American Defends His Home Against 4 Armed Illegal Aliens | |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These kind of home invasions happen daily here in Phoenix. A lot of people have security doors, but a rock through the front window bypasses that. Quoting: Jefiner /I keep a shotgun in an umbrella rack. Haven't had to pull it out yet. One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been posted like 20 times, this crap doesn't happen in my country cause of gun control. DEAL WITH IT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175 Guess you didn't get the memo, huh Bruce? [link to www.google.com] One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Dr. Rick User ID: 7489842 United States 12/21/2011 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been posted like 20 times, this crap doesn't happen in my country cause of gun control. DEAL WITH IT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175 Gun control only affects people that follow laws. Criminals will still have them. You have like what, 40 million people in your country that are too cold to leave the house? One big forest with dangerous flying hockey pucks and igloos? LOLOLOLOL LMAO.... |
weegie User ID: 7403140 United Arab Emirates 12/21/2011 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been posted like 20 times, this crap doesn't happen in my country cause of gun control. DEAL WITH IT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175 No, it doesn't happen in your country because you aren't near the Mexican border. If we don't stop them, it WILL be happening in your country. They have gun control in Mexico, too...only the criminals have guns there. That's why the murder rate is so high. |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been posted like 20 times, this crap doesn't happen in my country cause of gun control. DEAL WITH IT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175 No, it doesn't happen in your country because you aren't near the Mexican border. If we don't stop them, it WILL be happening in your country. They have gun control in Mexico, too...only the criminals have guns there. That's why the murder rate is so high. THIS^^^^^^ One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6283418 United States 12/21/2011 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy needs to work on his aim a little, but that is a good call. He should have left the bodies in the lawn for easy identification. Having the guns handy is a good idea down there. The only problem I have with the whole thing is, he missed them. The ricochet into the neighbors house is not good, but accidents happen. Shoot the bastards and let the sheriff sort it out. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Target shooting does nearly nothing to prepare people for a real gun fight. His missing had nothing to do with not being a good aimer, he missed because he is not a good gun fighter. He missed because when people get shot at, they do not stand there like a paper target and let you line up your sights for a perfect shot. Gun fights are dynamic, motion filled events that is not replicated with "target practice". The reason most police and citizens miss in real gun fights is because the majority of American shooting, training and written material on the subject is utter and complete bullshit and a waist of time, money and ammo. This guy is probably a really good shot, his security camera system, the fact he was armed in his own home and the fact his shots on the windshield showed plenty of combat effective accuracy tell me was trained. His issue was improper training on what happens in a real gun fight, poor use of cover and on and on. He still kicked ass and did better than most would have. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1231003 United States 12/21/2011 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy needs to work on his aim a little, but that is a good call. He should have left the bodies in the lawn for easy identification. Having the guns handy is a good idea down there. The only problem I have with the whole thing is, he missed them. The ricochet into the neighbors house is not good, but accidents happen. Shoot the bastards and let the sheriff sort it out. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Target shooting does nearly nothing to prepare people for a real gun fight. His missing had nothing to do with not being a good aimer, he missed because he is not a good gun fighter. He missed because when people get shot at, they do not stand there like a paper target and let you line up your sights for a perfect shot. Gun fights are dynamic, motion filled events that is not replicated with "target practice". The reason most police and citizens miss in real gun fights is because the majority of American shooting, training and written material on the subject is utter and complete bullshit and a waist of time, money and ammo. This guy is probably a really good shot, his security camera system, the fact he was armed in his own home and the fact his shots on the windshield showed plenty of combat effective accuracy tell me was trained. His issue was improper training on what happens in a real gun fight, poor use of cover and on and on. He still kicked ass and did better than most would have. OK i hear your point but there was no way to determine if he was using cover or not, also were he was shooting from. further more your shooting skills diminish in a real world shooting by like 50 percent. this guy did what he had to do One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306067 United States 12/21/2011 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3459110 United States 12/21/2011 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These kind of home invasions happen daily here in Phoenix. A lot of people have security doors, but a rock through the front window bypasses that. Quoting: Jefiner /I keep a shotgun in an umbrella rack. Haven't had to pull it out yet. good idea about the shotgun in the umbrella rack but I'm just curious do a lot of people have an umbrella rack in Phoenix |
