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I dont see how this is going to instantly create multi millionaires and more... Where is the USD going to come from when your 1 dinar (current money) becomes worth $3.44 USD? It is most likely to work like this (dropping the zeros)... so your 100 dinar now, will be worth 1 dinar when the zeros are dropped (it will need to be exchanged) and then if the Dinar goes at $3.44, then I guess you might triple your money... thats it... that is how the reval will work...
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Won't be that high is my guess.

Maybe near 1 to 1

Also the US uses fractional reserve banking or in other words they just make up funds as needed.

No shit...remember the "trillion dollar coin" idea? That was a real plan they had to wipe out the debt...to strike trillion dollar coins.

So if the US would think of doing something so absurd they will have no problem covering such a relatively smaller amount with fractional reserve banking.

Electronic money is just created by keystrokes on a computer and nothing more...no printing press needed.
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Thanks, PIR. I tried to respond earlier, but it looks like my phone is banned from posting. These guys loaned the Euros $16 trillion and we didn't even hear about it for 3 years. There's only, like 1-4 trillion dinars in private American hands. More than $4 trillion gets traded on Forex every single day. Like you said, they create money with keystrokes every day. Hell, they've been buying almost $100 billion a month in garbage mortgage-backed securities for a year now. I think they can handle it. If they can't, get ready for the big econo-doom so many of us have expected around here to come really soon.

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I dont see how this is going to instantly create multi millionaires and more... Where is the USD going to come from when your 1 dinar (current money) becomes worth $3.44 USD? It is most likely to work like this (dropping the zeros)... so your 100 dinar now, will be worth 1 dinar when the zeros are dropped (it will need to be exchanged) and then if the Dinar goes at $3.44, then I guess you might triple your money... thats it... that is how the reval will work...
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Won't be that high is my guess.

Maybe near 1 to 1

Also the US uses fractional reserve banking or in other words they just make up funds as needed.

No shit...remember the "trillion dollar coin" idea? That was a real plan they had to wipe out the debt...to strike trillion dollar coins.

So if the US would think of doing something so absurd they will have no problem covering such a relatively smaller amount with fractional reserve banking.

Electronic money is just created by keystrokes on a computer and nothing more...no printing press needed.
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How many times has it been explained that the 1:1 will be in-country. In addition, US contractors (from out of the country) are already being paid at the $3.44 rate, which Steve has been saying for the past 2 years based on his own personal experience. In addition, as a result of Basii III they set both a bottom and ceiling rate for the various world currencies to float between based on how much in demand it is and it's backed assets. The IQD's ceiling rate is in the double digits. Rather then start the rate off low like the CBI bank will at the $3.44 rate, since there is only 30 days to get this currency collected before Iraq drops the 3 zeros making the currency worthless because they are replacing the old currency with new currency, the banks are going ahead at starting near the ceiling rate for the CE within the US. They will make billions off this CE if they act quickly.

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OKAY THE LATE NIGHT - ITS FROM MTN GOAT AND ITS INTERESTING...

7:20 PM mtn goat:

Hi Everyone, I rarely listen to many other calls besides Tony's, Omega and sometimes Gatekeepers however this weekend I had an opportunity and time to put on the hiking boots, grab the mp3 player and headphones and then head for the mountains for a long alpine hike. Wow cystal clear, blue sky and the outside temp just right I could not resist.

While on the hike it occurred to me how ridiculous some of what I was hearing. I could not believe some of it. My hiking partner kept asking me what I was laughing about the entire hike. she thought I was listening to a comedian. I was afraid to tell her since she does not believe this currency will ever RV. I was compelled to make this post when I reached home. I hope you don't mind it's going to be one of my longer posts.

In particular I want to address or debunk some of what was said on the BGG and Kaperoni's latest calls. I do not like to bash any of the other calls since they bring to the table only what they know or think they know. I do not appreciate anyone bashing me so I will keep this as constructive as I can. So this is not meant to be a bashing for BGG and Kaperoni I do respect them and their hard efforts.

By listening to their calls if you didn't know any better you could get very frustrated, confused, upset and maybe even give up on this investment. I also started getting lots of emails on this forum and most of the questions were, I believe, in regards to these calls. So here goes and I hope I can clarify somethings misstated.

BGG call last week..and I almost quote him as saying something to this effect-
" the Q Card is nothing but a bunch of hype from all these intel providers. It will take them years to activate them. They have been trying for years and its a big mess".

Well kind of sounds a lot like Wang too with the VND doesn't it. Is someone paying them to come out with this intel? Is this the propaganda we should expect that we have been warned about?

I know for a fact and I mean fact that they are spending their money swiping the new biometric IQ SMART cards. I know that there was a meeting last week to decide what to do with Maliki and his oppostion to many of the news laws and the activation of the cards. This was all taken care of and the cards were activated in groupings. The activations began on 8/1 and I have been told yesterday that all the groupings are now done. Go check it out for yourself. Remember going forward this is an ongoing loading for each period for the people so they is going to be constant news telling the people about their money.

