason why we went into Iraq, so many things were looted from there from small idols, scrolls among many other things.

@ OP - Have you heard anything about this?

They're called GRIMORIES i think. Yale has one of three of the texts from original of the original arts passed down. They don't allow pictures or public access to it and something like the skull an bones use it or something.
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anonymous coward, mutha fuck you, you insignificant piece of shit. The Holy Bible is True, every word unlike your retarded dung book of satan, evolution & big bang BS comic books and etc. BIBLICAL PROPHECY IS COMING TO PASS, unlike annything you can witness or have ever witnessed, or will witness for the time being, for that matter.
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All masons are not of God and very secretive and meant to look as good doers. Satanic rituals are of the norm among this group. You must pray to our heavenly God for their souls. And all of the surrogates. Do not continue to worship God in that church! God bless you all and your souls!
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Lucifer - Light Bringer.

Fail.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Why don't you "illuminate" me. I am simply trying to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6409369


um so who exactly told you that pledging allegiance to satan you cant actually repent of that and turn towards Christ that is the first lie....as long as you are alive you can repent...now why do you care about lodges if you believe in Christ and God whats the big deal leave them alone pray for them and walk your path with Christ....do you prefer eternity or crap
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Hello All-- I have been a Mason for almost 30 years. I am an ordained minister and have a PhD in computer science and have just received my 33rd degree.

While Albert Pike was a Scottish Rite Mason and as some feel an expert in all things Masonic, Albert Pike was a nut job who found it more fun to poke fun at things, However Mr. Pike has done more damage to the Masonic Order then any person in it's illustrious history.

Now this is just from my perspective, my studying masonic books, reading the things that those that are not part of the order will never see and also by my study of the Word Of God that Masonry is not evil nor do we worship ANY GOD. You see Masonry does not say that you have to be a Christian or a Muslim or a Buddhist what it says is that you must believe in the existence of a supreme being. Christ said Let every man work out his own soul salvation--But with that being said there are evil people in our organization with Evil ideas and motives people like Albert Pike and we can no more control them than we can control a crooked police officer or a priest that hurts children.

But we don't say all Police are Crooked or all priest are molesters we acknowledge that fact that some times there are bad apples. Accept that with Masons as well

To the original poster sit down and have a real talk with your friend's husband ask him to show you what's in his rituals Masonry is not a secret society it is a society that has secrets. Much like the Elks or the boy scouts or the american legions. With the difference being that many famous people are members.
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One man's hell is another man's heaven (and vice-versa).

Masons are the children of fire (phopherous, lux) versus the priestly class the children of water (holy water).

Cain (Able and Seth's bro') is the progenitor of the masons / masonic spiritual type, the original widow's son. Cain's dad was an Elohim, Samael / Azazel / Satanael which made Cain more (or less) than human, mother was a human, Eve.

Cain bloodline is a misnomer, blood grouping and blood type, rhesus have no influence. If you are a "believer" or spiritual then you are a sheep / sheeple. If you rather rely on reason, science et al you are a goat / Mason / Masonic.

Mason's know they are praising Cain (Tubal-Cain) and his Elohim father aka Lucifer aka Satan.

All Masons from 3rd level and up know they are giving allegiance to Lucifer - there is no doubt about that. They are just not man enough to confess it to the world and like to "hide" it behind strange sayings and stories and fables and symbols and symbolisms.

They also need to infiltrate the sheep and make goats out of the better ones. Churches are good places to recruit new Masons and only next to the Military / Military complex. "Satanists" might have a hard time recruiting believers, but men involved with social projects should not have a problem at all. Masons are (seemingly) big on social projects.

Masons are generally good men and can usually be trusted.
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To be honest I am thinking of joining either of the masonic groups, the masons or the OTO. I know good men in both of these organisations.
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Masons who are not of the 30-32 degree are intentionally led to believe one thing while the higher degrees are exposed to the truth, and that is that lucifer is the true god.

Please watch this video, it lays it out perfectly and its all sourced from the masons themselves.



Watch this first if you have time to watch both.

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freemasons are just a group of men and women who come together and talk about politics,economics,...
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Where have you been by the way?
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W perm banned me for calling him a power tripping little bitch. Ha!