Oldenough User ID: 1306067 United States 12/21/2011 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "You will NOT 'rise to the occasion' like some movie or video game. You will FALL to your level of training, and I'm not talking about going out to the range and hitting a piece of paper. |
YoungPatriot User ID: 6380336 United States 12/21/2011 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been posted like 20 times, this crap doesn't happen in my country cause of gun control. DEAL WITH IT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175 These 4 upstanding young men are illegals. That means that they did not follow any laws to aquire those weapons that they had. Not to mention at least two of the guns I saw in the video, did not look all to legal themselves. Strict gun control would just have made it more likely that the homeowner would not have been armed, and when unarmed against 4 armed, well you do the math. Or is that controlled in cananda too? |
Missouri Foxtrotter User ID: 7129050 United States 12/21/2011 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6283418 United States 12/21/2011 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy needs to work on his aim a little, but that is a good call. He should have left the bodies in the lawn for easy identification. Having the guns handy is a good idea down there. The only problem I have with the whole thing is, he missed them. The ricochet into the neighbors house is not good, but accidents happen. Shoot the bastards and let the sheriff sort it out. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Target shooting does nearly nothing to prepare people for a real gun fight. His missing had nothing to do with not being a good aimer, he missed because he is not a good gun fighter. He missed because when people get shot at, they do not stand there like a paper target and let you line up your sights for a perfect shot. Gun fights are dynamic, motion filled events that is not replicated with "target practice". The reason most police and citizens miss in real gun fights is because the majority of American shooting, training and written material on the subject is utter and complete bullshit and a waist of time, money and ammo. This guy is probably a really good shot, his security camera system, the fact he was armed in his own home and the fact his shots on the windshield showed plenty of combat effective accuracy tell me was trained. His issue was improper training on what happens in a real gun fight, poor use of cover and on and on. He still kicked ass and did better than most would have. OK i hear your point but there was no way to determine if he was using cover or not, also were he was shooting from. further more your shooting skills diminish in a real world shooting by like 50 percent. this guy did what he had to do Near the end of the video, you can see him coming out into the open chasing the attackers, since one of them has an AR 15 rifle, that is a bad idea, since that gun can effectively return fire from 2 blocks down the road. Again, the reason the majority of shots in Domestic US shootings by police or citizens miss is not because "shooting skill diminish 50%". Its because the shooters skills for actual gun fights is only 50% as effective as they thought it was. Even if you are 100% effective at what you are training, if what you are training is not effective in actual combat, you will not perform well, that is the issue. Like I posted, he kicked ass, but the numbers don't lie. The majority of shots fired in the US MISS the intended target. That is a training issue and those numbers, by default, prove the training that is mainstream and accepted is effective less than 50% of the time in actual application. That is unacceptable to me, as a trainer, and my students who have been in gun fights are shooting at nearly a 90% shots to hits ratio. The numbers do not lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1231003 United States 12/21/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is fake news. Google Pima County Sheriff's Dept. They have a government agenda. Quoting: Missouri Foxtrotter Have fun, shills. fake news good one post truth or One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 475310 United Kingdom 12/21/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy needs to work on his aim a little, but that is a good call. He should have left the bodies in the lawn for easy identification. Having the guns handy is a good idea down there. The only problem I have with the whole thing is, he missed them. The ricochet into the neighbors house is not good, but accidents happen. Shoot the bastards and let the sheriff sort it out. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Target shooting does nearly nothing to prepare people for a real gun fight. His missing had nothing to do with not being a good aimer, he missed because he is not a good gun fighter. He missed because when people get shot at, they do not stand there like a paper target and let you line up your sights for a perfect shot. Gun fights are dynamic, motion filled events that is not replicated with "target practice". The reason most police and citizens miss in real gun fights is because the majority of American shooting, training and written material on the subject is utter and complete bullshit and a waist of time, money and ammo. This guy is probably a really good shot, his security camera system, the fact he was armed in his own home and the fact his shots on the windshield showed plenty of combat effective accuracy tell me was trained. His issue was improper training on what happens in a real gun fight, poor use of cover and on and on. He still kicked ass and did better than most would have. OK i hear your point but there was no way to determine if he was using cover or not, also