The Fate of The Internet to be Determined in Approximately One Hour

So... just to be clear, we're agreeing right?

What is your OS of choice?

Agreed.

Lo-tech = HAM bandwidth ...

linux, there is no other OS

Personally, I'm just going to stick to FreeNet and TOR. Especially FreeNet. There's a lot of cool stuff on their and it's next to impossible to track someone at all.

Also, how's the billl looking so far?

Hell yeah!
Packet radio can NEVER be taken down :)

Very easily agreed. I run xUbuntu 11.10.

Got CrunchBang on another machine, Gentoo soon and probably Slackware. I have Arch in a virtual machine.

So is this the... [link to youtu.be]

For the internet? and freedom as such as we know it. hm...
Their plans are going ahead...
But I am sorry it will not work. We already won. This is our destiny. We will defeat the darkness. We will evolve. We will get out of this mess of tyranny. From darkness to Light.

Namaste

I'm to the thinking that the internet is dependant on telecommunications companies for the infrstructure (cables and shit) and the information is stored on "servers" or computer banks, these maintained by someone somewhere turning a profit. Even the information on this site is based somewhere.

A separate internet would still be vunerable to all the same things. A simple power cut would take out at least 95% of people. And with infrstructure, it all can still be tapped as normal.

The internet is useless, who cares if they shut it down, seriously, back to lan house parties.

This is a .gov letter so it is not copyrighted:

mith: Critics Continue to Spread Lies about SOPA

Washington, D.C. – Chairman Smith responded today to a letter that appeared in several newspapers from founders of Internet companies like Google, Twitter, and eBay regarding criticisms of the Stop Online Piracy Act. Many of the claims in the letter are erroneous and simply restate concerns that were actually addressed by the manager’s amendment released on Monday.

Chairman Smith: “It’s disappointing that some critics of the Stop Online Piracy Act do not understand what the bill actually does. The manager’s amendment introduced earlier this week narrows the scope of the bill to ensure that it only applies to foreign rogue websites. The bill defines rogue sites as foreign websites primarily dedicated to the sale and distribution of illegal or infringing material or foreign websites that market themselves as websites primarily dedicated to illegal or infringing activity. Lawful companies and websites like Google, Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook have nothing to worry about under this bill.

“Unfortunately, that has not stopped some of the bill’s critics from spreading lies about the legislation in an attempt to stall efforts by Congress to combat foreign rogue websites. Companies like Google have made billions by working with and promoting foreign rogue websites so they have a vested interest in preventing Congress from stopping rogue sites.

“In August, Google paid half a billion dollars to settle a criminal case because of the search engine giant’s active promotion of foreign rogue pharmacies that sold counterfeit and illegal drugs to U.S. patients. Their opposition to this legislation is self-serving since they profit from doing business with rogue sites that steal and sell America’s intellectual property.

“American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs to the U.S. economy and account for more than 60 percent of U.S. exports. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while some of America’s most profitable and productive industries are under attack.”

Background information on the Stop Online Piracy Act:

The Stop Online Piracy Act targets foreign web sites that steal and sell America’s intellectual property and keep the profits for themselves. The manager’s amendment, introduced on Monday, addresses technical concerns with the first draft of the bill and is the result of conservations with additional stakeholders like Facebook and Microsoft. The bill takes legitimate concerns into consideration, while still providing strong tools to fight foreign rogue sites. The manager’s amendment improves the legislation, increases industry support, and ensures the protection of American innovation and jobs.

Specifically, the manager’s amendment: >

Clarifies that provisions of the bill apply only to foreign rogue websites.

Removes language that would have required redirection when users try to access an unlawful site.

Includes a savings clause that disallows a court from issuing an order that would harm DNS.

Makes sure that service providers have the ability to determine the best method to ensure compliance and prohibits courts from imposing any additional obligations on service providers.

Commissions an inter-agency expert study on any impact of the bill’s remedies on the DNS.

Makes clear that in an action by the Attorney General, service providers will not be required to block subdomains.

Narrows definitions in the bill.

Narrows the definition of rogue websites dedicated to illegal or infringing activity to ensure that monitoring is not required.

Narrows the definition of search engines to clarify that only services that operate primarily as search engines are covered, not search functions on other services or services powered by third parties.

Narrows the definition of payment processors to ensure that banks and credit unions are not included as such.

Narrows the definition of advertising networks to clarify that the bill covers entities directly involved in serving ads to foreign rogue websites.

