Iraq an economic Study

After the Foley beheading, and all the other atrocities, I really wish we were going to kill every last one of these bastards, but it looks like we're sticking with the plan and just doing enough to get them running back to Syria so they can help take out Assad.

Either way, that was good to see.

Rev you sooooo rock this thread. You are wonderful. a THANKS from the bottom of my heart.

If this goes they're saying it's going to with the government, ISIS should be pretty much done in Iraq right about the same time the new government is seated. Security and stability on the same day. Four days until Abadi brings his cabinet to Parliament for a vote, allegedly, anyway. Sunnis are already on board, and all indications are the Kurds will get their Article 140 and the peasants shall rejoice across the land.



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Sounds like a winner to me. Stab in the dark and tell me how many days we have til we go to the bank?

I don't think I've posted a timing speculation in a while, so I guess now is as good a time as any, huh? I guess I've just been hesitant about making predictions. GLP Effect and all, ya know?

I posted something from Kaperoni, earlier today, where he has finally come around to the thinking, that some of us have had for quite a while, that no more laws need be passed to do currency reform. Turki said, a few months ago, when he gets government stability, he will not hesitate to implement the plan. No mention of the Economic Reform Law or banking and investment laws at all. That was before ISIS, and I think security is just as important as stability, and have seen indications of that from Iraqi economists, so I do believe they have to be eliminated, as well. So the earliest it could happen, in my opinion, would be next Tuesday, assuming ISIS has been mostly defeated and Abadi and his cabinet have received a confidence vote from Parliament on Monday. Realistically, they would probably wait at least a few days, but who knows? He said he would not hesitate, which means it very well could happen 10 seconds after Abadi is sworn in.

What do y'all think?

Very possible. And you are just repeating the news source! ;)

Yeah, calin. I just use the news. Wish i didn't have to. I don't know anybody important and my matrix of prognostication broke a long time ago.

I'm with you rev. We are at the mercy of what's being reported outta that place. It makes sense on your timeframe idea though.

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#Kurdistan: #Peshmerga forces have completely surrounded Jalula, #IS is trapped

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Peshmerga throwing away #IS-flag replacing it by Kurdish flag " #AmessagefromISIStoUS #AmessageToAmerica pic.twitter.com/YXajgPlxbS

Get some!

Kumbaya, Iraqis!


08/22/2014 16:39

Jaafari: National will stand firmly on the side of Abadi in the formation of the government
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BAGHDAD / obelisk: The head of the National Alliance, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, on Friday, he will stand firmly on the side of Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi in the formation of the new government, and among that everyone is trying to form a responsible government, embodies where everyone, or the vast majority, and all of them bear responsibility , stressed the need to carry a message of national minister in the next government to build a new Iraq.

And the transfer of Jaafari's office in a press statement received "obelisk" a copy of which, Jaafari was quoted as saying, "The National Alliance has formed a committee of eight individuals carrying out four tasks are: Alliance, and management dialogue within the coalition parties, and the dialogue of the alliance with the brothers the Kurds and the brothers of the year, and in the the same time, the political program, have been meetings with multiple blocks of the brothers of the year, and we hope that dialogue should be open to all of the components without Hristiz dialogue in a group or a particular block, do not stand at a particular block. "

He said al-Jaafari, "We would be interested Almojtmaaat we approach, and that the Iraqi people, in which three Mojtmaaat (Shiite and Sunni, and Kurdish), and other small Mojtmaaat, and this is a fact, and this Almojtmaaat must be represented in all aspects of the state."

He continued, "We focused on the need to carry the minister a message of national in the new government; to build a new Iraq, we do not want to have this diversity in the cabinet reshuffle is a delegate to his party within the government as it is representative of the government in the political reality of Iraq by the nature of his ministry; therefore focus on very high degree of efficiency, and focus on independence in the performance, it is not no shortage affiliation, but we want him to perform independent, and associated cabinet, and is subject to the government and the state, but not from this party or that. "

He pointed out that "the meetings going on, and until yesterday we held a bilateral meeting between the leadership of the National Alliance and the Committee on the dialogue with the blocks, and excellent integrated report came as she met with some factions of the brothers of the year, and my interlocutors, and I got to know their views.

