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I need ways to trick MY parents into thinking I swallowed a pill!

 
OneEyedWoman (OP)

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I am being forced to take prozac, or I am kicked out. I've tried hiding the pill in the pockets of my cheeks but they check everywhere.

I hate Prozac, it makes me feel icky and makes me all loud and numb.

I need to know if there are any other ways to trick them!

I finally tapered off it and now they are shoving it down my throat again.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


i would go into thier room at nite and stab the fuckers in thier sleep lol or crunch up a shitload of various pills and lace thier food with it like give your dad female hormones then wait a few months .. do it regularly and then see how they like it
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lmao I don't think thats gonna help my case.





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Your welcome. :)

The autoimmune disease is Rheumatoid Arthritis. I also have Fibromyalgia (which, from what my doc. says, many times starts because of the Rheumatoid Arthritis), bone spurs in my back and feet, Rheumatoid nodules in my right foot, bursitis, carpal tunnel, have one hip a bit higher than the other which causes a lot of lower back pain, and have a permanent knee injury due to a fall and have osteoarthritis in that knee. I'm a mess, lol! I have too many issues to work and I'm in pain a lot and on pretty strong pain killers. I have to stretch out 'cause sitting or standing for even a little while hurts and there aren't any jobs that will let you do that, lol. That's why I love my laptop, I can sprawl out on the couch and be on it. :)

I live with my husband and daughter.

I'm just not use to not working. I've thought about maybe starting a little business doing crafty stuff...like on Etsy or something. Don't know how much my hands can handle (I have a tough time just putting on bracelets or necklaces), but I'm surely gonna give it a try. I do have a lot more time to myself though and more time on the internet. :)
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


O
U
C
H
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll pray for you

You should do the arts and craft stuff!!!! Sounds like fun!!!!!!!!

or like write a book or something?
Something that just involes finger movement and lots of time to think.

Keep on hanging on, you'll find a passion hf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
OneEyedWoman (OP)

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Re: I need ways to trick MY parents into thinking I swallowed a pill!
I would say pretend to take it and act more erratic :P Pretend to commit suicide, seizures and all that jazz.

Then tell them your doing this to me and this pill is making me more depressed or w/e they think your suffering from. If your parents love you they wont have you taking that shit anymore.
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thats a definte last resort thing, but who knows it might have to be done. Ty hf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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your really cute you can come live with me =)
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O
U
C
H
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll pray for you

You should do the arts and craft stuff!!!! Sounds like fun!!!!!!!!

or like write a book or something?
Something that just involes finger movement and lots of time to think.

Keep on hanging on, you'll find a passion hf
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


Thank you! :) I'll pray things work out for you as well. hf

Oh, and dreaming is important, so I'm not sure what your dad's deal is with that. We all need to dream.

Check this out: Researchers discovered that people deprived from entering REM sleep, the dream phase of sleep, displayed symptoms of irritability and anxiety. In one dream study, researchers repeatedly woke up volunteers just before they entered the dream state of sleep throughout the night. The volunteers slept the same amount of time as they normally did; they just didn't dream. The next day these volunteers were disoriented, depressed, grouchy, and short-tempered. As the study continued, night after night, the subjects became more agitated. Researchers concluded that dreaming recharges the mind and revitalizes the body. They determined that dreaming is necessary.
[link to rihd.org]
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.

Due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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You are not wasted. It takes time to be where you want to be, and sometimes that place is not where you are supposed to be.

Some people reach it before others.

Perhaps so, I think I'm scared of who I am. I've always avoid those really reality altering drugs, such as acid.
I've heard you find out who you really are, and that scares the shit of me. Maybe because I think of myself as low.

Your right! The world is selfish, we eat for our OWN survival, we breathe the air for our own comfort, we drink, we bathe, we get therapy for our own benefit. Its a revolve around me world.

Great insight of memories. Humans do that, we tend to fancy the past more then we do the present. Even in good times I'll find myself seeping back down to the past in my mind.

I do have to rise above, and so do you.


Quit the self-loathing, you haven't done anything that would make the creator of us hate you. If he doesn't hate you, why should you?

Even if you are not religious, hate leads to no-where. Love is the only weapon against hate, against this world laced in it.

The media was taken love and distorted it, because they know how powerful love is. Love is an art, don't let them tear it apart.

