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Comet Lovejoy survives perihelion!

 
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A newly discovered comet is racing toward a mid-December rendezvous with the sun

[...]The comet is categorized by astronomers as a "sungrazer" and it is destined to do just that; literally graze the surface of the sun

[...]While the comet will not collide with the sun, most astronomers say the odds are rather long that it will remain intact after its closest pass by the sun. The most exciting aspect of the event is that the comet's expected destruction should be visible on your computer monitor.

And there is a very slight chance that, should the comet somehow manage to survive, it might briefly become visible in broad daylight

[...]Its official title is C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy). It is Terry Lovejoy's third comet discovery.

[...]Since Comet Lovejoy is the first sungrazer in over-40 years to be discovered en route to the sun with an Earth-based telescope, one might wonder if it will evolve into a memorable spectacle.

[...]Astronomer Gareth V. Williams computed a preliminary orbit for the comet, which indicates that perihelion (closest approach to the sun) will occur at 7 p.m. EST Dec. 15 (00:00 GMT on Dec. 16) at a distance of 548,000 miles (882,000 km) from the center of the sun, meaning that the comet will skim a mere 115,000 miles (186,000 km) above the solar surface, putting it into the special classification of a "Kreutz Sungrazer."

more @ [link to www.space.com]

According to calculations derived from a Minor Planet (MPC) Circular, Comet Lovejoy should enter the LASCO C3 field of view early on December 14 (look for it here), entering from the south.

Also, see below the graph with the expected trajectory as the comet will be close to the Sun.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

This page was created on December 2nd, 2011, the 16th "birthday" of the SOHO satellite, and the day of the announcement of the discovery of a potentially very bright Kreutz-group comet, C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy). This page will chronicle the latest news relating to this discovery of, build-up to, and (hopefully) appearance of this object in the SOHO and STEREO fields of view. Updates won't be daily but they will happen as news filters in...

[link to sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil]

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I think it could knock the sun out of earth's orbit. This could be the big one, fokes.
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BMP
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

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I think it could knock the sun out of earth's orbit. This could be the big one, fokes.
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Wagging the dog
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Baldrick: Well, I had to haggle.
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what's the projected trajectory of this thing AFTER it passes by the sun?
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what's the projected trajectory of this thing AFTER it passes by the sun?
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never mind, found it..

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what's the projected trajectory of this thing AFTER it passes by the sun?
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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
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[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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bump and pin suggested
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I found this post on another forum. It is a dream from a 12 year old boy.


"Hi all...my son just woke up and had another Supermoon dream...here it goes...let me know what you think this is about...We were pulling out of driveway and he looked up and saw scripture in the clouds...he doesn't know which one except that it ended with "...Lord"...he then saw the crescent moon again and the what looked like a star above it...the crescent moon quickly vanished and the star was getting bigger and bigger and it became a GREEN Supermoon!?...It was shining down on the streets and everywhere...he said it was brighter than the sun...he also said that everyone knew that probably the rapture was going to happen....God Bless you all...and Love to you all!!



PS My son wanted everyone to know he was 13...woops guess I was holding on:) He is so special and smart...God bless him, Father! and all our children today and everyday...Thank You Heavenly Father!!!!"
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Ôôôôôô....

O Elenin voltoooooooou!!!

O Elenin voltoooooooou!!!

O Elenin voltoooooooô... ôôôôô!!!!
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Thanks op, interesting
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I think it could knock the sun out of earth's orbit. This could be the big one, fokes.
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Wagging the dog
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can you expand on that ?
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it can fulfill the prohecy of the darkening of the sun and the moon turning red like blood?
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Re: Comet Lovejoy survives perihelion!
Sungrazing comet C/2011 W3 heading toward Sun. Perihelion will come on December 16th at a point just 0.005652 astronomical unit from the Sun's center or about 186,200 km (116,000 miles) from the searing solar surface. Right now comet C/2011 W3 is about 11th magnitude, putting it within telescopic range of far-southern visual observers.

