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Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?

 
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Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?




What do you guys think after watching this 4 min documentary?







The Albanian resistance in Albania between 1443 and 1468 led by George Kastrioti (Skanderbeg) , an Albanian noble and a former member of the Ottoman ruling elite, prevented the Ottoman expansion into the Italian peninsula. Skanderbeg had united the Albanian Principalities in a fight against the Empire in the League of Lezhë in 1444. Mehmed II couldn't subjugate Albania and Skanderbeg while the latter was alive, even though twice (1466 and 1467) he led the Ottoman armies himself against Krujë. After death of Skanderbeg in 1468, Albanians couldn't find a leader to replace him and Mehmed II eventually conquered Krujë and Albania on 1478.

After the successful victory by the Albanians, the Ottoman Empire did not have the strength to attack Western Europe, mainly Italy, for Rome, as the Ottomans lost most of their power against the Albanians.

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people, where art thou? no comment about this great time in history? that was possible one of the most important?????????
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no, Albanians are pieces of shit and it is too bad they were not all killed off long ago.
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hahahha bro why are u living in denial? if it wasnt for the albanians, the ottoman would have taken rome, and youd be different today and the world would be a different story.


so a thank you would be nice no? :)
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no, Albanians are pieces of shit and it is too bad they were not all killed off long ago.
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I sort of agree with that.
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Obviously the good albanians must have been destroyed in this defense because now the albanians are sided with the ottomans.

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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
I can see this Scanderbeg fella is a national hero, but really only an Albanian would claim he saved Europe. The Ottomans didnt need to defeat the Albanian region to reach Italy, they would just drive up though the old FYR region.
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The world needs to know the sacrafice albanians made for christianity. Just watch the documentary. imagine how overwhelmned rome would of been if the ottomans took a hold of it. But NO!, we saved christianity..

a nod would be appreciated from those 2 posters above..

and today:

muslim albanians side with the turks, because after the fall of skenderbeg, albanians become leaders in the ottoman empire and were sometimes the leading figures for 400 years.. thats the muslim albanians..

the christian albanians:

alot are in italy (arbresh) they escaped during the ottoman invasion.

christian albanians hate turks and arabs.. very racist towards them.
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I can see this Scanderbeg fella is a national hero, but really only an Albanian would claim he saved Europe. The Ottomans didnt need to defeat the Albanian region to reach Italy, they would just drive up though the old FYR region.
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what? the FYR region? thats east of albania, how could that be strategic for the turks???

fact is, the only way the turks could of had a successful attack on rome would of been through albania, not east or north of it.
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I pray you die OP. I pray all Albanians die.
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I pray you die OP. I pray all Albanians die.
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wtf is your problem? thats all u can you u fuckin coward? bitch-made at its best.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox
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hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it..


i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
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Serbians were also defending Europe at the gates of Vienna.

Excuse do you know where the frontier was? In Serbian Krajina where Serbian men were lifetime soldiers defending Europe.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
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yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer.

its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
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Serbians were also defending Europe at the gates of Vienna.

Excuse do you know where the frontier was? In Serbian Krajina where Serbian men were lifetime soldiers defending Europe.
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bro, i know serbs faught too, im not denying that at all, i never under estimated the serb and hungarian struggle. kuddos to the serbs of that time...
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
I'll have a look at your stuff tomorrow, I've liked Albanians every since Eurovison '09

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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
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yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer.

its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number.
 Quoting: Albanian-1


The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox
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hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it..


i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity.
 Quoting: Albanian-1




It's a historical fact. He did also convert to islam.

Albanians, Serbians and Croatians are not Illiryans or ancient Greeks just because they mixed with them.

Albanians love to steel other people's religion, culture and history. Just like in Kosovo, the albanian muslims destroyed serbian-orthodox monasteries and now the albanian muslims want to falsify history as to make those serbian monasteries their own. Albanians try to destroy all Serbian presence and culture in muslim occupied Kosovo.
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You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243




yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer.

its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number.
 Quoting: Albanian-1


The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243


The albanian identity is a long long one. Our language can be traced to that of the palasgians, who were the people before the greeks.

Albanians have always had an identity no matter what, even under roman rule, and ottoman rule, we never deviated from albanian langugage, blood, and culture, truly a one of a kind..

so criticms like yours are uncalled for. Albania today is about 60 percent muslim if that, and the rest christian.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243




yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer.

its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number.
 Quoting: Albanian-1


The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243


The albanian identity is a long long one. Our language can be traced to that of the palasgians, who were the people before the greeks.

Albanians have always had an identity no matter what, even under roman rule, and ottoman rule, we never deviated from albanian langugage, blood, and culture, truly a one of a kind..

so criticms like yours are uncalled for. Albania today is about 60 percent muslim if that, and the rest christian.
 Quoting: Albanian-1


It's not criticism, it's a fact. Today albanians are different from illyrians, like it or not. You have turkish blood. You are different ethnically from caucasians. Deal with it.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox
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hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it..


i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity.
 Quoting: Albanian-1




It's a historical fact. He did also convert to islam.

Albanians, Serbians and Croatians are not Illiryans or ancient Greeks just because they mixed with them.

Albanians love to steel other people's religion, culture and history. Just like in Kosovo, the albanian muslims destroyed serbian-orthodox monasteries and now the albanian muslims want to falsify history as to make those serbian monasteries their own. Albanians try to destroy all Serbian presence and culture in muslim occupied Kosovo.

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yeah? you wanna go that far? how about this!!! you slavs migrated to europe in the 7th century. europe WAS NOT your home. you come from sibera, russia, its a fact, historical FACT, no denial..

that means slavs are visitors to europe, and the land u claim as serbia was illyrian(albanian) and u came and stole it with your huge numbers. As for Kosovo, it was known was DARDANIA by the albanians..

so i would sit quietly when it comes to land buddy. you stole our land because your not originally from europe..

capish? did i insult u? learn history, and know that albanians are one of the first in the european penisila, outdating germans, and italians, who came only later on.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
ok, I didn't realise it was so brief, most people here post really long stuff no-one watches, but that was quite short. Bit difficult for a non-European to comment, never heard of this guy, but yeah it's possibly very significant in staving off the precursor to Islam. Interesting!
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ok, I didn't realise it was so brief, most people here post really long stuff no-one watches, but that was quite short. Bit difficult for a non-European to comment, never heard of this guy, but yeah it's possibly very significant in staving off the precursor to Islam. Interesting!
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thanks my man. its brief and to the point. such a significant time in history!!

the identity of the albanian shall always be remembered through their warrior king; Skenderbeg!
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
yah, i'll keep it in mind, maybe there's something worth looking into.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
most albanians are moslems.
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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
most albanians are moslems.
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In reality; 99% of albanians are secular. Albania is home to jewish people, catholics, muslims etc, but yet somewhat believe in albanianism, or albanian nationalism.
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What do you guys think after watching this 4 min documentary?
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Vlad Tepe -- Vlad, the Impaler -- Vlad Dracul -- Vlad Dracula -- Dracula.

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Re: Did the Albanians save Christian Europe from an Ottoman Takever?
You cant compare vlad to skenderbeg and the albanians... vlad was defeated, skenderbeg was not!, his defeat was natural death...

vlad did resist the ottoman but he lost... albanians didnt lose, but when our general died, albanians couldnt find a hero with equal charisma and power, which led to our downfall
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