Removes the “voluntary notice” section for rights holders. This means rights holders are no longer required to provide notice to payment processors and advertising networks as a precondition to seeking judicial relief. Victims of IP theft will continue to use current voluntary market-based systems to address counterfeiting and piracy. The bill maintains immunity for financial institutions and online ad service providers.


[link to judiciary.house.gov]

I've used freenet before. It takes a bit of getting used to, and it hasn't been as fleshed out as it will probably end up being, but (speaking of "flesh") it is also kind of a dirty hub for kiddie pr0n. I'd be careful about some of the stuff you download off it, and you HAVE to download to be able to view any pages on freenet at all...in fact, that's the way it works, you down,load the whole site onto your hard drive in a single burst transfer and then browse the site (and possibly all the sites linked to that site depending on how you tweak the software) offline.

But it isn't *looking* at kiddie pr0n on the intarwebz that'll get you busted...It's having the shit on your hard drive that gets you on the evening news.

So, you must browse...but browse wisely. For while the true 'net will bring you freedom, the false one will take it from you.

i have never had a copy of windows on my shit, i started out with unix and then linux, i know the perils of running windows, they are vast

I disagree. I think Web 2.0 is useless, and most of the pre-existing Web 1.0.

I miss the days when people had their own personal GeoSite, or Tripod, or AngelFire. I remember looking up Starfox fan fiction on so many of those.

But those same thing quirky, personal things still exist on Freenet.

Said on the internet by a Canadian gamer. Hoser.

ive been at it since commadore 64, never stopped, never backed down

if said proposal goes through there will be a global retaliation the likes you have never dreamed of before. and no im not talking about protesters =P

I believe it was 12 universities and it was called "Arpanet"

Yeah, the whole copyright and freedom stuff. Censorship. What's the story with this site? Dare I ask the limits of lunacy allowed? lol.

Soooo...what are we going to do?

First we wait and see before jumping to any conclusions.

dont worry , the situation will be taken care of

Ya you wait in Belgium...lol

What are you waiting for?? Is this like a new site or something? What do we get?

BECAUSE ALL POWER COMES FROM THE PEOPLE.........ME. I am ultimately the government and I/We paid for that "government" lab you silly TWIT.

YOU, whoever YOU are, are incorrect!

"A group of researchers and scientists at the newly formed Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) invented the Internet in the United States during the late 1950s to 70s after the former Soviet Union launched Sputnik. Realizing that the United States had suffered a great technological blow by allowing the USSR to hold the first successful satellite launch, ARPA set out to create a brand new technology unlike anything that had ever been done before and the Internet was the result of their hard work.

Although there were many people working for ARPA on the Internet project, there are five individuals who can really be credited with actually creating the Internet. Among them was J. C. R. Licklider, the head of the Information Processing Technology Office at ARPA. In his position, he thought up the idea of the Internet as a way of potentially unifying humans around the United States (and the world) through a universal network.


Because Licklider’s previous experience was not in actual computer programming, however, he had to recruit others in order to help create the Internet for ARPA. The obvious choice was Lawrence Roberts. Roberts went on to lead the team, which would eventually develop ARPANET (the early precursor to the Internet) in 1967. He was the scientist to finally utilize the proposed method of packet switching that Leonard Kleinrock first created. The Internet still uses packet switching as its primary way of transferring data.

After several years of work, a computer at the University of California, Los Angeles became the first to connect to the Internet. In time, three more computers would be connected to the Internet in 1969, leading to the start of the Internet revolution.

Despite the massive success that Lawrence Roberts had while working at ARPA, he promptly quit his position in 1973 in order to form the world’s first commercial network, known at that time as Telenet. However, he assigned Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf to continue working on the Internet at ARPA. Together, Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf worked to modify the original method of packet switching that Roberts and Kleinrock pioneered and eventually created what is now known as the TCP/IP protocols. It was at this point that ARPANET was finally changed to the more easily pronounced Internet."

[link to www.tech-faq.com]

ARPA morphed into the US GOVERNMENT funded AGENCY called DARPA!

I think I have heard of this Arpanet but not much and Arpanet eh? Funny that it is an Anagram? of A PARENT.

lol

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Oh noes, the interwebs!

Oh look, a wikipedia warrior.

Arpanet != the internet. It is it's precursor.

READ: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

As i've said before, it was a collaborative project. Always has been, it could NEVER have become what it is if it hadn't.

ARPANET was the case study from which the internet was born.

-Kevin

hm and DARPA is also an Anagram of PRADA and who wears? um...hm..?lost my train of thought there? nvm then? hm...heh

Nevermind me and my wild thoughts... carry on.