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According to FOIA, Eric Holder provided Timothy McVeigh with explosives

 
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Alternative link?

[link to patriotsunion.ning.com]
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yup..that's the same article

the original American Free Press article was dated mid November of this year and apparently was widely circulated on the Internet only in the past few days from what I can tell..

seems sort of unusual that it would take that long to make the 'rounds'

judging from the comments on your link they are trying to figure out if the story is true or not

personally it wouldn't surprise me but maybe they retracted the article because there wasn't enough evidence or they didn't have access to the FOIC documents?

I had read the Breibart story previously so I felt that was enough precedent to start a thread with

after all..the Trentadue case has been going on for many years

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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First link not working, and second link from BreitBart?

Really clutching at straws there.

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so from what I have heard the fertilizer bombs should create ammonia gas which causes people to get sick, which did not happen

McVeigh never had a bomb. he was used as an agent provocateur, specifically targeting Bill Cooper who rejected his ovetures

the explosion was a controlled demolition. lots of eye witness accounts of bomb squads in the building the day before rigging it up

the truck bomb is just a cover story
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Yep. There were even explosions inside the building before the truck blew up.

LOL
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because THE MAJORITY OF GOVERNMENT is a cellularised 'need to know' game, all in Congress know that any FIOA request will potentially ONLY unveil 'plots to confound and obfuscate' THE TRUTH from You The People.

I mean, "When there's SO MUCH CHAFF, how can you tell if it's not wheat, already?"

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First link not working, and second link from BreitBart?

Really clutching at straws there.

bsflag
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the Trentadue case seems to be well documented..

from the wikipedia entry:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[...]Kenneth (Trentadue) was apprehended on June 10, 1995, nearly two months after the Oklahoma City bombing, while crossing the border from Mexico into California, when police officers ran his driver's license and discovered that he was wanted for violating his parole. On August 18, Trentadue was transferred to the Department of Justice's Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City. According to prison records, three days later, at 3:02 a.m., the morning of August 21, 1995, Kenneth was found in his cell suspended from a noose made out of his bed sheets, dead.

Oklahoma County District Attorney Bob Macy and federal officials determined that Trentadue had committed suicide by hanging himself. Officials tried to obtain the permission of Trentadue's family to cremate the body at the government's expense--an unprecedented move--but the family declined, since they found the claims of suicide suspicious. The government then performed an autopsy on Trentadue, but did not notify the family.

When the family received the body from the prison authorities, it was covered in wounds, cuts, and bruises, leading the family to believe Trentadue had been tortured and beaten before his death. Trentadue had sustained three heavy blows to the head, and his throat had been cut; prison authorities claimed the wounds were self-inflicted. The day after Trentadue's death, Kevin Rowland, the chief examiner of the Oklahoma state medical examiner filed a complaint with the FBI reporting irregularities in the investigation of Trentadue's death: the coroner was at first not permitted into the cell where Trentadue had died, and the cell itself was washed out before any investigation could be performed. The complaint went on to state that, although the exact cause of death could not be determined, the claim that Trentadue had committed suicide was not consistent with the medical examiner's findings, and Trentadue appeared to have been tortured. The FBI paperwork from the agent who received the medical examiner's call reads "murder" and "believes that foul play is suspect[ed] in this matter."

A Board of Inquiry was convened by the Bureau of Prisons. The attorney in charge of the investigation was ordered to treat his findings as "attorney work product", a legal distinction that would protect information uncovered in his investigation from any potential lawsuit or Freedom of Information Act inquiries.

Kenneth's brother Jesse began gathering information on his brother's death, still with no knowledge of a possible connection to the Oklahoma City bombing case. After being contacted by David Hammer, a convicted murderer who had struck up a friendship with Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh on death row, and had read about the Trentadue case in the newspapers, Jesse and others ultimately came to believe that Kenneth had been mistakenly identified by authorities as an accomplice in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. It is supposed that Trentadue was interrogated to make him talk, and died during the interrogation. After being shown a picture of Kenneth Trentadue, Timothy McVeigh is reported to have said, "Now I know why Trentadue was killed, because they thought he was Richard Guthrie."

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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Hold up hold hold up. Where is the FOIA document. That is ALLL we need to see.

I don't see it. If you are going to lay down some serious claims u better Put all your eggs in public. ALL of them.

I don't see any FOIA documents.
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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The case of explosives was, however, recovered by another law enforcement agency and was later determined to have the incriminating fingerprints of two FBI agents, as well as fingerprints of McVeigh and Nichols.

Shortly after the bombing, Kenneth Trentadue, a government informant, was murdered in his prison cell. His family has been pursuing legal action against the federal government ever since.