Love yourself.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


I love myself, but I hate me too :)
I never question my abilities, I take silent pride in my capabilities, I have my doubts time and time again, but I feel I am like finely crafted paintbrush with no artist; endless potential.

I hate myself because I am an empathic being.
I literally feel like a cup overflowing with emotion, and I am running out of reservoirs to contain it all. I have no middle ground, I will never be normal, or just "okay". I bruise like a grape and the world is a pincushion.
Luckily, I'd rather receive pain than to give it.

I am religious, baptised catholic, as a toddler went to buddist temple, back to catholic church, teenage years renounced the roman catholic belief in lieu of christianity (baptist), and then as a young adult at 18 woke up to the fact that I was an existentialist. I see most religions as the same pillars holding up the same thing. Foods and how people eat it vary from culture to culture, as does language, so why can't prayer and god? A lot of religions share the same principal tenants.

Even if I have yet to get God,the gods/goddesses/flying spaghetti monster to hate me, it sucks to feel like that hate is justified... after all, I did say I had a problem with self loathing! :P

Regarding hallucinogens:
Once the door is open, don't ever expect to close the door.
You can damn well ignore it, but it will never close again.
Not trying to be foreboding or anything but it can be a life changer for sure. That said, there are plenty ways to get to where hallucinogens take you, psychoactives being merely one of many. Meditation, thought, prayer, all these things (some regard them to be all the same thing) can be a means to the end. The end being self awareness.

You sound like a mature and wonderful woman, you maintain a cheery attitude in spite of challenges you face which takes a lot of strength to do, and you are here on glp waking up, as they say, "those who know enough, know to learn".

Well, i think I'm going to burn this cd now, and try to learn some new shuffle steps in the garage while I still got it in me.
5a
Feel better take care, good luck god speed, and thanks for the pep talk, I hope both of us rise against and rise above.
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Wish I could offer some good advice here, but alas, I'm at a loss.

I like the idea of emptying the capsules and filling them with something harmless, but it's lying and I think you should try to talk with them first before you do anything over the top.

I don't like the idea of forced medication - especially anti-depressants and even more so at your age (there's a reason for those black box warnings).

A lot of times parents think it's the kid's problem, but more often than not, the kids are acting out what the parents refuse to see and address. I personally think it's normal to be depressed in your teenage years, especially in this day and age, with hormone fluctuating and the instant gratification sold to us on TV as "the way it's supposed to be".

Good luck hugs and let us know how it goes - you got a lot of people now keeping you in their hearts and prayers.

:prtyturt:
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Educate yourself by reading about 5htp and st johns worth which are natural antidepressants if all else fails ask your parents to allow you to try these natural ways instead of the zombie drugs

read this and show them this 5htp
[link to www.webmd.com]


jt johns worth

[link to www.nlm.nih.gov]

Essential fatty acids

[link to www.umm.edu]
 Quoting: Ready2bugout

Saint john wort has alreayd been ruled out. Gma claimed it makes you go insane.
Which turned my dad all it any alternative, but I'll talk to him about it
OP, tell your parents a 28 year old college educated (computer science) professional thinks you are ahead of your time, and thus prone to take on the burdens of an advanced soul, which its very tough in the younger years.

And you dont seem depressed, I've seen a few of your posts.

If you are on GLP, it means you probably don't gravitate to alot of whats mainstream in society, conceptually, and immediately around you physically, especially people of high school age.

I wish you the best, and completely understand you, to the extend my knowledge and intuition of you lets me.

May God continue to bless you, and tell your parents you are ahead of your time, and its not easy!!!! Show them this post!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546501


Thank you!hfhfhf
I will!
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


5-htp is tryptophan..as in the chemical that's in your food.

It will help depression/low mood, anxiety and sleep disturbance. It works by increasing serotonin which converts later to melatonin (need vitamin b6). 5HTP suits those whose depression is associated with anxiety, restlessness, or racing thoughts.

