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Question to pro-multiculturalist people !

 
Doomwaffles

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12/13/2011 09:14 AM

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Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Why are you yourself not moving abroad instead of importing it here ?
that would be the least selfish thing to do ...
If you love other cultures so much that you feel you need to be part of it, or it part of your own experience
what is stopping you from getting a one way plainticket ?
Why do you insist everyone else should pay for bringing it here instead?

Because you are selfish !
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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 09:16 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Why are you yourself not moving abroad instead of importing it here ?
that would be the least selfish thing to do ...
If you love other cultures so much that you feel you need to be part of it, or it part of your own experience
what is stopping you from getting a one way plainticket ?
Why do you insist everyone else should pay for bringing it here instead?

Because you are selfish !
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


apart from kebab shops ... is there any REAL positive thing you can bring to the table ?
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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 09:22 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
I'll make it into a more approachable open question :
" What has multiculturalism done for you ?"

To me :
it means I get the stinkeye from mostly muzzie immigrants
I have to pay more taxes to support their 7 children while the parents are already on benefits
I have to put up a verbal fight with random people on public transit that feel I'l not allowed to look at them
My "fritkots" have been replaced by kebab shop (if we are talking indigestion, one is no competition to the other ...)
I have morrocan gangs calling my daughter a white whore for not wearing a veil ..
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12/13/2011 09:41 AM
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Well. For starters, you're in Belgium. You remember? One of "the small countries?" You guys aren't well suited for multiculturalism and what most of you "small country" people envision when someone says "multiculturalism" is really "cultural assimilationism."

Multiculturalism works great in a country larger than 2 city blocks that has a well-educated population. The US *USED* to be a multiculturalist country until after WW2 when we put fluoride in the water, killed our public education system, brainwashed our population with paranoid game theory and cold war red scares and got stuck on stupid. Now we're just a giant cultural assimliationist tub of morbidly obese goo and it is cultural assimiliationism which destroyed the Roman empire.

You are correct in that a hodge-podge of cultures all mixed up in the same soup doesn't work, but when each culture is treated like an ingredient on a cooking show....IE, each individual spice in it's own little ramekin all neatly laid out next to each other on the chef's table...it works great. Little Italy a few blocks over from Chinatown and the Arab Quarter only a quick metrotube ride away. I think that would be awesome.

I don't want to take a one way ticket to any of those cultures home countries because I like my own culture just fine. I also like being able to experience other cultures without having to be wealthy enough to fly. I've never made enough money to take a vacation more than 2 States away in my entire life. So I like the opportunity to see and experience how other cultures live and develop without having to be in the higher income categories and still be able to fall asleep surrounded by my own culture at the end of the day.

So, to me it simply sounds like you are a racist, OP. Which doesn't surprise me as most "small country" people are virulently xenophobic.
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Like I said in the other post, that kind of arguments are bullshit arguments from fake left wing parties/people. Like the social democrats, greens.

The elite likes to get immigrants over here (Turkish and Moroccan for the 70-80's especially) to lower to wages or because they can't find anybody for their low wage stink jobs (while a real free market = if nobody wants your stupid job, you have to raise the wage, instead of importing poorer people. But they only like the "invisible hand" when it's good for their profits).

Then all these immigrants take over the place original poor people (a lot of the problem neighborhoods now, used to be problem neighborhoods some decennia ago). In these times 50% of the immigrant youngsters can be happy that they have a low wage frustrating job, a few work up in society, a bit more turn to heavy criminality, and the other are bored to death and frustrated on the streets (those are the insulting, stealing guys). They feel frustrated and blame everything on western society (which is partially correct!) and turn to their "ethnic" (although it really isn't) ideas, Muslim fundamentalism (while must of them break Islamic rules constantly).

And the politicians just don't have an answer for the mess they created, that's why they come up with this kind of shit. Just like they didn't have an answer for the problems the poorer people caused decades ago. This system always is an a permanent state of crisis. And there will not be a solution as long as they don't create a system were people have jobs and opportunities to create wealth. Sending the immigrants back isn't going to solve it to btw, because European people will just replace them as lower poor classes (but I'm not against a harder immigration policy, we have to solve the mess first, letting to many other people in will just make it worse).
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They call your daughter a whore for not wearing a veil? That just makes me wild with anger! redface I'd love to get these immigrants and ship them back to wherever they came from. I fear for the future of now stable countries as they import more of these volatile religeons into their cultures.
Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 09:52 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Well. For starters, you're in Belgium. You remember? One of "the small countries?" You guys aren't well suited for multiculturalism and what most of you "small country" people envision when someone says "multiculturalism" is really "cultural assimilationism."

Multiculturalism works great in a country larger than 2 city blocks that has a well-educated population. The US *USED* to be a multiculturalist country until after WW2 when we put fluoride in the water, killed our public education system, brainwashed our population with paranoid game theory and cold war red scares and got stuck on stupid. Now we're just a giant cultural assimliationist tub of morbidly obese goo and it is cultural assimiliationism which destroyed the Roman empire.

You are correct in that a hodge-podge of cultures all mixed up in the same soup doesn't work, but when each culture is treated like an ingredient on a cooking show....IE, each individual spice in it's own little ramekin all neatly laid out next to each other on the chef's table...it works great. Little Italy a few blocks over from Chinatown and the Arab Quarter only a quick metrotube ride away. I think that would be awesome.

I don't want to take a one way ticket to any of those cultures home countries because I like my own culture just fine. I also like being able to experience other cultures without having to be wealthy enough to fly. I've never made enough money to take a vacation more than 2 States away in my entire life. So I like the opportunity to see and experience how other cultures live and develop without having to be in the higher income categories and still be able to fall asleep surrounded by my own culture at the end of the day.

So, to me it simply sounds like you are a racist, OP. Which doesn't surprise me as most "small country" people are virulently xenophobic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1093617


small country, no refute
that it is
yet the same country that happens to host nato and the un
About muliculturalism , that one i should refute
we where in fact bred and raised for it having three official languages and two seperately governed halfs of the same country with a distinctly different approach in rule and government (wallon-flanders)

In fact multiculturalism actually did work here, for a short time, before the time we started feeling guilty about not letting families (that never even knew about one another !! ) rejoin their "belgian" families
It wasn't a problem untill the moment each and every belgian started to feel as if they owed these people something ..
lets rule out slavetrade by the beginning, because most of those people i'm talkign about is what afrocentrists call arabs (each and every non-white/-asian/-negroid person ...)
The time where you could hold your head up high and be proud to be Belgian , now if you hld your head up high telling youare proud of being a belgian you are called a rascist or an extremely right winged person ..oh well, if that is the label I was meant to endure JUST for being proud of my heritage, then I shall do so with pride.


thing is that once you mix explosive and reactive elements ,
you WILL get an explosion at some point
I can't personally help to feel endangered by this excess of muslim immigrants, yet i have teh fight instead of flight tendency ...

personally, i merely resent having immigrants come here and EXPECT to be welcome !
in most cases they are not
for instance, the long line at the Antwerp immigration office where muslim immigrants EVEN BEFORE THEY ARE EVEN ADMITTED start to throw rocks at chassideeem (jewish) children!
they are not even admitted into the country yet they are already proving they are not apt enough to live here and abide to its law !
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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 09:53 AM

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They call your daughter a whore for not wearing a veil? That just makes me wild with anger! redface I'd love to get these immigrants and ship them back to wherever they came from. I fear for the future of now stable countries as they import more of these volatile religeons into their cultures.
 Quoting: Crankgorilla


oh trust me
I have gotten extremely angry with some when I actually witnessed it for myself
the thing is , i got so angry that I felt secure enough to approach that little gang
and they didn't feel brave enough to respond to me face to face... (yes! they ran !)
just a telltale sign that the moment you show you fear them, its their cue to gang up on you,

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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 09:58 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Like I said in the other post, that kind of arguments are bullshit arguments from fake left wing parties/people. Like the social democrats, greens.

The elite likes to get immigrants over here (Turkish and Moroccan for the 70-80's especially) to lower to wages or because they can't find anybody for their low wage stink jobs (while a real free market = if nobody wants your stupid job, you have to raise the wage, instead of importing poorer people. But they only like the "invisible hand" when it's good for their profits).

Then all these immigrants take over the place original poor people (a lot of the problem neighborhoods now, used to be problem neighborhoods some decennia ago). In these times 50% of the immigrant youngsters can be happy that they have a low wage frustrating job, a few work up in society, a bit more turn to heavy criminality, and the other are bored to death and frustrated on the streets (those are the insulting, stealing guys). They feel frustrated and blame everything on western society (which is partially correct!) and turn to their "ethnic" (although it really isn't) ideas, Muslim fundamentalism (while must of them break Islamic rules constantly).

And the politicians just don't have an answer for the mess they created, that's why they come up with this kind of shit. Just like they didn't have an answer for the problems the poorer people caused decades ago. This system always is an a permanent state of crisis. And there will not be a solution as long as they don't create a system were people have jobs and opportunities to create wealth. Sending the immigrants back isn't going to solve it to btw, because European people will just replace them as lower poor classes (but I'm not against a harder immigration policy, we have to solve the mess first, letting to many other people in will just make it worse).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


well the same problem that happens to 'autochtone' belgians will happen to 'allochtone" belgians when we make them more verbal !

its the matter of feeling too good to work at mcdonalds and ask me weither i want fries with that while not only having a criminal record but also no highschool diploma, or ANY sort of certicate !

nothing comes for nothing I'm afraid!

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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 10:01 AM

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oh and if you are going to give a one star
DO (at leasty try to) elaborate ?

You don't even have to have an account or user name to know you are either an immigrant or a person that feels guilty about their own skincolour

In fact the one and only reason you don't actively respond instead is because you rightiously feel yourself to be intellectually or emotionally inapt

hey ...
at leas you have some base sense of selfknowledge ...
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Doomwaffles (OP)

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12/13/2011 10:10 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Try walking into a bank with a balaclava on and let's find out what kind of response you will get. I bet you are greeted with a swat team.

This law has opened up a can of worms here. This morning they had several muslim women on the news expressing their views. One stated that there is no religious reason to wear either the mask or hijab, the other of course felt that it was, interesting to note, neither woman was wearing a face veil. It is just not acceptable here.

Then asked a muslim male I know what they thought of the law. He stated that they should only wear the veil at home if they want to wear it here.

He also went on to give his opinion on why the women wear burkas and veils in the country he came from and the answer he gave me left me lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


I worked with a guy from Syria. And I asked him question politely (and also mentioned I won't want to offend him).
"Why do women cover their faces?"
His response...
"The main reason is to cover their identity. In Syria, if you are a beautiful woman...men will try to rape you"

Which makes sense. I think here in Canada, it's a lot more secure and there should be no purpose to wear a niqab. I'm not trying to offend anyone but I've never really understood why they feel they need to wear them all the time. I could see if you are going to a mosque or something traditional...but YOU'RE IN CANADA. That's not traditional. You're from the middle east. You moved here...to a free country. Things can change.

I'm not trying to force this upon women but it's time to stand up for yourselves and become an individual.

Maybe I got it all wrong tho...just an outsiders opinion.
 Quoting: chuckslik


One of the muslim women on the news said EXACTLY the same thing this morning.

If you CHOOSE to come to Canada and become a Canadian, then you must adapt to this country, not the other way around.
 Quoting: Madame X


I would welcome that woman into Belgium and even give her a gift basket !
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


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i'm a believer in diversity

that being said, i believe that when someone goes to another country they should respect that country's culture.

for instance, if i moved to germany, i would expect that i should learn the language and make adjustments to my own lifestyle and habits rather than expecting everyone else to bend to my will.

i think it's sad to see homogeneity spreading so quickly and devouring diverse cultures. Lately it seems that no matter where you go, everything is the same. The same shops, the same goods, the same foods.....

It makes for a bland world, imho
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Yes they also have a responsibility. But you can't underestimate the problem this system is in. This system only had a boom after world war II, when they had to rebuild Europa and created the Marshall plan to create a social welfare system (to stem the communist threat). During that time unemployment was around O,5%.

