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First Annual Dragon Conference, Sedona Arizona.

 
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The goal is world wide unity and world peace for many of us brothers and sisters. A world without war and conflict.

Is there anything wrong that?
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There are no wars on a plantation.
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Sure there are and until we solve our unsustainable population issues and end Bible prophecy, wars on the plantation are simply inevitable.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


My point is implementing a "no war" environment right now would mean only 1 social model: The plantation with the same trans-nationalist oligarchy we have now, only more severe tyranny.

PS You're an idiot.
There are no "unsustainable population issues". There are unsustainable government issues.
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


No, you just may be. I agree and disagree because right now we have we have both.

A big government and then a population that is a cancer to the earth. I do not advocate killing, just a natural survival of the fittest without taking taxes by force to feed others who cannot feed themselves. That is unsustainable because the people cannot sustain themselves. To just keep producing plastics and waste so people have a job while we destroy the planet is not wise in one bit.

I would love a no war environment, but I think you are a little late for that and this environment you wish for is in the next age once we have a world government. I am not saying do away with the USA, but we do need unity on a world stage for a no war environment to take place and to take out those countries who are hostile to this plan.

I don't see any other way.
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I agree, an agreed upon international ambassador could endorse the progress of such things.
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[link to www.redicecreations.com]

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Apollo,
I like your Tom Cruise Avatar. Or are you Tom Cruise?
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I always thought his avatar looked like Ben Stiller but more attractive.

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And here - good jumpimg off points for learning about ole Nick the Dragnoblood Vere
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And here - good jumpimg off points for learning about ole Nick the Dragnoblood Vere
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[link to www.redicecreations.com]

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And here - good jumpimg off points for learning about ole Nick the Dragnoblood Vere
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

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Haha, that's funny.
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Apollo,
I like your Tom Cruise Avatar. Or are you Tom Cruise?
:)
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I always thought his avatar looked like Ben Stiller but more attractive.

hf
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Scott Backula from Quantum Leap show
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Apollo,
I like your Tom Cruise Avatar. Or are you Tom Cruise?
:)
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These ARE the times now people, ok. These are the times we will all remember. Were you there, what did YOU do?



We're counting on ya ;)
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And here - good jumpimg off points for learning about ole Nick the Dragnoblood Vere
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

These guys are SATANISTS.

Appollyon, come back to the good side, dude!
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Correction, dragons.

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Check this out--- further down the rabbit hole...
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And here - good jumpimg off points for learning about ole Nick the Dragnoblood Vere
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We are no longer affiliated with that group as of 3 weeks ago.
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Ok....
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the luciferian ideology regarding us isn't in our favor physically, you know the ones "helping us".
the same ones that will have their seemingly one world government, but not just for control, for most can't even see the chains already, or the noose.

you can grow thousands of pounds of food in just one acre of space given the right conditions and knowledge. (fact)
with one acre of land, i could feed hundreds all year, and then some.
you see, population control is an idea you subscribe to.
something that's been put into your heads, a meme, a virus, spreading out of control, because people beLIEve it.
if we truly wanted to help the planet and the world, we would just help others without expectations.
i share when i can, which means i could share more, but how hard are any of us really trying to help others, as the world swirls into a distortion of a greater degree? how much effort has been put into actually creating a positive outcome?

while i agree that humans need to take responsibility for themselves, some just refuse, it's not their time to learn.

we are here now, debating, expelling energy arguing, planning conferences and what not.
why not teach basic agriculture, or set up a conference to teach children to read or social skills that are positive.

when you look at the direction of the left, it seems more often than not, it's only for the benefit of the self.
helping people learn magic and peace is all dandy, but why not start with the basics, those with the desire find their way. the ones who aren't even conscious of a soul need to be taught basic manners, you think dropping magical structure on them is going to be productive in the long run?

just saying, polish it up all you like, use colorful adjectives, pretty names whatever, it's still service to self polarity seemingly.

i just want to wash my hands from the whole game, and not necessarily with fire.

please and thank you
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Sure there are and until we solve our unsustainable population issues and end Bible prophecy, wars on the plantation are simply inevitable.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


My point is implementing a "no war" environment right now would mean only 1 social model: The plantation with the same trans-nationalist oligarchy we have now, only more severe tyranny.

PS You're an idiot.
There are no "unsustainable population issues". There are unsustainable government issues.
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


No, you just may be. I agree and disagree because right now we have we have both.

