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Iraq an economic Study

 
calin

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Hi Calin, busy day, working on my house. I will watch the vid in the morning, my time. I read a thread on it earlier but didn't watch the vid. Sounded a little strange.

It will be interesting to see what the big speech is all about. Until tomorrow then. sk
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Ok.. good to know you are around! Missed you.

One other is an a audio.... Not much to it.

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Well I'm finally able to sit down and watch the video.

Interesting, sound like a couple of others that we have heard from like Ben. But this sounds much more grounded.

People in the thread were wonder why this was released on some small time TV show. The thought that came to me, was because if it was released on MSN outlets, people would immediately think it was the elites up to their NWO schemes.

Only way to find out, is wait, like so many other things going on right now. The waiting game. Would be nice if it were legit. sk
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Headlines

Finance committee reveals that the political consensus “impede” the final accounts
Iraqi secret negotiations – U.S. to settle the issue of the $17 billion
Energy parliamentary reveal a preliminary consensus on a new version of the law of oil and gas between Baghdad and Erbil
Maliki meets Senator Joseph Lieberman and emphasizes the development of relations with the United States
Iraq House of Representatives ended the first and second reading of nine bills; Reconvene Thursday
Oil rises above $ 110 a barrel by Iran, China data
Iraqi parliament held its first session in 2012 and Iraqi province continues
Economist: failed states economically support each other behind the decline in the euro
Ali Fayad: licensing rounds for the U.S. withdrawal is not affected and blackmail foreign
Aziz calls on the government to make a complaint to the United Nations to stop the compensation paid by Iraq to Kuwait a year
Shopping centers (malls) economic openness and aesthetic confers on Baghdad
Finance Commitee Representatives: 2012 budget does not correspond with the federal system
CBI Daily Currency Auction Jan 3 2012: $252.5 million
[link to thecurrencynewshound.com]
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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Yeah, that kept me up until 1:30 last night. I think it's safe to call BS by now.
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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Sounds like somebody got their wires crossed. lol sk
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Thank God sonny1 came the the thread and validated a no go. !!!
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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Yeah, that kept me up until 1:30 last night. I think it's safe to call BS by now.
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Ranalin seems to be standing by his story.

popcorn
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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Yeah, that kept me up until 1:30 last night. I think it's safe to call BS by now.
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Ranalin seems to be standing by his story.

popcorn
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oh - I will have a look then
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This is a fun thread to follow - [link to dinarvets.com]
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Yeah, that kept me up until 1:30 last night. I think it's safe to call BS by now.
 Quoting: Revbo™


Ranalin seems to be standing by his story.

popcorn
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oh - I will have a look then
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[link to dinarvets.com] did you see this? There's tons to catch up on, but I get the drift from this synopsis.
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Yeah, that kept me up until 1:30 last night. I think it's safe to call BS by now.
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Ranalin seems to be standing by his story.

popcorn
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oh - I will have a look then
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[link to dinarvets.com] did you see this? There's tons to catch up on, but I get the drift from this synopsis.
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Dude, I've been on that thread since there were 3 posts, about midnight last night. That's why I got 4 hours of sleep last night, and the new stuff going on over there from Bravo11 is probably why I'll get another 4 tonight.

Please allow me to say, for my first time on the interwebs...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RV!
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Ranalin seems to be standing by his story.

popcorn
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oh - I will have a look then
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[link to dinarvets.com] did you see this? There's tons to catch up on, but I get the drift from this synopsis.
 Quoting: calin


Dude, I've been on that thread since there were 3 posts, about midnight last night. That's why I got 4 hours of sleep last night, and the new stuff going on over there from Bravo11 is probably why I'll get another 4 tonight.

Please allow me to say, for my first time on the interwebs...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RV!
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can you tell me the post number where Bravo posted?
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oh - I will have a look then
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[link to dinarvets.com] did you see this? There's tons to catch up on, but I get the drift from this synopsis.
 Quoting: calin


Dude, I've been on that thread since there were 3 posts, about midnight last night. That's why I got 4 hours of sleep last night, and the new stuff going on over there from Bravo11 is probably why I'll get another 4 tonight.

