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Scubaseven2
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
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12/11/2011 01:35 AM
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I'm among the worst of offenders, I once ran over a wallaby at 100 kph. He hopped onto the road and stood there and I couldn't stop in time.
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12/11/2011 01:37 AM
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My sister in law(god dam her witch black heart unforgiving soul) wants to save tuna.

I made a small comment about 27 million Australians stopping eating tuna' out of the 7 billion inhabitants of the world, would add about a week to it's existence and I was more rogered up the ass than a Bob Brown alter boy.


There are somethings we have to work on globally but with such a high population something has to give.

Trust me if it comes down to my kids and the last platypus, I'll fire up the BBQ, invite the neighbors and blog about how great it tasted.

If you starve people they will eat it all. Just ask Bear Grills.
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I'm among the worst of offenders, I once ran over a wallaby at 100 kph. He hopped onto the road and stood there and I couldn't stop in time.
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Yeah you accidentally killed a wallaby.

We all contribute to some degree.
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12/11/2011 01:41 AM
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OP, I have struggled with this topic for years. I am an animal lover and hate to see them suffer, but I do not do physically well when I eat a vegetarian diet. I was a vegetarian for a while, and it just did not work for me. This article I read, The Naive Vegetarian, did a lot to get me thinking logically about the debate instead of only using my emotions.

[link to www.second-opinions.co.uk]

The Weston A. Price Foundation also has loads of information on why vegetarianism is not what it's cracked up to be.

[link to www.westonaprice.org]

And don't get me started on PETA and other "animal rights" organizations and the pure evil that they practice. It's an abomination.

I think that many vegetarians are brainwashed, and I know because I was one. Their hearts are in the right place, but they are not using their minds. These animal rights groups play on people's emotions, but keep much of the truth hidden. Something must die in order for you to live. That is the law of this planet. And if you are a vegetarian who eats dairy, then you are certainly contributing to the deaths and suffering of dairy cows and their calves. What people should do is concentrate on making the lives of food animals better by not buying factory meat or dairy products and maybe eating LESS meat. When you buy for convenience and price, that contributes to the torture and horror of the mainstream meat industry. Support your local, humane farmers.
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12/11/2011 01:42 AM
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but they taste so damn good.
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Something must die in order for you to live. That is the law of this planet. And if you are a
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And don't get me started on PETA and other "animal rights" organizations and the pure evil that they practice. It's an abomination.
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PETA want all animals to be free, no matter what the consequence. The RSPCA on the other hand, care about what is best for the animal.

I was in touch with PETA's Asia Pacific head, and I quizzed her as to what they were doing about the shark fin industry (perhaps the cruelest and most wasteful industry on the planet). Their response was that they sent "one" letter to "one" resort. That was it.
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Something must die in order for you to live. That is the law of this planet. And if you are a
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Looks like the bankers are going to level the playing field.
OK, Greeennieeess, who ya going to pick to be the first to starve? I vote for NAM and most religious fanatics, As a peace loving imbecile who will you be knocking off first?
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12/11/2011 02:03 AM
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
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Your post serves no purpose.
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Your post serves no purpose.
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Yeah it is to let people know that we are all guilty in some way.

But I guess its the old saying; "if you kill one person you are a murderer, but if you kill a million you are a conqueror".
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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How does that differ from you working 10 hours a day in an office, school or building sight
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We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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Cats can do what they choose and most keep coming back dont they?

After all, even if its a bird in a cage or a fish in a tank, you are in fact protecting them and almost ensuring that they live as long as possible. Otherwise there is a good chance they would die young in the wild.
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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Yeah, I call bullshit on that one.

I have accidently left the side gate open on our yard multiple times, only to find my dog happily in the front yard watching pedestrians walk by. If she wanted to run away she could have multiple times. She chooses to stay.
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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How does that differ from you working 10 hours a day in an office, school or building sight
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Cause humans are the most enslaved species on the planet and we love it cause we don't know or we fear to learn the alternative.
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
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Yeah, I call bullshit on that one.

I have accidently left the side gate open on our yard multiple times, only to find my dog happily in the front yard watching pedestrians walk by. If she wanted to run away she could have multiple times. She chooses to stay.
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Has you dog grow up in a house with you, or it was free for many years and you just got it?
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Has you dog grow up in a house with you, or it was free for many years and you just got it?
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What's the difference?

