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For the vegetarians/vegans/animal lovers etc.

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/11/2011 04:42 AM
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I don't want them to live in this nightmare overpopulated world. Besides, someone has to set an example.
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But in the same reply you said that you could not do anything to change the world. And yet you believe you are by having no kids. Thats cognitive dissonance (or crazy to the lay person).
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


Yeah, strictly speaking I did contradict myself.
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12/11/2011 04:44 AM
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Why are you bashing the more planet friendly diet while claiming to care about the planet ?
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As I already said, at least when you have cows/sheep roaming the fields and paddocks, other animals are living alongside them. That is not the case when you are growing your lettuces etc.

So which is really the more planet friendly diet?
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animals and farms are meant to go together. they fertilize the soil and we get to eat the vegetables, fruits, grains, and meat produced by the farm.
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12/11/2011 04:46 AM
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And we are??

History pretty much says a planet is fucked. Pick a planet.... any planet..

I'm sure if pandas could get off this rock they would be long gone!
 Quoting: mr2


Yep we are. We are just ignorant.

No need to hurry things along just for a few extra $.

You can either leave, or do something. Other than implementing population controls (which no one would adhere to), I dont see any solutions.
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.



So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


LOL ok whatever makes you feel better just know in your heart your wrong ok ...bye
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Yeah, strictly speaking I did contradict myself.
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No big deal. Least you admit when you are wrong and that means you are a person who is at least willing to grow and learn.

So :)

Last Edited by Scuba7 on 12/11/2011 04:50 AM
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LOL ok whatever makes you feel better just know in your heart your wrong ok ...bye
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6899589


Another fool that has no real life and out of pure boredom gets sucked into following other sheeple.

Sorry, but just because your group is bigger, dont mean you are in the right.
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Why are you bashing the more planet friendly diet while claiming to care about the planet ?
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As I already said, at least when you have cows/sheep roaming the fields and paddocks, other animals are living alongside them. That is not the case when you are growing your lettuces etc.

So which is really the more planet friendly diet?
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


You do realize that the cow/sheep need to eat a lot of "lettuce", and you take 10 times the space from the real nature and the wild animals ?

They have been cutting down the rain forrests to be able to grow food for animals that we eat...

Thats not planet friendly
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.



So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


LOL ok whatever makes you feel better just know in your heart your wrong ok ...bye
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6899589



OP is wrong at so many levels, but to say we don't have, as a spices, a huge impact on our environment is just sticking your head up your arse. 7 billion consumers world wide CONSUME!!!!!
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


But by being a veggie, i contribute to LESS suffering.

And just to straighten things out, i don't go mouthing off to anyone. And i don't think i'm high and mighty as it happens.

I keep my eating habits to myself.

Others are free to eat what they will. You can eat shit for all i care.
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12/11/2011 05:00 AM
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Sorry, but just because your group is bigger, dont mean you are in the right.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


No, its not bigger, its your logic that is flawed, thats why no one is helping you.
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12/11/2011 05:01 AM
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LOL ok whatever makes you feel better just know in your heart your wrong ok ...bye
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6899589


Another fool that has no real life and out of pure boredom gets sucked into following other sheeple.

Sorry, but just because your group is bigger, dont mean you are in the right.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


LOL ok whatever makes you feel better just know in your heart your wrong ok ...bye
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12/11/2011 05:08 AM
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


um who's mouthing off?i eat what i eat through personal choice,what you or anyone else want to do is up to you.i know nutritionists who are meat free purely for health reasons,nothing to do with animal welfare.thank god most people dont think like you!we all get what your saying,but if no one ever mad choices they thought were right where would be?ive got to wonder why you feel so strongly about what other people eat that you have to spend your time on here mouthing off and trying to be clever about it?
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


How stupid are you? You do all of the above plus butcher thousands of animals a year to eat. So who's the worst killer of animals? No don't answer that, your brain cell will implode.
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12/11/2011 05:16 AM
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No, its not bigger, its your logic that is flawed, thats why no one is helping you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5051820


I dont want help. I am not asking for help.
I just want you to see that we are destroying the planet and until we stop having so many kids, we are all to blame.