were he was shooting from. further more your shooting skills diminish in a real world shooting by like 50 percent. this guy did what he had to do Near the end of the video, you can see him coming out into the open chasing the attackers, since one of them has an AR 15 rifle, that is a bad idea, since that gun can effectively return fire from 2 blocks down the road. Again, the reason the majority of shots in Domestic US shootings by police or citizens miss is not because "shooting skill diminish 50%". Its because the shooters skills for actual gun fights is only 50% as effective as they thought it was. Even if you are 100% effective at what you are training, if what you are training is not effective in actual combat, you will not perform well, that is the issue. Like I posted, he kicked ass, but the numbers don't lie. The majority of shots fired in the US MISS the intended target. That is a training issue and those numbers, by default, prove the training that is mainstream and accepted is effective less than 50% of the time in actual application. That is unacceptable to me, as a trainer, and my students who have been in gun fights are shooting at nearly a 90% shots to hits ratio. The numbers do not lie. never saw the home owner i see a cop coming into the picture on his radio. but anywho good points to consider. One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3702145 United States 12/21/2011 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These kind of home invasions happen daily here in Phoenix. A lot of people have security doors, but a rock through the front window bypasses that. Quoting: Jefiner /I keep a shotgun in an umbrella rack. Haven't had to pull it out yet. good idea about the shotgun in the umbrella rack but I'm just curious do a lot of people have an umbrella rack in Phoenix There will be a run on umbrella racks today, in Phoenix. |
indiandave User ID: 1507376 United States 12/21/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck to you. Further evidence that you NEED guns in America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 I'm glad I don't live somewhere where I feel the NEED to own a gun. and that's why you will be one of the first to be hauled off to the camps One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck to you. Further evidence that you NEED guns in America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 I'm glad I don't live somewhere where I feel the NEED to own a gun. I'd rather live in the "wild west" where there is an element of danger than live like sheep in a fucking nanny state like you do. One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7491445 Brazil 12/21/2011 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1231003 United States 12/21/2011 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Near the end of the video, you can see him coming out into the open chasing the attackers, since one of them has an AR 15 rifle, that is a bad idea, since that gun can effectively return fire from 2 blocks down the road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6283418 Only if the nut job holding it knows how to use it. or it is a real one and not an airsoft toy... After watch the video several times I am lead to believe that these four pussies were armed with toy guns or empties magazines based upon how quickly they ran away... Life imitates art... |
NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, of course NOBODY in the USA had his house invaded by white, US-born, robbers... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7491445 That NEVER happened... I see... One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
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NUTRAMAC (OP) User ID: 6701492 United States 12/21/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck to you. Further evidence that you NEED guns in America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 I'm glad I don't live somewhere where I feel the NEED to own a gun. I'd rather live in the "wild west" where there is an element of danger than live like sheep in a fucking nanny state like you do. Awww diddums. Touch a nerve did I? I hope you get shot you prick. One of the biggest tragedies of human civilization is the precedence of chemical therapy over nutrition. It's the substitution of artificial therapy over natural, of poisons over food, in which we are feeding people poisons trying to correct the reactions of starvation." Dr. Royal Lee, 1935 |
Canada?!!?! User ID: 6283418 United States 12/21/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck to you. Further evidence that you NEED guns in America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 I'm glad I don't live somewhere where I feel the NEED to own a gun. I'd rather live in the "wild west" where there is an element of danger than live like sheep in a fucking nanny state like you do. This! Gee, folks, life is dangerous, more laws and restrictions on self-protection will make it seem so much safer and warmer and fuzzier. And by the way, the Hells Angels were killing rival gang members in Canada during the 80s and 90s with rocket launchers and military explosives (no lie). The Canadian press does no like those stories getting out, but there is plenty of violence in Canada. And when having a gun is the same crime as having a rocket launcher, which will the bad guys choose to have? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7227327 United States 12/21/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, of course NOBODY in the USA had his house invaded by white, US-born, robbers... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7491445 That NEVER happened... I see... OH it happens but not as often per capita of the ethnic group. A bigger percentage of the illegal aliens do this compared to how many Illegals there are. That's why it highlited in the publics eye. Becuase if they didn't get in he wouldn't of got robbed in that situation. |