Extreme care is needed due to the comet's small solar elongation angle and close proximity to the Sun in the sky.

[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
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1540UT: This is a good time to add in notes of caution about this object as I don't want this to turn into some "Elenin-like" event whereby folks get whipped up into a frenzy about an object that ultimately does not perform. So here it is: we only have a few rather mediocre observations of this comet, it is still very faint (mag 15), and is already a difficult object to observe due to its location in space. Several possibilities exist now:
1. It could be a huge bright Kreutz, like the "great" comets of the 1880's, or Ikeya-Seki in 1965
2. It could just be a nice bright Kreutz like some of the ones we've seen over the past couple of years in SOHO and STEREO
3. It could be a somewhat large but not altogether enormously bright Kreutz like Comet White in 1945
4. It could be too fragile and disintegrate before it reaches out cameras
If I had to guess, I'd say somewhere between #1 and #2 is what we'll get -- a pretty big, bright Kreutz with a nice bright tail. I base this prediction entirely on speculation and hope.

[link to sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil]
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A comet that could rival comet Ikeya-Seki of 1965? Well it's long overdue. grumpy2
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"Suicide" Comet Storm Hits Sun——Bigger Sun-Kisser Coming?


A recent storm of small comets that pelted the sun could herald the coming a much bigger icy visitor, astronomers say.

Since its launch in 1995, NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, or SOHO, orbiter has captured pictures of 2,000 comets as they've flown past the sun.

Most of these comets are so-called sungrazers, relatively tiny comets whose orbits bring them so near the sun that they are often vaporized within hours of discovery. (See a picture of a sungrazer spied in October.)

The sun-watching telescope usually picks up one sungrazer every few days. But between December 13 and 22, SOHO saw more than two dozen sungrazers appear and disintegrate.

Seeing "25 comets in just ten days, that's unprecedented," Karl Battams, of the United States Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., said in a statement. "It was crazy!"

...........

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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interesting. should be fun to see what happens.
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keep an eye on mabus
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Sungrazing comet C/2011 W3 heading toward Sun. Perihelion will come on December 16th at a point just 0.005652 astronomical unit from the Sun's center or about 186,200 km (116,000 miles) from the searing solar surface. Right now comet C/2011 W3 is about 11th magnitude, putting it within telescopic range of far-southern visual observers.

Extreme care is needed due to the comet's small solar elongation angle and close proximity to the Sun in the sky.

[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6906795


Thread: SIXTEEN <> 16 +++ anyone else "seeing" this number more than usual lately?
+++ with a bunny hat +++
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I think it could knock the sun out of earth's orbit. This could be the big one, fokes.
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This has happened before dumbass lol no it won't

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So I should look directly into the sun with my tele to see this bad boy then? lolollol
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Condition Code 8



Description: MPC "U" parameter: orbit uncertainty estimate 0-9, with 0 being good, and 9 being highly uncertain


hmm
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Remember the huge comet that rammed the Sun and caused it to explode on October 1st?
Huge CME's blowing off the Sun?
Well that one will be nothing compared to this one.
Get Ready

MSNBC has an article about W3 Lovejoy with a pic of that one on the top
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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A comet that could rival comet Ikeya-Seki of 1965? Well it's long overdue. grumpy2
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Traditionally, and with little exception, ground-discovered Kreutz-group comets have gotten bright. Very bright! In 1965, Kreutz-comet Ikeya-Seki was so bright, it could be seen by the naked eye by blocking the Sun out with your hand

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Since it is coming in directly below the Sun from the south we may just see it for a day or so in the northern hemisphere. Those in the southern Hemesphere may see it longer.
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Here is the JPL Model
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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I'm Still waiting to see Nibiru and Comet Elenin.. Maybe they all stopped Mid Galaxy for a cup a tea and small talk b4 wack us..

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