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for the klein/mobius fans...are you speaking in terms of a 2D surface either with/without a boundary? if so, at what point does everything become 3D?

i tend to look at it from this perspective, which may be similar... [link to homepage.mac.com]
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First as someone who reads Cit. Perth threads I am very sad that he is being a ass.

Second this is a great thread.

Third thanks SS for your graphic, forward time...reverse time.

As a writer/researcher this stuff is gold.
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Always keep in mind certain things though, when images are presented. We DO NOT SEE the reverse 'time', only the forward. I think OP, would word this different, as time is an illusion. Basically, change, or Cause and Effect is a sequence of events. You must have cause occur before effect. You can't do this backwards. You cannot have an effect that creates its original cause. (In normal human terms, that would be Time Travel to the past. I am just demonstrating ideas, not absolutes)

So, in that aether unit image, we humans would never 'see' the 'reverse' aspect of it. It would be as if it did not exist.

We would only see the forward moving pulse of manifestation in our current reality.
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
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That's because you're a fucking tool that will believe anything as long as they use big words.
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
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That's because you're a fucking tool that will believe anything as long as they use big words.
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:moe:
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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You say "In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole"

That could be you! However it happened long ago, now the thing you deny yet admit exists "time" is running out.....

Ask a 90 year old if time is a myth?

Oh btw you need to rephrase your line "It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

Why? It is an in-congruent statement by your own admission genius.......you used "time" which you categorically deny exists.
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Thread: Time & Other Concepts
Time, in Buddhism, is defined as a measurement of change. For example, a month is the measurement of change involved either externally in the moon circling the earth or internally in a woman going from one menstruation to the next. Such changes are cyclical in that the pattern repeats, although the events of each cycle are not completely identical. Externally, the universe passes through cosmic, astronomical, astrological and historical cycles.
[link to www.berzinarchives.com]
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Really great read, and I do not disbelieve it.
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Why? What method of discernment do you use?
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
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That's because you're a fucking tool that will believe anything as long as they use big words.
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Stalking another member now?
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Thread: Time & Other Concepts
Time, in Buddhism, is defined as a measurement of change. For example, a month is the measurement of change involved either externally in the moon circling the earth or internally in a woman going from one menstruation to the next. Such changes are cyclical in that the pattern repeats, although the events of each cycle are not completely identical. Externally, the universe passes through cosmic, astronomical, astrological and historical cycles.
[link to www.berzinarchives.com]
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
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That's because you're a fucking tool that will believe anything as long as they use big words.
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Stalking another member now?
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You could be the Tool or the Tool maker.
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Thread: Time & Other Concepts
Time, in Buddhism, is defined as a measurement of change. For example, a month is the measurement of change involved either externally in the moon circling the earth or internally in a woman going from one menstruation to the next. Such changes are cyclical in that the pattern repeats, although the events of each cycle are not completely identical. Externally, the universe passes through cosmic, astronomical, astrological and historical cycles.
[link to www.berzinarchives.com]
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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Oh yeah, right. The only way to God is through Jesus, right? All else is a waste of time. You see, I acknowledge it exists, just not in the way you think.

lol
I bring up the way Buddhist view time, and you immediately say I won't get to God through Buddhism. You got an agenda, or what!?
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Thread: Time & Other Concepts
Time, in Buddhism, is defined as a measurement of change. For example, a month is the measurement of change involved either externally in the moon circling the earth or internally in a woman going from one menstruation to the next. Such changes are cyclical in that the pattern repeats, although the events of each cycle are not completely identical. Externally, the universe passes through cosmic, astronomical, astrological and historical cycles.
[link to www.berzinarchives.com]
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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Brother, where to start looking because so much information is distorted. Makes my head spin. Some days I feel like I am getting closer to finding the answers, then the next day the rug is pulled out from under me.
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
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That's because you're a fucking tool that will believe anything as long as they use big words.
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:moe:
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that made me laugh!
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vorticular wrapping.




A Dodecaedron could be extended over and over again; to the outside, but also to the inside.
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OP, you still around?
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epic.

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Thread: Time & Other Concepts
Time, in Buddhism, is defined as a measurement of change. For example, a month is the measurement of change involved either externally in the moon circling the earth or internally in a woman going from one menstruation to the next. Such changes are cyclical in that the pattern repeats, although the events of each cycle are not completely identical. Externally, the universe passes through cosmic, astronomical, astrological and historical cycles.
[link to www.berzinarchives.com]
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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Oh yeah, right. The only way to God is through Jesus, right? All else is a waste of time. You see, I acknowledge it exists, just not in the way you think.

lol
I bring up the way Buddhist view time, and you immediately say I won't get to God through Buddhism. You got an agenda, or what!?
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I intend to bring you home! "What do you have that you did not receive? "
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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Oh yeah, right. The only way to God is through Jesus, right? All else is a waste of time. You see, I acknowledge it exists, just not in the way you think.

lol
I bring up the way Buddhist view time, and you immediately say I won't get to God through Buddhism. You got an agenda, or what!?
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I intend to bring you home! "What do you have that you did not receive? "
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Thank you for your concern. I'm really OK, though. Honest. I understand much.

