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Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/08/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By-the-way . . .none of the trails in the sky from the military photos are from jet aircraft. . . All were taken in WWII. . . All propeller driven craft. . . . Quoting: George B So... they're not contrails, then? What ARE they? Are you the same Menow that hangs with the LoneRanger's Thread Debunking Nancy L. ???? . . . That's me. |
Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/08/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By-the-way . . .none of the trails in the sky from the military photos are from jet aircraft. . . All were taken in WWII. . . All propeller driven craft. . . . Quoting: George B So... they're not contrails, then? What ARE they? Um ... contrails are not "jet exhaust", it's water vapor created by the turbulence caused by the wings of the aircraft. Hence, ANY plane + ripe weather conditions at altitude can cause contrails. Of course. I didn't say they are "jet exhaust". I wanted George to answer that question. Oh.. I think you misspoke. Water vapor is not "created" by the aircraft. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/08/2011 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By-the-way . . .none of the trails in the sky from the military photos are from jet aircraft. . . All were taken in WWII. . . All propeller driven craft. . . . Quoting: George B So... they're not contrails, then? What ARE they? Um ... contrails are not "jet exhaust", it's water vapor created by the turbulence caused by the wings of the aircraft. Hence, ANY plane + ripe weather conditions at altitude can cause contrails. Of course. I didn't say they are "jet exhaust". I wanted George to answer that question. Oh.. I think you misspoke. Water vapor is not "created" by the aircraft. LOL ... is this all you're capable of? Pointing out my "misstating something"? YES, I misspoke ... big fucking deal. EDIT TO ADD: Meh, this was a knee-jerk defensive reply on my part ... sorry. Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 12/08/2011 03:11 PM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/08/2011 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well if nothing else, between the pics on page 10 and the link to research, this thread has conclusivly proved that contrails are not a recent phenomenon. Quoting: Sir Phydeau:I have never said that trails in the sky were a new phenomenon . . . I have stated that the number, frequency, persistence and cirrus cloud banks induced by trails have increased dramatically especially in the last two decades. . . Last Edited by George B on 12/08/2011 05:35 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/08/2011 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By-the-way . . .none of the trails in the sky from the military photos are from jet aircraft. . . All were taken in WWII. . . All propeller driven craft. . . . Quoting: George B So... they're not contrails, then? What ARE they? I don't think we can eliminate the possibility that they are combustion products, oil, wing and control surface vortexes, etc. . . . Would really like to know what altitudes these dogfights were being flown at. . . .no doubt the atmospheric conditions over the battle of the Bulge and Europe during the winter could have been very extreme. . . What?? Control surface vortexes are a momentary phenomenon. Who are you trying to kid? "Oil"? Surely you jest. Those planes could't carry enough oil to do that. "Combustion products"? A contrail IS a "combustion product" or certainly a "combustion byproduct"! Those are CONTRAILS, just like all the ones people see now and think they are a NEW thing. By-the-way, no one here has said that contrails don't exist. . . So why does the existence of contrails since 1915 to present disturb Chemtrail advocates??????. . . Control surface vortices can be much more persistent. . . They can last for miles behind aircraft. . . Page 3 [link to www.adl.gatech.edu] Last Edited by George B on 12/08/2011 06:29 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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gibs User ID: 1099878 United States 12/08/2011 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wondered why all these contraptions they keep putting on combustion engines do nothing except choke the ignition of the gas to be burned cleanly and is gov mandated and is comimg down to where i live with small machines and i see there plan in a cold stark way as it it is evil and for profit and nothing else and i as i will say again, i hope there is a hell for you ignorant fools who should have left us alone and your actions prove to me you are evil incarnate wit what you made the makers put on the machines that make them pollute more and be so more inneffient, all i got to say is you suck exchuast pipes you fools without adjustment! |
Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um ... contrails are not "jet exhaust", it's water vapor created by the turbulence caused by the wings of the aircraft. Hence, ANY plane + ripe weather conditions at altitude can cause contrails. Of course. I didn't say they are "jet exhaust". I wanted George to answer that question. Oh.. I think you misspoke. Water vapor is not "created" by the aircraft. LOL ... is this all you're capable of? Pointing out my "misstating something"? YES, I misspoke ... big fucking deal. EDIT TO ADD: Meh, this was a knee-jerk defensive reply on my part ... sorry. No problemo. |
menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well if nothing else, between the pics on page 10 and the link to research, this thread has conclusivly proved that contrails are not a recent phenomenon. Quoting: Sir Phydeau:I have never said that trails in the sky were a new phenomenon . . . I have stated that the number, frequency, persistence and cirrus cloud banks induced by trails have increased dramatically especially in the last two decades. . . I'm sure Sir Phydeau can speak for himself, but although YOU may not have said that persistent contrails are a new phenomenon, that is one of the CENTRAL claims of most chemtrail proponents. |