I used it with a liquid b complex everyday and felt better in two weeks, I ended up not needing it for longer than a month and take nothing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7293984


Well hell, I'll definitely try that!! Thank you hf
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


Speaking of such, a good combination is Rhodiola (herb) + L-Theanine (Tea extract) + B vitamins + coffee. B's regulate your mood, nerves, making you happier & stable, Coffee + Rhodiola amp you up, coffee overtaxing the adrenal glands and Rhodiola fueling them, L-Theanine gives you a smooth but non-drowsy calm that will prevent the caffeine and such from hyping you up too much and any burnout. I walk on water with this combo lol

Kinda like a manual energy drink but healthier, safer, stronger, and balanced.
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I don't think parents can legally kick their kids out onto the street until they're 18. In that posistion I would be giving them hell, arguingg non-stop and not taking it until it's physically forced down my throat. I've ever exactly been an obedient kid lol
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your really cute you can come live with me =)
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if it gets too bad i just mighthf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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Hey girl, I got your message in my mailbox. I can't answer you back, as I don't have that option since I'm not a paid member, but I will email you.

I'll put "It's TitianWaves from GLP" in the subject line so you know it's me. :)

hf
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.

Due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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O
U
C
H
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll pray for you

You should do the arts and craft stuff!!!! Sounds like fun!!!!!!!!

or like write a book or something?
Something that just involes finger movement and lots of time to think.

Keep on hanging on, you'll find a passion hf
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


Thank you! :) I'll pray things work out for you as well. hf

Oh, and dreaming is important, so I'm not sure what your dad's deal is with that. We all need to dream.

Check this out: Researchers discovered that people deprived from entering REM sleep, the dream phase of sleep, displayed symptoms of irritability and anxiety. In one dream study, researchers repeatedly woke up volunteers just before they entered the dream state of sleep throughout the night. The volunteers slept the same amount of time as they normally did; they just didn't dream. The next day these volunteers were disoriented, depressed, grouchy, and short-tempered. As the study continued, night after night, the subjects became more agitated. Researchers concluded that dreaming recharges the mind and revitalizes the body. They determined that dreaming is necessary.
[link to rihd.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345732

Thank you hf

Yes dreaming is great!

Will show him hf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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Re: I need ways to trick MY parents into thinking I swallowed a pill!
You are not wasted. It takes time to be where you want to be, and sometimes that place is not where you are supposed to be.

Some people reach it before others.

Perhaps so, I think I'm scared of who I am. I've always avoid those really reality altering drugs, such as acid.
I've heard you find out who you really are, and that scares the shit of me. Maybe because I think of myself as low.

Your right! The world is selfish, we eat for our OWN survival, we breathe the air for our own comfort, we drink, we bathe, we get therapy for our own benefit. Its a revolve around me world.

Great insight of memories. Humans do that, we tend to fancy the past more then we do the present. Even in good times I'll find myself seeping back down to the past in my mind.

I do have to rise above, and so do you.


Quit the self-loathing, you haven't done anything that would make the creator of us hate you. If he doesn't hate you, why should you?

Even if you are not religious, hate leads to no-where. Love is the only weapon against hate, against this world laced in it.

The media was taken love and distorted it, because they know how powerful love is. Love is an art, don't let them tear it apart.

Love yourself.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


I love myself, but I hate me too :)
I never question my abilities, I take silent pride in my capabilities, I have my doubts time and time again, but I feel I am like finely crafted paintbrush with no artist; endless potential.

I hate myself because I am an empathic being.
I literally feel like a cup overflowing with emotion, and I am running out of reservoirs to contain it all. I have no middle ground, I will never be normal, or just "okay". I bruise like a grape and the world is a pincushion.
Luckily, I'd rather receive pain than to give it.

I am religious, baptised catholic, as a toddler went to buddist temple, back to catholic church, teenage years renounced the roman catholic belief in lieu of christianity (baptist), and then as a young adult at 18 woke up to the fact that I was an existentialist. I see most religions as the same pillars holding up the same thing. Foods and how people eat it vary from culture to culture, as does language, so why can't prayer and god? A lot of religions share the same principal tenants.

Even if I have yet to get God,the gods/goddesses/flying spaghetti monster to hate me, it sucks to feel like that hate is justified... after all, I did say I had a problem with self loathing! :P

Regarding hallucinogens:
Once the door is open, don't ever expect to close the door.
You can damn well ignore it, but it will never close again.
Not trying to be foreboding or anything but it can be a life changer for sure. That said, there are plenty ways to get to where hallucinogens take you, psychoactives being merely one of many. Meditation, thought, prayer, all these things (some regard them to be all the same thing) can be a means to the end. The end being self awareness.

