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Your life-beings are young (humans) but I am going to share some information.

 
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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I had a feeling, a knowing as it were that generally this is the case.

A question...

you mention that universes are nested within each other in relation to size?

Would a smaller universe be simpler? In relation to the periodic chart of elements? Would a larger universe be more complex?

Or I guess what I'm actually asking is at the atomic level are the particles that make up an atom inhabited?
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Ok, I have returned as promised.

To understand what I am speaking of requires you to shift a little from what you have been taught previously.

When I speak of "smaller" and "larger" I don't mean it in in a sense of how like an automobile is "larger" than a "computer".

I need you to think of size more as like a direction of travel.

Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.

They are all the same, elements are the same everywhere as they are all of the same construct.

No, atomic structure is atomic structure. There are smaller particles then yet you have discovered but there are a small base set of them. Those particles are the same regardless of which "direction" you go.

With my description above I think you can find your path to correct conclusions.

Stop thinking linear (which is not your fault it is how you were given information) and think of things outside of your typical 3D observations and think how things must connect together.
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Sounds something like a scalar Klein Bubble. Here is a Klein Bottle. Klein Bubble would be a spherical representation of the Bottle.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.


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A torus within a field of toruses that create yet another torus.. to infinity, with each torus having a unique perspective of self at all scales..
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You are getting there. Now combine that visual with a funnel and you are on the right track.
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I have.. the funnel/vortex IS the center of the torus. at the center of the pinched vortex is the singularity, the I within, the I am, the processor of consciousness, the creator of gravity(processed consciousness).. the reason why when a 3D being dies here in this plane, they instantly lose a small amount of weight.. their torroidal flow is no longer from within the body.. the small amount of gravity they create through processing consciousness is no longer 'attached' to the body..
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Some interesting ideas.

However, how can we be "young" and how can we "age," etc if there is no such thing as time, and time is an illusion? Seems contradictory.
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Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.


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A torus within a field of toruses that create yet another torus.. to infinity, with each torus having a unique perspective of self at all scales..
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You are getting there. Now combine that visual with a funnel and you are on the right track.
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A cardioid?

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Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.


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A torus within a field of toruses that create yet another torus.. to infinity, with each torus having a unique perspective of self at all scales..
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Funny thing is, when you go in closer to the smaller sphere, the the one experiencing the travel would view everything remaining the same size. So, in reality, it would not be a smaller sphere in the center of the larger sphere. It is all the same size to the one experiencing the travel!
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OP what you say about the whole reminds me of the taurus image => [link to blackmadonna2009.files.wordpress.com]

When you talk about direction, does it ultimately relate to Phi as a dimensional factor?

I find what you say fascinating! Thank you!
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Excellent visual --- that is not far off surprising enough.

PI has no application to what I am talking about short of perhaps design considerations.

And actually, there are alternate numbers even more accurate then PI. I believe here on earth they have already discovered one of them.

I am pleased you find my data fascinating.
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That is the luxadrome pattern as referenced in the aether unit.

[link to www.16pi2.com]

:aetheru:
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.

They are all the same, elements are the same everywhere as they are all of the same construct.

No, atomic structure is atomic structure. There are smaller particles then yet you have discovered but there are a small base set of them. Those particles are the same regardless of which "direction" you go.

With my description above I think you can find your path to correct conclusions.

Stop thinking linear (which is not your fault it is how you were given information) and think of things outside of your typical 3D observations and think how things must connect together.
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I'm not suggesting that psychedelic drugs are a desirable method of aquiring awareness, but, the concepts of which you speak first occurred to me while under the influence of L.S.D. and I knew that my insights had value, even though my use of these drugs was purely selfish and recreational.

My question is , did the drugs have anything to do with my gaining this awareness or were they just a catalyst revealing to my consciousnous what my sub-conscious already knew?
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Really great read, and I do not disbelieve it.
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OP,

Thank you for this post, the information has strengthened some of my prior believes

I have a few questions

[link to video.google.com]

this documentary shows a physicist - dale pond, going into what is known as sympathetic vibration and that there is technically infinite amount of energy in everything.

he has a model of an engine that was claimed to "come to life" when they put it in water.

could you comment on this?
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Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.