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Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we can eliminate the possibility that they are combustion products, oil, wing and control surface vortexes, etc. . . . Would really like to know what altitudes these dogfights were being flown at. . . .no doubt the atmospheric conditions over the battle of the Bulge and Europe during the winter could have been very extreme. . . What?? Control surface vortexes are a momentary phenomenon. Who are you trying to kid? "Oil"? Surely you jest. Those planes could't carry enough oil to do that. "Combustion products"? A contrail IS a "combustion product" or certainly a "combustion byproduct"! Those are CONTRAILS, just like all the ones people see now and think they are a NEW thing. By-the-way, no one here has said that contrails don't exist. No one "here"? I dare say that MOST chemtrail believers see ANY trail in the sky and automatically call it a "chemtrail". . . So why does the existence of contrails since 1915 to present disturb Chemtrail advocates??????. . . Quoting: George B Because MOST ALL of them claim that persistent contrails are a NEW phenomenon. Control surface vortices can be much more persistent. . . They can last for miles behind aircraft. . . Quoting: George B "Miles" equates to a very short amount of time. |
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Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the best evidence is my skies and my eyes. and my burning eyes, runny nose and chemtrail lungs after they shit in the sky. I am also used strong binoculars and seen TANKER PLANES. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Here you go George. Fight it out with this one as to the reality and science surrounding this issue. Her eyes burn from something she claims was "sprayed" in the sky miles above her which wouldn't reach the ground 'till hundreds of miles down wind of her. Heh. |
Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are fucking blind? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667 Sheeze! That anyone has to even take a poll shows the level of mind control and delusional thinking in this fucked up nation. Here's another one, George. He knows they exist because he can seeeeeeee them! This is the true nature of the "chemtrail" believer. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/09/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the best evidence is my skies and my eyes. and my burning eyes, runny nose and chemtrail lungs after they shit in the sky. I am also used strong binoculars and seen TANKER PLANES. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Here you go George. Fight it out with this one as to the reality and science surrounding this issue. Her eyes burn from something she claims was "sprayed" in the sky miles above her which wouldn't reach the ground 'till hundreds of miles down wind of her. Heh. Who is to say what an individual experiences . . . there were possibly trails hundreds of miles away and the trails she saw were possibly and are simply coincidental . . . also, who knows what the fall rates are of the particulates . . . or the altitude the particulates could have been dispersed from . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/09/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are fucking blind? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667 Sheeze! That anyone has to even take a poll shows the level of mind control and delusional thinking in this fucked up nation. Here's another one, George. He knows they exist because he can seeeeeeee them! This is the true nature of the "chemtrail" believer. Were you there . . . did you see what they saw . . . I suggest you are not everywhere at the same time . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/09/2011 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B I don't think we can eliminate the possibility that they are combustion products, oil, wing and control surface vortexes, etc. . . . Would really like to know what altitudes these dogfights were being flown at. . . .no doubt the atmospheric conditions over the battle of the Bulge and Europe during the winter could have been very extreme. . . What?? Control surface vortexes are a momentary phenomenon. Who are you trying to kid? "Oil"? Surely you jest. Those planes could't carry enough oil to do that. "Combustion products"? A contrail IS a "combustion product" or certainly a "combustion byproduct"! Those are CONTRAILS, just like all the ones people see now and think they are a NEW thing. By-the-way, no one here has said that contrails don't exist No one "here"? I dare say that MOST chemtrail believers see ANY trail in the sky and automatically call it a "chemtrail". . . So why does the existence of contrails since 1915 to present disturb Chemtrail advocates??????. . . Quoting: George B Because MOST ALL of them claim that persistent contrails are a NEW phenomenon. Control surface vortices can be much more persistent. . . They can last for miles behind aircraft. . . Quoting: George B "Miles" equates to a very short amount of time. Control surface vortices can be much more persistent. . . They can last for miles behind aircraft. . . Quoting: George B Yes, and miles can equate to from horizon to horizon. . . . Last Edited by George B on 12/09/2011 04:57 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the best evidence is my skies and my eyes. and my burning eyes, runny nose and chemtrail lungs after they shit in the sky. I am also used strong binoculars and seen TANKER PLANES. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Here you go George. Fight it out with this one as to the reality and science surrounding this issue. Her eyes burn from something she claims was "sprayed" in the sky miles above her which wouldn't reach the ground 'till hundreds of miles down wind of her. Heh. Who is to say what an individual experiences . . . there were possibly trails hundreds of miles away and the trails she saw were possibly and are simply coincidental . . . also, who knows what the fall rates are of the particulates . . . or the altitude the particulates could have been dispersed from . . . "Possibly"?! That isn't the point. The POINT is, there is no reasoning with 'chemtards' over the foolishness of their conclusions they reach from their "experiences". She SEES "chemtrails" overhead and has itchy eyes, therefor, the trails she SEES caused her itchy eyes. It's absurd, but if you point that out, you are a "shill". It's been that way from the very beginning and hasn't changes a bit. |