She was a pound puppy and an abused dog and we've had her for 3 years. She's an amazing creature and we are very lucky to have her in our lives.
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Besides the eating, we are all omnivorous after all, i always thought that, having an animal in your house as a pet, no matter what kind of animal cat, dog, bird in a cage or fish in a tank, is bad for them. We never asked them (how can we ask them after all), if they want to be locked in an apartment or a house etc just for our entertainment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6925857


How does that differ from you working 10 hours a day in an office, school or building sight
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Cause humans are the most enslaved species on the planet and we love it cause we don't know or we fear to learn the alternative.
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The chance for us to be free is closing rapidly (if not already closed)

We as humans are no more than a virus unleashed against the world. Our next step is to become Air Bourne or we will be like fleas that killed the dog they lived on. Even then, If we become 'AIR BOURNE' and infect everything we touch and occupy, What then?????? We know we cannot stay here on this earth indefinitely but we also need to know we cant destroy everything we touch. A great mindset change is needed for us to survive but with our current thinking I think we might be doomed!!
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If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meet...
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If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meet...
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He didn't make them out of "meet".
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The chance for us to be free is closing rapidly (if not already closed)

We as humans are no more than a virus unleashed against the world. Our next step is to become Air Bourne or we will be like fleas that killed the dog they lived on. Even then, If we become 'AIR BOURNE' and infect everything we touch and occupy, What then?????? We know we cannot stay here on this earth indefinitely but we also need to know we cant destroy everything we touch. A great mindset change is needed for us to survive but with our current thinking I think we might be doomed!!
 Quoting: mr2


Well said. I thought of each of us in this world today when I was at the Grocery Store and there was a very large (overweight) family with Mom, Dad, 10ish year old very heavy son, and they had 3 carts of food. I thought about the impact of each one of us and how some leave a much bigger footprint than others, though we are all definitely guilty.

mr2, do you think we can get our shit straightened out before we destroy ourselves and the rest of our world? Somehow I feel like we are so selfish and materialistic as a species that we'd rather kill ourselves and our entire environment than give up most of our creature "comforts."
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This is embarassing . Please dont post idiot threads like this on international forums . You make australians look like retards !!!!

Dont say anything if you cant say something intelligent and contructive . No wonder australians have a bad name as far as intelligence goes .
Sheesh !!
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If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meet...
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He didn't make them out of "meet".
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True, still a good gag though...
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This is embarassing . Please dont post idiot threads like this on international forums . You make australians look like retards !!!!

Dont say anything if you cant say something intelligent and contructive . No wonder australians have a bad name as far as intelligence goes .
Sheesh !!
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:gormidfing:

even idiots have the right to post an argument. Even if it's just to provoke thought and discussion.
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This is embarassing . Please dont post idiot threads like this on international forums . You make australians look like retards !!!!

Dont say anything if you cant say something intelligent and contructive . No wonder australians have a bad name as far as intelligence goes .
Sheesh !!
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lighten up sparkybutt
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The chance for us to be free is closing rapidly (if not already closed)

We as humans are no more than a virus unleashed against the world. Our next step is to become Air Bourne or we will be like fleas that killed the dog they lived on. Even then, If we become 'AIR BOURNE' and infect everything we touch and occupy, What then?????? We know we cannot stay here on this earth indefinitely but we also need to know we cant destroy everything we touch. A great mindset change is needed for us to survive but with our current thinking I think we might be doomed!!
 Quoting: mr2


Well said. I thought of each of us in this world today when I was at the Grocery Store and there was a very large (overweight) family with Mom, Dad, 10ish year old very heavy son, and they had 3 carts of food. I thought about the impact of each one of us and how some leave a much bigger footprint than others, though we are all definitely guilty.

mr2, do you think we can get our shit straightened out before we destroy ourselves and the rest of our world? Somehow I feel like we are so selfish and materialistic as a species that we'd rather kill ourselves and our entire environment than give up most of our creature "comforts."
 Quoting: Doomish


I dont think anyone knows.verysad



This is what we need to be fighting for, but I personally feel it will never happen. Build you bunker now!!!!ohyeah
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By the same token, we are all killing each other. Should I eat you? You probably have more nutritional value than a hog.
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Thanks for the info Captain Obvious.
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By the same token, we are all killing each other. Should I eat you? You probably have more nutritional value than a hog.
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And yes , if it came down to you and my kids???? BBQ and blog time... Tastes like chicken.....



Is this where we are heading??? Is this what we want in life???


We need to start thinking long term as a species or we are seriously fucked. All this bullshit we are worried about now is nothing compared to extinction, and that is where we are heading at the most alarming pace, even in global history standards.
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This is embarassing . Please dont post idiot threads like this on international forums . You make australians look like retards !!!!

Dont say anything if you cant say something intelligent and contructive . No wonder australians have a bad name as far as intelligence goes .
Sheesh !!
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irratable bowl syndrome much hmmm?
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