Lets all agree that we need to have 2 kids maximum?!

lol cos I know that 90% of humanity is too selfish to even agree on that.
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So who's the worst killer of animals? No don't answer that, your brain cell will implode.
 Quoting: Destiny 2023


Yep, its all about who is the worst.

That is what irresponsible people do, look for someone worse to take the blame.

Last Edited by Scuba7 on 12/11/2011 05:22 AM
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No, its not bigger, its your logic that is flawed, thats why no one is helping you.
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I dont want help. I am not asking for help.
I just want you to see that we are destroying the planet and until we stop having so many kids, we are all to blame.

Lets all agree that we need to have 2 kids maximum?!

lol cos I know that 90% of humanity is too selfish to even agree on that.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


Then I suggest that you make a new thread and name it properly
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12/11/2011 05:29 AM
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still no reason to eat meat :)
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12/11/2011 05:33 AM
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


You are the one who seems to be mouthing off. You eat meat, congratulations, you want a badge? Being a vegitarian is just anorher way of living your life, let people do as they please. Get a brian you moran!
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12/11/2011 05:38 AM
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


Think you are partly missing the point. I think most vegan/vegetarians don't like the thought of consuming the flesh of another animal. I for one am not vegan/vegetarian but also don't go out of my way to eat meat every day. Why? Because it has a tremendous environmental impact on this planet to raise cattle/whatever just for consuming.
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[link to www.petakillsanimals.com]



Year
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 89.9%
2004 2,655 1 361 13.60% 2,278 85.8%
2003 2,224 1 312 14.03% 1,911 85.9%
2002 2,680 2 382 14.25% 2,298 85.7%
2001 2,685 14 703 26.18% 1,944 72.4%
2000 2,681 28 624 23.27% 2,029 75.7%
1999 1,805 91 386 21.39% 1,328 73.6%
1998* 943 125 133 14.10% 685 72.6%
Total 29,823 54
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


Think you are partly missing the point. I think most vegan/vegetarians don't like the thought of consuming the flesh of another animal. I for one am not vegan/vegetarian but also don't go out of my way to eat meat every day. Why? Because it has a tremendous environmental impact on this planet to raise cattle/whatever just for consuming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 975472


Also not to mention that eating meat was once considered a delicacy, not something that was partaken everyday.
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Because it has a tremendous environmental impact on this planet to raise cattle/whatever just for consuming.
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So eat mutton/lamb.

As well as the meat you get the wool. So you are getting two for the price of one.
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Also not to mention that eating meat was once considered a delicacy, not something that was partaken everyday.
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Even cavemen ate meat so when exactly did it go out of fashion, only to come back into fashion some time later?
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Hey Einstein (Einstein supported a vegetarian lifestyle, btw),

Any words of wisdom for those of us who don't eat meat for health reasons? Please feel free to misinform all of us about the disadvantageous of not consuming meat.... the floor is yours ;)
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still no reason to eat meat :)
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It tastes nice.
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Hey Einstein (Einstein supported a vegetarian lifestyle, btw),

Any words of wisdom for those of us who don't eat meat for health reasons? Please feel free to misinform all of us about the disadvantageous of not consuming meat.... the floor is yours ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3566959


You mean because you cannot or because people have told you it is bad to do so?
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Get a brian you moran!
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I had an uncle Brian.
He dead now.
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Also not to mention that eating meat was once considered a delicacy, not something that was partaken everyday.
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Even cavemen ate meat so when exactly did it go out of fashion, only to come back into fashion some time later?
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


d'uh! Cavemen ate meat because they didn't have the savvy to cultivate fields. Are you sure you're not a cavemen who's been defrosted?
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Just so you guys know, as long as you are alive and kicking, you are harming animals.

You build a house, you contribute to the death of some animals. 2 millions acres of land is lost each year in the US due to urbanization.

You drive a car, you contribute to the death of some animals (roads, pollution etc).

You eat salads (no meats), you contribute to the death of some animals (perhaps even more so than if you ate meat).

You wear cotton, you contribute to the death of a shit load of animals. The cattle that live next to a cotton farm are usually too infected with pesticide to be sold for human consumption. Cotton fields are deserts.

You cannot escape it. All we can do is learn to live with animals and respect them for what they are.

So please do not go mouthing off because you think you are high and mighty, because you are not.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2


If that helps you sleep at night then good for you.

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