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As you know, I've been interested in this Economic Reform law the CoM passed last week since it passed, and even remember, back in December and January, thinking, "Why the hell have these guys not passed an economic reform law and freed up their economy yet? Why didn't they do it back in 2003?" Well, today, my dad started Googling "Iraq Economic Reform" and I think he found my answer. It appears we DID impose economic reform on them back in 2003, but it didn't take. Apparently, it's against international law to force prosperity on these idiots, so we've had to wait for them to do it democratically. Read this wikipedia entry on Iraq Economic Reform. It's a real eye-opener.


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One bump so it doesn't get lost. Y'all, I really think this is what we're waiting on. So much so I have decided I'm not buying any more dinars or reserves until this law shows up on the parliament's agenda. If Bremer's reforms had been allowed to go through, Basra and Baghdad would already look like Dubai.
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Nutmeg if you're reading this thread, sorry I can't reply to PM without a full member account. Here is my reply.

Well it's not a scam in the sense that it is a legit currency investment, but I would stay away from it. The RV is always "just around the corner", but it never materializes. If I had 1k to invest now, it would go into physical silver.

Good luck in whatever decision you make on this. hf
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Jester Per ZAP today "THERE ARE ABOUT 0.3 GRAMS OF GOLD BACKING EACH DINAR". That alone would put the Dinar value at about $14 - not including other Assts! Seems like agood justifiation for a two-digit rate!

Tony's CC call today.

TNT: Tony’s CC Monday 1PM EST:
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Over the weekend Okie put out a post about 97 countries RVing. I called my own souces via Washington, DC who confirmed that is exactly what is going on. I can tell you the system has started and is running and I'm getting it from the system itself. No one else is going to see it until it goes live. Proof is when the RV is here. The moment it becomes public it will be there for everyone to see. CNN won't report it during the process. Folks are getting high up info during the process ahead of the curve. Dong rate is over $3 this morning. Double digits for the dinar from $3.44 (in Iraq) up to $18 (in the US). It's still double digits. Start time for the 30 days is when the RV is announced. Appointment is made on zip code. The agreement has been met, rate set and when it gets to where it needs to be we'll all be jumping for joy. Doesn't make a difference if you are not a citizen.. you can still cash out at the bank in the US if you're in the US. This is not a private exchange for the first 30 days.. why would they be rushing if it was only going to be private for the first 30 days. One bank actually sees it (IQD rate) moving, in motion right now. It's showing as a live rate but they need authorization to pay it out. Both rates went up since Friday. All the banking people are in looking for it. Tony confirmed the rate at 3 different banks. They're just waiting for the authorization code. They (TNT) have a TEXT that will go out… folks can sign up for the text and get the RV text. The initial rate will be in it after the updated info from the banks is obtained so he can give it to us.
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Please let it be so.
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I second this wish...

This stuff seems to be getting more exciting, and things seem to be building to a point of no return. If things aren't happening as Tony is describing, if that's a load of bs, well, you know he will never be trusted again. Seems like a lot of people putting it all on the line...

Interesting times indeed.

peace
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$3.44 to $18.... Not believing it!
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I'm not buying it at all as I have kept a close eye on the SDR site and there is absolutely nothing to back up anything tony or okie said.
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SDR site?
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E1 (Eagle1) reported that the ForEx made a strong attempt to get the 198 global currencies loaded last night but there was a problem, E1 doesn’t know what was the problem, and supposedly they were able to get it done at 6:30 am today; the IMF is antsy to get this done, and E1’s information is that if it’s not done by Wednesday, he believes the IMF will take action • E1 also reported that suddenly, his IMF sources have gone dark • E1 said he has not seen the ForEx this active on a Sat/Sun as they were this weekend, and Frank agreed, he has not seen this kind of activity before; Eagle1 stated his source reported: all currencies are poises at the edge of a precipice, waiting for a bridge to cross to new territory.

