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VACCINES DO NOT IMMUNIZE!

 
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But they don't work.
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Yes, they do.

If you get chicken pox as a kid, you wont get it again? Why? Because the virus' very presence in your blood caused your body to make anti bodies.

The SAME THING happens when you inject someone with a weakened virus. The viruses presence causes the body to build antibodies.

Dont work? Polio and Small pox are gone because they work.

Vaccines work. The evidence backs it.
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Well, go get yourself all vaxed up then. But don't expect the rest of us to follow.

The dangers are right on the inserts; they are telling you how dangerous they are.

As for me.. no way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7088759


Vaccines use your bodies immune system!


And to the people posting links to vaccines causing narcolepsy, cancer, are you people that narrow minded?

Correlation does not equal causation.

Secondly, your telling me that out of every environmental factor, peoples daily lives, etc, etc, the only one worth considering is vaccines? Please. this is nonsensical, and this anti vaccination crap is just stupid.
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"Correlation does not equal causation."??!!! wtf logic is that you dirty shill?? shame on you booooo shill boooo
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


Same here, I find it funny I'm 27 and I'v never had the flu but everyone I know who gets a flu shot every year end up getting it and are sick for like a week. The way I look at it is if other people what to put that shit in there body thats their choice but don't try and force me to take that crap
 Quoting: patdeez84


I always suggest that folks should go to the vaccine manufacturers website and READ THE LIST OF DISCLOSED INGREDIENTS (thimerosol, aluminum compounds, farmaldehyde/formalin, etc.), and ask themselves his question:
"after reading the list of ingredients, would you DRINK that stuff? No?? They why the HELL would you inject it directly into your bloodstream, bypassing your digestive system defenses?"
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Well put.
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nonsense. The thing you, nor the op realize is that Vaccines work by using your bodies immune system. You inject a dead or weakened virus into a person, t




Vaccines allow immunity without having to suffer the infection.

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But they don't work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7088759


Yes, they do.

If you get chicken pox as a kid, you wont get it again? Why? Because the virus' very presence in your blood caused your body to make anti bodies.

The SAME THING happens when you inject someone with a weakened virus. The viruses presence causes the body to build antibodies.

Dont work? Polio and Small pox are gone because they work.

Vaccines work. The evidence backs it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5545334


[link to www.wellwithin1.com]

sure...

and...

[link to vactruth.com]
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I view the pro- vaccine folks as very cult like. They very much cannot accept that some people just don't want these injections.

They are quite the intolerant bunch.
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I view the pro- vaccine folks as very cult like. They very much cannot accept that some people just don't want these injections.

They are quite the intolerant bunch.
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Agreed. The pro-vaccine "Shill-itary" will be back with some "peer reviewed" pharma funded "study" to wave around and stomp their feet with. And they DO get angry that millions of folks are avoiding vaccines.
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


Same here, I find it funny I'm 27 and I'v never had the flu but everyone I know who gets a flu shot every year end up getting it and are sick for like a week. The way I look at it is if other people what to put that shit in there body thats their choice but don't try and force me to take that crap
 Quoting: patdeez84


I always suggest that folks should go to the vaccine manufacturers website and READ THE LIST OF DISCLOSED INGREDIENTS (thimerosol, aluminum compounds, farmaldehyde/formalin, etc.), and ask themselves his question:
"after reading the list of ingredients, would you DRINK that stuff? No?? They why the HELL would you inject it directly into your bloodstream, bypassing your digestive system defenses?"
 Quoting: PhxRising


It reminds me of the list of the side effects they say really fast at the end of all those drug commercials, lol some of the side effects are worse then what your trying to cure.fight
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Nope, they inoculate. lol
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Saw a GREAT bumper sticker a couple days ago: "My Christmas present to humanity: Vaccines Kill, wake up!"
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Saw a GREAT bumper sticker a couple days ago: "My Christmas present to humanity: Vaccines Kill, wake up!"
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You would think with the FDA's track record of giving us harmful medicine that people would be a little bit more cautious about taking their vaccines.

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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Saw a GREAT bumper sticker a couple days ago: "My Christmas present to humanity: Vaccines Kill, wake up!"
 Quoting: PhxRising


You would think with the FDA's track record of giving us harmful medicine that people would be a little bit more cautious about taking their vaccines.
 Quoting: patdeez84


Many are waking up, and refusing vaccine poisons. Excellent karma to spread the truth.
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Did they just delete that dudes post?
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
.

