The single best Evidence CHEMTRAILs Exist  . . .  

I don't produce any diagrams...

But we know who does...

No Snake produces sugar. . . And I could care less!!!!! . . .

Still can't get it right, even after being schooled...

Pretty much sums up your abilities...

That's what the big boys down at the lodge call him, because "he's oh so sweet."

I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks. . . Sweet Tooth . . .

Sure ya can...

You just can't teach untrainable water head boys like you...

:Pee insult:

Glad to see your very informative thread is still going George. A lot of very good data all in one place!

On a side note, something I found rather interesting...

Noble, the most well known Chemtrail shill on this site, has deleted his account.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Has he failed his masters? Did they fire him? Was it the huge amount of Bad Karma that ran him off? Or is it that he is so well known now that he has awoken to the fact that no one is believing his lies anymore? Does he have a new account? Or did he have a second account all along and has resorted to using it instead of the "Noble" account?

Regardless of the reason why, it is rather interesting and as much as I hope that we have seen the last of Noble I am afraid that this is not the case. I have a feeling he'll be back as an AC or under a new username...

Cheers Noble! My Favorite Chemtrail Shill! Don't feel bad for giving up! It was a losing battle! The TRUTH will be set free! And you are unable to do anything to stop it! Nothing wrong with throwing in the towel!



Last Edited by Rybo on 12/07/2011 02:17 PM

Very interesting . . . he was making sounds lately that he was getting tired of the Thread Wars. . . he was so much of a one trick pony that maybe he just got tired of it and quit . . . or his family asked him to quit because he was taking so much time with it . . . he is most likely addicted and will return in some form or another . . .

Last Edited by George B on 12/07/2011 02:32 PM

There was heavy spraying in the Idaho sunrise this morning.

Some of the thickest trails I have ever seen. And now being afternoon, we have that dreadful haze covering the sky. But I still see them spraying up above the haze.

This is not normal and it has gone on for far too long without any honest answers from those conducting this blanketing upon all of us. And I am afraid it is as you say George, that the Truth abut Chemtrails will only be set free when those conducting these acts decide to come clean. And I don't imagine that this is on their agenda any time soon...

Anybody on Long Island attend this hearing?

Thread: Suffolk Co. NY to hear proposal to BAN CHEMTRAILS

Oh please. Water vapor dissipates in 20 minutes or less in 90% of the time depending on conditions. In NO case does water vapor continuously EXPAND until it fills the sky with a white haze.

None of us wants to be sprayed but please USE YOUR EYES.

I am afraid this may be the first year of our Political Pandemic. In the air they are dumping god only knows what toxins on us. While on the ground they are dumping toxins into our blood with every "vaccination" know to man in increasing amounts.

We are being groomed for the slaughter.

The more and more I read the "Water Vapor" argument in regards to Chemtrails the more I start to believe that the Chemtrail deniers are really blind people. And I mean BLIND not as a metaphor but what the word actually means. "Without Vision". Unbelievable...

I refuse to take their Vaccines and I still have the freedom to do so. But there is nothing in my power to refuse whatever it is they are dumping on us.

Groomed for the Slaughter you say?

I ask why?

Are our numbers now more than they can manage?

Are our natural resources being eaten up at rate that will no longer sustain us on this planet?

Or is something unexpected on its way?

George B.

Trolling shills since '98

Thanks

no shit huh, the only question I ask the chemtrail shills is why are contrails so short and dissolve so quickly, but yet the lines in the sky being sprayed don't dissolve and are very long and spread out like cotton candy,,,,,,,,,,,,

they can't answer that and it shuts'em right up..