In 2001, in a bid to avoid a full release of documents, the Federal Bureau of Prisons paid a settlement of $1.1 million to several members of Trentadue’s family, but his brother refused to drop the investigation and filed a FOIA lawsuit for the missing documents. That suit has been ongoing in the Salt Lake City federal courthouse.
Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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The case of explosives was, however, recovered by another law enforcement agency and was later determined to have the incriminating fingerprints of two FBI agents, as well as fingerprints of McVeigh and Nichols.

Shortly after the bombing, Kenneth Trentadue, a government informant, was murdered in his prison cell. His family has been pursuing legal action against the federal government ever since.

In 2001, in a bid to avoid a full release of documents, the Federal Bureau of Prisons paid a settlement of $1.1 million to several members of Trentadue’s family, but his brother refused to drop the investigation and filed a FOIA lawsuit for the missing documents. That suit has been ongoing in the Salt Lake City federal courthouse.
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thanks for that. I added it to the op..went looking for it after it came up missing and couldn't find the cache button

I thought they did away with cache(s) but figured it out finally after you posted thumbs

now I'm trying to decide whether or not to leave it in the original post scratching

Last Edited by RTS REDUX on 12/19/2011 07:54 AM
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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This is unbelievable. No wonder they push garbage like Romney and Newt to be the front runners for the Republican party. They can't afford to have a newbie in office like Palin, Bachmann or Cain because they know real conservatives will not stand for this and mostly likely start investigations into these crimes and send a lot of people to prison.

Our country has become a piss pool of criminals.
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



The link to coachisright is not working.
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


The link to coachisright is not working.
 Quoting: deadpammy


wtf??

btw..I don't see a cache for that article
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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good post OP - my belief is the Ok City FBI was building a case on Larry King Lost Boys disgrace and thus had to go, taking employees and evidence with it.

Typical.
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BINGO! My thoughts exactly.
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


The link to coachisright is not working.
 Quoting: deadpammy


wtf??

btw..I don't see a cache for that article
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


I don't see a cache but you can still read the article if you google a sentence or two then hover over the column on the right then click on it
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



I got it :) thanks!

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"The Facade" by Michael S. Heiser . . . most people don't want the truth... they're looking for answers to confirm their prejudices.
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Good catch OP, need some patriot Americans to make a citizens arrest for the criminals in the WH.
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PATCON

In March 1991, the FBI extended its investigation of the TRM into a undercover sting code-named "PATCON."

Details of the PATCON operation were included in a routine request for re-authorization of the TRM investigation. The January 1992 memo from San Antonio-based FBI Agent Daniel Coulson is addressed to Assistant FBI Director Larry Potts.

"During March 1991, a Group 1 Undercover Operation titled PATCON was approved, utilizing three undercover agents, in order to prevent the murder of (two FBI) agents," Coulson wrote, referring to the threat cited above.

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Hmmm...
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



The link to coachisright is not working.
 Quoting: deadpammy


it's just the URL got messed up

go to the page then look in the right sidebar under 'popular posts' it's the #1 story

or look for the characters ' %85 ' in the URL and change this to '...' (without quotes)
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This I predict is a very scary development. Not that Holder Will have to step down or be prosecuted. But because he won't! We truly do live in 1936 NAZI Germany. Say good night Dick! sfan
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this story was just posted about an hour ago according to Google

December 19th, 2011

Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”

Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots

more @ [link to www.coachisright.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



The link to coachisright is not working.
 Quoting: deadpammy


it's just the URL got messed up

go to the page then look in the right sidebar under 'popular posts' it's the #1 story

or look for the characters ' %85 ' in the URL and change this to '...' (without quotes)
 Quoting: cremefraiche


yup..that works

thanks..

added those instructions to the op
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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Who was the president at the time of th ok. city bombings and the waco seige? Just wondering.
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Who was the president at the time of th ok. city bombings and the waco seige? Just wondering.
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Clinton, I believe...
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He needs to be in Jail and tried for treason and murder.
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He claims his critics are picking on him because he's black

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That's what all the top criminals say these days.

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How right you are!
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With the filth most of them are mired in, it really doesn't matter what color they are, as it is a big smoking pile of shite...




So now the actual terrorists are being tied directly to trying to take over...hmmm what is that called...hmmm...my sharp as a tack memory fails me...

time for the theater players to exit stage left or right...the green screen and the blue screen are about to turn into the red scream
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I anticipate that either A, Holder has heart attack or if this gets "leaked" and the MSM starts picking up on it, it's from the inside because he is quickly becoming a liability to the current administration.
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Holy freakin' cow! Wow. Stunning. So, "fast and furious" was not a new idea but a redux of a planned set up. These scum need to be arrested for treason, given a very short trial and sentenced not only that but for the deaths of all the people who died in the OK city bombing and the border agents who have died as a result of "fast and furious".
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