A big government and then a population that is a cancer to the earth. I do not advocate killing, just a natural survival of the fittest without taking taxes by force to feed others who cannot feed themselves. That is unsustainable because the people cannot sustain themselves. To just keep producing plastics and waste so people have a job while we destroy the planet is not wise in one bit.

I would love a no war environment, but I think you are a little late for that and this environment you wish for is in the next age once we have a world government. I am not saying do away with the USA, but we do need unity on a world stage for a no war environment to take place and to take out those countries who are hostile to this plan.

I don't see any other way.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Invert your assumptions.
You are supposedly versed in the mysteries.
See the opposite. Make it work in your mind.
See how a completely de-centralized power model would be superior to a completely centralized model.
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kinky, nice...
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Sure there are and until we solve our unsustainable population issues and end Bible prophecy, wars on the plantation are simply inevitable.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


My point is implementing a "no war" environment right now would mean only 1 social model: The plantation with the same trans-nationalist oligarchy we have now, only more severe tyranny.

PS You're an idiot.
There are no "unsustainable population issues". There are unsustainable government issues.
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


No, you just may be. I agree and disagree because right now we have we have both.

A big government and then a population that is a cancer to the earth. I do not advocate killing, just a natural survival of the fittest without taking taxes by force to feed others who cannot feed themselves. That is unsustainable because the people cannot sustain themselves. To just keep producing plastics and waste so people have a job while we destroy the planet is not wise in one bit.

I would love a no war environment, but I think you are a little late for that and this environment you wish for is in the next age once we have a world government. I am not saying do away with the USA, but we do need unity on a world stage for a no war environment to take place and to take out those countries who are hostile to this plan.

I don't see any other way.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Invert your assumptions.
You are supposedly versed in the mysteries.
See the opposite. Make it work in your mind.
See how a completely de-centralized power model would be superior to a completely centralized model.
 Quoting: Walkers Everywhere


I have and that is exactly what we have had for the last few thousand years and have now. Guess what? It ain't working.

Do you want to go back to like caveman days where we have no managed society and it is just a free for all where the survival of the fittest wins? That would be what a completely de-centralized power model would create. People killing each other for dinner and water. It would get ugly fast, but hey, it may solve our population issues.

Last Edited by Gnostic Warrior on 12/16/2011 07:17 PM
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the luciferian ideology regarding us isn't in our favor physically, you know the ones "helping us".
the same ones that will have their seemingly one world government, but not just for control, for most can't even see the chains already, or the noose.

you can grow thousands of pounds of food in just one acre of space given the right conditions and knowledge. (fact)
with one acre of land, i could feed hundreds all year, and then some.
you see, population control is an idea you subscribe to.
something that's been put into your heads, a meme, a virus, spreading out of control, because people beLIEve it.
if we truly wanted to help the planet and the world, we would just help others without expectations.
i share when i can, which means i could share more, but how hard are any of us really trying to help others, as the world swirls into a distortion of a greater degree? how much effort has been put into actually creating a positive outcome?

while i agree that humans need to take responsibility for themselves, some just refuse, it's not their time to learn.

we are here now, debating, expelling energy arguing, planning conferences and what not.
why not teach basic agriculture, or set up a conference to teach children to read or social skills that are positive.

when you look at the direction of the left, it seems more often than not, it's only for the benefit of the self.
helping people learn magic and peace is all dandy, but why not start with the basics, those with the desire find their way. the ones who aren't even conscious of a soul need to be taught basic manners, you think dropping magical structure on them is going to be productive in the long run?

just saying, polish it up all you like, use colorful adjectives, pretty names whatever, it's still service to self polarity seemingly.

i just want to wash my hands from the whole game, and not necessarily with fire.

please and thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7241573


I agree with a lot of what you said, but why should we grow food to keep people alive that cannot keep themselves alive? So what, then they can have more children and thus perpetuate and unsustainable procreative model that is utterly stupid and is a cancer for our earth?

