NDAA/S.1867 censorship of the bill... they are hiding Section 1031! | |
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tammy User ID: 1707955 United States 12/14/2011 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this is interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7086394 If you look at the bill on the house's website, they are hiding Section 1031. The bill : [link to clerk.house.gov] Here's what's shown... Subtitle D--Detainee Matters SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY. SEC. 1036. PROCEDURES FOR STATUS DETERMINATIONS. SEC. 1037. CLARIFICATION OF RIGHT TO PLEAD GUILTY IN TRIAL OF CAPITAL OFFENSE BY MILITARY COMMISSION. No section 1031. But if you click on SUBTITLE D--Detainee Matters, what do we find? Subtitle D--Detainee Matters SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE. Section 1031. What a coincidence that this section in particular is hidden from the main index... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6266617 United States 12/14/2011 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget the US has detained citizens on American soil and put them in detention camps without this authorization...just ask a Japanese American who lived in california during WW2.We the people....better wake up! |
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X User ID: 4651805 United States 12/14/2011 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all quite interesting but if you start arresting US citizens how long will it take for word to get out? How long before people turn against it and then they are determined to be enemies of the state? And how the hell does all of this get paid for without taxpayers? You can't go to your job if you're all imprisoned in FEMA camps? And what happens to Americas moral high ground when it comes to human rights? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7090245 United States 12/14/2011 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it passes, this is a literal declaration of war against the citizens of this nation. When th government of a free nation REMOVES all the rights of the citizen, it is the exact same thing as declaring itself the enemy of the citizen. Read the Declaration of Independence for the proper response to such. The ONLY thing that has kept this country free for this long, is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If you remove the Constitution and Bill of Rights, this nation is NO better than 1941 Nazi Germany, and faces a remarkably similar result. Only this being a super high-tech nightmare version. |
chaakin User ID: 3222233 United States 12/14/2011 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailyinterlake.com] It appears somebody HAS seen/read this before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7067987 United States 12/14/2011 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7067987 United States 12/14/2011 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all quite interesting but if you start arresting US citizens how long will it take for word to get out? How long before people turn against it and then they are determined to be enemies of the state? And how the hell does all of this get paid for without taxpayers? You can't go to your job if you're all imprisoned in FEMA camps? Quoting: X 4651805 And what happens to Americas moral high ground when it comes to human rights? i don't know, go ask these guys: [link to proliberty.com] or stay stupid |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7100466 United States 12/14/2011 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The legislative year ends on Friday, so they've ``got`` to pass this bill before Friday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7086394 And they will. where is the bill on your link? [link to thomas.loc.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7100466 United States 12/14/2011 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The legislative year ends on Friday, so they've ``got`` to pass this bill before Friday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7086394 And they will. where is the bill on your link? [link to www.gpo.gov] [link to thomas.loc.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7067987 United States 12/14/2011 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The legislative year ends on Friday, so they've ``got`` to pass this bill before Friday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7086394 And they will. where is the bill on your link? [link to www.gpo.gov] [link to thomas.loc.gov] H.R.1540 does this bill keep getting re-titled? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7067987 United States 12/14/2011 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States." there's the key word: requirement, meaning they don't have to detain american citizens, but can under their discretion. this will go into effect 60 days after signing by pres. a state attorney chimed in on this and pointed out the wording: requirement on a thread days ago. and remember, once it's passed, it will be modified as it goes without people knowing. [link to thomas.loc.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6941519 United States 12/14/2011 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering the country seems to be experiencing some kind of awakening, and have realized their basic civil rights have been threatened in general (if not their wallets).... wouldn't it be advantageous to BHO's campaign to veto this bill to redeem himself on some level ??? Just as his pretense in withdrawing troops from IRAQ the year of his potential re-election??? Is this simply another ploy ? |
anonimalle User ID: 7101056 United States 12/14/2011 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7067987 United States 12/14/2011 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering the country seems to be experiencing some kind of awakening, and have realized their basic civil rights have been threatened in general (if not their wallets).... wouldn't it be advantageous to BHO's campaign to veto this bill to redeem himself on some level ??? Just as his pretense in withdrawing troops from IRAQ the year of his potential re-election??? Is this simply another ploy ? Quoting: TS66 he cannot veto a bill that passes with huge majority as it has done thus far. again, here is your culprits, the personalities you're dealing with: [link to proliberty.com] |
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