The Mayans and Comet Lovejoy??? | |
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ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] ^ GOTO that link, and click LASCO/C3 ^ Watch until it resets... is that not amazing!?!?! It looks like... an eagle flying around the sun, doesn't it?!? Last Edited by ItsYourFault on 12/16/2011 02:42 PM Sheeple gonna sheep |
PathfinderTango User ID: 1458408 United States 12/16/2011 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well first thing is it looks bigger than "they" say it is. 2nd: it survived it's swing so close to the sun? If it was the size of to football fields, I would have figured 2 million degrees would have melted it off? 3rd: It now looks like the sun has altered it's orbit..(at first it looked like it was leaping up into the sun, but now it looks like more of a straight path)? 4th: Sun Activity went to near zero. Plus no new photo's from nasa since 12:30 UTC? I'm going to keep an eye on this one. |
Dr. Rick User ID: 7047988 United States 12/16/2011 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well first thing is it looks bigger than "they" say it is. Quoting: PathfinderTango 2nd: it survived it's swing so close to the sun? If it was the size of to football fields, I would have figured 2 million degrees would have melted it off? 3rd: It now looks like the sun has altered it's orbit..(at first it looked like it was leaping up into the sun, but now it looks like more of a straight path)? 4th: Sun Activity went to near zero. Plus no new photo's from nasa since 12:30 UTC? I'm going to keep an eye on this one. DITTO.... Gotta watch this one.... |
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Anti-GLP Effect User ID: 6569151 Philippines 12/16/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] In 1695, three Franciscans headed to Tayasal accompanied by four Christian Maya singers. They were well received, and a number of the Itza consented to be baptized. The Itza King, however, refused to convert to Christianity or pledge loyalty to Spain; he said a time would come when this would be the proper thing to do but that time had not arrived. A force of 60 Spanish soldiers and Maya allies were sent to the Petén the following year, but were beaten back by fierce Itza attacks. Quoting: wikipediaThe command in Mérida decided that a major force was needed, and in 1697 sent out a force of 235 Spanish soldiers and tens of thousands of Xiu Maya, along with artillery and a large supply train of mules and men to cut a path through the jungle. They set up a fort on the shore of Lake Petén Itza across from Tayasal, and reconstructed a small warship on the lake which had been brought with them in pieces. On March 13, 1697, this force succeeded in conquering the Itza capital of Tayasal. The Spanish burned the Itza library of books "containing lies of the devil", and reported later that the city had so many idols that with almost the entire army set at work, it took from nine in the morning until half past five in the evening to break them all. Mesoamerica was not to see another independent native state for over a hundred years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7230393 Brazil 12/16/2011 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] In 1695, three Franciscans headed to Tayasal accompanied by four Christian Maya singers. They were well received, and a number of the Itza consented to be baptized. The Itza King, however, refused to convert to Christianity or pledge loyalty to Spain; he said a time would come when this would be the proper thing to do but that time had not arrived. A force of 60 Spanish soldiers and Maya allies were sent to the Petén the following year, but were beaten back by fierce Itza attacks. Quoting: wikipediaThe command in Mérida decided that a major force was needed, and in 1697 sent out a force of 235 Spanish soldiers and tens of thousands of Xiu Maya, along with artillery and a large supply train of mules and men to cut a path through the jungle. They set up a fort on the shore of Lake Petén Itza across from Tayasal, and reconstructed a small warship on the lake which had been brought with them in pieces. On March 13, 1697, this force succeeded in conquering the Itza capital of Tayasal. The Spanish burned the Itza library of books "containing lies of the devil", and reported later that the city had so many idols that with almost the entire army set at work, it took from nine in the morning until half past five in the evening to break them all. Mesoamerica was not to see another independent native state for over a hundred years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Cool... The last perihelion of comet Lovejoy was exactly in the year when the Mayan Itza kingdom was destroyed... Great... Thank you for making me shit my pants... |
ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] It has been updated since, and will probably be updated again. They did not anticipate its direction around the sun correctly, and from what i read, it was actually closer to 413 years. 377 and 319 are also numbers I have read. That link you provided was updated on the 14th... before it passed the sun Last Edited by ItsYourFault on 12/16/2011 03:21 PM Sheeple gonna sheep |