My thoughts are we should start taking a look at ourselves and our breeding habits.
Regards,

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the luciferian ideology regarding us isn't in our favor physically, you know the ones "helping us".
the same ones that will have their seemingly one world government, but not just for control, for most can't even see the chains already, or the noose.

you can grow thousands of pounds of food in just one acre of space given the right conditions and knowledge. (fact)
with one acre of land, i could feed hundreds all year, and then some.
you see, population control is an idea you subscribe to.
something that's been put into your heads, a meme, a virus, spreading out of control, because people beLIEve it.
if we truly wanted to help the planet and the world, we would just help others without expectations.
i share when i can, which means i could share more, but how hard are any of us really trying to help others, as the world swirls into a distortion of a greater degree? how much effort has been put into actually creating a positive outcome?

while i agree that humans need to take responsibility for themselves, some just refuse, it's not their time to learn.

we are here now, debating, expelling energy arguing, planning conferences and what not.
why not teach basic agriculture, or set up a conference to teach children to read or social skills that are positive.

when you look at the direction of the left, it seems more often than not, it's only for the benefit of the self.
helping people learn magic and peace is all dandy, but why not start with the basics, those with the desire find their way. the ones who aren't even conscious of a soul need to be taught basic manners, you think dropping magical structure on them is going to be productive in the long run?

just saying, polish it up all you like, use colorful adjectives, pretty names whatever, it's still service to self polarity seemingly.

i just want to wash my hands from the whole game, and not necessarily with fire.

please and thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7241573


I agree with a lot of what you said, but why should we grow food to keep people alive that cannot keep themselves alive? So what, then they can have more children and thus perpetuate and unsustainable procreative model that is utterly stupid and is a cancer for our earth?

My thoughts are we should start taking a look at ourselves and our breeding habits.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


i have looked at those habits all my life, i do not have children personally.

feeding those that can't feed themselves is a minor task given the level of consciousness you and we all seem to have. i mean really, is it that much effort given some of our obvious advantages.
i totally understand what you are subscribing to regarding the "useless eaters", but in reality they are just spiritual children. you're a spiritual being, only different in illusion.
bottom line is, had the intention of the left been to illuminate all and raise our spirits higher, it would have been done already.

free will is involved, obviously something isn't right.

how are you not imposing your free will upon others, by "guiding" them into your own personal beliefs structure?

personally i seem to think they have done a good job pulling and pushing, look at all the selfishness in the world.
we are inherently good more often than not, it's manifesting here that's created the problems, but we are the solution. kinda silly, kinda deadly, and such a long process seemingly, even for one life here.

sharing has to be learned, some miss the class, you know what that means, more homework.

please and thank you
let's keep chatting ;)
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the luciferian ideology regarding us isn't in our favor physically, you know the ones "helping us".
the same ones that will have their seemingly one world government, but not just for control, for most can't even see the chains already, or the noose.

you can grow thousands of pounds of food in just one acre of space given the right conditions and knowledge. (fact)
with one acre of land, i could feed hundreds all year, and then some.
you see, population control is an idea you subscribe to.
something that's been put into your heads, a meme, a virus, spreading out of control, because people beLIEve it.
if we truly wanted to help the planet and the world, we would just help others without expectations.
i share when i can, which means i could share more, but how hard are any of us really trying to help others, as the world swirls into a distortion of a greater degree? how much effort has been put into actually creating a positive outcome?

while i agree that humans need to take responsibility for themselves, some just refuse, it's not their time to learn.

we are here now, debating, expelling energy arguing, planning conferences and what not.
why not teach basic agriculture, or set up a conference to teach children to read or social skills that are positive.

when you look at the direction of the left, it seems more often than not, it's only for the benefit of the self.
helping people learn magic and peace is all dandy, but why not start with the basics, those with the desire find their way. the ones who aren't even conscious of a soul need to be taught basic manners, you think dropping magical structure on them is going to be productive in the long run?

just saying, polish it up all you like, use colorful adjectives, pretty names whatever, it's still service to self polarity seemingly.

i just want to wash my hands from the whole game, and not necessarily with fire.

please and thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7241573


I agree with a lot of what you said, but why should we grow food to keep people alive that cannot keep themselves alive? So what, then they can have more children and thus perpetuate and unsustainable procreative model that is utterly stupid and is a cancer for our earth?

