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In case you forgot/didn't know/haven't thought about it in a while... I think this news from the past needs some attention today

Can You Hear Me Now? - ABC News - 2006

Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off. A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug." Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery. "The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone’s location to within just a few feet," he added. THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You’re Calling FBI Secret Probes: 3,501 Targets in the U.S. Click Here to Check Out the Latest Brian Ross Investigates Webcast on CIA Secret Prisons According to the recent court ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, "The device functioned whether the phone was powered on or off, intercepting conversations within its range wherever it happened to be."

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And just in case that sparked your interest, throw your smartphone in the sewer, and read this...

The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy

(AKA "Warrantless Wiretapping") concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the war on terror. Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the "terrorist surveillance program",[1] part of the broader President's Surveillance Program, the NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor, without search warrants, phone calls, Internet activity (Web, e-mail, etc.), text messaging, and other communication involving any party believed by the NSA to be outside the U.S., even if the other end of the communication lies within the U.S. Critics, however, claimed that it was in an effort to attempt to silence critics of the Bush Administration and their handling of several hot button issues during its tenure. The Obama Administration has continued using these methods.[2]

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Your name says it all.peace
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Your name says it all.peace
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Your name says it all.peace
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So modest.burnit
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I change my simcard/number every month. I change my phone every 3 months or so.
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no fuckin way. my android phone is my computer first, the phone is just an option
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In case you forgot/didn't know/haven't thought about it in a while... I think this news from the past needs some attention today

Can You Hear Me Now? - ABC News - 2006

Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off. A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug." Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery. "The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone’s location to within just a few feet," he added. THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You’re Calling FBI Secret Probes: 3,501 Targets in the U.S. Click Here to Check Out the Latest Brian Ross Investigates Webcast on CIA Secret Prisons According to the recent court ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, "The device functioned whether the phone was powered on or off, intercepting conversations within its range wherever it happened to be."

(more at link)
[link to abcnews.go.com]

And just in case that sparked your interest, throw your smartphone in the sewer, and read this...

The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy

(AKA "Warrantless Wiretapping") concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the war on terror. Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the "terrorist surveillance program",[1] part of the broader President's Surveillance Program, the NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor, without search warrants, phone calls, Internet activity (Web, e-mail, etc.), text messaging, and other communication involving any party believed by the NSA to be outside the U.S., even if the other end of the communication lies within the U.S. Critics, however, claimed that it was in an effort to attempt to silence critics of the Bush Administration and their handling of several hot button issues during its tenure. The Obama Administration has continued using these methods.[2]

lots more at link
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 Quoting: ItsYourFault


We can either get angry about this - which is quite counterproductive, given we can't change it, or just learn how to live transparent lives so we don't care if someone else sees/hears/knows what we do/think. Ever think about that?

hf
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I change my simcard/number every month. I change my phone every 3 months or so.
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They can listen to your conversations, even when your phone is off
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Definitely nothing new.
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we can't change it
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The fact that you, and so many others, feel this way, is why things will never change. Remember that.
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I change my simcard/number every month. I change my phone every 3 months or so.
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They can listen to your conversations, even when your phone is off
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oh, i should learn the sign-language, eh?
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I usually just keep my phone in a drawer or another room.
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we can't change it
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The fact that you, and so many others, feel this way, is why things will never change. Remember that.
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Nice that you ignore the rest of my post, which was really the point. :) What do you have to hide? What is your secret 'sin'? I promise it is no worse than anyone elses.
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I keep my phone wrapped in tinfoil when I'm not using it.
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What the hell are you all doing that would warrant any of tha alphabet soup to be listening in to you?
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Okay, then, why do we have so many missing people? With this ability, we shouldn't have any, since we could peak in on conversations and determine where our missings have gone to.
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we can't change it
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


The fact that you, and so many others, feel this way, is why things will never change. Remember that.
 Quoting: ItsYourFault



Nice that you ignore the rest of my post, which was really the point. :) What do you have to hide? What is your secret 'sin'? I promise it is no worse than anyone elses.
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


I have nothing to hide. No sins to speak of. I'm not perfect, but i have nothing to hide.
That doesn't mean I am ok with them eavesdropping on whatever they want, whenever they want to. My business is my business, and I don't think they have the right to just tap into my calls and listen... turning on the microphone in the process.
I've given out my pin number on the phone.
I've had sexytime, with the gf.
I could think of lots more things I don't want others listening to, especially knowing the crap these people pull on us everyday.

Do you think someone wouldn't steal your credit card number, just because they work for the government? They steal from you on a daily basis anyways.
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What the hell are you all doing that would warrant any of tha alphabet soup to be listening in to you?
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I guess you're the type that would also say "why would you want a privacy fence? What are you going to be doing in your backyard that you don't want all your neighbors to see?"

or "Why would you want drapes on your windows? What are you going to be doing in your house that you wouldn't want your neighbors to see?" or

"Why do you need to close the bathroom door? What are you going to be doing in there that you wouldn't want me to see?"

