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Anonymous Cowherder Stop the inanity! User ID: 2245483 United States 12/08/2011 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People " Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929! Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be. Restore the Republic. Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements! It's a flower, not something to be feared. - Moo! |
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The Voice In Your Head User ID: 1379486 United States 12/08/2011 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People If indeed a member of the NG is in jail for taking the high road....shame on the mindless fucks that would put him there. There is an obligation to disobey immoral and illegal acts. The very idea of probing troops for a response to such a question speaks to the intent of the people who would order such a question be asked. Last Edited by The Voice In Your Head on 12/08/2011 12:20 PM I'm just a figment of your imagination ;-) |
Revbo™ User ID: 6230228 Norway 12/08/2011 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People If indeed a member of the NG is in jail for taking the high road....shame on the mindless fucks that would put him there. Quoting: The Voice In Your Head There is an obligation to disobey immoral and illegal acts. The very idea of probing troops for a response to such a question speaks to the intent of the people who would order such a question be asked. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
BBQ Guy User ID: 1410244 United States 12/08/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Completely amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think more people are going to realize our own military and law enforcement will be siding with the American people and against the Establishment. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
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Boatsmac User ID: 1539751 United States 12/08/2011 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People strange that I can't link to YouTube dealing with this subject. the Link keeps coming up bad after putting it here. Last Edited by Boatsmac on 12/08/2011 12:55 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6775290 United States 12/08/2011 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People This is outrageous... I just heard from Devon. He was TX’d by his Plt LDR and advised that the Specialist Who first layed down his weapon is being held in county jail by the Bn CMDR, awaiting a hearing under the UCMJ. WTF!!!!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509363 Australia 12/08/2011 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People The fact that the rest of the unit joined him is awesome. That the US seems to be conducting random "tests" asking soldiers if they are willing to shoot their own countrymen is downright disturbing. That the military is weeding out those that would have the balls to turn on their CO if ordered to fire upon civilians... If this somehow gets confirmed...GLP knows the drill with doom |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 12/08/2011 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Not everyone has the courage to stand alone by yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509363 The fact that the rest of the unit joined him is awesome. That the US seems to be conducting random "tests" asking soldiers if they are willing to shoot their own countrymen is downright disturbing. That the military is weeding out those that would have the balls to turn on their CO if ordered to fire upon civilians... If this somehow gets confirmed...GLP knows the drill with doom This. I wonder what the ratio would be of National Guard versus active military as well, would it make a difference? |
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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 1554083 United States 12/08/2011 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266868 United States 12/08/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Couldn't happen. A drilling Guard unit is not a federalized asset. The most they could bring on the specialist would be faliure to obey a lawful order (there was no order given here). The specialist would not be held in a county jail awaiting UCMJ. Pure make belive. I belive the term EDRE went out in the mid 80's. |
Nickadeemus User ID: 6260889 United States 12/08/2011 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Heros ALL! True or not I know the fine men and women of the United States Military will defend the citizens of this nation from all ememies forign or domestic to the end. If it's not true though the OP will burn in hell in a very special fukushima hot place. Good to see you Rev! Nick® Pure Life; Get it on... |
Boatsmac User ID: 1539751 United States 12/08/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Couldn't happen. A drilling Guard unit is not a federalized asset. The most they could bring on the specialist would be faliure to obey a lawful order (there was no order given here). The specialist would not be held in a county jail awaiting UCMJ. Pure make belive. I belive the term EDRE went out in the mid 80's. Well...Waiting for any response. It would be great if more information was presented that would help to lend more of a sound judgement... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483459 United States 12/08/2011 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Completely amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: BBQ Guy I think more people are going to realize our own military and law enforcement will be siding with the American people and against the Establishment. I think you are right...but here is the problem..I dont think our troops would be the ones doing this...In the NORTHCOM agreement, the Canadian or Mexican soldiers would intervene here and our troops would be in either Canada or Mexico |
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ruxpin User ID: 1403355 United States 12/08/2011 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People The scary part of this is that they didn't stand down until another man did. Suppose that man didn't exist in that unit? None of the others would have stood down because it has been shown that most people will do what they have to do if it's in furtherance of their "job" or "duty" or "order". Most people will only stand down when somebody else does, which is scary in itself. I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3919909 United States 12/08/2011 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People True story, no lie but in Jan 09 I enlisted in army active duty and at MEPS when I swore in, one of the sgt's said its a privledge to join the army and he commends the ones standing before him and that "civiliansare stupid"... I was kicked out in basic training for failure to adapt (thank god) Here are a few theories I have. 1. The ones who refuse will be jailed, the ones wanting to re-enlist will have to accept, or they too will be on a list. The remaining soldiers will be their pawns to detain and murder us. 2. It doesn't matter because Chinese troops and Iraq troops are already awaiting orders. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266868 United States 12/08/2011 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People The scary part of this is that they didn't stand down until another man did. Suppose that man didn't exist in that unit? None of the others would have stood down because it has been shown that most people will do what they have to do if it's in furtherance of their "job" or "duty" or "order". Quoting: ruxpin Most people will only stand down when somebody else does, which is scary in itself. This story is a fairy tale, the fact that some organization called oathkeepers supposedly made up of military could make such errors in their story makes me wonder who the hell they really are and what their motive is. The poster who mentioned NORTHCOM is closer to what the real threat would be. The only DoD organiztion that would fire on US citizens is JSOC remember Waco. |
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Revbo™ User ID: 6230228 Norway 12/08/2011 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People Heros ALL! True or not I know the fine men and women of the United States Military will defend the citizens of this nation from all ememies forign or domestic to the end. If it's not true though the OP will burn in hell in a very special fukushima hot place. Good to see you Rev! Nick® You too, dude. I know a few military guys, mostly NG, and to a man, they say they will not turn their weapons on American civilians. Barry's gonna have to get these idiots to do that dirty work. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |