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THE 3 FINAL SIGNS

 
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IF YOU'VE READ REVELATIONS CH6 VERSE 8-11, NOW CONTINUE

ON THROUGH CHAPTER 7, JUST A HINT OF WHAT IT SAYS

CHAPTER 14) AND I SAID UNTO HIM , SIR THOU KNOWEST, AND HE SAID TO ME , THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES , AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

READ ALL OF REV. CHAPTER 7, THEN CONTINUE IT TO THE END OF THE BOOK.
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First of all, MANY will be saved IN the tribulation! Those are the saints that have been made clean by the blood of the Lamb!

How can you say there is no pre-trib rapture with this verse. ITS VERY CLEAR!

LUKE 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS that shall come to pass, and to stand before the son of man.

What things is He talking about if there is no ESCAPE?? If the rapture is post-trib, what THINGS is He talking about??? He is clearly talking about ESCAPING judgement, ALL judgement!

Judgement was ONLY meant for the wicked. Thats why it states THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES , AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

"THEY" are the ones that have been MADE CLEAN through the "TRIBULATION" We that know Jesus BEFORE the rapture are ALREADY MADE CLEAN, by the CROSS!

PRAISE KING JESUS
ALL THE GLORY BELONGS TO HIM WHO HAS DIED FOR US SO THAT WE MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE!
PRAISE THE LORD

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That is really a bit freaky, as today I was driving through the complex, and meant to stop by and mail a letter at the box, and I just kept driving on past. I was caught-up in a sort of a vision, of a huge quake (we live in southern California, coastal area) and everything was falling down, shaking, people walking about were panicking. I was immediately wondering how my children were, as they were not there, at school or wherever. I was thinking about my survival bag, how would I go in the house to get it with all the shaking and instability in the buildings, and then I snapped out of it and told myself I better fill more of the spare water jugs with filtered water and update my meds and such right away. (sigh) Not ready for the big one, ever. You can never be ready for that.
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That is really a bit freaky, as today I was driving through the complex, and meant to stop by and mail a letter at the box, and I just kept driving on past. I was caught-up in a sort of a vision, of a huge quake (we live in southern California, coastal area) and everything was falling down, shaking, people walking about were panicking. I was immediately wondering how my children were, as they were not there, at school or wherever. I was thinking about my survival bag, how would I go in the house to get it with all the shaking and instability in the buildings, and then I snapped out of it and told myself I better fill more of the spare water jugs with filtered water and update my meds and such right away. (sigh) Not ready for the big one, ever. You can never be ready for that.
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what makes u think jesus wants doom?
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So you subscribe to Tribulation Now also, Who is this guy anyways? I'm not saying he's a fake but who is he that we should believe anything he says.
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what makes u think jesus wants doom?
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He doesn't! He has been asking for more time from the father for a LONG time now. Just watch the video. Jesus asked for more time for His people from the father. The father has declared its now time for His judgement to come upon the wicked. The judgement has to come sometime. God can only take so much rebellion. Its just like a parent and a disruptive child. Who knows how long He has been patient with such evil rebellion from His people.
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So you subscribe to Tribulation Now also, Who is this guy anyways? I'm not saying he's a fake but who is he that we should believe anything he says.
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Well, If you don't want to believe now, don't. But if an earthquake happens in California soon, I would say its a safe bet to believe what he's saying, right?

Also, If he is lying about all that he has heard and seen from the LORD and declaring it in HIS name, HELL will await him and I don't think he wants that. We will see my friend.
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He said that THREE final signs must happen first:

1. A major cataclysmic earthquake in California...VERY SOON
2. Israel goes to war
3. A HUGE tsunami hits New York

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1. How many have there been in the past 2,000 years and ..... nothing.

2. When haven't they been at war and, ..... nothing

3. It wouldn't just be New York it would be all the coasts in the Atlantic if that place was to get hit and even then it isn't one of the 'signs'.

The sequence given below is the only one the Bible promotes, deal with it.

2Th:2:3:
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

2Th:2:9:
Even him,
whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
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He said that THREE final signs must happen first:

1. A major cataclysmic earthquake in California...VERY SOON
2. Israel goes to war
3. A HUGE tsunami hits New York

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1. How many have there been in the past 2,000 years and ..... nothing.

2. When haven't they been at war and, ..... nothing

3. It wouldn't just be New York it would be all the coasts in the Atlantic if that place was to get hit and even then it isn't one of the 'signs'.

The sequence given below is the only one the Bible promotes, deal with it.

2Th:2:3:
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

2Th:2:9:
Even him,
whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
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WE ARE IN REVELATION MY FRIEND...these things WILL HAPPEN.
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I just watched a video last night of a man that has received a special message from the Lord on three signs to watch for before the rapture. Its pretty long so I will just tell you what he said.