Now corporate capitalism is actually destroying itself like it did in the 30's. They undermine wages with immigrants or moving their factories to China, by busting unions etc. This slowly destroyed their own market (their own employees), thus creating a crisis. They tried to solve it by giving them loans and credit cards, but this had it's limits. They also invested massively in speculative constructions, because the real economy wasn't making enough profit because of the crisis. They also lobbied every government to pay low taxes (you know there a lot of backdoor tax laws in Belgium), government participated in wars to secure markets, cheap labor and resources. High unemployment + immigration + wars + less taxes created the sovereign debt troubles (worsened by the speculative investment mentality). They also destroyed large parts of small business (the more corporate business you have, the harder the competition for the small businesses).

So imo this system is the cause of all the problems. Sending away immigrants isn't going to solve it. That's not the magical solution

Btw the things they are doing right now in Europe are going to make it a lot worse. They are going to implement the German low wage system. This enabled Germany to have a rather low (which is still big) unemployment figure. Germany only had it because the other European countries didn't have it. Implementing this in every country will destroy the market even more (because most European countries trade whit each other) because it will drive down wages everywhere. This will result in an unemployment/weak market loophole.

We are only going to see better days when the people (instead of the corporations) are going to get a bigger share of the pie. You can do this trough co-operations, higher wages, more small businesses, etc... . Less "free market" on a world scale (only with countries on the same economic level). Less debt creation and financial speculation.
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i'm a believer in diversity

that being said, i believe that when someone goes to another country they should respect that country's culture.

for instance, if i moved to germany, i would expect that i should learn the language and make adjustments to my own lifestyle and habits rather than expecting everyone else to bend to my will.

i think it's sad to see homogeneity spreading so quickly and devouring diverse cultures. Lately it seems that no matter where you go, everything is the same. The same shops, the same goods, the same foods.....

It makes for a bland world, imho
 Quoting: Sammie


i am not against diversity
in fact i think its admirable in heart

these days when i hear multiculturalism
i'm only hearing monogeny in heart
more than an improbability its an impossability for the sheer reason that you can not applaud monogeny AND diverstity at the same time without being just a little bit contradictory to yourself
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Yes they also have a responsibility. But you can't underestimate the problem this system is in. This system only had a boom after world war II, when they had to rebuild Europa and created the Marshall plan to create a social welfare system (to stem the communist threat). During that time unemployment was around O,5%.

Now corporate capitalism is actually destroying itself like it did in the 30's. They undermine wages with immigrants or moving their factories to China, by busting unions etc. This slowly destroyed their own market (their own employees), thus creating a crisis. They tried to solve it by giving them loans and credit cards, but this had it's limits. They also invested massively in speculative constructions, because the real economy wasn't making enough profit because of the crisis. They also lobbied every government to pay low taxes (you know there a lot of backdoor tax laws in Belgium), government participated in wars to secure markets, cheap labor and resources. High unemployment + immigration + wars + less taxes created the sovereign debt troubles (worsened by the speculative investment mentality). They also destroyed large parts of small business (the more corporate business you have, the harder the competition for the small businesses).

So imo this system is the cause of all the problems. Sending away immigrants isn't going to solve it. That's not the magical solution

Btw the things they are doing right now in Europe are going to make it a lot worse. They are going to implement the German low wage system. This enabled Germany to have a rather low (which is still big) unemployment figure. Germany only had it because the other European countries didn't have it. Implementing this in every country will destroy the market even more (because most European countries trade whit each other) because it will drive down wages everywhere. This will result in an unemployment/weak market loophole.

We are only going to see better days when the people (instead of the corporations) are going to get a bigger share of the pie. You can do this trough co-operations, higher wages, more small businesses, etc... . Less "free market" on a world scale (only with countries on the same economic level). Less debt creation and financial speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


I can understand
yet can't help myself wanting to compartimentalise at the same time
Well , here's some form of comfort " it may get worse before it gets better"
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
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Btw don't forget that radical Islam is a fairly modern ideology in the Muslim world. In the 50, 60's woman in Egypt for instance woman only wore headscarfs when they went to the mosque (like European woman who went to church did in the same period). This whole radical Islam ideology was a reaction to modernization, but further radicalized as a reaction to western imperialism.