You sound like a mature and wonderful woman, you maintain a cheery attitude in spite of challenges you face which takes a lot of strength to do, and you are here on glp waking up, as they say, "those who know enough, know to learn".

Well, i think I'm going to burn this cd now, and try to learn some new shuffle steps in the garage while I still got it in me.
5a
Feel better take care, good luck god speed, and thanks for the pep talk, I hope both of us rise against and rise above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4817291


Empathic just means feelings, you are not a drone, numb and cold.
Love it!

Sounds like your not persistant in your choice of religion!!

Well keep this in mind, God can never hate one of his creations hf

Have fun hf
I know we both will
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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While I sympathize with the OP ...you all are tredding on thin ice. If something was to go wrong with this (under age) girl and is tracked back to advice from this site....shit storm could ensue.
Just saying.
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Wish I could offer some good advice here, but alas, I'm at a loss.

I like the idea of emptying the capsules and filling them with something harmless, but it's lying and I think you should try to talk with them first before you do anything over the top.

I don't like the idea of forced medication - especially anti-depressants and even more so at your age (there's a reason for those black box warnings).

A lot of times parents think it's the kid's problem, but more often than not, the kids are acting out what the parents refuse to see and address. I personally think it's normal to be depressed in your teenage years, especially in this day and age, with hormone fluctuating and the instant gratification sold to us on TV as "the way it's supposed to be".

Good luck hugs and let us know how it goes - you got a lot of people now keeping you in their hearts and prayers.

:prtyturt:
 Quoting: Turtle

Lmao I like that idea too ;), but yeah it is lying.
I will definitely talk first hf

Its a harsh drug I know that, its effects make me icky!

Amen hf Teenage years are protrayed asthe "glory" days HELL NO.

I will hugs
...

Saint john wort has alreayd been ruled out. Gma claimed it makes you go insane.
Which turned my dad all it any alternative, but I'll talk to him about it
...


Thank you!hfhfhf
I will!
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


5-htp is tryptophan..as in the chemical that's in your food.

It will help depression/low mood, anxiety and sleep disturbance. It works by increasing serotonin which converts later to melatonin (need vitamin b6). 5HTP suits those whose depression is associated with anxiety, restlessness, or racing thoughts.

I used it with a liquid b complex everyday and felt better in two weeks, I ended up not needing it for longer than a month and take nothing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7293984


Well hell, I'll definitely try that!! Thank you hf
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


Speaking of such, a good combination is Rhodiola (herb) + L-Theanine (Tea extract) + B vitamins + coffee. B's regulate your mood, nerves, making you happier & stable, Coffee + Rhodiola amp you up, coffee overtaxing the adrenal glands and Rhodiola fueling them, L-Theanine gives you a smooth but non-drowsy calm that will prevent the caffeine and such from hyping you up too much and any burnout. I walk on water with this combo lol

Kinda like a manual energy drink but healthier, safer, stronger, and balanced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7288120


Interesting! Will look into it!

Last Edited by OneEyedWoman on 12/19/2011 06:05 PM
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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Re: I need ways to trick MY parents into thinking I swallowed a pill!
Hey girl, I got your message in my mailbox. I can't answer you back, as I don't have that option since I'm not a paid member, but I will email you.

I'll put "It's TitianWaves from GLP" in the subject line so you know it's me. :)

hf
 Quoting: TitianWaves

Okay!
While I sympathize with the OP ...you all are tredding on thin ice. If something was to go wrong with this (under age) girl and is tracked back to advice from this site....shit storm could ensue.
Just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367644


I don't think anything will go wrong, I'm not ognna follow the adivce about killing them and stuff lol
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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UPDATE
they are putting my brother on meds. I tried to talk him out of it and all he said "'it will help me contorl myself"

Mom is not game for listening.
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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sounds like the plot to a horror movie, or a orwellian sci fi thriller like Equilibrium where all the citizens were forced to take a drug that numbs them down and makes them emotionless, and family members would be spies to make sure they took the drug

prozac is like 90 % fluoride Prozac/Flouride performs no better than placebos and ill cause long term brain damage.

i would drop out of high school and get a job at mcdonalds if i were you, rent a room somewhere, your parents sound psychotic
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You are not wasted. It takes time to be where you want to be, and sometimes that place is not where you are supposed to be.

Some people reach it before others.

