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Why is the alternative explanation always so much easier to understand than the mainstream explanation?
Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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Because the alternative explanation, the one not approved by the mainstream, is to horrifyingly true.
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Interesting, huh?
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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I had a guy tell me to lie the other day about why we were having to close the shop...I looked at him and said so the lie sounds better than the truth and he said yes! Pissed me off...seem nobody wants to face the truth....this country is broke!


sorry to go off topic....
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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I had a guy tell me to lie the other day about why we were having to close the shop...I looked at him and said so the lie sounds better than the truth and he said yes! Pissed me off...seem nobody wants to face the truth....this country is broke!


sorry to go off topic....
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Interesting, huh?
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It is!

I seriously wonder if anything, either than us being taught to read and write, is the whole truth!
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I feel the same way.

I honestly think that the people who wrote the school books designed them on purpose to be confusing, and easily forgettable.
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Interesting, huh?
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It is!

I seriously wonder if anything, either than us being taught to read and write, is the whole truth!
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I think there is very little truth down here and we should read all angles of it and critically think. Of course, most people want things spoon fed and are easily satisfied even when they don't understand what they are being told or taught.

It's kinda crazy, lol.
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I feel the same way.

I honestly think that the people who wrote the school books designed them on purpose to be confusing, and easily forgettable.
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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"Occam's razor" is a principle which states that the simplest explanation in the most plausible one.
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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"Occam's razor" is a principle which states that the simplest explanation in the most plausible one.
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Yeah but often the simplest explanation to a PHd Quantum Physcist is not exactly simple to the layman!
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"Occam's razor" is a principle which states that the simplest explanation in the most plausible one.
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Beat me to it.
hf
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Lol. I've heard that phrase over Starchild skull. They said it's obviously a type of deformity but it turned out to be genetically different from homo sapien. It took like 12 years or so to finally prove them wrong.

It's just another saying that the mainstream science is too lazy to conduct studies...
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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Because the more simple the solution, the more correct it is. The more complex it is, the more a waste of time it is, also further from the truth.

When you have to make it complex to work you're obviously on the wrong track. Like the Atomic bomb, they tried all types of bombardment that had many reasons why it should work, yet failed, then the simple answer came, a neutral solution, the neutron. :-)
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
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Because the more simple the solution, the more correct it is. The more complex it is, the more a waste of time it is, also further from the truth.

When you have to make it complex to work you're obviously on the wrong track. Like the Atomic bomb, they tried all types of bombardment that had many reasons why it should work, yet failed, then the simple answer came, a neutral solution, the neutron. :-)
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek


Not quite...

They said that cholesterol and saturated fat consumption causes heart disease.... wrong. Took them like 50 years to find out they were wrong.

They also said that sun causes skin cancer... It's kinda catch 22 but they made things much worse by causing a widespread vitamin D deficiency...
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Re: Why is the alternative explanation always so much easier to understand than the mainstream explanation?
Easy. It's because people have lost faith in their institutions. Of course you will find some government official's story to be suspicious, you already come from a place of skepticism; this is a good thing.

Unfortunately, you cannot dismiss all science wholesale just because of your cognitive bias. If you don't understand something, by all means, take the time to research it and apply the scientific method as needed; however, you will find that taking the consensus of multiple experts in any given field will give you the best information that is currently available.

If people had felt this way about the smallpox vaccine, do you think it would be completely eradicated today? :p
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Re: Why is the alternative explanation always so much easier to understand than the mainstream explanation?
because the "alternative" explanation is usually proffered by idiots, and is absolutely designed to be palatable to other idiots. that's how it gains traction. who wants to study an entire field when you can find some fuckwit on the internet eager to stroke your ego by telling you that no, you don't need to know any of that stuff; that, just as you expected, because you are smart enough to cut through all of that, it's all just one big show for the people stupider than you are?

and so now you're an official acolyte of idiocy
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Because the mainstream reality is built on lies, upon lies, upon lies, upon lies, constant lies
and deception.



Even the weaker minded are stating to become aware of this.
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I hate to be a party pooper but,

When someone asks you, "How did you do that?"
It's super easy to just say "Magic."

And if you are one who wants to believe in magic, that simple explanation is easier to believe than to learn some intricate technique.