• E1 spoke with Wells Fargo today and Wells Fargo said if we are exchanging IQD (after the RV) and deposit in a 0-balance, non-interest bearing account, they will treat it as a TAG account, and it will be protected from the devaluation of the USD on Oct 8; this is not in writing yet, but this is HUGE!



Kenya from Stage2Omega that has 30 years banking experience said on a call - "Basil compliance brings asset backed resources to our money so we will be the ones to usher in the new money. The UST (TRN – Treasury Notes) will now back our money. The IQD will be paid in the new UST. " She also emphasized that we can't comingle it with any other currency. Eagle1 was on Frank's call and he said he spoke at length with a WF rep that said the same thing basically. Doing this as will protect us from the potential drop in the USD (decreased buying power) that will take place in Oct. once new Treasury notes are introduced.

TNT Chat: [loechin] Spoke to some of my guys all are looking for anytime now that we should be close to the end of the 191 countries

Just an FYI for those holding dinar outside of the country. From the intel going around it seems if you CE outside of the US the rate will be the same as the Iraq international rate of $3.44. The US negotiated a special (much higher rate) for those inside of the US to quickly gather in as many IQD before they become worthless after the 30 day CE window as Iraq is getting rid of all it's 3 zero currency to prevent fraud or money laundering by those inside of Iraq sending currency into the US for a CE.

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SDR site?
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Sorry, meant The sdr's on the IMF site. Currencies updated daily. Still hoping one day Iraq will be added to the list. Here is the link:
[link to www.imf.org]
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Just posted on fb by Phoenix

"Major economic and banking things ongoing in the United States and Iraq behind closed doors at this time . Appears to be a coordination of sorts. Details forthcoming..."

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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CBI website is down right now too.
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I don't use facebook...what does it say?
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It was covered on tonight's show in great detail went into a lot of info with the callers also GOOD STUFF!:

Link: [link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

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Just posted on fb by Phoenix

"Major economic and banking things ongoing in the United States and Iraq behind closed doors at this time . Appears to be a coordination of sorts. Details forthcoming..."

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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CBI website is down right now too.
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I don't use facebook...what does it say?
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It was covered on tonight's show in great detail GOOD STUFF!:

Link: [link to www.blogtalkradio.com]
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I like Phoenix...no frills or guru B.S., just straight clean honest info. Stryker is another good one for factual info. as well.
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PIR got a question for ya. What do you think Phoenix was hinting at and alluding to us that we should be looking for. He stated we could see 2 of the 3 things.....any ideas on what the 3rd is???
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PIR got a question for ya. What do you think Phoenix was hinting at and alluding to us that we should be looking for. He stated we could see 2 of the 3 things.....any ideas on what the 3rd is???
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The third thing was something he has been hinting about for weeks that he has had on his calender that began today.

He said the two things we can see are the two meetings that took place in Iraq and the US today and the third thing is the "event" he has known about for weeks that was to start today.

Said something to the effect of the two that are seen are governmental but the third unseen event is something corporate but all three are connected and all three related to the "surprise" the CBI is about to come out with.

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PIR got a question for ya. What do you think Phoenix was hinting at and alluding to us that we should be looking for. He stated we could see 2 of the 3 things.....any ideas on what the 3rd is???
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The third thing was something he has been hinting about for weeks that he has had on his calender that began today.

He said the two things we can see are the two meetings that took place in Iraq and the US today and the third thing is the "event" he has known about for weeks that was to start today.

Said something to the effect of the two that are seen are governmental but the third unseen event is something corporate but all three are connected and all three related to the "surprise" the CBI is about to come out with.
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I must say after his call I am getting a bit excited :) I am going to look back through his notes and see if I can't find what he has hinted at. Looks like between now and the 22nd something may come about :)

I think he is waiting on a CBI announcement. But that may just be hopium kickin in. Gotta stay grounded, so I won't get me hopes up.
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PIR got a question for ya. What do you think Phoenix was hinting at and alluding to us that we should be looking for. He stated we could see 2 of the 3 things.....any ideas on what the 3rd is???
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The third thing was something he has been hinting about for weeks that he has had on his calender that began today.

