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Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?

 
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Seems that astrological signs is the topic of the day, so I will throw my question out there.

I have had a really rough few years, really rough. Lots of challenges and difficulties.

Seems all the other Virgos I have come across lately have experienced the same thing.

What's the deal? Anybody else having this issue?
 Quoting: Salt


I havent had any luck fucking Virgo women recently. Does that count? lol
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hahaha, well, i doubt it.
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Seems that astrological signs is the topic of the day, so I will throw my question out there.

I have had a really rough few years, really rough. Lots of challenges and difficulties.

Seems all the other Virgos I have come across lately have experienced the same thing.

What's the deal? Anybody else having this issue?
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I havent had any luck fucking Virgo women recently. Does that count? lol
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whats your sign? hahahahahaha
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Seems that astrological signs is the topic of the day, so I will throw my question out there.

I have had a really rough few years, really rough. Lots of challenges and difficulties.

Seems all the other Virgos I have come across lately have experienced the same thing.

What's the deal? Anybody else having this issue?
 Quoting: Salt


I havent had any luck fucking Virgo women recently. Does that count? lol
 Quoting: Ghenghy


whats your sign? hahahahahaha
 Quoting: Salt


Leo :)
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Seems that astrological signs is the topic of the day, so I will throw my question out there.

I have had a really rough few years, really rough. Lots of challenges and difficulties.

Seems all the other Virgos I have come across lately have experienced the same thing.

What's the deal? Anybody else having this issue?
 Quoting: Salt


I havent had any luck fucking Virgo women recently. Does that count? lol
 Quoting: Ghenghy


whats your sign? hahahahahaha
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Leo :)
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well, there it is... ;]
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oh gawd

Your astrological year, birthday to birthday from 2011 until the same point in 2012, is a significant one. You are singled out for cosmic attention in several ways, not least the visit of Mars to your constellation between November 11, 2011 and July 3, 2012. This is a stay of nearly eight months when, to put matters in perspective, two months proves more typical. The reason for this lengthy sojourn is the retrograde cycle of Mars. Due to the celestial dynamics inherent in our geocentric view of the universe each planet has a phase when for a while, it appears to move backwards through the zodiac as the Earth either passes or is overtaken by it, since both in reality orbit the Sun.

Mars is less often retrograde than any planet except Venus, at only 10% of the time and for between 57-81 days on each occasion. The 81 days between January 24 and April 14, 2012 that Mars is retrograde in your sign is no minor event and helps set the context for those remaining four months this year when Mars assumes a different sign position. Nothing comparable has happened since 1965 and won’t be seen again for eighty years, meaning this is a once in a lifetime experience for many younger than their middle forties. But what is the relevance in terms of where you’re heading now? Mars is named after the Roman god of war, known to the Greeks as Ares. These days, this warlike association is considered a less favourable manifestation, but it is a real possibility if other links suggest something similar…

Mars means energy, especially physical energy that can be harnessed during vigorous activity for instance, or applied to your work. It doesn’t suit intellectual pursuits so well, but the courage and assertiveness you’ll need in business for example, are bolstered and can be used to your advantage, if you’re unable to indulge your sporting preference or otherwise escape to the gym.

[link to www.astrologywizard.com]
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Extremely trying 3 years. Worst of my life.

Husband of 26 years died of cancer in 2009.
One adult son got two women pregnant.
Another adult son stole 6000 from my mother.
My brother had 2 bells palsey strokes.
My mother fell and fractured her pelvis.
My mother almost died in April due to sepsis
My mother was diagnosed with vascular dementia.
I had to withdraw from RN school.
I had to pack up 25 years worth of stuff and move from my home to care for my mother.
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I havent had any luck fucking Virgo women recently. Does that count? lol
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whats your sign? hahahahahaha
 Quoting: Salt


Leo :)
 Quoting: Ghenghy


well, there it is... ;]
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haha That aint the half of it!
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Extremely trying 3 years. Worst of my life.

Husband of 26 years died of cancer in 2009.
One adult son got two women pregnant.
Another adult son stole 6000 from my mother.
My brother had 2 bells palsey strokes.
My mother fell and fractured her pelvis.
My mother almost died in April due to sepsis
My mother was diagnosed with vascular dementia.
I had to withdraw from RN school.
I had to pack up 25 years worth of stuff and move from my home to care for my mother.
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holy smokes. i am so sorry, darlin. wow...

may God move his finger in your direction for 2012
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Re: Speaking of Astrological signs, any other Virgos coming off a bad luck streak that has lasted more than 3 years?
Extremely trying 3 years. Worst of my life.