He said that THREE final signs must happen first:

1. A major cataclysmic earthquake in California...VERY SOON
2. Israel goes to war
3. A HUGE tsunami hits New York

After the tsunami hits the east coast, we go home.

Its a good video and I suggest all people to watch it.

He states that back in September, The LORD asked the father to give more time to His people. The Father said this will be the LAST TIME He gives more time, then judgement comes from the FATHER. He also stated that the extended time is around 2-3 months. So, Sept. 1st plus 2-3 months....equals??? Yeahhh, were OUT OF TIME.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: JESUS is the WAY



The bible insist there is no "physical" sign giving to proceed his coming.

The "only" outward sign we can see physically is Israel becoming a nation May 14th 1948 after being scattered for nearly 2,000 years,at this point Christ said he was at the door. This was a time reference referring his second coming.


MATTHEW 12
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall NO SIGN be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
MATTHEW 16
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall NO SIGN be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
MARK 8
12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall NO SIGN be given unto this generation.
LUKE 11
29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall NO SIGN be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The bible is a spiritual book and could "only" be understood spiritually,Only God can give us spiritual understanding.

As far as "dreams",visions,etc....This phenomenon cease when the bible was completed in about 90AD.

When someone claims God came to them in dreams/visions they are in violation of Rev: 22:18,19.Any "new" revelation would be an addition to the bible.

The bible tells the believer to "watch",were do we watch? In the world? absolutely not. There is "nothing" new under the sun.....we "watch" the only place the believer can trust,the bible.Christ insist he will come as a thief in the night,the "only" ones who will not have that day overtake them as a thief is the believer.

"All" in the list you provided is a result of a sin curse world.
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RIGHT, so what your saying is a PROPHET called by God cannot prophesy of future things to come in DREAMS/VISIONS of the last days???

Acts 2:17
In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
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It not I but, the word of God saying it....
The bible is in parabolic language and can again, "only" be understood spiritually and even then 'only" if God chooses to open ones spiritual eyes and in his timing.

John:4
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in TRUTH.

God did speak to his prophets verbally,in dreams and visions. This was "before" the bible was complete which is God's revelation / law book to mankind. when the bible was complete in about 90AD there was no further revelation from God (rev:22:18,19),God is subject to his own laws and cannot break them.Otherwise, he would cease being God.

Most of these type of prophesy come form the imaginations of people."If" someone did had a supernatural experience it is impossible to be from God.However, "satan" comes as an angel of light,a great deceiver, a counterfeit Christ.

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The jewish people put God in a "BOX" and missed the messiah. You can't put God in a box
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I just watched a video last night of a man that has received a special message from the Lord on three signs to watch for before the rapture. Its pretty long so I will just tell you what he said.

He said that THREE final signs must happen first:

1. A major cataclysmic earthquake in California...VERY SOON
2. Israel goes to war
3. A HUGE tsunami hits New York

After the tsunami hits the east coast, we go home.

Its a good video and I suggest all people to watch it.

He states that back in September, The LORD asked the father to give more time to His people. The Father said this will be the LAST TIME He gives more time, then judgement comes from the FATHER. He also stated that the extended time is around 2-3 months. So, Sept. 1st plus 2-3 months....equals??? Yeahhh, were OUT OF TIME.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: JESUS is the WAY


Dr. Owunor has a WARNING VIDEO on the Eclipse that is coming. Maybe the one for 12-24 IS that one??? Why else would the Government, News, and NASA not tell anyone???? What are they hiding??? The Mayans also has 12-24-2011 as the End of the world AS WE KNOW IT???? NOT THE END OF THE WORLD COMPLETELY. RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH is my thinking???? ARE YOU READY TO FLY????
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The jewish people put God in a "BOX" and missed the messiah. You can't put God in a box
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"Everything" for mankind is in the word of God.

The bible is clear on this,the bible is full of snares.
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well the first 2 are very likely to happen at some point, the third would have to be caused from an asteroid hit in the atlantic i would guess as there are not usually big earthquakes in that area.
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Actually, there was just a show on the Discovery Channel about this. They said that the tsunami would come from the Canary Islands volcano going into the ocean.
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The jewish people put God in a "BOX" and missed the messiah. You can't put God in a box
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What's the difference between putting God in a box and God in a book? Nothing.
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what makes u think jesus wants doom?
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He doesn't! He has been asking for more time from the father for a LONG time now. Just watch the video. Jesus asked for more time for His people from the father. The father has declared its now time for His judgement to come upon the wicked. The judgement has to come sometime. God can only take so much rebellion. Its just like a parent and a disruptive child. Who knows how long He has been patient with such evil rebellion from His people.
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The Father does not want doom either as you seem to imply. God is love. You judge yourself when you measure who you are against that divine love. There will be no tyrant God coming down from the sky and dishing out wrath upon humanity.