Please allow me to say, for my first time on the interwebs...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RV!
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can you tell me the post number where Bravo posted?
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[link to dinarvets.com]
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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[link to dinarvets.com] did you see this? There's tons to catch up on, but I get the drift from this synopsis.
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Dude, I've been on that thread since there were 3 posts, about midnight last night. That's why I got 4 hours of sleep last night, and the new stuff going on over there from Bravo11 is probably why I'll get another 4 tonight.

Please allow me to say, for my first time on the interwebs...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RV!
 Quoting: Revbo™


can you tell me the post number where Bravo posted?
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[link to dinarvets.com]
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Why the name change?
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01/04/2012 12:11 AM
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Oh, never mind I get it... [link to dinarvets.com]
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Kuwait seizes Iraqi boat, deports fishermen
Parliamentary committee: Parliament soon host Abdul Karim and coffee to discuss oil and gas law
Ki-moon was “worried” about the situation in Iraq and urged to resolve outstanding issues through dialogue
Financial Committee, IMF reach agreement on 2012 budget
Abtan: Iraq a breeding ground for the economy, investment, and we welcome any Arab inclination to invest in it
Editorial: Small groups of cash .. Desirable reprehensible”
Foreign Relations Committee plans to host a parliamentary Undersecretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to discuss the issue of removing Iraq from Chapter VII
UN Sec-General calls to end tension in Iraq
Economic Analyst: Distribution of loans and advances without the economic feasibility will lead to increase the rate of inflation in Iraq
The Iraqi market for securities orphans and Local
Iraq postpones the fourth round of the licensing power to April
Bank of the Iraqi (TBI) gives credit cards to citizens internationally recognized
UN’s Ban ki Moon satisfied with Iraq’s compliance with fund obligation
CBI Daily Currency Auction Jan 4 2011: $248.3 million
[link to thecurrencynewshound.com]
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[link to dinarvets.com] Adam's Official Wed Chat 1/4/12
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Kiplinger: 10 Developments That May Surprise You in 2012; The world’s fastest-growing economy next year may well be lraq’s
UN: Kuwait will receive one billion dollars from Iraq this month
Kurdistan Region announces reach Arbil and Baghdad on a formula for the initial oil and gas law
[link to thecurrencynewshound.com]
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Posted Today, 01:08 PM
CNN. Broadcasting On The Border Between The States Of Confusion + Delirium.



01/04/2012 [kaperoni] I want to bring out two articles today. This was the just of the call last night.

[kaperoni] Article…

[kaperoni] Interview with Dr. MP. Haider al-Abadi - Date: Tue 03/01/2012 2:12

[kaperoni] Link…

[kaperoni] LINK

[kaperoni] He makes it very clear in this Q & A article, that there is a law that must be passed prior to the RV from happening.

[kaperoni] I want to explain this first.

[kaperoni] You see all Iraqi citizens who take loans, or mortgages etc, have contracts written in the current dinar exchnage rate. So for instance, if you buy a house for say..50,000,000 (50 million dinar), once the RV happen, at whatever the new exchange rate is, this amount must be rectified or change to reflect the new rate. Otherwise, there is no way at the new rate the borrower would ever pay this off…lol Make sense? So as an example…if the new exchange rate is 1 to $1 the loan would be adjusted to 50,000 dinar.

[kaperoni] Now this law is a must before the RV can happen. This effect every citizen who has a legal contract for anything such as houses, cars, business loans etc. Here is the quote…


“Q --The process of deleting the zeros and the replacement of the currency you need a parliamentary resolution?”

[kaperoni] “A - The process of deleting the zeros do not need a parliamentary resolution,”

[kaperoni] “ but it needs to legislation to liquidate the benefits of debt and the other between the dinar, the old and the new dinar and the project in the process of discussion with the Central Bank of Iraq because the process of substitution two-year Tbdoua in 2013 must also adopt the budget in 2013 dinar new, “

[kaperoni] Ok, so there cannot substantial change in dinar exchange rate until this is done. Period.

[kaperoni] One more quick article…

[kaperoni] Is it possible for Iraq to lead the Arab world economically - Tue 03/01/2012 7:12

[kaperoni] Link…

[kaperoni] LINK

[kaperoni] Quote…

[kaperoni] “he time has come for decision, and the Iraqi leadership, one choice: either to create an environment suitable for foreign investment, administrative, or accept the slow growth rate of oil production.”

