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Who is Joshua Spillane and Rodney Marks and why should you care? Two mystery deaths in Antarctica.

 
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Who is Joshua Spillane and Rodney Marks and why should you care? Two mystery deaths in Antarctica.
The formal search for Joshua Spillane, marine technician, ended at 1800 (EDT) on April 19. Joshua was discovered missing from the research vessel Laurence M. Gould on April 17. The ship was in routine transit from Palmer Station, Antarctica to Punta Arenas, Chile.

An exhaustive search has been underway since it was determined that Joshua was not onboard by the R/V Laurence M. Gould crew and passengers. In addition, the search has been augmented by a P3 aircraft flown by the Argentinean Air Defense search and rescue force. There has been no sighting of Joshua. The research vessel has begun slowly sailing northward and personnel will continue to look enroute parallel to their original course. The estimated time of arrival at Punta Arenas, Chile, is early morning April 22.

Tom Yelvington, Vice President of Raytheon Technical Services and Program Manager of Raytheon Polar Services Company: "It is with tremendous sadness that I announce the cessation of search operations for Joshua Spillane. Our Polar Family, especially our Marine Science division, has been shaken by this tragedy. To my knowledge, this sort of incident has never occurred on a United States Antarctic Program research vessel, and we will work diligently to learn more about the circumstances of his disappearance. All speak very highly of Joshua's expertise, experience, jovial personality, and numerous contributions to the United States Antarctic Program. Our thoughts and support go out to his family and friends. Our appreciation and thanks go out to all onboard the Gould, and the Chilean, Argentine, and U.S. authorities for their assistance in the search efforts."

[link to www.antarcticconnection.com]

"This Site is dedicated to Joshua Spillane. Our son, brother, uncle, and friend. Joshua disappeared off of a US research vessel on April 17th 2006, he is still missing. Nobody knows what happened to him. We still have no answers as to whether he is alive or gone. Neither the company he worked for or our government will help. They have lied to us and hidden things from us. Not everything written about his disappearance is accurate or honest and we have spent the last couple of years trying to find out why. We encourage you to leave any comments, messages, or anything you would like to add. Thanks, The Family"

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

When a young astrophysicist died in Antarctica, his death was blamed on natural causes. Now, David Fisher investigates whether Rodney Marks' death was the first murder on the ice

Rodney Marks was buried for a second time under the warm Australian sun, in a bush cemetery not far from the beaches he surfed as a boy.

On a hill above the grave, a gum tree stands against blue skies. Close by is the beginning of the Great Ocean Rd, which chases the sun and surf west as Marks once chased his dreams, all the way to Antarctica.

It was there, in one of the world's coldest and most remote terrains, that Rodney Marks was buried for the first time. He died suddenly, and of all the questions that still surround his death, the most chilling is whether he is victim of Antarctica's first murder.

Marks, 32, died in May 2000 at the frozen Amundsen-Scott Station, the American base at the South Pole. His body trapped for the winter, Marks' friends made him a coffin of oak scavenged from around the base, planing and polishing rough wood into a 200kg casket.

As they mourned their friend, the elite American agency that runs the base, the National Science Foundation, issued a statement saying Marks had died of "natural causes". The statement was wrong, but it would be months before this was discovered.

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"When a young astrophysicist died in Antarctica, his death was blamed on natural causes. Now, David Fisher investigates whether Rodney Marks' death was the first murder on the ice"

"The search for answers raised more questions. Why were there needle marks in the young scientist's arm? Why did the National Science Foundation - which answers only to the United States President - appear to block Wormald's inquiries?"

"So, in November 1999, Marks returned. He was among about 250 people who spent the summer at the base, with the number reducing as winter closed in. Of those remaining, only 10 were scientists, with the remainder forming a maintenance and management crew employed by the science foundation or its contractor, Raytheon Polar Services."

"Wormald needed witnesses, but was unable to compel co-operation. The United States Department of Justice made it clear that the coronial inquest was considered an "informal" inquiry in the department's view, and Wormald would have to contact the science foundation directly and ask for whatever help it was willing to give.