There's obviously a gulf of difference between you and those of us who like a bit of privacy, and there's no point arguing with you about it.
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we can't change it
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


The fact that you, and so many others, feel this way, is why things will never change. Remember that.
 Quoting: ItsYourFault



Nice that you ignore the rest of my post, which was really the point. :) What do you have to hide? What is your secret 'sin'? I promise it is no worse than anyone elses.
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


I have nothing to hide. No sins to speak of. I'm not perfect, but i have nothing to hide.
That doesn't mean I am ok with them eavesdropping on whatever they want, whenever they want to. My business is my business, and I don't think they have the right to just tap into my calls and listen... turning on the microphone in the process.
I've given out my pin number on the phone.
I've had sexytime, with the gf.
I could think of lots more things I don't want others listening to, especially knowing the crap these people pull on us everyday.

Do you think someone wouldn't steal your credit card number, just because they work for the government? They steal from you on a daily basis anyways.
 Quoting: ItsYourFault


The fact is, that you are so afraid of someone listening in, means you feel/think you have something to hide.

Who gives a flying f*ck if someone listens in? If it makes 'em happy, so be it. There are times that I know for a fact that my calls are being listened to, and I no longer care.

If someone wants to steal my credit card number, so be it... the world won't end because of it. I will not be harmed in the process. Sure, some debt might be racked up in my name, but in the long run, who cares? None of it really matters in the long run.

Also, if someone is stealing from me, it means I am stealing from someone else. Karma is real, it's a way to balance things out in this physical plane. If I'm open to theft, then I know it means I better take a look at my own life to figure out where I'm stealing or being dishonest.
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we can't change it
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


The fact that you, and so many others, feel this way, is why things will never change. Remember that.
 Quoting: ItsYourFault



Nice that you ignore the rest of my post, which was really the point. :) What do you have to hide? What is your secret 'sin'? I promise it is no worse than anyone elses.
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


I have nothing to hide. No sins to speak of. I'm not perfect, but i have nothing to hide.
That doesn't mean I am ok with them eavesdropping on whatever they want, whenever they want to. My business is my business, and I don't think they have the right to just tap into my calls and listen... turning on the microphone in the process.
I've given out my pin number on the phone.
I've had sexytime, with the gf.
I could think of lots more things I don't want others listening to, especially knowing the crap these people pull on us everyday.

Do you think someone wouldn't steal your credit card number, just because they work for the government? They steal from you on a daily basis anyways.
 Quoting: ItsYourFault


this, is what a i call a well trained NWO sheep.
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i dont have my own phone! you think my boss will understand if i throw the mobile phone he gave me away?
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By the way, OP, I understand that you enjoy your 'privacy'. It's just that I've recently realized that there really is no such thing. That knowledge has helped me come to terms with some things that I have felt embarrassed about or even horrified/ashamed about sharing with another person. The truth is, any thought or habit or embarrassing 'trait' you have, chances are, many others around you have it too. The more you realize this, the more you realize you are connected with everyone else, and the more chance you have to heal.

hf
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The fact is, that you are so afraid of someone listening in, means you feel/think you have something to hide.

Who gives a flying f*ck if someone listens in?
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


This is exactly the mentality needed to lose your freedom.

`Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.`
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By the way, OP, I understand that you enjoy your 'privacy'. It's just that I've recently realized that there really is no such thing. That knowledge has helped me come to terms with some things that I have felt embarrassed about or even horrified/ashamed about sharing with another person. The truth is, any thought or habit or embarrassing 'trait' you have, chances are, many others around you have it too. The more you realize this, the more you realize you are connected with everyone else, and the more chance you have to heal.

hf
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


There are always unscrupulous people who are not as kind as you who would take advantage of your openness. Until the world is a nicer place, you might need to be a bit more careful with protecting your personal information and privacy.
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 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


Put your head back in the sand, and just wait for a saviour to save you right?
I'm not arguing with you anymore.
People like you are the reason the country is in the state its in. No offense.
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Think of how crApple made it a giant pain in the ass to take the battery out of their garbage iPhone?

crApple is in deep with the government.
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Think of how crApple made it a giant pain in the ass to take the battery out of their garbage iPhone?

crApple is in deep with the government.
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Good call. I hadn't thought of that
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I keep my phone wrapped in tinfoil when I'm not using it.
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I was going to say to turn it off and put it in a metal box/Faraday cage while you are charging it in the evening.
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I keep my phone wrapped in tinfoil when I'm not using it.
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I was going to say to turn it off and put it in a metal box/Faraday cage while you are charging it in the evening.
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I wrap my head in tin foil at night, to protect it from the EMF coming off my charging cellphone.
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We can either get angry about this - which is quite counterproductive, given we can't change it, or just learn how to live transparent lives so we don't care if someone else sees/hears/knows what we do/think. Ever think about that?

hf
 Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244


How about don't use a cell phone.

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