My thoughts are we should start taking a look at ourselves and our breeding habits.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


i have looked at those habits all my life, i do not have children personally.

feeding those that can't feed themselves is a minor task given the level of consciousness you and we all seem to have. i mean really, is it that much effort given some of our obvious advantages.
i totally understand what you are subscribing to regarding the "useless eaters", but in reality they are just spiritual children. you're a spiritual being, only different in illusion.
bottom line is, had the intention of the left been to illuminate all and raise our spirits higher, it would have been done already.

free will is involved, obviously something isn't right.

how are you not imposing your free will upon others, by "guiding" them into your own personal beliefs structure?

personally i seem to think they have done a good job pulling and pushing, look at all the selfishness in the world.
we are inherently good more often than not, it's manifesting here that's created the problems, but we are the solution. kinda silly, kinda deadly, and such a long process seemingly, even for one life here.

sharing has to be learned, some miss the class, you know what that means, more homework.

please and thank you
let's keep chatting ;)
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Thanks for your reply to my words.

I love people and wish for everyone to live as well as be fed. But in reality what I wish for is not reality or what God has planned.

My intentions are to have intelligent conversations about tough subjects. I wish to guide no one, but to hopefully open ones eyes who may not see what I feel is a rational point of view. What I am trying to figure out is what are the benefits that our earth and humanity has to have 10 billion people or 20 billion humans? Personally, I feel there no real benefits from have billions of people.

I also think man has done a darn good job for the tools he has been given to get us to where we are now without us all being blown to pieces or poisoned to death. But how long can this last?

Last Edited by Gnostic Warrior on 12/16/2011 08:00 PM
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i do not have an answer to solve the procreation model currently happening on this rock.

grace?
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the luciferian ideology regarding us isn't in our favor physically, you know the ones "helping us".
the same ones that will have their seemingly one world government, but not just for control, for most can't even see the chains already, or the noose.

you can grow thousands of pounds of food in just one acre of space given the right conditions and knowledge. (fact)
with one acre of land, i could feed hundreds all year, and then some.
you see, population control is an idea you subscribe to.
something that's been put into your heads, a meme, a virus, spreading out of control, because people beLIEve it.
if we truly wanted to help the planet and the world, we would just help others without expectations.
i share when i can, which means i could share more, but how hard are any of us really trying to help others, as the world swirls into a distortion of a greater degree? how much effort has been put into actually creating a positive outcome?

while i agree that humans need to take responsibility for themselves, some just refuse, it's not their time to learn.

we are here now, debating, expelling energy arguing, planning conferences and what not.
why not teach basic agriculture, or set up a conference to teach children to read or social skills that are positive.

when you look at the direction of the left, it seems more often than not, it's only for the benefit of the self.
helping people learn magic and peace is all dandy, but why not start with the basics, those with the desire find their way. the ones who aren't even conscious of a soul need to be taught basic manners, you think dropping magical structure on them is going to be productive in the long run?

just saying, polish it up all you like, use colorful adjectives, pretty names whatever, it's still service to self polarity seemingly.

i just want to wash my hands from the whole game, and not necessarily with fire.

please and thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7241573


I agree with a lot of what you said, but why should we grow food to keep people alive that cannot keep themselves alive? So what, then they can have more children and thus perpetuate and unsustainable procreative model that is utterly stupid and is a cancer for our earth?

My thoughts are we should start taking a look at ourselves and our breeding habits.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


i have looked at those habits all my life, i do not have children personally.

feeding those that can't feed themselves is a minor task given the level of consciousness you and we all seem to have. i mean really, is it that much effort given some of our obvious advantages.
i totally understand what you are subscribing to regarding the "useless eaters", but in reality they are just spiritual children. you're a spiritual being, only different in illusion.
bottom line is, had the intention of the left been to illuminate all and raise our spirits higher, it would have been done already.

free will is involved, obviously something isn't right.

how are you not imposing your free will upon others, by "guiding" them into your own personal beliefs structure?

personally i seem to think they have done a good job pulling and pushing, look at all the selfishness in the world.
we are inherently good more often than not, it's manifesting here that's created the problems, but we are the solution. kinda silly, kinda deadly, and such a long process seemingly, even for one life here.

sharing has to be learned, some miss the class, you know what that means, more homework.

please and thank you
let's keep chatting ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7241573


Thanks for your reply to my words.

I love people and wish for everyone to live as well as be fed. But in reality what I wish for is not reality or what God has planned.

My intentions are to have intelligent conversations about tough subjects. I wish to guide no one, but to hopefully open ones eyes who may not see what I feel is a rational point of view. What I am trying to figure out is what are the benefits that our earth and humanity has to have 10 billion people or 20 billion humans? Personally, I feel there no real benefits from have billions of people.