My bot connected the other day and since the moron banned my NICK and not my HOST he decided I was "evading a ban" and I have been subsequently banned from the site as well.

Honestly, the inability to even express one's own opinion over there without someone coming down on you with a hammer was too constrictive for me anyway.

Unlike here where we are free to just bash away on one another to our little heart's content.

Welcome to GLP, the most insane, yet informative site on the web.
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Don't count on it, i used to be a paying member here until I spoke my mind and got banned. Now i pop in and keep in touch with 5 posters here. There's much better forums out there.
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Lucifer isn't Satan. The evil one is YHVH and he certaintly isn't the entity which Christ came to represent.

In the end all three major religions have been dupted into beleiving the evil one is most high. That's the grand deception, even the elect shall be decieved.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest






^ This ^
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Just started to read "Morals and dogmas" by Albert Pike and I know it is true but I don't think all the 33 degree masons now these things. Even Pike says that many freemasons doesn't know what these things mean. I know it is true cause I already studied many of these things before even knowing that these symbols were represented by the freemasons.

Black-white, bees, Mithras, Isis (Yeah I finally understood that she is actually the high prietess on the second tarot card between two pillars black and white With "J" and "B"written on them.) Phosphorus(Study that and the element and you will understand why they see him as a creator), evil mixed with good= Harmony, The 15 and the 27, the guy who take the blame and the guy who gets all the glory. Doing everything for the greater good, the sacrifice that the good guy couldn't do.

So yeah, after seeing everything I could say that Lucifer is a martyr that some people would see more like a God than an other and I understand their point but I don't agree with it. "The all-seeing eye and the ears, God have made them booth" Remeber the words but forgotten the verse from the bible.
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In other words, the 33rd degree is an honorary award, a pat on the back.

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Yes. In the same way that obumma starts wars based on lies fraud and deceit, murders countless woman and children. They give obumma the Nobel peace prize, it is an honorary award for his life time of service to lucifer,
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When God drop kicked Satan and the other fallen Angels from Heaven, Lucifer was satan's side kick.

God locked satan in the bottomless pit and Lucifer came to Earth. Lucifer still controls the Earth at this time.

Shortly, God will release satan from the bottomless pit, after the 5th Angel has launched.

When the 7 th Angel launches all those who serve lucifer, that includes masons, will be removed from this Planet.
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Nice thread idea, OP.

George Washington stopped going to his meetings the last 30 yrs of his life, attended church and converted to Christ on his death bed.

From what I understand, the masonic rituals themselves differ very little from known wicca/witch rites... former "illuminati" John Todd talks about this.

the rituals are designed to subtly open the members to demonic possession. this is one way the supernatural runs things here.

Imagine the politicians, firemen and police officers who have a demon whispering in their ear and causing them to do evil... BUT these men are taught that its ok to do some evil, so long as they make up for it with "good deeds". All deeds-based ideas are satanic and lead to corruption. At first this seems counter-intuitive, but think on it and it makes sense... We cannot work our way to heaven. We must seek forgiveness of our sins.

they are allowed to believe in God and consider themselves Christian, because as long as they go through the rituals, they have made a free will CHOICE to allow satan to work through them.

This as opposed to a true relationship with God and Jesus Christ, which takes work and prayer to develop and maintain.

this sins of the fathers is passed down--these are demonic attachments your parents made--basically deals w the devil for power and prestige... so some are born a high rank already w special demon enhanced abilities... John Todd was one of these...

the genes express based on environment and BELIEFS... see Bruce Lipton: "Biology of Belief"

this is why tptb are so careful to keep bloodlines: these attachments take time to acquire and connote power that is diluted by generations.

All of the former occultists who get out of their secret orders do so only by turning to Christ, else they are easily killed w demons/magik.

Unfortunately, by the time someone gets to 33rd degree I would question how much control they really have over themselves.

Expect them to be kind and diplomatic, but also capable of something quite evil.

If your faith is not very strong, I would find another smaller church, as you will find yourself energetically battling them and distracting you from a true connection to God--this is your worship time.