Husband of 26 years died of cancer in 2009.
One adult son got two women pregnant.
Another adult son stole 6000 from my mother.
My brother had 2 bells palsey strokes.
My mother fell and fractured her pelvis.
My mother almost died in April due to sepsis
My mother was diagnosed with vascular dementia.
I had to withdraw from RN school.
I had to pack up 25 years worth of stuff and move from my home to care for my mother.
 Quoting: BereftOne


holy smokes. i am so sorry, darlin. wow...

may God move his finger in your direction for 2012
 Quoting: Salt


Double Virgo.

Moon in cancer.

Neptune plowing into Saturn.


Yuk.
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oh gawd

Your astrological year, birthday to birthday from 2011 until the same point in 2012, is a significant one. You are singled out for cosmic attention in several ways, not least the visit of Mars to your constellation between November 11, 2011 and July 3, 2012. This is a stay of nearly eight months when, to put matters in perspective, two months proves more typical. The reason for this lengthy sojourn is the retrograde cycle of Mars. Due to the celestial dynamics inherent in our geocentric view of the universe each planet has a phase when for a while, it appears to move backwards through the zodiac as the Earth either passes or is overtaken by it, since both in reality orbit the Sun.

Mars is less often retrograde than any planet except Venus, at only 10% of the time and for between 57-81 days on each occasion. The 81 days between January 24 and April 14, 2012 that Mars is retrograde in your sign is no minor event and helps set the context for those remaining four months this year when Mars assumes a different sign position. Nothing comparable has happened since 1965 and won’t be seen again for eighty years, meaning this is a once in a lifetime experience for many younger than their middle forties. But what is the relevance in terms of where you’re heading now? Mars is named after the Roman god of war, known to the Greeks as Ares. These days, this warlike association is considered a less favourable manifestation, but it is a real possibility if other links suggest something similar…

Mars means energy, especially physical energy that can be harnessed during vigorous activity for instance, or applied to your work. It doesn’t suit intellectual pursuits so well, but the courage and assertiveness you’ll need in business for example, are bolstered and can be used to your advantage, if you’re unable to indulge your sporting preference or otherwise escape to the gym.

[link to www.astrologywizard.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hang on, how the heck did I miss this earlier. Salty, are you telling me that you are a Virgo FEMALE, and you believe in Astrology? Well, I can die a happy man now cause I have seen it all. lol
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oh gawd

Your astrological year, birthday to birthday from 2011 until the same point in 2012, is a significant one. You are singled out for cosmic attention in several ways, not least the visit of Mars to your constellation between November 11, 2011 and July 3, 2012. This is a stay of nearly eight months when, to put matters in perspective, two months proves more typical. The reason for this lengthy sojourn is the retrograde cycle of Mars. Due to the celestial dynamics inherent in our geocentric view of the universe each planet has a phase when for a while, it appears to move backwards through the zodiac as the Earth either passes or is overtaken by it, since both in reality orbit the Sun.

Mars is less often retrograde than any planet except Venus, at only 10% of the time and for between 57-81 days on each occasion. The 81 days between January 24 and April 14, 2012 that Mars is retrograde in your sign is no minor event and helps set the context for those remaining four months this year when Mars assumes a different sign position. Nothing comparable has happened since 1965 and won’t be seen again for eighty years, meaning this is a once in a lifetime experience for many younger than their middle forties. But what is the relevance in terms of where you’re heading now? Mars is named after the Roman god of war, known to the Greeks as Ares. These days, this warlike association is considered a less favourable manifestation, but it is a real possibility if other links suggest something similar…

Mars means energy, especially physical energy that can be harnessed during vigorous activity for instance, or applied to your work. It doesn’t suit intellectual pursuits so well, but the courage and assertiveness you’ll need in business for example, are bolstered and can be used to your advantage, if you’re unable to indulge your sporting preference or otherwise escape to the gym.

[link to www.astrologywizard.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hang on, how the heck did I miss this earlier. Salty, are you telling me that you are a Virgo FEMALE, and you believe in Astrology? Well, I can die a happy man now cause I have seen it all. lol
 Quoting: Ghenghy


you know, to be honest, i am not sure there is one accurate astrologer out there. And, i think there are 12 categories of personality "types" described by the zodiac. but, i'm not sure that there is enough merit to suggest that horoscopes can predict the future, or divine trends.

...i am female, that part is certain.

lol
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oh gawd

Your astrological year, birthday to birthday from 2011 until the same point in 2012, is a significant one. You are singled out for cosmic attention in several ways, not least the visit of Mars to your constellation between November 11, 2011 and July 3, 2012. This is a stay of nearly eight months when, to put matters in perspective, two months proves more typical. The reason for this lengthy sojourn is the retrograde cycle of Mars. Due to the celestial dynamics inherent in our geocentric view of the universe each planet has a phase when for a while, it appears to move backwards through the zodiac as the Earth either passes or is overtaken by it, since both in reality orbit the Sun.