I also think man has done a darn good job for the tools he has been given to get us to where we are now without us all being blown to pieces or poisoned to death. But how long can this last?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


you can rationalize anything given the correct stimuli.

i think you need to focus on getting the idea out of your cranium, that people and hungry people are a problem.


wealth distribution is a problem, and those who covet the power associated with it, and those above them, and probably some bunch of beings above them also.

i don't have the answers, but controlling food makes people slaves, making slaves of people isn't positive seemingly.
controlling breeding makes a slave, controlling thinking makes a slave, not knowing you are a slave makes you a slave.

and you desire more slavery on this planet?

we can't go sterilizing the planet, who does that?

oh that's right.....

please and thank you
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you can rationalize anything given the correct stimuli.

i think you need to focus on getting the idea out of your cranium, that people and hungry people are a problem.


wealth distribution is a problem, and those who covet the power associated with it, and those above them, and probably some bunch of beings above them also.

i don't have the answers, but controlling food makes people slaves, making slaves of people isn't positive seemingly.
controlling breeding makes a slave, controlling thinking makes a slave, not knowing you are a slave makes you a slave.

and you desire more slavery on this planet?

we can't go sterilizing the planet, who does that?

oh that's right.....

please and thank you
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clappa

Riddle me this Templar...

Where would these "useless eaters" take their $1-$2/day to live on to buy condoms? The local 7/11, Plaid Pantry, Rite Aid, Walmart? These people walk for days to find WATER. Let alone a convenience store.

These people live in the middle of nowhere with NO access to easy birth control.

Tell me this Templar, lets pretend for a second that YOU lived in such conditions.

You have a hot YOUNG wife and you are sexually attracted to her. Now, pretend that you can't get in your car, grab a bottle of wine and head back with a pocket full of condoms. What would you do? Would you abstain indefinitely? Or would you do it anyway?

That's what I thought.

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i've noticed, you crack me up with your keen wit and insight, thanks.
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Apollo,
I like your Tom Cruise Avatar. Or are you Tom Cruise?
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nah, looks like the dude from "idiocracy", he was in bongwater with jack black...
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My point is implementing a "no war" environment right now would mean only 1 social model: The plantation with the same trans-nationalist oligarchy we have now, only more severe tyranny.

PS You're an idiot.
There are no "unsustainable population issues". There are unsustainable government issues.
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No, you just may be. I agree and disagree because right now we have we have both.

A big government and then a population that is a cancer to the earth. I do not advocate killing, just a natural survival of the fittest without taking taxes by force to feed others who cannot feed themselves. That is unsustainable because the people cannot sustain themselves. To just keep producing plastics and waste so people have a job while we destroy the planet is not wise in one bit.

I would love a no war environment, but I think you are a little late for that and this environment you wish for is in the next age once we have a world government. I am not saying do away with the USA, but we do need unity on a world stage for a no war environment to take place and to take out those countries who are hostile to this plan.

I don't see any other way.
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Invert your assumptions.
You are supposedly versed in the mysteries.
See the opposite. Make it work in your mind.
See how a completely de-centralized power model would be superior to a completely centralized model.
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I have and that is exactly what we have had for the last few thousand years and have now. Guess what? It ain't working.

Do you want to go back to like caveman days where we have no managed society and it is just a free for all where the survival of the fittest wins? That would be what a completely de-centralized power model would create. People killing each other for dinner and water. It would get ugly fast, but hey, it may solve our population issues.
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No, you just may be. I agree and disagree because right now we have we have both.

A big government and then a population that is a cancer to the earth. I do not advocate killing, just a natural survival of the fittest without taking taxes by force to feed others who cannot feed themselves. That is unsustainable because the people cannot sustain themselves. To just keep producing plastics and waste so people have a job while we destroy the planet is not wise in one bit.

I would love a no war environment, but I think you are a little late for that and this environment you wish for is in the next age once we have a world government. I am not saying do away with the USA, but we do need unity on a world stage for a no war environment to take place and to take out those countries who are hostile to this plan.

I don't see any other way.
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Invert your assumptions.
You are supposedly versed in the mysteries.
See the opposite. Make it work in your mind.
See how a completely de-centralized power model would be superior to a completely centralized model.
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I have and that is exactly what we have had for the last few thousand years and have now. Guess what? It ain't working.