It's not really correct to see it as Turkish, Moroccan or Muslim culture. It's an ideology that slowly spreads, and is also still spreading in the Muslim world.
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Oh I completely understand that you are angry at those people. And you would want to send the back. I'm just saying it wouldn't solve a lot in the end.

I'm 100% sure (and I'm serious) that there are a lot of immigrants or Muslims who would want to kill me if I talked about my ideas about religion or my own personal life.

And I hate going to Antwerp or Brussels because of them.
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
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if and when calling me a sociopath, do feel free to post some linky stinkies supporting your claim !

I'm willing to listen!
just each time you talk you are not speaking !


hf

(lemme guess! I'm someone that can speak your native language better than you and you feel you have no other way to assert yourself over me but to digress into verbal abuse ? ..are you expecting me to feel sorry for you ? )

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Oh I completely understand that you are angry at those people. And you would want to send the back. I'm just saying it wouldn't solve a lot in the end.

I'm 100% sure (and I'm serious) that there are a lot of immigrants or Muslims who would want to kill me if I talked about my ideas about religion or my own personal life.

And I hate going to Antwerp or Brussels because of them.
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you are preaching to the choir
i come from a "mixed" family
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


if and when calling me a sociopath, do feel free to post some linky stinkies supporting your claim !

I'm willing to listen!
just each time you talk you are not speaking !


hf

(lemme guess! I'm someone that can speak your native language better than you and you feel you have no other way to assert yourself over me but to digress into verbal abuse ? ..are you expecting me to feel sorry for you ? )
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


LOL you make a thread of rhetorical questions (basically whining disguised as a question thread) and respond to people by using more rhetorical questions

in other words you've made up your mind and you just wanna stir shit

only thing worse than an internet smartass is one that isn't smart or funny

have fun flinging poo at the other racists hf lol u guys
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


if and when calling me a sociopath, do feel free to post some linky stinkies supporting your claim !

I'm willing to listen!
just each time you talk you are not speaking !


hf

(lemme guess! I'm someone that can speak your native language better than you and you feel you have no other way to assert yourself over me but to digress into verbal abuse ? ..are you expecting me to feel sorry for you ? )
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


LOL you make a thread of rhetorical questions (basically whining disguised as a question thread) and respond to people by using more rhetorical questions

in other words you've made up your mind and you just wanna stir shit

only thing worse than an internet smartass is one that isn't smart or funny

have fun flinging poo at the other racists hf lol u guys
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come back to me when you have a user name
or face my "bane your brian" hammer !
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


You don't really know what your talking about. We don't really have separated ghetto's in Europe. There's a big chance that you'll come into close contact with sometimes dangerous idiotic crazy groups of immigrant youths if you live in a big city (especially when you're young or old = weak). And it's frightening when you live in a trouble neighborhood. So it's a real problem.

Coming out of your box is only safe when the maniacs on the street come out of theirs. ;p
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Cookery Lesson 101

Meal: Global population separation
Serves: Planet

Take human race and place in a pot
Now add the following:

1x Religion
1x Politics
1x History of lies
1x Ethnicity differences
1x class differences
1x Media (all types is preferred)
1x Education
100x Fear (preferably from all of the above)
1x Monetary system
1x Ruling elites

Sprinkle dis-information and racism and then grind in perceptions

Now carefully remove free-thinking from the top of the surface, that stuff will really cause you problems.

Allow to simmer for a few thousand years and pour over planet.
Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
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I say..lock the box,and throw the key.
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12/13/2011 10:47 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
Cookery Lesson 101

Meal: Global population separation
Serves: Planet

Take human race and place in a pot
Now add the following:

1x Religion
1x Politics
1x History of lies
1x Ethnicity differences
1x class differences
1x Media (all types is preferred)
1x Education
100x Fear (preferably from all of the above)
1x Monetary system
1x Ruling elites

Sprinkle dis-information and racism and then grind in perceptions

Now carefully remove free-thinking from the top of the surface, that stuff will really cause you problems.