Mars is less often retrograde than any planet except Venus, at only 10% of the time and for between 57-81 days on each occasion. The 81 days between January 24 and April 14, 2012 that Mars is retrograde in your sign is no minor event and helps set the context for those remaining four months this year when Mars assumes a different sign position. Nothing comparable has happened since 1965 and won’t be seen again for eighty years, meaning this is a once in a lifetime experience for many younger than their middle forties. But what is the relevance in terms of where you’re heading now? Mars is named after the Roman god of war, known to the Greeks as Ares. These days, this warlike association is considered a less favourable manifestation, but it is a real possibility if other links suggest something similar…

Mars means energy, especially physical energy that can be harnessed during vigorous activity for instance, or applied to your work. It doesn’t suit intellectual pursuits so well, but the courage and assertiveness you’ll need in business for example, are bolstered and can be used to your advantage, if you’re unable to indulge your sporting preference or otherwise escape to the gym.

[link to www.astrologywizard.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hang on, how the heck did I miss this earlier. Salty, are you telling me that you are a Virgo FEMALE, and you believe in Astrology? Well, I can die a happy man now cause I have seen it all. lol
 Quoting: Ghenghy


you know, to be honest, i am not sure there is one accurate astrologer out there. And, i think there are 12 categories of personality "types" described by the zodiac. but, i'm not sure that there is enough merit to suggest that horoscopes can predict the future, or divine trends.

...i am female, that part is certain.

lol
 Quoting: Salt


I dabbled seriously for several years. Horoscopes and stuff like "the year ahead" are strictly for entertainment only.

Here ya go, download this trial software from Adrian Duncan. Run your numbers and you will be amazed.... amazed at the output. BTW, this is a full suite of software, only printing is disabled. Have fun.

[link to www.world-of-wisdom.com]
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oh gawd

Your astrological year, birthday to birthday from 2011 until the same point in 2012, is a significant one. You are singled out for cosmic attention in several ways, not least the visit of Mars to your constellation between November 11, 2011 and July 3, 2012. This is a stay of nearly eight months when, to put matters in perspective, two months proves more typical. The reason for this lengthy sojourn is the retrograde cycle of Mars. Due to the celestial dynamics inherent in our geocentric view of the universe each planet has a phase when for a while, it appears to move backwards through the zodiac as the Earth either passes or is overtaken by it, since both in reality orbit the Sun.

Mars is less often retrograde than any planet except Venus, at only 10% of the time and for between 57-81 days on each occasion. The 81 days between January 24 and April 14, 2012 that Mars is retrograde in your sign is no minor event and helps set the context for those remaining four months this year when Mars assumes a different sign position. Nothing comparable has happened since 1965 and won’t be seen again for eighty years, meaning this is a once in a lifetime experience for many younger than their middle forties. But what is the relevance in terms of where you’re heading now? Mars is named after the Roman god of war, known to the Greeks as Ares. These days, this warlike association is considered a less favourable manifestation, but it is a real possibility if other links suggest something similar…

Mars means energy, especially physical energy that can be harnessed during vigorous activity for instance, or applied to your work. It doesn’t suit intellectual pursuits so well, but the courage and assertiveness you’ll need in business for example, are bolstered and can be used to your advantage, if you’re unable to indulge your sporting preference or otherwise escape to the gym.

[link to www.astrologywizard.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hang on, how the heck did I miss this earlier. Salty, are you telling me that you are a Virgo FEMALE, and you believe in Astrology? Well, I can die a happy man now cause I have seen it all. lol
 Quoting: Ghenghy


you know, to be honest, i am not sure there is one accurate astrologer out there. And, i think there are 12 categories of personality "types" described by the zodiac. but, i'm not sure that there is enough merit to suggest that horoscopes can predict the future, or divine trends.

...i am female, that part is certain.

lol
 Quoting: Salt


I dabbled seriously for several years. Horoscopes and stuff like "the year ahead" are strictly for entertainment only.

Here ya go, download this trial software from Adrian Duncan. Run your numbers and you will be amazed.... amazed at the output. BTW, this is a full suite of software, only printing is disabled. Have fun.