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I also know for a fact that the VND is going to revaluate as part of the global currency reset. It is showing a new rate on the bank back screens in the inactive status. It is soon to be pushed to the active status and overlay the old rate so the banks will use it.

Okay here is another one for ya from Kaperoni.

Did you happen to listen to his last call. Unbelievable GA-BAGE! (you fill in the missing letters)

Sorry but you know me better by now. Its hard for me not to laugh when I hear this stuff....

Where in hell do these guys come up with this ? If you believe it all and you get depressed, confused or just plane give up on this investment THAT IS YOUR FAULT FOR BEING SO STUPID!

You would think by now most of us would have some common dinar sense by now. Forgive me if you are a new comer to this. I do not mean you. I think Tony is such a patient person for repeating over and over again the same anwers to questions he just talked about on the call. Do we not listen? Do we not remember? Can't we remember what happened a few months or a year ago?

This RV process is happening right before our eyes. All we have to do is settle down a bit and relax. They are following the established process that the IMF and Dr Shabibi set up. They are executing his plan and they are doing it on their own time table NOT OURS ! Just because what is told to you does not happen tomorrow or the day after does not mean the process has stopped. Its just that no one knows the time table. If someone tells Tony or another intel provider a date or time they are only telling what they heard. Remember the golder rule - NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE OR RATE. If you know this already then apply it and please relax. Don't in your mind force someone to commit to a date or a rate. The RV rollout to the rest of the world is coming they are almost there. Keep reading to find out why.

Kap said Iraq did not RV but in fact are about to soak Iraq with even more US dollars, then later they will use the dollars to sell back for the lower denoms post RV. Good theory..in fact its perfect! It was the exact process that already took place. They operative word is WAS. Does this sound strange to anyone?. Have you heard this before? He also said the banks were the problem with the plan since they keep money laundering USD outside Iraq. Does this also sound familiar. Did we not see articles on new laws and severe penalities for the banks on this topic almost a year ago? Do you think they would have cleaned this up by now?

Well Kaperoni the fact is they already did the first half of this project as you stated! You are months too late on your intel. You read this article to thousands of people. A recycled article and totally confused the heck out of everyone. Again I say to everyone you must remember what was done in the past. Like building a puzzle. You have to remember some of the pieces to fit them together.

During the last 2 years the CBI flooded the market with US dollars to draw in the larger notes and replace them with dollars. This was a huge efffort. The IMF even had articles making some concern that perhaps they were over doing it with too much USD. Remember these articles? Through the winter 2011, thru 2012 and early spring 2013 we saw article after article talking about the success of this move. Why doesn't he read these articles to us on his call? Did he miss these articles? The project WAS called "deleting the zeros project". Does anyone remember? I sent out many emails myself on this topic to everyone explaining it in detail. Is he just trying to stir up more hype or what? Is he trying to get everyone to sell back their dinar and give up?

Kap also said that the IMF agreed with the process and felt the CBI should continue the process at their own discression. Well...they are and they did...its OVER not about to begin as he said! They have done a great job !

Now we can see just how rediculous Kap's intel conference call was. We are prepared and knowledgable. Aren't we?

If Iraq had an RV what is the hold up going international?

Again we must step back. Our frustration in waiting is because we expect this to pop the instant we know Iraq RV'd. WE put ourselves in hour by hour, day by day watch. That is the real problem here. This was not in the plan and here is why.

Post RV in Iraq right now, as I write this post- people in Iraq are taking their dollars and buying the lower denoms cause each dinar now is worth $3.44. They can't just give people FREE money to get the lower denoms unless it's cash out of an ATM from a gov't program. They must exchange something for something...dollars for the lower denoms or credit the money in the bank for later use. They can purchases a hell of a lot more with the dinars than the dollars. The value of their RV is in their purchasing power. I beleive they wanted to wait to activate the cards a bit longer cause they had not sucked in enough of the dollars for lower denoms but it is a hard line to cross since one does not completely work without the other. Now that the citizens have all this money on the cards it will be yet even more difficult to suck in the dollars since they are using dinars and may just ignore the dollars sitting in their chest or drawers at home. Think about it. What they want is ideally to have all the dollars exchanged for the lower denoms or credited to a bank account. (this is the remove the zeroes project)

Just today an article came out from the CBI telling us that the CBI bought more US dollars from the banks in the last 5 days alone than in the last year.

Why? Cause the CBI is buying them back from the banks cause Iraq is going to use dinars not USD

Why? Cause people are trading them in for the new lower denoms dinars worth more

Why? CAUSE THEY HAD AN RV !

Why? Cause that is all in the 5 year plan...go read it.