He said the two things we can see are the two meetings that took place in Iraq and the US today and the third thing is the "event" he has known about for weeks that was to start today.

Said something to the effect of the two that are seen are governmental but the third unseen event is something corporate but all three are connected and all three related to the "surprise" the CBI is about to come out with.
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I must say after his call I am getting a bit excited :) I am going to look back through his notes and see if I can't find what he has hinted at. Looks like between now and the 22nd something may come about :)

I think he is waiting on a CBI announcement. But that may just be hopium kickin in. Gotta stay grounded, so I won't get me hopes up.
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Yup...says just that. Waiting on the CBI annoumcment from now to maybe September 3rd. September 2nd is a Monday and a holiday in Canada and the US so banks are closed.

I like the now better than the September 3rd but hey...that works for me also.

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Good stuff, PIR. rockon
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okay...still listening to Phoenix and what he was alluding to was in one of his calls 2 weeks ago when someone had asked him to toss a nugget of info. our way. so I am going to go back and listen to the q &A where the lady (315 Sarah from Fort Drum) had asked him that and he through a clue out.

I remember her asking him that, but can't remember what he had said. I will update this when I find it.

Okay found it at 76min. 40sec. [link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

All I can say is I sure hope he is right and between now and Sept. 3rd sounds very exciting!!!!
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When will this payday be. Will be Monday will it be......




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Patience my friends Patience. Yea right!! One minute ya think they are zooming along and then comes all the indecisiveness that the Iraqi's are so well known for.

I'm still waiting on that big surprise Maliki promised. Hope he took his med's this week...lol.

Sorry, been a bad day for me as I just found out one of my close cousins committed suicide this morning.
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Man..Just back from a funeral of a friend on the mainland YT

So Sorry for your loss.
I lost my young brother to suicide
do not judge those who try and fail.If you must then judge those who fail to try..


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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
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okay...still listening to Phoenix and what he was alluding to was in one of his calls 2 weeks ago when someone had asked him to toss a nugget of info. our way. so I am going to go back and listen to the q &A where the lady (315 Sarah from Fort Drum) had asked him that and he through a clue out.

I remember her asking him that, but can't remember what he had said. I will update this when I find it.

Okay found it at 76min. 40sec. [link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

All I can say is I sure hope he is right and between now and Sept. 3rd sounds very exciting!!!!
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Are you referring to the tariff and HCL laws... that the HCL comes after the rv?

"Something has been set... factual information... an indicator.. professions... middle east currency... logically at the end of the month"

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It showed that "the British bank is preparing to launch three branches in Iraq during the period of the next year and a half, to meet the financial needs of the loans to the country's reconstruction projects the oil-rich" Iraq "after a decade of war."



The signals that "American banks operating in Iraq effects, mainly بسيتي the Bank Citibank and JP Morgan JPMorgan where Beshra their investment in the country after the recovery of oil production and the return of investment banking contracts. "



She explained that the "difficult security conditions experienced by Iraq, Standard Chartered Bank is planning to have a presence on the ground there as part of a strategic push into the country."



She National, said that "a spokesman for Standard Chartered Bank, the bank plans to open three branches in Iraq and two branches will open in Baghdad and Erbil during the last quarter of 2013, the current, to be third in Basra during the year 2014 next and after obtaining the approvals of fundamentalism."



The spokesman said that "the bank raised its request to Iraqi officials to get a license to open branches and main objective of it is to meet the growing banking needs of our customers working in Iraq, especially in the electricity sector, oil, telecommunications and infrastructure."



The "British embassy in Baghdad play an active role in helping Standard Chartered Bank to enter the Iraqi market through the list to facilitate the course of negotiations with the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government and the bank is trying to get local customers since the first day of the opening of its branches."