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A torus within a field of toruses that create yet another torus.. to infinity, with each torus having a unique perspective of self at all scales..
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Funny thing is, when you go in closer to the smaller sphere, the the one experiencing the travel would view everything remaining the same size. So, in reality, it would not be a smaller sphere in the center of the larger sphere. It is all the same size to the one experiencing the travel!
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OP, you missed my post too...What are your thoughts on anastasia of the ringing cedars? She explains how God started with creating,Adam,etc..It all boils down to we're co-creators with God.
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OP what you say about the whole reminds me of the taurus image => [link to blackmadonna2009.files.wordpress.com]

When you talk about direction, does it ultimately relate to Phi as a dimensional factor?

I find what you say fascinating! Thank you!
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Excellent visual --- that is not far off surprising enough.

PI has no application to what I am talking about short of perhaps design considerations.

And actually, there are alternate numbers even more accurate then PI. I believe here on earth they have already discovered one of them.

I am pleased you find my data fascinating.
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That is the luxadrome pattern as referenced in the aether unit.

[link to www.16pi2.com]

:aetheru:
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Been waiting for you SS. I copied your Sixth Sense thread on this thread. So the OP could look at your research. His thoughts reminded me of your posts.

I think you are both on to something.
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Well after reading these 9 pages and enduring citizendicks input, i have ignored him and came to the conclusion, we are screwed after death, and have to get lucky enough to discover this great technology to i guess "observe" as the OP states before we die or else we will just be stuck in deathland or something.

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Let me guess... your uncle works at CERN?
And what exactly is 'vorticular'? Is that a proper scientific term, or even a real word?

hmm
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This humor made me laugh. No, CERN is not involved here nor is my "Uncle".

I am just a visiting observer. People that are of interest to me gather in certain places, this happens to be one of them.

Yes, vorticular is a real thing and was the best term I could use to describe it to you. It is basically "everything". Think of it as a big "sphere" that can infinitely "fold in" on itself... without ending. That is the most simple way I can describe the construct.
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Like a Mobius strip or a Klein bottle?

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Hah! AC, thats what I got as well.
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Great post OP. Nothing too far fetched in your discussion from my perspective. This stuff is all pretty relative to me. My question is, do we really need technology to do things like travel to "parallel universes", "alternate earths" and so on? Knowing that the answer is no, what is your best explanation on how we can program our minds to be better disciplined in these areas without waiting for the natural evolutionary process.
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OP what you say about the whole reminds me of the taurus image => [link to blackmadonna2009.files.wordpress.com]

When you talk about direction, does it ultimately relate to Phi as a dimensional factor?

I find what you say fascinating! Thank you!
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Excellent visual --- that is not far off surprising enough.

PI has no application to what I am talking about short of perhaps design considerations.

And actually, there are alternate numbers even more accurate then PI. I believe here on earth they have already discovered one of them.

I am pleased you find my data fascinating.
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That is the luxadrome pattern as referenced in the aether unit.

[link to www.16pi2.com]

:aetheru:
 Quoting: SickScent


Been waiting for you SS. I copied your Sixth Sense thread on this thread. So the OP could look at your research. His thoughts reminded me of your posts.

I think you are both on to something.
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Been busy at work. Interesting theories. There are some that are beginning to come out and admit that certain techs ARE out there, just not publicly available. Which is interesting as there does seem to be a certain ramping up of information. Sucks though, because it is still just 'information' and not actual visible 'proof'. Makes me wonder what is going on. scratching

BTW, thanks for the kind words!
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Been busy at work. Interesting theories. There are some that are beginning to come out and admit that certain techs ARE out there, just not publicly available. Which is interesting as there does seem to be a certain ramping up of information. Sucks though, because it is still just 'information' and not actual visible 'proof'. Makes me wonder what is going on. scratching

BTW, thanks for the kind words!
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Yea, everything is speeding up. We are reaching "the point". I can "feel it". I am sure you can as well.

Soon Brother, soon. Cant wait to observe the "proof". Not long now.

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These types of threads are getting thick with the stench of bullshit. Well-written, and the thoughts are interesting, but enough of the BS saying that you're an "observer on earth".

Just come out and post your interesting thoughts and positions, then discuss - not presenting yourself as some all-knowing "observer" with the knowledge and insight of "parallel universes".

Another AC, another attention-seeking tard. And of all places, I should be grateful that you posted this on GLP, OF ALL PLACES, OP?

By the way, "observer" - your spelling, and some grammar, needs work.

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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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Bullshit.

It is like we NEED technology.

And don't tell me that we are young when you say time is infinite.

Too much contradictions in your post OP.

You want people to stay in this 'prison' or what?
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sad that people have such low self-esteem, they have to play a star trek character.
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seems logical to me, captain...
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Imagine a sphere. You are on the "edge" of the sphere with the "center" being smaller. As you travel inward toward the center things are becoming "infinitely" smaller as you go... once you hit the center you have returned to the edge from where you were to begin with, but it is not the same edge where you were. A flow a certain direction (direction is the best word I can find but it is not in the traditional sense you speak are thinking) is a reference to size.

Image that sphere constantly folding in upon itself ... forever... then imagine it flowing outward over its own edges going the other "direction"... the "visual link" that you are searching for from the center to the edge and the edge to the center is what you need to understand is how infinite smaller and larger works in this regard. They are connected.


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A torus within a field of toruses that create yet another torus.. to infinity, with each torus having a unique perspective of self at all scales..
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Funny thing is, when you go in closer to the smaller sphere, the the one experiencing the travel would view everything remaining the same size. So, in reality, it would not be a smaller sphere in the center of the larger sphere. It is all the same size to the one experiencing the travel!
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verycool
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:donkey:
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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Bullshit.

It is like we NEED technology.

And don't tell me that we are young when you say time is infinite.

Too much contradictions in your post OP.

You want people to stay in this 'prison' or what?
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You talk like we're some dumbfucks.. baby pinheads.

We're just a species that's playing a game with amnesia.. that is what i understand.

And your words don't reach me. I don't believe it.

It's like you want to imprent a truth in our heads.

Or you're just playing a silly game.
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sad that people have such low self-esteem, they have to play a star trek character.
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seems logical to me, captain...
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that was the most intersting thing i have read in quite a while.
There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know.
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Let me guess... your uncle works at CERN?
And what exactly is 'vorticular'? Is that a proper scientific term, or even a real word?

hmm
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This humor made me laugh. No, CERN is not involved here nor is my "Uncle".

I am just a visiting observer. People that are of interest to me gather in certain places, this happens to be one of them.

Yes, vorticular is a real thing and was the best term I could use to describe it to you. It is basically "everything". Think of it as a big "sphere" that can infinitely "fold in" on itself... without ending. That is the most simple way I can describe the construct.
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Like a Mobius strip or a Klein bottle?

.
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Hah! AC, thats what I got as well.
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Makes me think of Pac-Man... as he moves off one side of the screen and appears on the other, from his perspective he's in a brand new room

Plus, the Pac-Man maze is shaped like a magnetic field or torus

Spirits are occasionally released from the center of the singularity and attack the PerfectAlchemicalChimera-Man until he consumes enough material knowledge to temporarily see the spirits for what they are, and consume them too, thus gaining their insight and power, only to repeat the process over and over
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If one person had the desire to unite the human race in peace and love, do you have a recipe for this? It would have to be a very potent recipe...
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


No many with bad intentions (your elite) and free will.

They will have control for a while I believe.
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Why is this allowed? why has it been the standard of life on this planet, does it not violate billions of souls residing here? why aren't there means of ending it?
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Nothing remains the same. Everything is in a constant state of change. From atomics to the higher structures they all change. Your planet will be a very different place in 10, 50, 100, 1000, 10000 years. It needs to be left alone to develop naturally.

If others come to your planet and change its future what it may have become never is allowed to form.

Perhaps one day your species will be one of if not the most advanced. We will only find out by not altering the natural course of events.
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But haven't other beings come here and changed our course, for better or worse?

Why is this Earth incarnation such a hotbed of activity? Are the others the same as far as getting this attention?

If all layers and Earths are connected then did or do the unseen ones observe what we become, an advanced species (speculating), and are trying to exterminate us?

Did we create everything, decide to go back and re-live it, and were usurped by our own creation? Like an engineered virus that gets loose and destroys its creator?
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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Douche of the decade post, I hope your mom cancels your cable fool.
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sad that people have such low self-esteem, they have to play a star trek character.

spock
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Maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong, you want to express your sadness then say so instead of playing SPOCK giving his opinion that anyone who finds this thread interesting is sad.
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First as someone who reads Cit. Perth threads I am very sad that he is being a ass.