Infinite are the ways to God. I am just intending to bring you to awareness. Did that convert you to a different way of seeing God? Of course not. Then why would you think your simple words would do the same to me?
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Please tell us something that we don't already know. ty
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Please tell us something that we don't already know. ty
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I think OP left...

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did the op bridge out?
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You will never get to God via Buddhism......if it does not get you closer to the Potter (our father aka the Creator).....you are wasting time.....that is if you acknowledge it even exists.
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Oh yeah, right. The only way to God is through Jesus, right? All else is a waste of time. You see, I acknowledge it exists, just not in the way you think.

lol
I bring up the way Buddhist view time, and you immediately say I won't get to God through Buddhism. You got an agenda, or what!?
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I intend to bring you home! "What do you have that you did not receive? "
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Thank you for your concern. I'm really OK, though. Honest. I understand much.

Infinite are the ways to God. I am just intending to bring you to awareness. Did that convert you to a different way of seeing God? Of course not. Then why would you think your simple words would do the same to me?
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"Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you glory as if you had not received it?"
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Oh yeah, right. The only way to God is through Jesus, right? All else is a waste of time. You see, I acknowledge it exists, just not in the way you think.

lol
I bring up the way Buddhist view time, and you immediately say I won't get to God through Buddhism. You got an agenda, or what!?
 Quoting: SickScent


I intend to bring you home! "What do you have that you did not receive? "
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Thank you for your concern. I'm really OK, though. Honest. I understand much.

Infinite are the ways to God. I am just intending to bring you to awareness. Did that convert you to a different way of seeing God? Of course not. Then why would you think your simple words would do the same to me?
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"Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you glory as if you had not received it?"
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I do not 'glory' as if.
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99.99999% kill theirselves before they get to that stage? bullshit. religion is the only reason that we nuke each other. you think there is the exact same problem everywhere? yeah right. im not wasting my time explaining how the rest is bs. if you really wanted to prove it, you could just do something amazing in a video and upload it....but yeah, you're a habitual liar so you will make up some bs reason why you can't
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I intend to bring you home! "What do you have that you did not receive? "
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Thank you for your concern. I'm really OK, though. Honest. I understand much.

Infinite are the ways to God. I am just intending to bring you to awareness. Did that convert you to a different way of seeing God? Of course not. Then why would you think your simple words would do the same to me?
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"Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you glory as if you had not received it?"
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I do not 'glory' as if.
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So you say!
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I spent a lot of time considering Universe and Quantam Physics type things like these, I believe there are remnence of Universes that have existed, if anything this is how I believe quarks became atoms and atoms molecules. They began to layer themselves and become more. I.E. Spirit came before flesh and now spirit uses flesh to interact with the Universe. I also believe the makings of Universes to come are present and found in the hopes and dream of mankind and the planet Earth.

Do you have any thoughts, I'm still learning/remembering a lot about myself so I'm like an Evolving Thought right now, thanks.
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All this reminds me the whole Castaneda stuff. Always thought there was truth in all that mumbo jumbo. Like all our reality is a code we've been taught from the very first day, so now, to think out of the box is very complex since we would have to relearn in a completly different way.
Also, that concept of 'vibration' and that the key to the bridging is making certain atomic structures vibrate at the correct frecuencies, reminds me the string theory, and how, supposely, the different vibrations of the strings make the different atoms, and hence the reality...

Am I just talking BS here, or does any of this make any sense ?
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So OP how do you intend to verify this info for us?
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I don't, because it is against what is proper. Always when technology / information is GIVEN to others that have not themselves matured to a point of discovering for themselves always results in tragic outcomes.
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of course you can't.. but whilst yer at it.. please pass the bong... you must have some seriously good shit...

bonghit
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OP is feeling lonely, unimportant and he feels if he get get a good hoax going it will fulfill his empty life.
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Is it OP that needs to fulfill an empty life or it it you? How could you know that is what OP is doing unless you yourself have had the experience? Not arguing with you. I just know that the only way someone were to know anything is if they themselves have experienced it.
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Sasquatch can travel dimensionally. I knew they were much more evolved then the human manifestation.
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Some interesting ideas.

However, how can we be "young" and how can we "age," etc if there is no such thing as time, and time is an illusion? Seems contradictory.
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Decay
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But, from that article:
"However, the chance that a given atom will decay is constant over time."

"...gamma decay was almost always found associated with other types of decay, occurring at about the same time, or afterward."

"...the process is not thought to vary significantly in mechanism over time, it is also a valuable tool in estimating the absolute ages of certain materials."

The half-life — t1/2, is the time taken for the activity of a given amount of a radioactive substance to decay to half of its initial value.
The mean lifetime — τ, "tau" the average lifetime of a radioactive particle before decay.
The decay constant — λ, "lambda" the inverse of the mean lifetime.

etc

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