[kaperoni] I think this pretty much sums it up. If Iraq wants more than just oil, they need to move forward soon with the economic changes to invite investment. This is all in the hand of Parliament and Maliki now.

[kaperoni] Three months ago, nobody believed me when i mentioned how the economic laws played a part in this event. Well, it might be time for everyone to go back and read those chats. (The truth and reality of the Iraqi GOI parts 1-4). lol

[kaperoni] Done.

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Posted Today, 01:08 PM
CNN. Broadcasting On The Border Between The States Of Confusion + Delirium.



01/04/2012 [kaperoni] I want to bring out two articles today. This was the just of the call last night.

[kaperoni] Article…

[kaperoni] Interview with Dr. MP. Haider al-Abadi - Date: Tue 03/01/2012 2:12

[kaperoni] Link…

[kaperoni] LINK

[kaperoni] He makes it very clear in this Q & A article, that there is a law that must be passed prior to the RV from happening.

[kaperoni] I want to explain this first.

[kaperoni] You see all Iraqi citizens who take loans, or mortgages etc, have contracts written in the current dinar exchnage rate. So for instance, if you buy a house for say..50,000,000 (50 million dinar), once the RV happen, at whatever the new exchange rate is, this amount must be rectified or change to reflect the new rate. Otherwise, there is no way at the new rate the borrower would ever pay this off…lol Make sense? So as an example…if the new exchange rate is 1 to $1 the loan would be adjusted to 50,000 dinar.

[kaperoni] Now this law is a must before the RV can happen. This effect every citizen who has a legal contract for anything such as houses, cars, business loans etc. Here is the quote…


“Q --The process of deleting the zeros and the replacement of the currency you need a parliamentary resolution?”

[kaperoni] “A - The process of deleting the zeros do not need a parliamentary resolution,”

[kaperoni] “ but it needs to legislation to liquidate the benefits of debt and the other between the dinar, the old and the new dinar and the project in the process of discussion with the Central Bank of Iraq because the process of substitution two-year Tbdoua in 2013 must also adopt the budget in 2013 dinar new, “

[kaperoni] Ok, so there cannot substantial change in dinar exchange rate until this is done. Period.

[kaperoni] One more quick article…

[kaperoni] Is it possible for Iraq to lead the Arab world economically - Tue 03/01/2012 7:12

[kaperoni] Link…

[kaperoni] LINK

[kaperoni] Quote…

[kaperoni] “he time has come for decision, and the Iraqi leadership, one choice: either to create an environment suitable for foreign investment, administrative, or accept the slow growth rate of oil production.”

[kaperoni] I think this pretty much sums it up. If Iraq wants more than just oil, they need to move forward soon with the economic changes to invite investment. This is all in the hand of Parliament and Maliki now.

[kaperoni] Three months ago, nobody believed me when i mentioned how the economic laws played a part in this event. Well, it might be time for everyone to go back and read those chats. (The truth and reality of the Iraqi GOI parts 1-4). lol

[kaperoni] Done.

Read more: [link to dinarvets.com]
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It only make sense that there would have to be an adjustment of the cost of loans being paid back. So thats a no brainer. The rest of what he says makes sense also, so get on the stick, Iraq, and get er done. I doubt they are going to tell us if this law is enacted, that is needed to be past before an RV can happen. Could have already happened. sk
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Iraq House of Representatives convened today to vote on three laws; Will reconvene Saturday
Iraqi List MPs announce the formation of an independent block and decide to return to parliament
Talabani stresses during a meeting with representative of the Secretary-General of the UN to leave the legal issues to take its normal course
Economic cooperation and border issues will be topic of discussion when Maliki visits Kuwait
Iraq is a social survey of mid-month; Poverty reaches 23%
JP Morgan upbeat about Vietnam’s economy
Nassif: Development of the Iraqi coast, completion port of Faw Port Mubarak will make the burden on the Kuwaiti
The parliament intended to host oil minister to discuss the new HCL law
Comfortable with the United Nations to continue to transfer 5% of our revenues from oil
Ki-moon calls for the separation of powers and judicial independence in Iraq
CBI Daily Currency Auction Jan 5 2011: $279 million
NYT: Oil Price Would Skyrocket if Iran Closed the Strait of Hormuz
[link to thecurrencynewshound.com]
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Maliki appoints acting ministers replacing Iraqiya ministers
Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:45 GMT


“Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki appointed his deputy Hussein Al Shahristani in addition to other ministers as acting ministers replacing Iraqiya List ministers who are no longer participating in cabinet sessions,” the source told Alsumarianews explaining that Shahristani was appointed as Acting Minister of Electricity instead of Karim Aftan, a source told Alsumaria.
“Maliki appointed Higher Education Minister Ali Al Adib as Acting Minister of Education instead of Mohamed Tamim, Trade Minister Hassan Kheirallah Babker as Acting Minister of Industry and Minerals, Planning Minister Ali Shukri as Acting Minister of Finance instead of Rafea Al Issawi and State Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Safaddin Al Safi as Acting State Minister for Provincial Affairs,” the source added on condition of anonymity.

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Things are moving along! ;)

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Posted Today, 06:51 PM

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Let me apologize for being a bit late.

Lets get to the facts first, speculation afterwords.

YES an announcement was made declaring Iraq a sovereign nation.
NO they are not. This comments have been made several times in the past and they are not any more valid than in the past.
NO there has not been an in country RV.
NO street venders are not cashing people in.
Sorry just facts, not trying to bring folks down, but I am sure that is what people want to know most.

Iraq is making great strides in the last week, and parliment is working to get things ironed out.
I Believe (know) that the HCL agreement is completed, just not finalized. This has been a big step to get the Kurds back into the game.
Hopefully they will play nice with the rest of Iraq now.

As I stated some friends got called back from vaca early. I was hoping this was do to a RV.
Well not exactly. They were given new security assignments. The direct assignments I can not discus, but think of any big National changes.
Security needs usually increase just prior to any big changes, and just after them.
Just as there are people that want the RV in Iraq, believe it or not there are some groups that do not want this to happen.
Dont tip your head like a confused dog. Destitute people are easier to control and manipulate. These people are creating as much havic as they can.
Post event if RV I am sure you can see the need for hightened security.

Now for a my beliefs.
I am hearing, and now believe, that we are very close. YA I SAID IT.
I will never give a date or rate, but I do like the sound of buying the whole family new cars by Valentimes day.
Hopefully sooner.

I am stilll hearing 1-1 open to clear as many people as possible.
I do not feel it will open at 1 dollar, but would love it.
The 3, 5, 7 guys are splap nutz IMHO, then again saying 1-1 is hard for me, just what I am hearing.

Sorry I could not tell you this is done, but it is not. I can tell you things are starting to look alot better.

Heads up, Watch for China to take a more active roll to get this done.

I would like to give some more specific info, but should not.
Not a tease, just cant, it would not matter much anyway.

I have just got home from work, and only got about 30 min sleep last night so I am pretty tired.
I will try to stay around for a couple hours to answer any direct questions that I can.

I will also address a couple comments from past couple post.

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I know you are out there reading this............. I hear you breathing! lol
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Yes dear... but it's mostly just sighing at the moment... lol

Your posts are appreciated, Calin!

This has certainly been an interesting week, eh?
hf
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I guess its just me and you Calin. Oh well sk


Didn't refresh before posting. Looks like we have an AC with us also. More the merrier. sk

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calin

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Yes dear... but it's mostly just sighing at the moment... lol

Your posts are appreciated, Calin!

This has certainly been an interesting week, eh?
hf
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leelooloo
Thanks for the drive by! Yes, agree - very interesting week!

sighing and breathing... good sign! ;)
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I guess its just me and you Calin. Oh well sk
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Nah... got a live one !
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Starting work in the set-off e-government banks next week
Trade Bank of Iraq announced the award of “Visa card” for citizens
Attorney Yasiri: CBI follows the steps to maintain the balance of the dinar against the dollar; His work must not interfere
Iraq: the financial budget shelved due to political crisis
Najafi and Maliki and Khuzaie agree to form a joint committee to resolving the outstanding issues
Susan Saad calls for raising the standard of living of the Iraqi people.
Maliki: American’s desire Iraq’s exit from CH VII; Issues need resolved with Kuwait
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