“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Did they just delete that dudes post?
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Someone with a green alien avatar just posted, and it is now gone?
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There are plenty of vaccine posts on GLP. Looks like healthy debate happening here.
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Did they just delete that dudes post?
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Someone with a green alien avatar just posted, and it is now gone?
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Yup I wonder if they banned him too thats messed up
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:ronswansontax:

“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
.

“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Welcome to shill central...
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


So the Denver DR has taken into account other factors in his research? Is it a absolute correlation, does every vaccinated child have poor health while all unvaccinated never have any illness? Or is that quote trite and pointless.

The fact that smallpox is eradicated, polio unheard of in the west, TB commoly found in unvaccinated groups and many other illnesses uncommon now is empirical proof that vaccination works.

I get it you are too stupid and ignorant of the mechanism used, but keep it to yourself.
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Did they just delete that dudes post?
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Yup. I noticed it, too.
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


So the Denver DR has taken into account other factors in his research? Is it a absolute correlation, does every vaccinated child have poor health while all unvaccinated never have any illness? Or is that quote trite and pointless.

The fact that smallpox is eradicated, polio unheard of in the west, TB commoly found in unvaccinated groups and many other illnesses uncommon now is empirical proof that vaccination works.

I get it you are too stupid and ignorant of the mechanism used, but keep it to yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927


Those diseases were on the way out prior to the vaccines.
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


So the Denver DR has taken into account other factors in his research? Is it a absolute correlation, does every vaccinated child have poor health while all unvaccinated never have any illness? Or is that quote trite and pointless.

The fact that smallpox is eradicated, polio unheard of in the west, TB commoly found in unvaccinated groups and many other illnesses uncommon now is empirical proof that vaccination works.

I get it you are too stupid and ignorant of the mechanism used, but keep it to yourself.
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Those diseases were on the way out prior to the vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7088759


The human body is born to be self-sustaining and healthy. There are aberrations of course as will everything in nature but given the proper diet, clean water, and clean air most of us will live healthy long lives.

Historically good food, clean water, and clean air were in short supply. That's the reason there was so much disease and early death.
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BTW scientific evidence does not support the anti-vaxxer's claims.
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Conventional science cannot explain many things. I would be an idiot to put my trust into a health system that has as its engine, the profit driven monster - the pharmaceutical industry. Keep driving this vehicle and one day you will find yourself at the age of 80 swallowing 15 pills in the morning, 10 pills at lunch, then another dozen for good measure just before bedtime. This is the same creature that is the mother of your vaccines. A lecherous old hag, laughing her head off at how she's able to poison humanity whilst fooling them into thinking that it is actually medicine.
I throw idiots on the bbq...™

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You are about as far from the truth as can be ! thats why you are a EvilBugger
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


So the Denver DR has taken into account other factors in his research? Is it a absolute correlation, does every vaccinated child have poor health while all unvaccinated never have any illness? Or is that quote trite and pointless.

The fact that smallpox is eradicated, polio unheard of in the west, TB commoly found in unvaccinated groups and many other illnesses uncommon now is empirical proof that vaccination works.

I get it you are too stupid and ignorant of the mechanism used, but keep it to yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927


Those diseases were on the way out prior to the vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7088759


The human body is born to be self-sustaining and healthy. There are aberrations of course as will everything in nature but given the proper diet, clean water, and clean air most of us will live healthy long lives.

Historically good food, clean water, and clean air were in short supply. That's the reason there was so much disease and early death.
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thats are the true reasons of major diseases eradication, 2 words, personal hygiene, thats the trick of the clandestine pharma actually a banksta branch, in order to highjack and fill with neuropoisons humanity, thymerosal and aluminium dumb down humans, in order to be stupid passive and naive slaves in the new word ordah.
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Yup, but you can't tell the sheeple nuttin.