If you remember this past March- April 2013 I talked about the fact that Iraq was getting ready (very close) to moving on to the "remove the zeros project". This is different than the delete the zeroes project. They follow in sequence. See one and expect the other shortly to follow. Well they now completed the first phase of the deleting the zeroes project and have moved on to begin the phase of removing the zeroes project (to get the lower denoms in circulation). Some thought that they had to do an international RV in order to begin this project but in fact all they really needed was some sort of in country RV. I have heard you people on these calls ask about this too. The intel gurus all said no way so we all just discarded it as a possbility. Well it happened didn't it? So much for listening to these gurus. Follow the process not these gurus advice !

Now they are now in the middle of that project (to remove the zeros). I also said when we read about the CBI sucking in all the US dollars that is a queue for us to turn our attention to this currency going international. They have to pop it out international to suck in all the 3 zero notes from the USA, Canada and any other consumers abroad as part of starting the second phase of deleting the zeros project.

*****Do you understand now what the hold up is?

So what comes next?
I believe in or around 5 more days they will in fact begin this phase (phase II deleting the zeros)

but first they have to complete the removing the zeros project and I described about where they stand on that project.

Let me explain

Next they will want to move on to suck in all our 3 zero notes. This should begin 10 days after the remove the zeros project began. They must first complete this project. We know that for a fact cause articles have told us that the people in IRAQ have 10 days to exchange any 3 zeroe notes for the lower denoms or else they will be no longer any good. The clock started on the 8/1. So if this is all true, and I am hearing it is from Iraq and the IMF, then the earliest we can expect to see our moola is on this coming Saturday 8/10. I said the earliest. Will they extend it? They have extended everyting else so far but I think they will not this time and the only proof I have is the 5 year plan which states the sequence of events.


So in summary - when you and I by turning in (or exchanging) our 3 zero notes this is called the second part or phase 2 of the deleting the zeros project. Remember I talked about this too but that it would not take place until they completed the remove the zeros project in Iraq. Which they are now working on and should be completed soon. They are on day 5 out of 10 days allowed for it. I can not tell you a timeline but am hearing from my sources it is expected to be done in the 10 day period.

I think we are about to see this RV very soon here in the USA. I was spot on when I said they would not let this go past last week. Iraq did begin the process to remove the zeroes and was actually very close to their own timetable.

Just to remind you I have always been 100% spot on and so lets see if I can maintain my track record.....lol....give myself a pat on the back....lol....heck no one else will...not even mien Mann oder Kinder.

I do not go by dates or rates but only sequencial events as my timeline. Remember the golden rule...oops you almost messed up didn't you.....lol....
If I am wrong, I welcome anyone to give me some constructive feedback. This way be can all learn together.
Hope this helped everyone.
Peace and luv to ya all,
Mnt Goat

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I just don't get how Iraqis are being told they must turn in their currency within 10 days... NO news articles. How are they supposed to know to do that? I don't see any evidence of that in the Iraq news. scratching
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I just don't get how Iraqis are being told they must turn in their currency within 10 days... NO news articles. How are they supposed to know to do that? I don't see any evidence of that in the Iraq news. scratching
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That is because the articles do not exist.

Some of this stuff is flat out lies.
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Invalid: delete zeros early next year (playing with fire)

2013-08-06



Alalam

He stressed the former Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, Tuesday, to begin the process of deleting zeroes early next year (playing with fire), noting that the deletion of zeros should be left to the appropriate time.

The appearance of Mohammed Saleh said that the deletion of three zeros from the currency means delete three echelons of records of Republic of Iraq, adding that the decision to delete the zeros in the next year and played very risky, and should be left here to time.

And that we need to reform the management system of the currency and the country's accounting system and this command cannot start until the new fiscal year, but the question is that next year (2014) qualify for this change, and the political situation is so, pointing out that the project to delete zeros is a project to reform cash management, on strong monetary policy stability.

Saleh noted that there are many positive factors conducive to reform currency management system affected by the remnants of the stage of inflation and economic decline experienced by the country, adding that the question of the deletion of zeros does not mean a change in the currency format, but the change of the economic system in the country.

The process of deleting zeros not change fields or monetary obligations, and no change in the origin of wealth or income, but a change of the cracking in the accounting system, today the issue of cracking numbers very difficult, and that the accounting errors in the State, banks and private companies too many because this topic.



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Kaperoni:
I had a feeling the news would be interesting today. Again, we have said that the deletion of zeros is an event which has nothing to do with us. It is when they "officially" flip the switch sort of speak and remove zeros from accounting, etc. This article is simply stating that they should not do that in Jan 2014. Raising the value of the dinar has always been a prerequisite, and we feel the float is still in order very soon.

I added my comments to the above statement to explain..."the question of the deletion of zeros does not mean a change in the currency format (not a redenomination of the banknotes), but the change of the economic system (change in the accounting and way the financial system operates) in the country."