[link to www.alestiqam...usiness&id=2809]

Read more: [link to dinarvets.com]
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Iraq Parliament is back in session!
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Incidentally, if I'm right and economic reform is what we've been waiting for, we've been hanging out waiting for a long time in vain, because according to the international law that Bremer violated by trying to impose economic reform on Iraq, nothing could have been done prior to our exit from Iraq because laws cannot be changed while a country is occupied. This part is a bit of speculation, but Chapter 7 sanctions, while not boots-on-the-ground occupation, is tantamount to a seige, which is a form of occupation, so if that's the case, nothing could have been done prior to June 27, which would explain why nothing got done when they first started talking about this in December 2012, and why they just now passed it out of the CoM.

This would also explain Parliament's culture of apathy. For 10 years, other than some tinkering with some minor issues, there was almost nothing they could do because they were under occupation and then sanctions. If I knew my job was pretty much useless, I'd probably stop bothering to show up most of the time, too.
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Steps needed to move toward a market economy

08/20/2013 12:00 AM

Baghdad - شكران the Fatlawi

Economic expert called for the need to determine the implications of economic reform and its priorities, including identifying priority to move from a totalitarian economy to a market economy, pointing to the need to provide sound foundations necessary to achieve a smooth transition at the lowest possible cost as well as complete the necessary legislation and put it into practice.

D said. Emad Salem »Sabah» can not achieve economic development unless there are radical changes

Alluding to the need for accurate identification of the economic challenges in Iraq, and the design of public policies and agreement on inter principles and perspectives relevant to determine the form of the state and to agree on the nature and on its foundation and then characterize the economic system and define the role of the private sector within this system and this in turn requires a clear vision of the decision-makers.

He Salem that the process of public policy-making in Iraq faces a major challenge is reflected in the non-application of the provisions of the Constitution of 2005 related to economic affairs, stressing the face of this challenge to proceed without delay to study the Constitution first and agree on the interpretation and clearly defined her or modify some of then do drafting mechanisms policies and institutional frameworks to transform these terms and constitutional articles to a united and supportive factors for the transition to a market economy and not vice versa.

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Investors are ready. Economic reform passed CoM. C'mon, Parliament. Do something.



A surge in global corporate attitudes toward the Iraqi market



08/20/2013 12:00 AM



BAGHDAD - Hussein Tamimi

continues to local markets receive the best advanced technologies that represent the product of the best international companies that represents Iraq's most important destinations of current and future, after he realized the importance of the application is available in the local market.

, an expert on import Jassim Al Aradi pointed out that the domestic market has become today's trending towards producing companies with brands universally adopted, pointing out that this is a new trend is to supply advanced technology quality.

, and pointed out that the follower of the reality of international companies and data issued by their delegations attending to the country touches the desire of those companies in the presence on the yard of the local economy, and the ones that want to the establishment of production lines within the country and to engage in local partnerships, pointing to the importance of this step in achieving economic viability of the country. In these meantime, received the Iraqi markets recently my phone «Nokia to وميا 720» and «Nokia to وميا520which provide a great mix of performance of Higher, creativity and the right price.

and I pointed statistics in this matter and existence of a great demand for this advanced technology where the is characterized by these setups strongly and clarity of the image which amounts to , what makes them Top the performance of between the Cameras Nokia phones, They are also longer the camera idealism to capture the photos collective with friends or making calls visual via Skype program. We can say that Nokia phone to وميا 720 components of high camera with lenses digital-enabled high is that you can afford him taking pictures with flying colors.

and available Nokia phone to وميا 720 in five attractive colors translate well-deserved in the design of Nokia's outstanding is made of one piece, which admired record level the world. He drew a source in the company said the new technology fitted lid optional to support shipping Wireless and make it more easily, raising the demand for this device and allows Nokia phone to وميا 520 abundant array of innovations derived from my Nokia phone to وميا 920 and Nokia وميا820

