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Killing the Bill of Rights on Its Anniversary---Watch it Live online NOW!

 
the death of my republic
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I am watching the legal death of my beloved Republic. I think I am going to vomit.
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86 to 13, and the speaker was saying to reconsider the bill... does that mean its still not voted in they are just reconsidering it?
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No. It is going to Obama's desk now. It passed.


"The Senate is set to take the final vote on the bill's conference report at 4:00 pm (ET). The House passed the conference report Wednesday evening as the President removed his objections on provisions relating to detention of terrorism suspects. After the Senate passes it, it will head to the President's desk to be signed into law."

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86 to 13, and the speaker was saying to reconsider the bill... does that mean its still not voted in they are just reconsidering it?
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No. It is going to Obama's desk now. It passed.


"The Senate is set to take the final vote on the bill's conference report at 4:00 pm (ET). The House passed the conference report Wednesday evening as the President removed his objections on provisions relating to detention of terrorism suspects. After the Senate passes it, it will head to the President's desk to be signed into law."

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! I'm moving.
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4th


“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



5th

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



6th


"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."
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8th


"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Pretty much all done now.

Guess we will have to see what plays out within the next couple of weeks..It's about to get real folks!!
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Pretty much all done now.

Guess we will have to see what plays out within the next couple of weeks..It's about to get real folks!!
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12/15/2011 04:39 PM
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who does this apply to? all US citizens or just immigrants?
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I am watching the legal death of my beloved Republic. I think I am going to vomit.
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this is not legal
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86 to 13, and the speaker was saying to reconsider the bill... does that mean its still not voted in they are just reconsidering it?
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No. It is going to Obama's desk now. It passed.


"The Senate is set to take the final vote on the bill's conference report at 4:00 pm (ET). The House passed the conference report Wednesday evening as the President removed his objections on provisions relating to detention of terrorism suspects. After the Senate passes it, it will head to the President's desk to be signed into law."

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I am Marduk. I come to you to tell you that I have been where your Dark Cabal is this night! Because of this, I know what they are feeling. Their Dark Plans have become their Misdeeds in this reality. The law which they are enacting to constrain the People in ever more stringent ways will be their downfall as it was mine many eons ago. The repression that has befallen many countries on your world, has come to the doorstep of yours. (USA)

As the people wake up to the outrageous deeds that are being perpetrated on this "Land of the Free" there will be a great outcry to finally take back your nation from those who would Enslave you! Those who have sworn an oath to Defend your Constitution with their bodies will Do Just That! These courageous men and women will stand with you when the time is right.

Those who scheme and plan the enslavement of the world's people will quickly find themselves on their rumps wondering what happened....and so fast!!! The Sleeping Lion has Awakened! There are some who are tasked with making the Changes that will ease the pain of the many who will have a little shock if they dally too long.

Spread the word far and wide! Stay in Peace and be Courageous! Fear Has No Place In This Work for which you were born! You are a Being of Light! Darkness is displaced by Light!

Feel compassion for your brothers and sisters who are attempting to completely Enslave you! Be a Beacon of Love and of Light to those around you and Shine that Light to the darkest corners of your world! THIS IS WHY YOU CAME HERE AT THIS TIME! We, of the Galactic Federation of Light are with you Now!!! Courage Now my Dear Friends!
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Sorry for the dumb question, but this can affect other countries?

I just guess this can get very worse.
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12/15/2011 04:42 PM
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Can someone challenge it at Supreme court? Doesn't it go against US Constitution?
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4th


“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”
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5th

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



6th


"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]




8th


"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: Mister Obvious


And just who is left to defend those words? The courts? They only just upheld the 1st and 2nd ammendments by 1 vote the last two time they were issues before the supreme court. 1 vote. 1 person away from disolution of basic civil rights that have stood for over two centuries.

We're done. It's over. There is no federal government left in Washington DC that I recognize as legitimate. We live in a lawless land of an unconstrained and absusive tyranny. At this rate, there wont even be any elections next November.

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I am watching the legal death of my beloved Republic. I think I am going to vomit.
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this is not legal
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legal in the sense of the functioning of the executive branch- the spirited death has been happening- in other words, its official, we are subjects and not citizens
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I downloaded the whole bill, what sections does it talk about the american people, illegal search and seizures? It's 903 fucking pages, how can anyone know exactly whats in that thing..... wtf is wrong with our government..
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who does this apply to? all US citizens or just immigrants?
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'US Person' which is a far more broad definition than 'US Citizen'

(i) “United States person” means a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in section 1101 (a)(20) of title 8), an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power, as defined in subsection (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this section.

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who does this apply to? all US citizens or just immigrants?
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All citizens
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who does this apply to? all US citizens or just immigrants?
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'US Person' which is a far more broad definition than 'US Citizen'

(i) “United States person” means a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in section 1101 (a)(20) of title 8), an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power, as defined in subsection (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this section.

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wow
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Who are these 70yr olds talking on issues regarding DNS servers? I watched the debate and it was horrible, I don't think they are even properly educated on the subject matter.
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I downloaded the whole bill, what sections does it talk about the american people, illegal search and seizures? It's 903 fucking pages, how can anyone know exactly whats in that thing..... wtf is wrong with our government..
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This is likely done on purpose so we wouldn't be bothered to waste time and read the whole thing.
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Somebody...ANYBODY in this thread...tell me just one way...JUST ONE...how this will effect your day to day life?

I bet not a single one of you can answer that question.

I'll be waiting.
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A dumbass.

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I downloaded the whole bill, what sections does it talk about the american people, illegal search and seizures? It's 903 fucking pages, how can anyone know exactly whats in that thing..... wtf is wrong with our government..
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There have been several thread on it already. I don't remember what exact page. Just do a search. I'm just gonna log off, go have a beer, and morn my Republic's passing alone.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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remember, if they come for you you probably wont come back...
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The Arab Spring otherwise known as the Arab Awakening, is a revolutionary wave of demonstrations and protests occurring in the Arab world that began on Saturday, 18 December 2010. To date, there have been revolutions in Tunisia[2] and Egypt;[3] a civil war in Libya resulting in the fall of its government;[4] civil uprisings in Bahrain,[5] Syria,[6] and Yemen, the latter resulting in the resignation of the Yemeni prime minister;[7] major protests in Algeria,[8] Iraq,[9] Jordan,[10] Kuwait,[11] Morocco,[12] and Oman;[13] and minor protests in Lebanon,[14] Mauritania, Saudi Arabia,[15] Sudan,[16] and Western Sahara.[17] Clashes at the borders of Israel in May 2011 and the Palestine 194 movement are also inspired by the regional Arab Spring.


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Congress no longer recognizes my rights as directed by the constitution from which their authority is derived. Therefore, I no longer recognize the authority of congress.

It's official. They have gone completely rouge. We have no (lawful) federal government now. We have tyranny.
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Oh...and by the way, your thread title is WAY off and is misleading sensationalist garbage.

Still waiting.
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Just in time for all the troops returning.
They are now jobless and need something to do.
Coincidence? I think not.
SOPA & NDAA.
Welcome to the New World Order booster pack.
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Oh...and by the way, your thread title is WAY off and is misleading sensationalist garbage.

Still waiting.
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