This next statement adds further confirmation of no LOP or redenomination of the dinar we hold...

"The process of deleting zeros not change fields or monetary obligations,.." In other words, we are not changing the currencies value or the obligation of that value. a 25,000 dinar note remains 25,000 dinar.

And lastly, again confirmation that delete zeros is an event..."...but a change of the cracking in the accounting system, ..."

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I just don't get how Iraqis are being told they must turn in their currency within 10 days... NO news articles. How are they supposed to know to do that? I don't see any evidence of that in the Iraq news. scratching
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That is because the articles do not exist.

Some of this stuff is flat out lies.
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Wow, I guess that mean Mtn Goat just told a whopper, to bad as it sounded so good. lol Calin good catch on the lack of news stories. I was sitting here scratching my head after reading the post. And then hit refresh. Fantasy land was fun for a minute. ROFL Some times reality really sucks.
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2013-08-06



Alalam

He stressed the former Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, Tuesday, to begin the process of deleting zeroes early next year (playing with fire), noting that the deletion of zeros should be left to the appropriate time.

The appearance of Mohammed Saleh said that the deletion of three zeros from the currency means delete three echelons of records of Republic of Iraq, adding that the decision to delete the zeros in the next year and played very risky, and should be left here to time.

And that we need to reform the management system of the currency and the country's accounting system and this command cannot start until the new fiscal year, but the question is that next year (2014) qualify for this change, and the political situation is so, pointing out that the project to delete zeros is a project to reform cash management, on strong monetary policy stability.

Saleh noted that there are many positive factors conducive to reform currency management system affected by the remnants of the stage of inflation and economic decline experienced by the country, adding that the question of the deletion of zeros does not mean a change in the currency format, but the change of the economic system in the country.

The process of deleting zeros not change fields or monetary obligations, and no change in the origin of wealth or income, but a change of the cracking in the accounting system, today the issue of cracking numbers very difficult, and that the accounting errors in the State, banks and private companies too many because this topic.



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Kaperoni:
I had a feeling the news would be interesting today. Again, we have said that the deletion of zeros is an event which has nothing to do with us. It is when they "officially" flip the switch sort of speak and remove zeros from accounting, etc. This article is simply stating that they should not do that in Jan 2014. Raising the value of the dinar has always been a prerequisite, and we feel the float is still in order very soon.

I added my comments to the above statement to explain..."the question of the deletion of zeros does not mean a change in the currency format (not a redenomination of the banknotes), but the change of the economic system (change in the accounting and way the financial system operates) in the country."

This next statement adds further confirmation of no LOP or redenomination of the dinar we hold...

"The process of deleting zeros not change fields or monetary obligations,.." In other words, we are not changing the currencies value or the obligation of that value. a 25,000 dinar note remains 25,000 dinar.

And lastly, again confirmation that delete zeros is an event..."...but a change of the cracking in the accounting system, ..."

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Saleh is not holding a position in any authority in Iraq.

In fact, he was removed under threat of arrest for money laundering.

Saleh's opinion is just that and has zero weight upon what the current leadership in the CBI will do.

This no is different than if Bernie Madoff wrote an opinion piece on what he thinks current US monetary policy should be.

So as far as valid I consider the source of this article (Saleh) to have zero credibility within the influence of Iraqi economic policy at this time.

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Well, yeah, but in fairness to Saleh, it was Maliki's government that arrested him and held him for months before releasing him. Not exactly a good comparison to Madoff, as it was never proven Saleh did anything wrong. To me, it would be more like a statement from Alan Greenspan. Certainly not authoritative, considering he doesn't work for CBI anymore, but I wouldn't say his remarks have no weight at all.
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I just don't get how Iraqis are being told they must turn in their currency within 10 days... NO news articles. How are they supposed to know to do that? I don't see any evidence of that in the Iraq news. scratching
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That is because the articles do not exist.

Some of this stuff is flat out lies.
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Some?

Exactly Calin, it would be all over the news there. You have ten days or your money is worthless? Everyone would be going nuts over there. There would be videos of lines 100 deep at every bank.

Even them saying contractors are getting paid $3.44. Somebody would have real proof and it would be all over the Dinar sites.

The pumping has been nuts since chapter 7 release. They are really messing with people. Patience is the key to this investment. Sadly I think we've still got a ways to before we see the light at the end of this tunnel. Hope I'm wrong.
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Topic: *********** CALL WITH TNT TONY TODAY AT 10:00 AM PT, 1PM ET
9:14 AM [TNTDINAR] Good Morning. I talk to everyone in about 1 hr. Great news, Great news....... **************** some technical problems.. will start in a few minutes.


TNTDINAR TONY POSTED: I will be doing a live update call at our regularly scheduled time (1:00 est). We will be using the new call-in numbers and [link to www.blogtalkradio.com] will be live. Lots of good news today, see you there.