And between al-Jaafari, "Now we're going to get to know the views of closely, and will be meeting with our brothers the Kurds when they call a delegation to this matter, and then seen the National Alliance for what he wants, and Nlaqah between these views; even come up with a combination government of everyone, be the audience where attendance is responsible, nor be present in the government, and speak to the government, as happened in the past. "

"We want a responsible government, which embodies everyone, or the vast majority, and all of them bear the responsibility."

As head of the National Alliance stressed that "the prime minister-designate Haider Abadi is not alone and that the coalition would be appointed, and stands firmly on his side, and we hope our brothers in the rest of the alliances that seem responsive, interactive and well and working together."

[link to almasalah.com]

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And so the Kumbaya fest continues...


Kurdish Deputy: the region is serious in resolving the succession with the center

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08/22/2014 14:50

Tomorrow's Press / Baghdad confirmed the Kurdistan Alliance MP Najiba Najib, on Friday, that the Kurdistan region is serious in resolving his differences with the Centre, is likely to witness a breakthrough next phase of crises between Baghdad and Erbil.
She said Najib's "Tomorrow's Press," said that "the region and through negotiations with the Maliki government and the previous leaders did not reach satisfactory solutions due to the lack of flexibility to deal as well as raising the ceiling of demands made of the region to stop Tfaaudhath."
Najib added that "the political leaders of the Kurdistan region is serious at the moment to resume Mfadaudhatha on resolving the differences between the center and the region and that of the file, including the budget and export of oil and Article 140 to reach agreements satisfactory to both parties without dropping to the rights of any of them."
She Najib said that "there is optimism and expectations on resolving most of the outstanding issues between the government in Baghdad and Erbil, especially as Prime Minister-designate promised Haider Abadi, the region that there would be discussion sessions to resolve all differences and soon."
It is said that the relationship between the Kurdistan region and the central government have seen before tense months because of differences on the issues of the federal budget and export of oil.


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@Reuters: "They are an imminent threat to every interest we have": Chuck Hagel on Islamic State: USE_FULL_LINK_PLEASESdOsX4qpj0 USE_FULL_LINK_PLEASEtKJg53rchY ;




Revbo from an hour ago in response to the above:
Is anybody else noticing the irony in Hagel saying ISIS is an "imminent threat to every interest we have," and us not doing anything to step up attacks on this group? He went so far, yesterday, as to call them an "apocalyptic organization;" an apocalyptic organization that can, for some reason, be contained by nine air strikes a day and some Peshmergas with AK-47s.

I guess they're just setting up the narative for when we ultimately go into Syria to take these guys out after ISIS is done deposing Assad, because we're just doing the bare minimum to chase them away in Iraq.




Revbo now:
Someone just posted, at CC, that Martha McAllum has got some "experts" on, talking about us needing to go into Syria to get ISIS. I guess everyone's pretty content that the "apocalyptic organization" is under control in Iraq, and they're already shifting the narrative to the need to go after them in Syria, but what they really mean is, "Use ISIS to take out Assad, now that their work in Iraq is done, and then, kill ISIS and install an American-friendly government.

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I watched Hagel live yesterday, I think HE wants to do something but is sending a message to Obama. He's clearly frustrated with the inaction. The ball is in Os court and you know how paralyzing decisions are for him.

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And so the Kumbaya fest continues some more...

Note the red part.


Iraq: Abadi rejects Maliki’s advice on government formation

Prime Minister-designate says he is committed to forming national unity government

Amman, Asharq Al-Awsat—Prime Minister-designate Haider Al-Abadi rejected a call made by his predecessor Nuri Al-Maliki not to entertain “preconditions” from Iraq’s Sunnis, stressing that he is committed to forming a national unity government that includes all Iraqi political and sectarian factions.