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Menow User ID: 1525529 United States 12/09/2011 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are fucking blind? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667 Sheeze! That anyone has to even take a poll shows the level of mind control and delusional thinking in this fucked up nation. Here's another one, George. He knows they exist because he can seeeeeeee them! This is the true nature of the "chemtrail" believer. Were you there . . . did you see what they saw . . . I suggest you are not everywhere at the same time . . . I can see that this is a waste of my time, since you're going to play the "obtuse" game. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/09/2011 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the best evidence is my skies and my eyes. and my burning eyes, runny nose and chemtrail lungs after they shit in the sky. I am also used strong binoculars and seen TANKER PLANES. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Here you go George. Fight it out with this one as to the reality and science surrounding this issue. Her eyes burn from something she claims was "sprayed" in the sky miles above her which wouldn't reach the ground 'till hundreds of miles down wind of her. Heh. Who is to say what an individual experiences . . . there were possibly trails hundreds of miles away and the trails she saw were possibly and are simply coincidental . . . also, who knows what the fall rates are of the particulates . . . or the altitude the particulates could have been dispersed from . . . "Possibly"?! That isn't the point. The POINT is, there is no reasoning with 'chemtards' over the foolishness of their conclusions they reach from their "experiences". She SEES "chemtrails" overhead and has itchy eyes, therefor, the trails she SEES caused her itchy eyes. It's absurd, but if you point that out, you are a "shill". It's been that way from the very beginning and hasn't changes a bit. People are never the same . . . Some see connections and associations others cannot put together . . . I don't understand some associations either but logic is not always the answer for every person . . Some people are lead by intuition. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States 12/09/2011 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are fucking blind? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667 Sheeze! That anyone has to even take a poll shows the level of mind control and delusional thinking in this fucked up nation. Here's another one, George. He knows they exist because he can seeeeeeee them! This is the true nature of the "chemtrail" believer. Were you there . . . did you see what they saw . . . I suggest you are not everywhere at the same time . . . I can see that this is a waste of my time, since you're going to play the "obtuse" game. Chemtrail advocates fall under a large tent. . . .there are as many opinions as there are people. . . . One cannot agree with everyone, every time but still can understand their fears and concerns. Overall, I maintain CHEMTRAILs exist in some form and until I figure it all out, if possible, I will defend everyones right to their position. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562242 United States 12/21/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 1525529 Here's another one, George. He knows they exist because he can seeeeeeee them! This is the true nature of the "chemtrail" believer. Were you there . . . did you see what they saw . . . I suggest you are not everywhere at the same time . . . I can see that this is a waste of my time, since you're going to play the "obtuse" game. Chemtrail advocates fall under a large tent. . . .there are as many opinions as there are people. . . . One cannot agree with everyone, every time but still can understand their fears and concerns. Overall, I maintain CHEMTRAILs exist in some form and until I figure it all out, if possible, I will defend everyones right to their position. . . . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7506310 United States 12/21/2011 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no evidence currently. The only evidence is visual and that does not distinguish between water vapor or chemicals. Quoting: George B Please do a little research and THINK a little before making such a NWO ass kissing statement. Con trails are composed mostly of ICE crystals. Ice crystals are visible. Water vapor is NOT visible. In about 20 minutes or LESS the ICE crystals normally trans substantiate; they change from the solid state to the gas state directly. Thus ALL evidence that a plane has passed DISAPPEARS. Please WATCH what happens when a chem trail is layed down. In a few hours a large sector of the sky is MILKY white. This white is NOT ice and it is NOT water vapor. What is it? Chemical analysis shows it is barium, aluminum and other metals, chemicals, nano-fibers and other garbage that should not be in our air, water, soil, lungs and body. Please wake up before it is too late. Only the truth can save us from the evil people who control our "government", "military" and "national security organs" and who can kill us at will. [link to panacea-bocaf.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7506310 United States 12/21/2011 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please wake up before it is too late. Only the truth can save us from the evil people who control our "government", "military" and "national security organs" and who can kill us at will. Quoting: George B [link to panacea-bocaf.org] There is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that some of the crap being sprayed on us is designed to weaken our immune systems to prepare us for a higher death rate once they release the Political Pandemic being prepared to MASS murder us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States 12/22/2011 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please wake up before it is too late. Only the truth can save us from the evil people who control our "government", "military" and "national security organs" and who can kill us at will. Quoting: George B [link to panacea-bocaf.org] There is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that some of the crap being sprayed on us is designed to weaken our immune systems to prepare us for a higher death rate once they release the Political Pandemic being prepared to MASS murder us. Keep up the threads, George, we need all the info we can get. It's getting worse everyday. Listened to the jets most of the night and watched them this morning. So far the sun is winning. Until we get that gauzy/filmy haze created by the damn aerosol/contrail/chemtrails covering it up. |