Years later, he would give evidence in court that there was very little help, and that what help there was came slowly. The NSF disputes this: a spokesman says it had co-operated "fully"."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Wiki on the astrophysicist that died.

"New twist in case of Antarctica poisoning death
4:00AM Sunday Mar 15, 2009
David Fisher

A homicide inquiry should have been carried out into the death of a scientist in Antarctica, according to an internal report for the elite American agency accused of stonewalling New Zealand police over the case.

The internal report is referred to in documents from the inquest into the death of Rodney David Marks, 32, an Australian astrophysicist, who died in Antarctica under mysterious circumstances.

The Herald on Sunday was last week granted access to the documents, which reveal heavy drinking and drug use at the American-run Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station.

The documents come from the New Zealand inquiry into Marks' death in 2000, which began after an autopsy in Christchurch discovered he had been poisoned by a fatal quantity of methanol.

They detail eight years of "legal, diplomatic and jurisdictional hurdles" faced by police - and have led to new rules being developed to deal with sudden deaths in Antarctica.

In the files, the officer investigating the case, Detective Senior Sergeant Grant Wormald, testifies that he was stonewalled dealing with the US National Science Foundation, which runs the base through its polar programme.

Wormald was trying to get copies of the foundation's inquiries into Marks' death, and contact details for the 49 other people who spent winter at the South Pole that year.

Letters reveal no foundation inquiries were provided to Wormald and the agency would not provide contact details for witnesses - only forwarding a questionnaire after approving the questions.

Wormald managed to get hold of one inquiry from a former employee. The report, by a foundation doctor, stated "when an individual aged 32 years dies unexpectedly, the matter warrants a homicide investigation".


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 Quoting: Xenus 648970


Am email from his sister;

I am Joshua's sister, unforunately I do not know what clearances he had. Joshua is somewhat private and quiet about his job. His position on the ship was as an EMT and a marine tech. He had an incrediably safe job performance over ten years. It has never been said one way or the other what happened that day on the ship. Just that he disappeared. We have not had much luck with the FBI or with Raytheon, for the most part what Raytheon did say or do was misinformation or untrue. We would find out later that they had misinformed us on many things. They told us that both Raytheon and the Chiliean authorities would investigate the disappearance, that was not true or they dont want to give us copies of the investigation. They also would not give us a death certificate. I know my brother did not fall off that ship or jump off that ship. What happened I do not know. It will be three years on the 17th, that we have been looking for answers.

One interesting note. The astrophysicist that died, his girlfriend that he was engaged to be married was on the ship as well when my brother disappeared.

Several of Joshuas personal belongings never came home, and they let crew read his personal letters and emails. Raytheon also sat in on the FBI interviews with crew members which I feel tainted the investigation. We (his family) was not invited to the memorial in Chile that they had for Joshua.

My brother is a smart, educated, trained man. He has survival training. He was extremly close to my children. We heard from him just days before he disappeared and had instant messaged my daughter weeks before on her birthday, stating he had bought her a birthda gift. Which we never got. He is an amazing person and we miss him more than I can put into words.


Now this is starting to get even stranger. That woman who was the astrophysicists GF was ALSO on the ship Joshua disappeared from...
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An update from Joshua's sister.

When my brother disappeared, they tried to hint that it was a suicide. I can promise you it was not. My brother had just bought all new furniture. He had been on line just days before paying for an EMT course that he was to attend in the Summer. He had made flight arrangements to fly to California to see his girlfriend, just a couple days before he went missing. He made all these plans and the disappeared. They told us nobody had seen him that morning. But, yet we found out that several people saw him that day. They want us to believe that in broad daylight, with people on the decks and with cameras running (yes they have cameras on the ship decks) that he jumped over board. He was on that ship for two nights, he was supposed to be on the ship another two nights before they docked, had he wanted to jump he could have at night when nobody would have seen him. They lied to us.