2012Portal 2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 519048 Netherlands 12/16/2011 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Quoting: ItsYourFault ^ GOTO that link, and click LASCO/C3 ^ Watch until it resets... is that not amazing!?!?! It looks like... an eagle flying around the sun, doesn't it?!? That was beautiful. Looks like the falcon is wheeling around the sun hurling towards us! It survived the SUN ! From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
Anti-GLP Effect User ID: 6569151 Philippines 12/16/2011 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] It has been updated since, and will probably be updated again. They did not anticipate its direction around the sun correctly, and from what i read, it was actually closer to 413 years. 377 and 319 are also numbers I have read. That link you provided was updated on the 14th... before it passed the sun Well I haven't seen any orbital elements of this comet that changed the period from 314 years to anything else. You have any link to prove your claim? Wikipedia still lists the period as 314 years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by The Opened Scroll on 12/16/2011 03:30 PM So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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2012Portal 2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 519048 Netherlands 12/16/2011 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] In 1695, three Franciscans headed to Tayasal accompanied by four Christian Maya singers. They were well received, and a number of the Itza consented to be baptized. The Itza King, however, refused to convert to Christianity or pledge loyalty to Spain; he said a time would come when this would be the proper thing to do but that time had not arrived. A force of 60 Spanish soldiers and Maya allies were sent to the Petén the following year, but were beaten back by fierce Itza attacks. Quoting: wikipediaThe command in Mérida decided that a major force was needed, and in 1697 sent out a force of 235 Spanish soldiers and tens of thousands of Xiu Maya, along with artillery and a large supply train of mules and men to cut a path through the jungle. They set up a fort on the shore of Lake Petén Itza across from Tayasal, and reconstructed a small warship on the lake which had been brought with them in pieces. On March 13, 1697, this force succeeded in conquering the Itza capital of Tayasal. The Spanish burned the Itza library of books "containing lies of the devil", and reported later that the city had so many idols that with almost the entire army set at work, it took from nine in the morning until half past five in the evening to break them all. Mesoamerica was not to see another independent native state for over a hundred years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Tayasal, capital of the Itza Maya in the Petén Basin, the last independent Maya polity, is conquered by Spain. From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
2012Portal 2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 519048 Netherlands 12/16/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Comet Lovejoys estimated orbit has been changed several times since its discovery in late November this year. Original models suggested an orbit near 300 years. Quoting: ItsYourFault Currently, on jpl database, they estimate its orbit to be much longer, near 400 years. So, how long is its orbit exactly?? The updated information suggests the original orbit models were incorrect, so it would be safe to assume an orbit near 400 years is more accurate, although not exact. 400 years = 146,000 days 1 Bak'tun = 144,000 days Interesting to say the least. Thoughts? Coincidence maybe? Just like the comets name is a coincidence, LOVE JOY From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
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ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] It has been updated since, and will probably be updated again. They did not anticipate its direction around the sun correctly, and from what i read, it was actually closer to 413 years. 377 and 319 are also numbers I have read. That link you provided was updated on the 14th... before it passed the sun Well I haven't seen any orbital elements of this comet that changed the period from 314 years to anything else. You have any link to prove your claim? Wikipedia still lists the period as 314 years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Google 'comet lovejoy orbit'. You can find the different orbits listed in various blogs, which are from varying dates, all using jpl data on different days. Sheeple gonna sheep |