They just luvs their poison jabs.
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BTW scientific evidence does not support the anti-vaxxer's claims.
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Do you honestly think that I believe you have read any of these reviews?. You are too curt in your assumptions. The cochrane systemic views find a corollary of less than 1% in efficacy of flu shots in under 2's. The review simply collates statistical findings from all journal datum. In regard to mmr vaccines or dpt; the prevalent findings are roughly a mortality rate of 1 in 50 000 w/o vaccines. A complication rate of 1 in 5000. While allergic reactions have exponentially multiplied in children and lethal damage rates stand at about 1 in 10 000. Those are just numbers, no emotions, no conclusions. I would suggest you digest them before making false assumptions or bandying about assertions of your own superiority. the truly contemptible jackass is a smug one.
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right, so 1937 knowledge of medicine is somehow supposed to supercede modern medicine?
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>implying there is less cancer now than thousands of years ago
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lol 4chan? sup
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"In my medical career I've treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children and the unvaccinated children are far healthier than the vaccinated ones.'"------Philip Incao, MD, Denver, CO

And unvaccinated adults like myself DO NOT GET SICK, AT ALL. If you believe vaccines confer immunity, you likely believe that violence brings peace.
 Quoting: PhxRising


So the Denver DR has taken into account other factors in his research? Is it a absolute correlation, does every vaccinated child have poor health while all unvaccinated never have any illness? Or is that quote trite and pointless.

The fact that smallpox is eradicated, polio unheard of in the west, TB commoly found in unvaccinated groups and many other illnesses uncommon now is empirical proof that vaccination works.

I get it you are too stupid and ignorant of the mechanism used, but keep it to yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927



polio eh the only reason its anywhere is because it got lose from a vaccine.

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Fuck vaccines, they're poison and you're an ignorant cocksucker if you get them or allow your children to get them.

There's too much info out there to be that dumb in this day and age.
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“It is nonsense to think that you can inject pathogens directly into the blood and in any way improve health. There is no such thing as immunization, but we sell it under the name immunization. If there were a way to build up a natural resistance to disease through these artificial means, I would applaud it – but we can’t. The body has its own methods of defense. These depend on the vitality of the body and you can’t change the vitality of the body by introducing poisons of any kind into it.”
- Dr. William H. Hay (House of Representatives Congressional Record December 21, 1937.

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You are nuts.
When I grew up polio was an epidemic.
In school we all collected dimes for the "March of Dimes".
I and my closest brother got measles, mumps and
chicken pox, as did all other kids.
My later brother who were vaccinated never did.
I grew up with a kid who got polio as a child right
before the vaccine came out.

I lived and suffered through diseases that are now
almost unknown.

Again, you are nuts.
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I was vaccinated for chicken pox as a kid. I still got it. I'll never take another vaccination again or give my kids vaccinations because it's not worth the risk. I only wish I had a choice as a kid to refuse vaccinations.
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“It is nonsense to think that you can inject pathogens directly into the blood and in any way improve health. There is no such thing as immunization, but we sell it under the name immunization. If there were a way to build up a natural resistance to disease through these artificial means, I would applaud it – but we can’t. The body has its own methods of defense. These depend on the vitality of the body and you can’t change the vitality of the body by introducing poisons of any kind into it.”
- Dr. William H. Hay (House of Representatives Congressional Record December 21, 1937.

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You are nuts.
When I grew up polio was an epidemic.
In school we all collected dimes for the "March of Dimes".
I and my closest brother got measles, mumps and
chicken pox, as did all other kids.
My later brother who were vaccinated never did.
I grew up with a kid who got polio as a child right
before the vaccine came out.

I lived and suffered through diseases that are now
almost unknown.

Again, you are nuts.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7098338


That's because of improvements in sanitation not vaccination.
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“It is nonsense to think that you can inject pathogens directly into the blood and in any way improve health. There is no such thing as immunization, but we sell it under the name immunization. If there were a way to build up a natural resistance to disease through these artificial means, I would applaud it – but we can’t. The body has its own methods of defense. These depend on the vitality of the body and you can’t change the vitality of the body by introducing poisons of any kind into it.”
- Dr. William H. Hay (House of Representatives Congressional Record December 21, 1937.

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 Quoting: PhxRising


You are nuts.
When I grew up polio was an epidemic.
In school we all collected dimes for the "March of Dimes".
I and my closest brother got measles, mumps and
chicken pox, as did all other kids.
My later brother who were vaccinated never did.
I grew up with a kid who got polio as a child right
before the vaccine came out.

I lived and suffered through diseases that are now
almost unknown.

Again, you are nuts.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7098338


He isn't "nuts". You just have a poor understanding in all this.

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