[link to www.world-of-wisdom.com]
 Quoting: Ghenghy


hf
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Try being a gemini. Bad luck from birth till death. Good luck virgo : )
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Try being a gemini. Bad luck from birth till death. Good luck virgo : )
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heh heh... my son is a gemini
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Try being a gemini. Bad luck from birth till death. Good luck virgo : )
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Which one of you is having the bad luck?
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that's funny you say 3 years because that's exactly where everything went downhill and stayed that way. fml.
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my husband was a Leo. twas an interesting pair we made...
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my husband was a Leo. twas an interesting pair we made...
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
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my husband was a Leo. twas an interesting pair we made...
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
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yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
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my husband was a Leo. twas an interesting pair we made...
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
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yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
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I am so sorry to hear that. We have more in common than you might think.
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my husband was a Leo. twas an interesting pair we made...
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
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yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
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I am so sorry to hear that. We have more in common than you might think.
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i think i am a virgo with leo rising. wonder if that means anything.

i just looked at 2012 for virgos, and it looks like a lot of bad things still on the way.

ugh, i give up
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
 Quoting: Ghenghy


yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
 Quoting: Salt


I am so sorry to hear that. We have more in common than you might think.
 Quoting: Ghenghy


i think i am a virgo with leo rising. wonder if that means anything.

i just looked at 2012 for virgos, and it looks like a lot of bad things still on the way.

ugh, i give up
 Quoting: Salt


Yeah, that means your personality is Leo... tempered somewhat. But that would explain an attraction to Leos.
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Whew, that was tough wasn't it? Sparks.... major sparks. : )

I had to rent a virtual office in Hong Kong a year ago to make my GF (Virgo) think I'd moved to friggin China. LOL
 Quoting: Ghenghy


yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
 Quoting: Salt


I am so sorry to hear that. We have more in common than you might think.
 Quoting: Ghenghy


i think i am a virgo with leo rising. wonder if that means anything.

i just looked at 2012 for virgos, and it looks like a lot of bad things still on the way.

ugh, i give up

 Quoting: Salt

Hey Salt, You gotta link?
I'd like to check mine out!

And we'll have NONE OF THAT GIVIN UP STUFFhf
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yeah, i thought he was my soulmate. but, he passed away this past january... so ....
 Quoting: Salt


I am so sorry to hear that. We have more in common than you might think.
 Quoting: Ghenghy


i think i am a virgo with leo rising. wonder if that means anything.

i just looked at 2012 for virgos, and it looks like a lot of bad things still on the way.

ugh, i give up

 Quoting: Salt

Hey Salt, You gotta link?
I'd like to check mine out!

And we'll have NONE OF THAT GIVIN UP STUFFhf
 Quoting: DoodleBug


[link to www.astrologywizard.com]

if you scroll to bottom right, there is a place to change the sign.
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ok, i guess its not that bad. just gotta stay focused and don't get in heated arguments with troublesome people....


i really, really, really (25 reallies) need some good juju to come my way....


no, really
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i have had a lot of extreme things happen. i made it thru it all, but jeez, i am ready for a good streak.
 Quoting: Salt


Good streak is on the rise:

The book: "Astrology for Enlightenment" by Michelle Karen

It looks like smooth sailing from 2012-2019 for Virgos.
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I'm seeing it. Bout time.
Our kind, tidy organized, conservative, critical, perfectionist, clean, strong-
Not so popular in today's culture, LOLOLOL.
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U betcha, totally not my type, Id run from a virgo or vice versa. lol ..Im a dirty clutterbug Capricorn, Not all Capricorns are messy, some are very clean, but every Capricorn is a ultimate hoarder, human squirrel and shopper

We try and be organize, but think floor to ceiling boxes that fall on top of people.

lol
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I have no virgos in my life and no friends who are. Ive had every other sign, but virgos the least. which Im curious why
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I have no virgos in my life and no friends who are. Ive had every other sign, but virgos the least. which Im curious why
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i have had a lot of extreme things happen. i made it thru it all, but jeez, i am ready for a good streak.
 Quoting: Salt


Good streak is on the rise:

The book: "Astrology for Enlightenment" by Michelle Karen

It looks like smooth sailing from 2012-2019 for Virgos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527197


I'm seeing it. Bout time.
Our kind, tidy organized, conservative, critical, perfectionist, clean, strong-
Not so popular in today's culture, LOLOLOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6414988


U betcha, totally not my type, Id run from a virgo or vice versa. lol ..Im a dirty clutterbug Capricorn, Not all Capricorns are messy, some are very clean, but every Capricorn is a ultimate hoarder, human squirrel and shopper

We try and be organize, but think floor to ceiling boxes that fall on top of people.

lol
 Quoting: APOLLYON ILLUMINATUS


yeah, clutter is horrible. won't have any of it. i am a minimalist. not quite as militant as people would think. but clutter and dirt (especially human dirt) makes my eye twitch, lol

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