In a statement on Thursday, Abadi said: “I am committed to the recommendations put forward by the religious authorities [in Iraq] regarding the necessity of forming a government that enjoys broad consensus.” He added that the next Baghdad government must be able to establish security and stability and resolve the many problems facing the country, not least the continuing advance of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters.

The prime minister-designate said that government formation efforts are progressing well, particularly after top Kurdish ministers rejoined the cabinet earlier this week.

“The government formation negotiations are moving forward in an encouraging manner. The political factions have put forward their views, and we are discussing this. We hope to reach an agreement on the new cabinet as soon as possible,” Abadi said.

He called on Iraq’s divided political factions to “overcome their differences and move forward in the political process, turning over a new page for the sake of Iraq and the Iraqi people.”

Abadi’s comments come just one day after outgoing prime minister Nuri Al-Maliki explicitly called on him to reject any Sunni preconditions for joining the new government.

“Setting conditions before the formation of the government will damage the political process . . .Abadi must refuse to be dictated to by political blocs,” Maliki said in his weekly address.

Maliki called on his successor to explicitly reject Sunni preconditions for joining the new government; Iraq’s Sunni blocs have threatened to boycott the new government if demands are not met.

The deadline for Abadi to announce the formation of a new government expires on September 10.

[link to www.aawsat.net]

My dad mentioned that this morning. Maybe, Hagel's not down with the plan, but that seems to be what we're going with. I don't see any indication we're going to be stepping up our efforts to do anything about ISIS in Iraq. Pretty soon, they'll all be back, wreaking havoc in Syria, and we'll probably get an ISIS attack here in America right about the same time ISIS is done with Assad.

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Here's why we're getting those stupid statements from Other Maliki and Chihod today. Surprise, surprise.

If you haven't seen them, two old members of SoL are saying everybody has unreasonable demands which will stall the formation of the government, while everybody else sings "Kumbaya."


MALIKI DIRECTED POLITICAL STRIFE AND BROADCAST MEDIA TO DISRUPT THE FORMATION OF THE GOVERNMENT

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Maliki directed political strife and broadcast media to disrupt the formation of the government

A source of Baghdadi al-Maliki that the face yesterday during a meeting with the leaders of the coalition of state law and a number of journalists loyal to him to develop a plan to disrupt the formation of the government.

The source said that al-Maliki face exploitation and the paper demands of the Kurdish, Sunni and education through media and media subsidiaries and loyal to him that the acceptance Abadi it is treason and a waiver of the rights of Shiites as demanded by al-Maliki assembled to focus on the indictment, Mr. Ammar al-Hakim, by clicking on the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and criticize the policies of mass citizen with the help of the Kurds and Sunnis to get the ministries,

the source added that al-Maliki called on the assembled attacking some members of the coalition of state law as betrayed Secretariat for special interests and partisan and avoid dangerous files against them as well as work on the broadcast rumors and direct contact with members of the Kurdistan Alliance and the year to intimidate them and encourage them and mixing Securities internally and rely at the center of Mesopotamia associated with the Ministry of National Security, which is headed by a political analyst close to the owners and his team to consolidate the ideas above and popularly marketed especially to activate the pressure inside the Sunni areas to put pressure on their representatives.

The source said that among those present at the meeting, former MP Ali Alfalh and a number of political analysts and associates from the media.

[link to www.albaghdadia.com]

Abadi agrees to the demands of the six governorates Almentvdh

21-08-2014 11:49 AM

Baghdad (news) .. announced the Anbar Provincial Council, for approval of the Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi on the demands of the six provinces in exchange for supporting a coalition of 'national forces' for the next government.

said Chairman of the Board morning Krhot in a press statement: The 'leaders of the coalition of national forces met with leaders National Alliance, headed by Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi in Baghdad in order to form a new government and implement the demands of the six governorates Almentvdh '.

added Krhot, that 'Abadi, and agreed to all the demands of the provinces in return for approval of a coalition of national forces in parliament to form a new government and support', explaining that 'negotiations going well on the formation of the new government.