Pointed to put all of Nokia وميا 720 and Nokia to وميا the 520 yet provide them with a complete package of applications «HERE Maps" for maps and "HERE Drive" navigation service with voice guidance and counseling of flour, "HERE Transit", which serves as a guide to public transport. At the under the operating system provides and Andozvon 8 on the All phones Nokia family for the وميا, are available for the user More from the the pleasures personal offered by the smart phones such as determining tracks with applications "HERE" and Send a-page thread and documents via the International Network for information to the and operating interface "Start Screen" on the screen of the phone and so vivid (Live Tiles) helps the user to follow-up Tableware to the changing Information of inherently as the prices of the Stock Exchange and the case of the atmosphere.



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Incidentally, if I'm right and economic reform is what we've been waiting for, we've been hanging out waiting for a long time in vain, because according to the international law that Bremer violated by trying to impose economic reform on Iraq, nothing could have been done prior to our exit from Iraq because laws cannot be changed while a country is occupied. This part is a bit of speculation, but Chapter 7 sanctions, while not boots-on-the-ground occupation, is tantamount to a seige, which is a form of occupation, so if that's the case, nothing could have been done prior to June 27, which would explain why nothing got done when they first started talking about this in December 2012, and why they just now passed it out of the CoM.

This would also explain Parliament's culture of apathy. For 10 years, other than some tinkering with some minor issues, there was almost nothing they could do because they were under occupation and then sanctions. If I knew my job was pretty much useless, I'd probably stop bothering to show up most of the time, too.
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POST OF THE MONTH!!!
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Really Early Tuesday AM

OOM&F:

2:10 AM [GrannyOf5] I want to tell you my bank story. I went to deposit in my acct, & the manager came over to me & asked if I still had my dinar. I said yes & he said I want you to meet someone. This man came over & gave me his card, turns out he’s a regional mgr for WF. He asked about the dinar & asked if I had made my deposit & was I happy with the exchange rate. I must have looked crazy, cause I told him no, no deposit I am waiting on the announcement. He said what anouncement? NO announcement , it will just be do it.

2:12 AM [GrannyOf5] I said I was told there would be some special pronouncement and then we could go. He said well we have been told any cust who ask about dinar get name & number and give them a date and time. I was the third person he approached today. I wasn’t even thinking dinar til he came to me. I said thank you and went home. I don t trust any news till everyone gets the news. I think hes stepped out too soon

2:14 AM [GrannyOf5] If it s real I want to know for sure, Im not going to the bank, calling the bank or anything!

[GrannyOf5] you know believe half of what you see, and NONE of what you hear!!

[SpecialAgentGibbs] I assume her deposit was regular banking business
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Incidentally, if I'm right and economic reform is what we've been waiting for, we've been hanging out waiting for a long time in vain, because according to the international law that Bremer violated by trying to impose economic reform on Iraq, nothing could have been done prior to our exit from Iraq because laws cannot be changed while a country is occupied. This part is a bit of speculation, but Chapter 7 sanctions, while not boots-on-the-ground occupation, is tantamount to a seige, which is a form of occupation, so if that's the case, nothing could have been done prior to June 27, which would explain why nothing got done when they first started talking about this in December 2012, and why they just now passed it out of the CoM.

This would also explain Parliament's culture of apathy. For 10 years, other than some tinkering with some minor issues, there was almost nothing they could do because they were under occupation and then sanctions. If I knew my job was pretty much useless, I'd probably stop bothering to show up most of the time, too.
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clappa

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My dad has been all over this, too. He just mentioned that he found something in his research about HCL being buried in this law yesterday. I can't find it, but he distinctly remembered it, and it would make sense for changes to oil contract law being just a small part of a general economic reform package. I'm tellin' ya. This is it, y'all.
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Here's an article from BBC from Sept 2003 that said the reforms implemented by the American administration would take place within weeks, and that "liberalisation of foreign investment, the banking sector, taxes and tariffs would 'significantly advance efforts to build a free and open market economy in Iraq". None of it took place, and it looks like it's about to.