Allow to simmer for a few thousand years and pour over planet.
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12/13/2011 10:49 AM
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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


You don't really know what your talking about. We don't really have separated ghetto's in Europe. There's a big chance that you'll come into close contact with sometimes dangerous idiotic crazy groups of immigrant youths if you live in a big city (especially when you're young or old = weak). And it's frightening when you live in a trouble neighborhood. So it's a real problem.

Coming out of your box is only safe when the maniacs on the street come out of theirs. ;p
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understood, but that's a socioeconomic problem, inequality problem, law enforcement problem, education problem, and so on. has nothing to do with skin color, where you're born, what language you speak, etc. there's plenty of naturally born european maniacs about too.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

but this is about your own psychopathology, not objective truths....you're not going to stop being racist so why do i try?
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12/13/2011 10:51 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


You don't really know what your talking about. We don't really have separated ghetto's in Europe. There's a big chance that you'll come into close contact with sometimes dangerous idiotic crazy groups of immigrant youths if you live in a big city (especially when you're young or old = weak). And it's frightening when you live in a trouble neighborhood. So it's a real problem.

Coming out of your box is only safe when the maniacs on the street come out of theirs. ;p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


understood, but that's a socioeconomic problem, inequality problem, law enforcement problem, education problem, and so on. has nothing to do with skin color, where you're born, what language you speak, etc. there's plenty of naturally born european maniacs about too.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

but this is about your own psychopathology, not objective truths....you're not going to stop being racist so why do i try?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


welcome to belgium !
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12/13/2011 10:58 AM
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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


You don't really know what your talking about. We don't really have separated ghetto's in Europe. There's a big chance that you'll come into close contact with sometimes dangerous idiotic crazy groups of immigrant youths if you live in a big city (especially when you're young or old = weak). And it's frightening when you live in a trouble neighborhood. So it's a real problem.

Coming out of your box is only safe when the maniacs on the street come out of theirs. ;p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


understood, but that's a socioeconomic problem, inequality problem, law enforcement problem, education problem, and so on. has nothing to do with skin color, where you're born, what language you speak, etc. there's plenty of naturally born european maniacs about too.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

but this is about your own psychopathology, not objective truths....you're not going to stop being racist so why do i try?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


I'm to the far left, and judge every person as an equal. I'm just stating the fact the these socio-economic problems create maniacs. I also stated that only socio-economics will solve it. So why in gods name would I be a racist? You just act like i have to think "yay immigrant youths" because their behavior is caused by a complex mix of reasons. They would insult me or beat me in the hospital (that actually happens) if they see me touching my boyfriend, so who's the one that needs to get out off his box?
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12/13/2011 11:00 AM
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You have to read all of my posts btw, it's clear you didn't. s226
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12/13/2011 11:06 AM

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Re: Question to pro-multiculturalist people !
when aliens attack and everyone finally realizes humans are humans, in the same boat together regardless of skin color ...and regardless of some imaginary lines like "Belgium" drawn in the sand within a few year time period on a planet billions of years old (seriously? you think "belgium" is where you really are?)...all you racist sociopaths are gonna feel really really fuckin stupid

get out of your box
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


You don't really know what your talking about. We don't really have separated ghetto's in Europe. There's a big chance that you'll come into close contact with sometimes dangerous idiotic crazy groups of immigrant youths if you live in a big city (especially when you're young or old = weak). And it's frightening when you live in a trouble neighborhood. So it's a real problem.

Coming out of your box is only safe when the maniacs on the street come out of theirs. ;p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


understood, but that's a socioeconomic problem, inequality problem, law enforcement problem, education problem, and so on. has nothing to do with skin color, where you're born, what language you speak, etc. there's plenty of naturally born european maniacs about too.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

but this is about your own psychopathology, not objective truths....you're not going to stop being racist so why do i try?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770


I'm to the far left, and judge every person as an equal. I'm just stating the fact the these socio-economic problems create maniacs. I also stated that only socio-economics will solve it. So why in gods name would I be a racist? You just act like i have to think "yay immigrant youths" because their behavior is caused by a complex mix of reasons. They would insult me or beat me in the hospital (that actually happens) if they see me touching my boyfriend, so who's the one that needs to get out off his box?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2846247


i'm far right and still did not ban you
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