Your post is fear mongering. Fear is the opposite of love. Why can't you see that you've been had?
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what makes u think jesus wants doom?
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He doesn't! He has been asking for more time from the father for a LONG time now. Just watch the video. Jesus asked for more time for His people from the father. The father has declared its now time for His judgement to come upon the wicked. The judgement has to come sometime. God can only take so much rebellion. Its just like a parent and a disruptive child. Who knows how long He has been patient with such evil rebellion from His people.
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bump and also some hf
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The only thing in the video that raised a red flag for me was when he said that during the millenium reign we as Gods people would still be tested and made to suffer...That is not in Gods Word. I am going to be Praying about this
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Jesus never said anything about imposing your beliefs upon others..
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what makes u think jesus wants doom?
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He doesn't! He has been asking for more time from the father for a LONG time now. Just watch the video. Jesus asked for more time for His people from the father. The father has declared its now time for His judgement to come upon the wicked. The judgement has to come sometime. God can only take so much rebellion. Its just like a parent and a disruptive child. Who knows how long He has been patient with such evil rebellion from His people.
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The Father does not want doom either as you seem to imply. God is love. You judge yourself when you measure who you are against that divine love. There will be no tyrant God coming down from the sky and dishing out wrath upon humanity.

Your post is fear mongering. Fear is the opposite of love. Why can't you see that you've been had?
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You look at it the wrong way. The tribulation is the last chance wake-up call from God the Father. God calls us to believe by FAITH and not by SIGHT. Once the rapture occurs and takes the crowns that walks by FAITH, and not by SIGHT. The rest will be able to SEE for what the world really is WITHOUT Him. Unbelievers will see the JUDGEMENT of GOD like never before, being poured out all over the world. It is still in your power whether to believe God's LAST AND FINAL wake-up call. He wants NO ONE to go to HELL.


Matthew 25:41
Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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Jesus never said anything about imposing your beliefs upon others..
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Where do I impose my belief on others? If your talking about witnessing, your wrong.
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The only thing in the video that raised a red flag for me was when he said that during the millenium reign we as Gods people would still be tested and made to suffer...That is not in Gods Word. I am going to be Praying about this
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Can you give me a time on that please?
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Jesus never said anything about imposing your beliefs upon others..
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Where do I impose my belief on others? If your talking about witnessing, your wrong.
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I think that's in the eye of the beholder so to speak.

I don't agree with all you have posted here, but I would never say that you are imposing your beliefs on me.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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The jewish people put God in a "BOX" and missed the messiah. You can't put God in a box
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What's the difference between putting God in a box and God in a book? Nothing.
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Well, they couldn't make videos back then. So a book seems the only logical way of documenting Jesus and His teachings. I am sure you know that the bible was written my man, right? It might even be your "proof" that it wasn't given by God. Well the God of the Bible likes to prove his truth THROUGH his chosen OR in other words "through man." He uses his own people to bring others to know Him.

The only way you will get there is if you first start with yourself by humbling yourself before HIM. He is God after all.

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Did this person happen to mention where he thought "home" was?
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You will only find your true home through Jesus Christ. God Bless youhf
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While I agree with your sentiment, that wasn't the question I asked.

hf
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He believes the same that was said. When you know Jesus, you know "where" your home is.

Check out this thread to know "what" it is.

Thread: HEAVEN!
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The 3rd heaven where the Father is. I think he said, yes. That is home
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If this is true I'm excited! We need to all get on our knees and pray, as things are about to take a big turn. We need to prepare our hearts, and be as holy as we can be. We ( the church) are the bride awaiting her groom. May we be pure of heart and full of God's love and mercy!
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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Jesus never said anything about imposing your beliefs upon others..
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Where do I impose my belief on others? If your talking about witnessing, your wrong.
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I think that's in the eye of the beholder so to speak.

I don't agree with all you have posted here, but I would never say that you are imposing your beliefs on me.
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Yes he did too. It's in the same place he told them to shake the dirt off their sandals for those who reject them.
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The issue is not pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib, the issue is BE READY.
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You will only find your true home through Jesus Christ. God Bless youhf
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While I agree with your sentiment, that wasn't the question I asked.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


He believes the same that was said. When you know Jesus, you know "where" your home is.

Check out this thread to know "what" it is.

Thread: HEAVEN!
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OP, you're hedging for a reason!!

(Who would have thought such a simple question would have an answer sooooo complex that the OP would send me elsewhere?)
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hi hf

This is a powerful video OP, thank you!

I did see it in the tribulation-now site and well what can I say, I have no choice but to believe New York will have its day of doom by way of water...

sad

I've read too many dreams, watched too many vids about similar prophecies, movies depicting the scenario, it's INEVITABLE...

I just hope the Lord will spare us as soon as it comes...

As for California, sigh everyone knows the drill about EQs already. They know what to expect.

I can't say enough how time is running out!!

PLEASE REPENT AND PRAY THAT YOU'RE WORTHY TO THOSE WHO HAVEN'T DONE SO BY NOW!!

IN cross36 NAME!!

hf