Anti-GLP Effect User ID: 6569151 Philippines 12/16/2011 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] In 1695, three Franciscans headed to Tayasal accompanied by four Christian Maya singers. They were well received, and a number of the Itza consented to be baptized. The Itza King, however, refused to convert to Christianity or pledge loyalty to Spain; he said a time would come when this would be the proper thing to do but that time had not arrived. A force of 60 Spanish soldiers and Maya allies were sent to the Petén the following year, but were beaten back by fierce Itza attacks. Quoting: wikipediaThe command in Mérida decided that a major force was needed, and in 1697 sent out a force of 235 Spanish soldiers and tens of thousands of Xiu Maya, along with artillery and a large supply train of mules and men to cut a path through the jungle. They set up a fort on the shore of Lake Petén Itza across from Tayasal, and reconstructed a small warship on the lake which had been brought with them in pieces. On March 13, 1697, this force succeeded in conquering the Itza capital of Tayasal. The Spanish burned the Itza library of books "containing lies of the devil", and reported later that the city had so many idols that with almost the entire army set at work, it took from nine in the morning until half past five in the evening to break them all. Mesoamerica was not to see another independent native state for over a hundred years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Cool... The last perihelion of comet Lovejoy was exactly in the year when the Mayan Itza kingdom was destroyed... Great... Thank you for making me shit my pants... So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anti-GLP Effect User ID: 6569151 Philippines 12/16/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The period of comet Lovejoy is listed as 314.17 years, which means its last perihelion prior to yesterday was in 1697. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] It has been updated since, and will probably be updated again. They did not anticipate its direction around the sun correctly, and from what i read, it was actually closer to 413 years. 377 and 319 are also numbers I have read. That link you provided was updated on the 14th... before it passed the sun Well I haven't seen any orbital elements of this comet that changed the period from 314 years to anything else. You have any link to prove your claim? Wikipedia still lists the period as 314 years. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Google 'comet lovejoy orbit'. You can find the different orbits listed in various blogs, which are from varying dates, all using jpl data on different days. Is it too hard for you to provide one link? I have googled and so far, the orbital period I got is still 314 years. So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it too hard for you to provide one link? I have googled and so far, the orbital period I got is still 314 years. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect This is probably its very first orbital journey “all by itself” since it was liberated from its parent. The JPL database shows that the comet circles the sun every 413 years give or take 133 years. In other words the exact orbit is still a bit fuzzy. More observations will be needed to nail it with precision. [link to astrobob.areavoices.com] [link to tech.groups.yahoo.com] ***** There is also talk that this comet is just a small piece of a comet that split many years ago, following along the orbit with all the other pieces that were part of this once larger 'parent comet'. What other larger pieces might there be?? Maybe it isn't a comet afterall?? At the size it was estimated, and the relative closeness to the sun, it shouldn't be around anymore realistically. It was only discovered November 27th 2011, they are still workin on it Last Edited by ItsYourFault on 12/16/2011 03:58 PM Sheeple gonna sheep |
ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, where is Lovejoy right now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7232644 Any images of the comet AFTER the passed by the Sun? Theres a link above that shows the comet after its passing the sun. Looks awesome EDIT: spelling Last Edited by ItsYourFault on 12/16/2011 03:59 PM Sheeple gonna sheep |
ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suns activity still affected [link to www.solarham.com] - xrays [link to www.solarham.com] - all Last Edited by ItsYourFault on 12/16/2011 04:03 PM Sheeple gonna sheep |
PathfinderTango User ID: 1458408 United States 12/16/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was just looking at the most current SOHO movies of Lovejoy on C3. [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov] This thing went around the sun like a bat out of hell and survived... now it's movement has almost halted? Maybe our sun has not had enough of Lovejoy yet? "me love you long time" said the sun. Last Edited by PathfinderTango on 12/16/2011 05:34 PM |
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ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: PathfinderTango It's lookin good!! [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Sheeple gonna sheep |
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ItsYourFault (OP) User ID: 6343235 Canada 12/16/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Sun is still very calm after seing the great cross of Love and Joy... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7239654 or, the eagle [link to images.wjla.com] Sheeple gonna sheep |
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