BTW - Mt. Goat does not lie and used to be the ex Wells Fargo District Director. What fiscal experience and contacts do you have?

I also know for a FACT via personal contact that the contractors are being paid $3.44 an hour. sigh

Why do I bother?

Loechin was on OMC about an hour ago. He was very upbeat. Said as of last night at 8 pm (he was working with wf people directly), rates for the lowest dinar holders (tier 3) is above $11. It sounded to me like he was talking street rate since he will not impart any specific information about his group's plan. Didn't say how much higher. He said the tier 1 holders rates were phenomenal (the largest dinar holders). He also said that to take the 800 numbers seriously as he knows that wf is streamlining the offer and throwing in more perks. He was very excited, to say the least.

[Jester] AND ANOTHER INDICATOR I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY MENTIONED IN THE POST... THE BOND REDEMPTIONS STARTED ON SCHEDULE YESTERDAY... THIS CANNOT GO ON MUCH LONGER WITH THAT GOING ON... GOOD NEWS FOR SURE

8:49 AM [q] Jester Do you think what's happening in the ME at present will have any impact on the RV happening?

8:53 AM [Jester] IT IS AN INDICATION OF HOW BAD THINGS ARE IN THE WORLD... THAT IS WHY THIS NEEDS TO GET DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE...


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Topic: *********** CALL WITH TNT TONY TODAY AT 10:00 AM PT, 1PM ET
9:14 AM [TNTDINAR] Good Morning. I talk to everyone in about 1 hr. Great news, Great news....... **************** some technical problems.. will start in a few minutes.


TNTDINAR TONY POSTED: I will be doing a live update call at our regularly scheduled time (1:00 est). We will be using the new call-in numbers and [link to www.blogtalkradio.com] will be live. Lots of good news today, see you there.

BTW - Mt. Goat does not lie and used to be the ex Wells Fargo District Director. What fiscal experience and contacts do you have?

I also know for a FACT via personal contact that the contractors are being paid $3.44 an hour. sigh

Why do I bother?

Loechin was on OMC about an hour ago. He was very upbeat. Said as of last night at 8 pm (he was working with wf people directly), rates for the lowest dinar holders (tier 3) is above $11. It sounded to me like he was talking street rate since he will not impart any specific information about his group's plan. Didn't say how much higher. He said the tier 1 holders rates were phenomenal (the largest dinar holders). He also said that to take the 800 numbers seriously as he knows that wf is streamlining the offer and throwing in more perks. He was very excited, to say the least.

[Jester] AND ANOTHER INDICATOR I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY MENTIONED IN THE POST... THE BOND REDEMPTIONS STARTED ON SCHEDULE YESTERDAY... THIS CANNOT GO ON MUCH LONGER WITH THAT GOING ON... GOOD NEWS FOR SURE

8:49 AM [q] Jester Do you think what's happening in the ME at present will have any impact on the RV happening?

8:53 AM [Jester] IT IS AN INDICATION OF HOW BAD THINGS ARE IN THE WORLD... THAT IS WHY THIS NEEDS TO GET DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE...

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Edited from CC. Go to blogtalkradio.com/tntdinarfor today's call recording


Tony: Just find our car keys and get ready to go.
Good morning. This is TNT.


It was exciting last night. Last night I got a call that there were trucks riding up and down the streets in Iraq in 3 different regions and telling people that today is the day that Iraq goes International. They were waiting for the banks to open. In the mosques this morning there was an announcement made and it states today will be a global force today the economy and people will be the strongest in the world. People were spending money there left and right. People are in a buying frenzy and the people are even wanting to buy stuff at the dock. Their cards are activated and international as of today. We are ready. It is our turn. There is still media blackout. Bank people here have been given a time. The rate is live down to the teller window. It can’t be processed until they see the time. The banks have the code but no authorization. There is one bank in CA that has actually asked someone to come in to do this. We’re waiting - were given a time and I’m anticipating this. It’s been 12 hours already that they’ve been told that it’s an international call.

Received this info from Iraqi USA folks, Government agencies, it’s live in Iraq and the IMF has released it. Everyone is being told that it will be sometime today. Will get reinfored about the 30 days (to cash in) today. After today will tell you what the rates of the 3 tiers are. The rate in Iraq, right now today in country is $3.44. Our rate is going to be significantly higher (double digits). They just want you to go to the bank and cash out quickly.

[q] Can you tell us the teller rate?

I can tell you that’s it a double digit rate.

This morning the dong was at 92cents.

Already have compiled a list of the next currencies to RV that will give out after the RV.

Some banks will give you some of your CE and then you a number to call for the rest. You can cash out all in one bank and then move it to other banks.

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This guy, Sharistani, was Maliki's right hand man, and the scumbag primarily responsible for $40B spent and almost no improvement in the electric service in Iraq. That's what happens when you get in bed with a guy like that, Nuri.