Second this is a great thread.

Third thanks SS for your graphic, forward time...reverse time.

As a writer/researcher this stuff is gold.
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I will set you on the correct path because I know.

Actually what you seek requires you to simply accept that there are an infinite number of Universes SMALLER than the one your reality sensors (eyes, ears, etc) show you.. and there are an infinite number of Universes LARGER than the one your reality sensors show you.

Time is an illusion and simply is a method your mind uses to create "markers" in your reality observations. What you would call time (which does not exist as you call it) is again infinite (and for the purposes of no better method you will understand, circular).

There are also an infinite number of parallel Universes (what you call Universes) that occupy the same "space" that your dimensionally observable matter occupies. You actually have the technology currently to observe it as well but in doing so could actually cause problems with your DOM because you will create a bilateral conduit. In other words you might bring in something you don't want to bring in. There are others that can control that but none that occupy the vorticular space you call earth have discovered it. Speaking on a statistic basis MOST life-beings that discover it end up destroying their realities because the massive step forward in their reality (their reality all of a sudden becomes a MUCH larger place) typically is too much to handle. Why? Example. If earth space was to bridge and the infinite earths gain pathway only one needs to do something (on level of a nuke but worse, little larger) it will have effect in all of the infinite spaces. In other words only one of your infinite brothers would need to do something to harm the whole. In addition, if one opens it none of the others can close it -- it is impossible because one has no more power over the other. The space opening the bridge must close it. Remember this is the same "space" there is just something in place that naturally keeps you from it and it from crossing. You are actually REMOVING something, not creating something to access it. Anyhow...

Inter-dimensional travel has been discovered by a magnitude more life-beings in the "universes" than have discovered vorticular wrapping, which is necessary for travel to other places in the vorticular (think other places in your galaxy or other galaxies in your space).

There are few life-beings speaking on a percentage basis in the vorticular that have discovered BOTH abilities.

Humans can do ONE now with the technology that exists (limiting access to parallel earths basically -- thankfully too as humans are too young to be going other places) but not access to the other. Please note that I said they HAVE the technology for Inter-dimensional travel but have not discovered yet HOW to do it. This applies to all the earth spaces as once ONE discovers it they will make it known (not intentionally either) to the other earth spaces because it will create a visible bridge.

By my estimation if the life-beings of human do not self exterminate then within 2000 years they will have the technology available for vorticular wrapping.

The final thing I want to point out is that there is no end to the "Universe". The little bit humans can observe is, by all accounts a pin head sized area in a infinite expanding vorticular in every direction. Wrap your mind around this concept. Lets assume humans DID have the power source necessary for vorticular wrapping and you can start moving your observation point. A common mistake by those life-beings first discovering the ability is the move their point of observation and have no point how to reverse the steps. In other words, they never return to from where they came. Imaging leaving your earth space and never being able to get home. It has happened many times that I am even aware of, countless more I am sure.

There is more to say but I have already said way more then I probably should have said. All I want to tell you is that there is more then your imagination can even create out there. No human mind is even able to store the infinite data let alone imagine it all. Impossible. No life-being has that ability only the one vortinular itself has that knowledge as it is of itself.

Imaging an extended human life of say 80 years. Now, imagine your entire life experience and all the knowledge you learn during that lifetime, even the most intelligent of your life-beings. All that knowledge learned is about 1 minute of that life span... the remaining 79+ years is still knowledge you must learn before vorticular wrapping shall be on your doorstep.

I honestly hope your life-beings don't destroy yourselves because you have potential one day to become a true greater part of the vorticular, which believe it or not, less than 99.99999% of life-beings ever mature before self elimination to that level. If one constant you will understand exists among most life-beings is there is typically a self created hierarchy that feeds on themselves ultimately ending is self annihilation. Earths have such a structure some are far worse then yours.

Just think... from YOUR observation point you know of 200 Billion stars in your Galaxy and in addition you know of millions of more Galaxies containing collectively lets see, a billion trillion stars.

Now imagine being that pinhead (the pinhead being the billion trillion starts described above) in an infinite sized "space" in all directions.

That is as close to "as it is" as you would call truth.
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The Truth you say you speak was gained how?

Where can the other citizens of earth learn of these things?

Why do you deny the Truth?





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