Do you want to go back to like caveman days where we have no managed society and it is just a free for all where the survival of the fittest wins? That would be what a completely de-centralized power model would create. People killing each other for dinner and water. It would get ugly fast, but hey, it may solve our population issues.
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You are such a six-pack of fail.

OK, whatever dude. Best of luck in the cull that is aimed straight at people like you.

At least the ignorant don't pretend to be enlightened.
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You make me laugh for I make perfect sense.

If anything is aimed at me, I am ready and I am ready to die as well. It is not what I wish, but I am unafraid of death or anything. The cull is aimed at the ignorant and selfish who will cull themselves by their own profane ways of life. This has been proven time and time again. All I can do is try and open their eyes and maybe make their falls less hard.

The ignorant actually do pretend that often for I see it all over the new age movement and the internet. In addition to here on the GLP. This place is a cess pool of ignorant humans who think they are enlightened to the truth and reality when in fact many are so far off the path that they may never come back. At least I am attempting to smack them in the face with their realities.
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Haha, can't wait until reality smacks the ignorant my friend.
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i am interested in going, it'd be nice to make some connections
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but why should we grow food to keep people alive that cannot keep themselves alive? So what, then they can have more children and thus perpetuate and unsustainable procreative model that is utterly stupid and is a cancer for our earth?

My thoughts are we should start taking a look at ourselves and our breeding habits.
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i have looked at those habits all my life, i do not have children personally.

feeding those that can't feed themselves is a minor task given the level of consciousness you and we all seem to have. i mean really, is it that much effort given some of our obvious advantages.
i totally understand what you are subscribing to regarding the "useless eaters", but in reality they are just spiritual children. you're a spiritual being, only different in illusion.
bottom line is, had the intention of the left been to illuminate all and raise our spirits higher, it would have been done already.

free will is involved, obviously something isn't right.

how are you not imposing your free will upon others, by "guiding" them into your own personal beliefs structure?

personally i seem to think they have done a good job pulling and pushing, look at all the selfishness in the world.
we are inherently good more often than not, it's manifesting here that's created the problems, but we are the solution. kinda silly, kinda deadly, and such a long process seemingly, even for one life here.

sharing has to be learned, some miss the class, you know what that means, more homework.

please and thank you
let's keep chatting ;)
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Thanks for your reply to my words.

I love people and wish for everyone to live as well as be fed. But in reality what I wish for is not reality or what God has planned.

My intentions are to have intelligent conversations about tough subjects. I wish to guide no one, but to hopefully open ones eyes who may not see what I feel is a rational point of view. What I am trying to figure out is what are the benefits that our earth and humanity has to have 10 billion people or 20 billion humans? Personally, I feel there no real benefits from have billions of people.

I also think man has done a darn good job for the tools he has been given to get us to where we are now without us all being blown to pieces or poisoned to death. But how long can this last?
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you can rationalize anything given the correct stimuli.

i think you need to focus on getting the idea out of your cranium, that people and hungry people are a problem.


wealth distribution is a problem, and those who covet the power associated with it, and those above them, and probably some bunch of beings above them also.

i don't have the answers, but controlling food makes people slaves, making slaves of people isn't positive seemingly.
controlling breeding makes a slave, controlling thinking makes a slave, not knowing you are a slave makes you a slave.

and you desire more slavery on this planet?

we can't go sterilizing the planet, who does that?

oh that's right.....

please and thank you
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Most of us already slaves and if you don't think you are, try not paying your taxes for several years or do whatever you want to make money or just about anything. We are self contained slaves in this technological type world where we are pretty free to move about, but we still have to pay "our masters." But hey, I am perfectly cool with that for we live in a nice country with relative safety and a fair and just system.

Wealth distribution is already happening and we need to find solutions other than taxes.I am not talking about controlling food or making anyone a slave, but letting nature take its course and stop this insanity.

The government does not control our thinking and we are free to search and seek answers on our own. In addition, it is in the household with parents where this should take place and one should not rely on the state to give our children all their answers. Unfortunately, this is where most all parents and our society fails, in the home.

Yes, we need a co-op sterilization program is exactly what we need with voluntary sterilizations based on monetary incentives and free will. Those on welfare will be on mandatory birth control. You see, smart and simple measures like that is what I am proposing.

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I think a Global Redistribution of Property is the only Just Way. Will be easier if people can grow for themselves and have property of their own.
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