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source close to the Deputy Prime Minister Hussein al-Shahristani, submit a request to the National Alliance for the disqualification of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. said the source, who declined to be named, said the head of the independent Mr. Hussain al-Shahristani has sent a request to the President of the National Alliance, Mr. Ibrahim al-Jaafari call an emergency meeting National Alliance to discuss the request bloc to withdraw confidence from the Prime Minister and a coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki. , and pointed out that al-Shahristani said in the request for disqualification of al-Maliki that the latter bears the responsibility of legitimacy and moral and legal responsibility for an accident smuggling al-Qaeda leadership of Abu Ghraib prison and the subsequent death of a large number of soldiers and guests Being the only man in Iraq, which has the reins of file security collapsed. The source said al-Shahristani, attach a document leaked to the media shows that the security forces had prior knowledge of the date of the attack on Abu Ghraib prison and the outline of smuggling hardened terrorism and even the names of officers involved in this process as well as pointed out the process of transferring some of the killers of al-Qaeda and condemned to death in prison shortly before the puppet smuggling and Mr. al-Maliki and organs did not take any precautionary measure.



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Edited from CC. Go to blogtalkradio.com/tntdinarfor today's call recording


Tony: Just find our car keys and get ready to go.
Good morning. This is TNT.


It was exciting last night. Last night I got a call that there were trucks riding up and down the streets in Iraq in 3 different regions and telling people that today is the day that Iraq goes International. They were waiting for the banks to open. In the mosques this morning there was an announcement made and it states today will be a global force today the economy and people will be the strongest in the world. People were spending money there left and right. People are in a buying frenzy and the people are even wanting to buy stuff at the dock. Their cards are activated and international as of today. We are ready. It is our turn. There is still media blackout. Bank people here have been given a time. The rate is live down to the teller window. It can’t be processed until they see the time. The banks have the code but no authorization. There is one bank in CA that has actually asked someone to come in to do this. We’re waiting - were given a time and I’m anticipating this. It’s been 12 hours already that they’ve been told that it’s an international call.

Received this info from Iraqi USA folks, Government agencies, it’s live in Iraq and the IMF has released it. Everyone is being told that it will be sometime today. Will get reinfored about the 30 days (to cash in) today. After today will tell you what the rates of the 3 tiers are. The rate in Iraq, right now today in country is $3.44. Our rate is going to be significantly higher (double digits). They just want you to go to the bank and cash out quickly.

[q] Can you tell us the teller rate?

I can tell you that’s it a double digit rate.

This morning the dong was at 92cents.

Already have compiled a list of the next currencies to RV that will give out after the RV.

Some banks will give you some of your CE and then you a number to call for the rest. You can cash out all in one bank and then move it to other banks.
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He said one mosque in the Kurdistan region announced... "they will be a global force today... the economy and the people will be the strongest in the world."

This sounds familiar... haven't they been saying that in the news all the time?

He wants us to go on Facebook to verify that the people are spending money today. I DON'T DO Facebook!!! So I can't verify this myself.

He says there is a media blackout, so how do they tell the people? Mosques?

He is saying today. He did get a time and it is 45 minutes past that time. hmmm...


Not done listening...
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Then, a lady said her contact in Europe (I think she said) is telling her the cards are loaded and are able to be used. ...

And...so... that is just fine, but that is not saying an RV occurred. The cards were supposed to be loaded and used by the people. Nothing new.

Tony laughed when someone asked about the prosperity packages. He is joking about it.

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opps.. 5 minutes later he changed it to maybe not today...
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Hey Roy,
I got your PM. Sorry, man. I let my paid subscription go, so I can't respond. You can email me at [email protected], though.
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Interesting blog from Jester. BTW Poof used to live in Hawaii before he recently died. Zap took over for Poof in his place.

Jester Thoughts and Intel at I4U Tuesday Morning
08/06/2013


HI CASTLE MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, AND CRITTERS… HOPE YOU ARE ALL DOING WELL THIS MORNING…

JUST WANTED TO STOP BY AND LET YOU KNOW WE ARE STILL OUT HERE WORKING HARD FOR YOU…

SOME REAL WORLD INDICATIONS OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD ARE CONTINUING TO SHOW… LOOK UP ERITREA… A SMALL COUNTRY JUST ACROSS THE RED SEA FROM SAUDI ARABIA HAD AN INCREDIBLE CURRENCY ADJUSTMENT OF 44.65% YESTERDAY IN RELATION TO THE USD…

THIS IS A HUGE INCREASE BY ANYONE’S RECKONING… THE INCREASE IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF UNTAPPED MINERAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO USE FOR THEIR CURRENCY VALUATION IN THE NEW SYSTEM…