12) Motivation by threats: Solar Storms, EMP, global warming, Weather wars & UN treaty against weather wars    6.0% (7)



Solar Weather NASA/SDO
[link to www.popsci.com]

By Clay DillowPosted 10.28.2010 at 1:41 pm20 Comments

Solar Weather NASA/SDO
They’re out there, biding their time. Waiting patiently. And when you least expect it, they’re going to plunge you and everyone you care about into total darkness. Luckily, we can see solar storms coming from about 93 million miles away, and NASA is now in the process of creating a “Solar Shield” that should be able to minimize the damage to power grids caused by electromagnetic disturbances in the atmosphere and ground caused by foul weather on the sun. . . .

But NASA has a plan to battle these blackouts with blackouts. If transformers are offline at the time the storm hits they will not be affected, so the trick is to figure out where and when a storm is going to hit before it reaches the atmosphere. To do that, NASA’s SOHO and two STEREO spacecraft identify a coronal mass ejection (CME) heading toward earth and create a 3-D image of it, allowing researchers to characterize its strength and determine when it will hit.
Depending on the intensity of the CME, the trip from sun to Earth can take 24-48 hours. NASA would track the CME across the sky, with the pivotal moment coming about 30 minutes prior to impact when the storm comes screaming past the ACE spacecraft, something like 930,000 miles from Earth. Sensors aboard ACE gather more data on the storm’s speed, magnetic field, and density that is fed into computer models at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center.
With less than 30 minutes until impact, NASA’s models calculate the places most likely to be impacted with dangerous GIC and utilities are notified so they can pull their grids offline. This will cause a blackout in the region, but only a temporary one. When the storm ends, the grids come back online and life goes on.

[NASA Science News]

Really? What are clouds made of then, and how long to they take to dissipate? Have you ever noticed how cirrus clouds form and can spread out where there are no planes?

Whomever here is this fucking stupid, look up dipshits. Fuck you Noble and Snake. Why do any of you that understand even give these two fuckups any attention. Let em out of the basement

Number one. . . This is not my quote. . . I don't know how that happened. . . .and yes cirrus clouds were first thought to be sheared off of the tops of thunderheads . . . With the advent of aircraft that cruise high enough the vapor trails were implicated into the formation of cirrus cloud banks as well. . . The difference now is the higher probability that these events occur than in the past. . . It has become somewhat of an odd epidemic . . .

look at this UK study .  . [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] . indicated their computer modeling resulted in an estimated Radiative Forcing 5,000 times greater than  average for this  contrail. . .

:C - #13:

Last Edited by George B on 12/07/2011 05:08 PM

You left out my favourite bit of evidence. Heavy systematic shilling of the entire subject.
Always gets my nose twitching.....

Interesting thought . . . The subject does seem to polarize . . . Separating the conspiracy theorists from the skeptics &/or shills, etc. . . .

what about it OP,,,,,,,answer the question,,,,knew you couldn't!

crickets, just crickets, now fukoff with your bs.

In this poll Chemtrail debunkers usually are skeptics. . . Go Figure. . . .

Are you a Conspiracy NUT? . . .Poll . . . You may be a real Conspiracy Nut If . . .
Thread: Are you a Conspiracy NUT? . . .Poll . . . You may be a real Conspiracy Nut If YOU. . . .

Are you a Conspiracy NUT? . . .Poll . . . You may be a real Conspiracy Nut If YOU. . . .
POLL: Are you a Conspiracy nut Poll? . . Choose one response. . .
2.  I believe at least (12) are real. . . Enthusiast   28.3% (64)
1.  I believe at least (6) are real or less . . . Skeptic   23.5% (53)
3.  I believe at least (18) are real. . . GLP Mainstream   23.0% (52)
6.  I believe in all 30 and more. . . Tin Foil Hat Award    14.2% (32)
4.  I believe at least (24) are real. . . Next GLP MOD   8.0% (18)
5.  I believe at least (30) are real. . . Consider Meds   3.1% (7)
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Non-Blank Votes: 226


The (30) conspiracies are listed below . . .