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Sounds about right.

Rudaw English ‏@RudawEnglish 4m
Peshmerga commander Mahmoud Sangawi: #Peshmerga forces have started attacking #IS positions in #Jalawla from four front.

Rudaw English ‏@RudawEnglish 2m
Mahmoud #Sangawi: #Peshmerga forced have inflicted heavy casualties on the #IS in Jalawla area and some of their bodies are left.

The Turkman town of Amerli has made American news today and yesterday. They have been under ISIS seige for over two months, and after Sistani's plea to help them, yesterday, a force has arrived, and I'm sure air cover won't be too far behind.


Ahmed ‏@AhmeedAJ 2h
Minister of Transport Hadi Al Ameri has arrived with a force at Amerli to relieve the Shia Turkmen from ISIS's seige pic.twitter.com/HeH0JLvavI

Wanna watch some more ISIS die?



@2:35 "Ooh, that got him."

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Oh now come on...we all have an opinion. However the situation is resolved is fine by me. Matrix of whatever, or, by news articles. Turn the key, flip the switch, rotate the knob, or scream, it does not matter. See where I'm coming from..?? Here's a tidbidt.....yikes...wow !!!
She's right behind Haifa and her sister by an inch...
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Haifas ice bucket challenge for ALS

Surprise, surprise. ISIS is fleeing Iraq and running back to Syria, and not a single bomb dropped by America on what must be an enormous convoy of heavy artillery. Cue talking heads bitching about it, saying now we must pursue them into Syria, and by the time we get enough support to do so, they will have reached Damascus and overthrown Assad. Then, the real fireworks start when we declare, for the world to hear, a terrorist organization like ISIS cannot be allowed to control a government, especially one as strategically located as Syria.



Daash "convey heavy weapons to Syria for fear of U.S. strikes

August 22, 2014, 11:26

Nineveh - ((eighth day))

Said a source familiar with the inside of Mosul that the organization "Daash" transfer during the past few days a large number of heavy weapons to Syria to avoid targeted by American planes.

The source said in his speech ((eighth day)) that "the organization began to withdraw armed men from the left side of the city in anticipation of any ground attack carried out by the Peshmerga forces to restore these areas.

He pointed out that the number of insurgents in the left side became very little from what it was in the past weeks.

The aircraft has six air strikes near the Mosul Dam, yesterday, it blew up three cars "Humvee" of an American captured by elements of the "Daash", in addition to the other car and a number of improvised explosive.

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Here it is Obama now is your chance to wipe them out so they never return to Iraq or anywhere else. Just send in a jet squadron and end this.

Ain't gonna happen. He's going to let them back into Syria with all their new American toys, they will use them to take out Assad for us, and our thank you will be daisy cutters all over their asses. I hate Obama, and think it's inhuman how he plays these games with people's lives, but if you take the human aspect out of it, it's freakin' genius. Not really all that far off from what we did with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Russians, so I can't come down too hard on ole Barry. He's got Kissinger telling him what to do same as Reagan did. Only difference is, Reagan didn't have a decapitated American, at the hands of his proxy army, to deal with. I really thought that would throw a kink in the whole thing, and I would wake up to 900 air strikes this morning, but Barry, it seems, is sticking with the plan.

Keep on saying things like this, and we may just get that government on Tuesday.

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"MP did not rule out "for an agreement on the distribution of ministries between the components, during the next few days," stressing that "the Kurdistan Alliance will present his paper, negotiating through the next few hours."

He explained that the relationship "a serious political blocs to resolve the file in the ministries during the period of less than a constitutional period, which ends after about 20 days."

"Abdullah predicted that "these sessions determine the share of each component of the components of the ministries during this week," adding, however, "this is not important, but more importantly this is the solution to all problems through the government program."

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the US will never let Iraq to be overthrown
with the new govt in place (very close), the revaluation of the dinar can finally be permitted

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I'LL BE BACK

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