THIS IN AN INDICATION AND A PRECURSOR OF THINGS TO COME AND A REAL WORLD INDICATOR THAT IT IS HAPPENING NOW…

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME OTHER INDICATORS TOO… LET’S REFER TO ZAP’S POST A MINUTE… I LIKE ZAP… HE IS TIED INTO THE CHINESE FAMILY DUE TO SOME WORK HE DOES FOR THEM…

HE KNOWS STUFF… AND SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO FIGURE OUT BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO… NOW THE POST WAS MADE ON SATURDAY… YOU MUST KEEP THAT IN MIND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS POSTED SUNDAY…

ZAP SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON SUNDAY… I BELIEVE HE WAS RIGHT… BUT THINGS CHANGE AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID…. AND IT DIDN’T HAPPEN…

I THINK THE REASON IT DIDN’T HAPPEN WAS BECAUSE HE WAS PREDICTING THE EMAIL INSTRUCTIONS WOULD GO OUT SUNDAY… AND WHEN THE SERVER POOPED ITSELF AND WENT DOWN THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN…

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT CAUSED THE ANNOUNCEMENT (INSTRUCTIONS) NOT TO GO OUT ON SUNDAY… BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF SOURCES SAYING IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY TOO… GOOD SOURCES THAT GIVE US A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION WERE ALL CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THE PROBLEM...

ALL THIS BICKERING ABOUT THE EMAIL GROUP AND THE WF DEAL HAS TICKED THE CHINESE OFF… PEOPLE ARE MESSING WITH THEIR DEAL TO GET THE OIL CREDITS…

WHAT WAS ONCE A SIMPLE EMAIL AND 800 NUMBER AND EXCHANGE PROCESS HAS BEEN ATTACKED BY A LOT OF OTHER GREEDY PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES… THEY ARE TRYING TO CUT THEMSELVES IN FOR A PIECE OF THE ACTION… GREED… SIMPLE AS THAT…

THEY ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU… THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MARKET SHARE AWAY FROM THE EMAIL GROUP TO WORK A DEAL FOR THEMSELVES…

SO THE EDICT CAME DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS AN EMAIL… IF I WAS MARKETING THE DEAL I WOULD WANT THAT… MAKE SURE EVERYONE THAT I COULD GOT THE CORRECT INFORMATION IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER BS GOING OUT… SO THEY DID JUST THAT… ASKED EVERYONE THAT WANTED IN THE DEAL TO SIGN UP…

AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER REASONS LIKE WANTING TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE GROUP AND WHERE THEY ARE SO PLANS COULD BE MADE FOR STAFFING AND OTHER ISSUES… BUT ANYWAY THE REQUEST WAS MADE…

SO BLAME IT ON ALL THE DANG YA-HOOS MESSING AROUND WITH CHINA’S DEAL…. IF IT WAS ME I WOULD BE TICKED TOO… THAT IS THE REASON THEY ARE DOING ALL THIS… OIL CREDITS…

I BELIEVE THAT THOSE THAT ARE PROMOTING THE CONTINUATION OF THIS CONFUSION ARE PROLONGING OUR AGONY AND NEED TO BACK OFF… IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT HAS ALREADY CAUSED A PROBLEM… IT NEEDS TO STOP… THAT IS MY OPINION AND I AM STICKING TO IT…

YOU WERE ALL WARNED THAT THERE WOULD BE THOSE THAT WOULD COME IN AT THE END AND TRY TO LEAD YOU ASTRAY… AND THAT IS A LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW…

PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN AGENDAS COMING IN AND TRYING TO GET THEIR MARKET SHARE FOR WHATEVER REASON… USE YOUR OWN DISCERNMENT ON WHAT YOU ARE SEEING…

WE NEED TO GET THIS BICKERING UNDER CONTROL… WE NEED TO GE THINGS SETTLED DOWN… RIGHT NOW THERE IS A LOT OF WORRY ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE BANKS AFTER THE FACT…

THEY WANT IT TO BE AN ORDERLY EXCHANGE… THEY DO NOT WANT EVERY YO-YO IN TOWN RUSHING THE BANK AND HAVE A BUNCH OF PANDEMONIUM GOING ON…. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE AFRAID OF…

NOW DON’T DESPAIR…

IF WE GO BACK TO ZAP’S POST SOME OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS COME OUT… WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CHINESE ARE FOND OF NUMBERS… THE REFERENCE TO THE 8TH BEING A NUMBER OF PROSPERITY AND THE 9TH BEING A NUMBER OF FINALITY… I LIKE THAT THOUGHT…

THE 8TH HERE IS THE 9TH IN CHINA… WHAT A NICE LINEUP TO THINK THAT ON THE 8TH A LOT OF PROSPERITY TAKES PLACE AT THE SAME TIME ON THE 9TH THEIR WORK IS DONE IN CHINA… THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE FINISHING UP HERE…

I KIND OF LIKE THAT PREDICITON...