The greatest Conspiracies . . . History's greatest conspiracy theories
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

1) 11 September 2001 WTC Attack . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
2) The assassination of John F Kennedy . . .
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
3) A flying saucer crashed at Roswell in 1947 . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
4) Nasa faked the moon landings. . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
5) The Illuminati and the New World Order . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
6) The Jesus conspiracy - novel (The Da Vinci Code) . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
7) Diana, Princess of Wales, was murdered . . .
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
8) Elvis Presley faked his own death . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
9) Operation Northwoods - A genuine conspiracy involving a plan by the Joint Chiefs of Staff . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
10) MK-ULTRA - The code name for a covert mind-control and chemical interrogation research program . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
11) North American Union . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
12) Shakespeare was somebody else . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
13) The disappearance of Shergar (race horse) On February 8, 1983 . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
14) Paul is dead - “Paul is dead”  replaced by a look-alike and sound-
alike. McCartney’s death . . .  [link to en.wikipedia.org]
15) The July 7, 2005 Tube bombings (London) . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]
16) The Moscow apartment bombings  [link to en.wikipedia.org]
17) Black or unmarked helicopters  [link to en.wikipedia.org]
18) Harold Wilson (British Labor Party Leader)
was a Soviet agent [link to en.wikipedia.org]
19) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion [link to en.wikipedia.org]
20) The peak oil conspiracy [link to en.wikipedia.org]
21) Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen 
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
22) The Philadelphia Experiment - the US Navy destroyer Eldridge was
rendered invisible [link to en.wikipedia.org]
23) Pan Am Flight 103 - Lockerbie in southern Scotland [link to en.wikipedia.org]
24) Fluoridation - Fluoride is commonly added to drinking water [link to en.wikipedia.org]
25) The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami [link to freeinternetpress.com]
26) Plastic coffins and concentration camps - Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) [link to rationalwiki.org]
27) HAARP - Alaska, is the Pentagon's High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program [link to en.wikipedia.org]
28) The Aids virus was created in a laboratory [link to en.wikipedia.org]
29) Global warming is a hoax [link to en.wikipedia.org]
30) Chemtrails. [link to en.wikipedia.org]


more at link
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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Yes it is odd, some bug with nested quoting, see it alot above.

I dont for a moment dispute the link between contrails and high altitude cloud formation. I do believe too much can be made of it, with the conditions conducive to long lasting contrails implicitly being the same for other water vapour to condense and form clouds. Thats for meterology experts.

The link you provide explains the contrail-cloud link very well, and proves that the contrail is in fact water vapour, otherwise the weather models wouldn't work.

So im really more interested in how the AP claims that water vapour dissipates too quickly. I'm sure the meterologist would be interested so they can alter their model (and all meterology). clearly they too are blind to something.

The answer from the scientists is the water vapor and other particulates in the jet aircraft exhaust become seed nuclei or a template for the formation of ice crystals in the supersaturated ambient air which is lacking sufficient particulate of its own to form visible crystals . . . The newer jet engines on long haul craft are almost all high efficiency engines starting in the 1990s until today. . . These engines produce exhausts higher in relative humidity and lower in temperature than the ones they replaced. . .

Thus the higher the likelihood of trail formation and persistence. . . Even in sub optimal air for trail formation. . .

it is not surprising that the particulate or aerosols (especially if they are released through a fuel additive) would act very similarly to a contrail, both being predominately water vapor and combustion products. . . The real question is how different might they act if they had higher concentrations of for example sulfur compounds . . . Than just a regular jet exhaust. . . .

Last Edited by George B on 12/07/2011 05:50 PM

At relatively low levels of sulfur concentrations there was no visual differences in the contrail formation. . . So the question is how far or high can one go in adding more particulates to fuel and then see little or no change to their visibility or persistence in the exhaust trails. . . .


Page 1360 Conclusion very important. . . . Sulfur does not seem to alter contrails based on Appleman. . . . [link to elib.dlr.de]

interesting again, the linked paper from 1995 notes "... the resulting contrail was more than 1km long...". Many chemtrail proponent claim such things didnt exist then, that this is a more recent phenomenom.