Upgrade that to an adult level topic, and you have the basis of many posts here on GLP.
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because the "alternative" explanation is usually proffered by idiots, and is absolutely designed to be palatable to other idiots. that's how it gains traction. who wants to study an entire field when you can find some fuckwit on the internet eager to stroke your ego by telling you that no, you don't need to know any of that stuff; that, just as you expected, because you are smart enough to cut through all of that, it's all just one big show for the people stupider than you are?

and so now you're an official acolyte of idiocy
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because it is crafted with gullibles, the disaffected and thickheads in mind...
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bump for living and learning a bit everyday..thank you all ;)



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(snip)

"Occam's razor" is a principle which states that the simplest explanation in the most plausible one.
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Beat me to it.
hf
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


Lol. I've heard that phrase over Starchild skull. They said it's obviously a type of deformity but it turned out to be genetically different from homo sapien. It took like 12 years or so to finally prove them wrong.

It's just another saying that the mainstream science is too lazy to conduct studies...
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lol
occam's razor is only as useful as the brain analysing behind it.
One persons 'complicated' is another person 'simple'
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(snip)

"Occam's razor" is a principle which states that the simplest explanation in the most plausible one.
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Beat me to it.
hf
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


Lol. I've heard that phrase over Starchild skull. They said it's obviously a type of deformity but it turned out to be genetically different from homo sapien. It took like 12 years or so to finally prove them wrong.

It's just another saying that the mainstream science is too lazy to conduct studies...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner



lol
occam's razor is only as useful as the brain analysing behind it.
One persons 'complicated' is another person 'simple'
One persons 'simple' is another persons 'ridiculous'.
It took forever for part of the world population to stop believing the earth was flat.
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Maybe because the experts of the time all insisted it was flat, based on some received wisdom of revered ancients, or something. I don't know this for a fact, but do know that the Catholic church's position on an earth centered solar system vs. Galileo's heliocentric model, was based on Thomas Aquinas' reverence for Aristotle, who felt that a rotating earth would violate common sense as ' clearly everything would fall off.'
As for flat vs. sphere, I can't picture the average person loudly arguing for or against, or having much stake in the answer, but I CAN picture some wanting to keep the truth to themselves, and having others be scared to venture far. I do note that people managed to spread out all over the planet from one starting place.
It' hard to apply occam's razor ,if all you ever hear is one version over and over and, as OP says, that one's really really boring so that the embedded message seems to be 'leave it to the experts or at least those that just LOVE rote memorization.'
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Re: Why is the alternative explanation always so much easier to understand than the mainstream explanation?
The tone of the question posed is that of the debunker sighing wearily and patronizingly, smugly and unquestioningly loyal to the infallibility of what he sees as self-evident.

The alternative explanation is not "always so much easier"-- that's a dismissive statement. And what is "the mainstream"? Even experts don't agree. And time changes everything. To be critical rewires revisiting former evaluations in the light of new information.

It is harder to reject the status quo and stand on a limb, to risk ostracism, to see ones ones faith in the authoritative position crumble through a logic which no one it seems has the courage to question, tolerate, and even get angry that it's being offered as an alternative.

The war between science and religion rages on. People seek a metaphysical language to describe personal experience which science cannot offer...only the how not the why.

We invent stories to share our experiences.
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Re: Why is the alternative explanation always so much easier to understand than the mainstream explanation?
because the "alternative" explanation is usually proffered by idiots, and is absolutely designed to be palatable to other idiots. that's how it gains traction. who wants to study an entire field when you can find some fuckwit on the internet eager to stroke your ego by telling you that no, you don't need to know any of that stuff; that, just as you expected, because you are smart enough to cut through all of that, it's all just one big show for the people stupider than you are?
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^^THIS^^ is a good summary.
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Its like if you read any mainstream science text book or even a history book, its boring as hell with plenty of alien terms we just have to "Know" and plenty of "gaps" in the information and we are always told that "its just the way you are going to be taught".

When I got introduced to alternative science, what the mainstream call as "pseoduscience", I always find alternative explanation far more easier and logical to understand.

And this seems to be the case for everything I guess where the alternative/pseodo explanation always seems more appealing than the mainstream one!

Why is that? wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7105944


Because the more simple the solution, the more correct it is. The more complex it is, the more a waste of time it is, also further from the truth.

When you have to make it complex to work you're obviously on the wrong track. Like the Atomic bomb, they tried all types of bombardment that had many reasons why it should work, yet failed, then the simple answer came, a neutral solution, the neutron. :-)
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek


Not quite...

They said that cholesterol and saturated fat consumption causes heart disease.... wrong. Took them like 50 years to find out they were wrong.

They also said that sun causes skin cancer... It's kinda catch 22 but they made things much worse by causing a widespread vitamin D deficiency...
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Lets just call it personal experience then? When looking for solutions I tend to find the simplest one, with the least amount of steps, and/or corrections. :-)
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