AND WE SEE CERTAIN PEOPLE LINED UP AND SCHEDULED TO THAT END… THEY ARE READY TO GET THIS DONE WHEN THE WORD IS GIVEN… THEY WANT THIS DONE AS MUCH AS WE DO… THERE IS A LOT OF SUFFERING IN THE WORLD AND THEY ARE AWARE THAT IT IS GETTING WORSE… DOES NOT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT… TURN ON THE TV…

I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CLOSE TO OUR BLESSING AND AGREE WITH THE TIMELINE THAT ZAP POSTED AT THIS TIME… AS ALWAYS… THINGS CAN CHANGE… WE NEED TO ACT RIGHT AND DO OUR PART… BE CALM AND QUIT RUNNING AROUND WAVING YOUR ARMS LIKE YOUR HAIR IS ON FIRE.. BE PART OF THE SOLUTION INSTEAD OF PART OF THE PROBLEM…

HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE… IT IS WHAT IT IS…

AS ALWAYS... THANK
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I didn't see anything about ERITREA currency adjusting like that. Can someone find a news article about this. That would be interesting.
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I didn't see anything about ERITREA currency adjusting like that. Can someone find a news article about this. That would be interesting.
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Here's the chart.

[link to www.xe.com]

There's a little something to it, but no 45% RV yesterday. It started climbing around March and it's gone from about 6 cents to about 9.5 cents, which would be close to a 50% gain in four months, or so. Damn, wish I had bought me some Nafkas a while back. chuckle

See my previous post, Roy.

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I didn't see anything about ERITREA currency adjusting like that. Can someone find a news article about this. That would be interesting.
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Here's the chart.

[link to www.xe.com]

There's a little something to it, but no 45% RV yesterday. It started climbing around March and it's gone from about 6 cents to about 9.5 cents, which would be close to a 50% gain in four months, or so. Damn, wish I had bought me some Nafkas a while back. chuckle

See my previous post, Roy.
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Yeah who even ever heard of them. to bad the RV story was false.

Which post Revster?

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I didn't see anything about ERITREA currency adjusting like that. Can someone find a news article about this. That would be interesting.
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Here's the chart.

[link to www.xe.com]

There's a little something to it, but no 45% RV yesterday. It started climbing around March and it's gone from about 6 cents to about 9.5 cents, which would be close to a 50% gain in four months, or so. Damn, wish I had bought me some Nafkas a while back. chuckle

See my previous post, Roy.
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Yeah who even ever heard of them. to bad the RV story was false.
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I'm still not convinced Eritrea is a real place, so I'm calling...

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I didn't see anything about ERITREA currency adjusting like that. Can someone find a news article about this. That would be interesting.
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Here's the chart.

[link to www.xe.com]

There's a little something to it, but no 45% RV yesterday. It started climbing around March and it's gone from about 6 cents to about 9.5 cents, which would be close to a 50% gain in four months, or so. Damn, wish I had bought me some Nafkas a while back. chuckle

See my previous post, Roy.
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Yeah who even ever heard of them. to bad the RV story was false.
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I'm still not convinced Eritrea is a real place, so I'm calling...

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hahaha Well when I goggled it I did see a woman and a donkey with a basket. so that's enough for me.

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Here's the chart.

[link to www.xe.com]

There's a little something to it, but no 45% RV yesterday. It started climbing around March and it's gone from about 6 cents to about 9.5 cents, which would be close to a 50% gain in four months, or so. Damn, wish I had bought me some Nafkas a while back. chuckle

See my previous post, Roy.
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Yeah who even ever heard of them. to bad the RV story was false.
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I'm still not convinced Eritrea is a real place, so I'm calling...

bsflag
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Well when I goggled it I did see a woman and a donkey with a basket. so that's enough for me.
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laugh

Well, they would have women, donkeys and baskets in a place called Eritrea. OK, I believe.

Incidentally, were the women riding the donkeys with the baskets balanced on their heads with no hands, 'cause that's how I see women and baskets getting around in Eritrea.

Was that racist?

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How come Adam at DV is not talking about an RV in country? All is quiet there.

ReV, quiet on the site you mod for?
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There is this at DV though...


Posted Today, 02:13 PM

I talked with my army friend over there in Iraq , and none of what the gurus are saying is actually happening

no dancing in the streets , no signs posted in banks , no buying frenzies etc etc. it is normal daily life for them

except the tv and radio is talking about the removal of the zeros , and how this will affect them .

and the usual political infighting among them. this is a big process as it affects everything .

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How come Adam at DV is not talking about an RV in country? All is quiet there.

ReV, quiet on the site you mod for?
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Not really quiet, but no movement in the rate.

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How come Adam at DV is not talking about an RV in country? All is quiet there.

ReV, quiet on the site you mod for?
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Not really quiet, but no movement in the rate.
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What is the buzz there? Anything good to bring over?
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