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

"The recently-appointed minister unveiled a string of reforms that analysts said read like a manifesto devised by Washington, signing off 30 years of Saddam Hussein and the socialist Baath Party."
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A blast from the recent economic reform news past. PIR, do you have a link to the conference on economic reform Phoenix was talking about last night? I can't seem to find it. Supposedly, it's over on Thursday, so I would expect Parliament to move on this next week.


Industrial expert: Economic Reform Act will be a qualitative leap in the development of the economy

15-08-2013 12:14 PM

Baghdad (news) .. He expert in development Industrial Amer jeweler, the importance of approving a bill to economic reform in the Iraqi parliament after being approved by the Council of Ministers at its previous. The jeweler said (of the Agency news): The Iraqi economic reform law is of great significance and could happen a quantum leap to the development of the economy, calling on Parliament to speed up the adoption by the current session and not postponed to the next session. He added: This law is a bright spot for all Iraqis being reflected positively on the interest of the country and the future of his children and the development of investment. He called: to implement the right way that will attract positive results for the country and the level of great challenge, pointing out that he can not build an organization that works with the same pattern prevailing Iraqi government must therefore work in a new way and led by competent possess sophisticated full loyalty to Iraq. The Council of Ministers approved the draft law on economic reform, the federal auditor by the State Council, and forwarded to the House of Representatives based on the provisions of Articles (61 / I and item 80 / item II) of the Constitution. / End / 5. G. /


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Re: Iraq an economic Study
Incidentally, if I'm right and economic reform is what we've been waiting for, we've been hanging out waiting for a long time in vain, because according to the international law that Bremer violated by trying to impose economic reform on Iraq, nothing could have been done prior to our exit from Iraq because laws cannot be changed while a country is occupied. This part is a bit of speculation, but Chapter 7 sanctions, while not boots-on-the-ground occupation, is tantamount to a seige, which is a form of occupation, so if that's the case, nothing could have been done prior to June 27, which would explain why nothing got done when they first started talking about this in December 2012, and why they just now passed it out of the CoM.

This would also explain Parliament's culture of apathy. For 10 years, other than some tinkering with some minor issues, there was almost nothing they could do because they were under occupation and then sanctions. If I knew my job was pretty much useless, I'd probably stop bothering to show up most of the time, too.
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POST OF THE MONTH!!!
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My dad has been all over this, too. He just mentioned that he found something in his research about HCL being buried in this law yesterday. I can't find it, but he distinctly remembered it, and it would make sense for changes to oil contract law being just a small part of a general economic reform package. I'm tellin' ya. This is it, y'all.
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Well, you know what they say about "once in a blue moon".

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Re: Iraq an economic Study
Incidentally, if I'm right and economic reform is what we've been waiting for, we've been hanging out waiting for a long time in vain, because according to the international law that Bremer violated by trying to impose economic reform on Iraq, nothing could have been done prior to our exit from Iraq because laws cannot be changed while a country is occupied. This part is a bit of speculation, but Chapter 7 sanctions, while not boots-on-the-ground occupation, is tantamount to a seige, which is a form of occupation, so if that's the case, nothing could have been done prior to June 27, which would explain why nothing got done when they first started talking about this in December 2012, and why they just now passed it out of the CoM.

This would also explain Parliament's culture of apathy. For 10 years, other than some tinkering with some minor issues, there was almost nothing they could do because they were under occupation and then sanctions. If I knew my job was pretty much useless, I'd probably stop bothering to show up most of the time, too.
 Quoting: ReVbo™

clappa

POST OF THE MONTH!!!
 Quoting: calin


My dad has been all over this, too. He just mentioned that he found something in his research about HCL being buried in this law yesterday. I can't find it, but he distinctly remembered it, and it would make sense for changes to oil contract law being just a small part of a general economic reform package. I'm tellin' ya. This is it, y'all.
 Quoting: ReVbo™


Well, you know what they say about "once in a blue moon".

wink
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