I think his sister would have known her brother very well... Not to mention the mandatory psychological from Raytheon itself and the doctor onboard.
 Quoting: Xenus


The cause of the fatal methanol poisoning has never been determined, and the Marks family has given up hope of learning what happened. Paul Marks, Rodney's father, is quoted as saying "... And I don't think we are going to try to find out any more in regards to how Rodney died. I'd see that as a fruitless exercise."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sonja Wolter was at the scene of both "accidents". Both times the families are both stoned walled and left with no real answers. So what really happened? Did Sonja murder both these men?

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How does a man with plenty of Antarctic sea experience simply vanish from a high tech ship with CCTV covering every inch of the place?
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Sometimes the dead won't stay dead. Is it just a coincidence that Sonja was there at both murders? Let's face it, you don't go missing from a ship with CCTV cameras recording everything unless someone wants you gone. Why was the NSF and the FBI protecting Raytheon? Why were these 2 (and how many others) silenced?
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Surely I can't be the only one who finds the presence of Sonja at both places odd...
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Surely I can't be the only one who finds the presence of Sonja at both places odd...
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Why was she on the research vessel at any time in the first place? Were the employees allowed to bring their friends or family members on board with them? Or was she a Raytheon employee who just happened to be engaged to another Raytheon employee who disappeared? Other employees might also have been in both places since they do work for the same company.
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Surely I can't be the only one who finds the presence of Sonja at both places odd...
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Why was she on the research vessel at any time in the first place? Were the employees allowed to bring their friends or family members on board with them? Or was she a Raytheon employee who just happened to be engaged to another Raytheon employee who disappeared? Other employees might also have been in both places since they do work for the same company.
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She's the only one who was known to be at both places.
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These people need justice, only way to get that is to become aware of the issue and then demand answers.
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What were they working on? Involved with?
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What happens in Antarctica stays in Antarctica... and thus why I would never take a job down there.
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It's somewhat well-known that the antarctic community is strange and that substance abuse is a big part of life for the isolated misfits who end up working there.
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The thing...
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wow, very interesting

strange things going on down there

wonder what his expertise was

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Hmmmm....great thread OP - Him being a scientist - he obviously discovered something in Atarctica for them to warrant killing him for the information to remain secret.
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Interesting that you say Sonja was there for maintenance... being that she is a RESEARCHER for the NOAA's ESRL program
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The thing...
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Bad ass movie.

You guys see the re-make yet? Pretty good!
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> ..an autopsy in Christchurch discovered he had been poisoned
> by a fatal quantity of methanol.

this is what happens at dry camps when someone really wants a drink

from wiki:

"Methanol has a high toxicity in humans. If ingested, for example, as little as 10 mL of pure methanol can cause permanent blindness by destruction of the optic nerve, and 30 mL is potentially fatal, although a fatal dose is typically 100–125 mL (4 fl oz) (i.e. 1–2 mL/kg of pure methanol)"

so ya.. four mild 1 oz drinks and you're DEAD
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i gotta read this later, bumped for after-work reading
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Weird.

Don't some poisons degrade to methanol?
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hmm
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What were they working on? Involved with?
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i gotta read this later, bumped for after-work reading
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ERRRM..



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Surely I can't be the only one who finds the presence of Sonja at both places odd...
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Why was she on the research vessel at any time in the first place? Were the employees allowed to bring their friends or family members on board with them? Or was she a Raytheon employee who just happened to be engaged to another Raytheon employee who disappeared? Other employees might also have been in both places since they do work for the same company.
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She's the only one who was known to be at both places.
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Hmm that is quite suspicious, and female intelligence agents are often used to infiltrate people's trust, using bedroom tactics to get info and keep tabs on key people. When they get what they are looking for they either split, or, sometimes, if he is found to be a security risk, they are asked to kill the target. It does sound like exactly this kind of operation...
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Are you cold down there?
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Antarctica is host to NAZI and ET bases.
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Antarctica is host to NAZI and ET bases.
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