Satanists, occultists and etc, are in most every church, from leadership to congregation, ALL of the man-made institutions are corrupt.

Carolyn Hamlett talks about her mom even influencing sermons.

Jesuit Rivera talks about the depth of the infiltration here, as well.

Be sure to read your Bible on your own and pray to God for guidance.

Also, DNA complexity shows that "evolution" is the true silly superstition. Walter Veith has some good vids on this.

archeology proves the truth of the Bible over and over again.

researchers have original manuscripts of the New Testament dating back to 50 years after Christ's death?

this, as opposed to Plato, Livy, Caesar, Aristotle, Sophocles and on and on, where the original manuscripts do not exist until 750--1500 years after they were said to be spoken? funny how no one questions the Greeks... who were... pantheists. :)


here's a lawyer who set out to prove the Bible was rubbish and found the contrary to be true:

[link to youtu.be]

hf

Chuck Missler also has some amazing vids on science of God.

:)
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Most Freemasons that I have met are cowards, liars and racists. They also tend to be homosexuals - which makes sense given that they like bending over for their daddy Satan.

They are Satan's brood and willingly breed for Satan. They are the "race of the lawless" spoken of in the Old Testament. They are the "armies" of the Beast.

And, yes, they do try to infiltrate churches, especially the Catholic Church - for Satan knows that the Catholic Church is the only one that actually is vested with Christ's authority.

The Freemasons like to infiltrate a church and then create a scandal in order to drain credibility and coffers.

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freemasons are just a group of men and women who come together and talk about politics,economics,...
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Corinthians 11:14

"And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light"
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Luke 10:18

"And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven"
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Revelation 12:9

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
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Genesis 3:1-24

Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”

And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’”

But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
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What a sheepish person, masons built the nation on sheeps backs. Dont think just pay taxes and if youre scared go to church! Oh youre scared there also- then kill yourself or use your own brain loser!
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33rd Degree Freemasons swear not to reveal the truth about their activities under penalty of death at the hand of their brothers.
 Quoting: LanMan


Fantastic bunch of 'guys'.
Real stand up paragons of the community!

All secret clubs and political parties need to be made illegal like Scientology is in Germany.

Full stop.

Oaths related to murder have no place in a civil society.
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No. They know and are proud of it. They consider themselves 'lucifers' and do evil in secret to gain more power and prestige amongst themselves.

Why do so many people go missing and so many serial killers are never"caught"? The ones that make the news are usually patsies to take the heat off someone else.

Why do cops only have a solved case rate under 50%? Because they don't care and are pushing papers to let their brothers work freely doing great evil. They create so many cop and legal shows to give the sheeple the impression they care when they don't.

Most if not all are child molesters. Not like bad touch. Like torture you with electricity in body cavities so there's no evidence kind of stuff while they whack off and laugh it up in the ecstasy of sadism.

It's true and I'm not exaggerating. My family is into that stuff and I barely got away alive.
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That's what personifies secret society.....just because you are a part doesn't make you an adept. Everyone is chosen and ranked according to their strengths. It has even been said there are many degrees exceeding 33 depending upon the nature of the initiate. Just like the president,he seems to be in power or the pope but behind the shadows there is always people or persons non-elected whose position keeps power throughout their lifetimes. You will never hear of them or see them.......THERE IS A POWER SO ORGANIZED,SOSUBTLE,SO COMPLETE,SO PERSUASIVE,THATTHEY HAD BETTER NOT SPEAK ABOVE THEIR BREATH WHEN THEY SPEAK IN CONDEMNATION OF IT!!....words of President Woodrow Wilson.
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The Masons are not evil. They have been infiltrated by evil but not all are evil.
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The Masons are not evil. They have been infiltrated by evil but not all are evil.
 Quoting: Bambi2U


Who cares if evil or good.

Secret societies and groups with secret oaths are abhorrent to a proper, functioning society.

This is not hard to understand.


A group that secretly conspires to do *good* deeds?
Laughable in the extreme!

Secret groups need to be legislated away.
If they go back underground, you prosecute them wherever they pop up.

Simple.

If you don't do this, keep wondering why your country sucks and specific people get richer while others go poor.

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