Perhaps so, I think I'm scared of who I am. I've always avoid those really reality altering drugs, such as acid.
I've heard you find out who you really are, and that scares the shit of me. Maybe because I think of myself as low.

Your right! The world is selfish, we eat for our OWN survival, we breathe the air for our own comfort, we drink, we bathe, we get therapy for our own benefit. Its a revolve around me world.

Great insight of memories. Humans do that, we tend to fancy the past more then we do the present. Even in good times I'll find myself seeping back down to the past in my mind.

I do have to rise above, and so do you.


Quit the self-loathing, you haven't done anything that would make the creator of us hate you. If he doesn't hate you, why should you?

Even if you are not religious, hate leads to no-where. Love is the only weapon against hate, against this world laced in it.

The media was taken love and distorted it, because they know how powerful love is. Love is an art, don't let them tear it apart.

Love yourself.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


I love myself, but I hate me too :)
I never question my abilities, I take silent pride in my capabilities, I have my doubts time and time again, but I feel I am like finely crafted paintbrush with no artist; endless potential.

I hate myself because I am an empathic being.
I literally feel like a cup overflowing with emotion, and I am running out of reservoirs to contain it all. I have no middle ground, I will never be normal, or just "okay". I bruise like a grape and the world is a pincushion.
Luckily, I'd rather receive pain than to give it.

I am religious, baptised catholic, as a toddler went to buddist temple, back to catholic church, teenage years renounced the roman catholic belief in lieu of christianity (baptist), and then as a young adult at 18 woke up to the fact that I was an existentialist. I see most religions as the same pillars holding up the same thing. Foods and how people eat it vary from culture to culture, as does language, so why can't prayer and god? A lot of religions share the same principal tenants.

Even if I have yet to get God,the gods/goddesses/flying spaghetti monster to hate me, it sucks to feel like that hate is justified... after all, I did say I had a problem with self loathing! :P

Regarding hallucinogens:
Once the door is open, don't ever expect to close the door.
You can damn well ignore it, but it will never close again.
Not trying to be foreboding or anything but it can be a life changer for sure. That said, there are plenty ways to get to where hallucinogens take you, psychoactives being merely one of many. Meditation, thought, prayer, all these things (some regard them to be all the same thing) can be a means to the end. The end being self awareness.

You sound like a mature and wonderful woman, you maintain a cheery attitude in spite of challenges you face which takes a lot of strength to do, and you are here on glp waking up, as they say, "those who know enough, know to learn".

Well, i think I'm going to burn this cd now, and try to learn some new shuffle steps in the garage while I still got it in me.
5a
Feel better take care, good luck god speed, and thanks for the pep talk, I hope both of us rise against and rise above.
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Empathic just means feelings, you are not a drone, numb and cold.
Love it!

Sounds like your not persistant in your choice of religion!!

Well keep this in mind, God can never hate one of his creations hf

Have fun hf
I know we both will
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I was forced into all the religions by my rents except for christianity and existentialism. I am an extremely spiritual being innately.

It sucks that your brother is getting the same treatment as you are, and ur rents aren't willing to listen.

Perhaps if you talked with a pastor or another man of faith, and then he relayed the info back to them, they would listen?

At least it's less painful than shock therapy, and you're almost out of the house. Goodluck god speed!
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sounds like the plot to a horror movie, or a orwellian sci fi thriller like Equilibrium where all the citizens were forced to take a drug that numbs them down and makes them emotionless, and family members would be spies to make sure they took the drug

prozac is like 90 % fluoride Prozac/Flouride performs no better than placebos and ill cause long term brain damage.

i would drop out of high school and get a job at mcdonalds if i were you, rent a room somewhere, your parents sound psychotic
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Well that just scared me more into obviation.

I want to finsh high school atleast, so I can get a decentish job, I can't even drive yet! So I don't know how that would work.

I am being prayed over. So I think I won't get too much damage hf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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You are not wasted. It takes time to be where you want to be, and sometimes that place is not where you are supposed to be.

Some people reach it before others.

Perhaps so, I think I'm scared of who I am. I've always avoid those really reality altering drugs, such as acid.
I've heard you find out who you really are, and that scares the shit of me. Maybe because I think of myself as low.

Your right! The world is selfish, we eat for our OWN survival, we breathe the air for our own comfort, we drink, we bathe, we get therapy for our own benefit. Its a revolve around me world.

Great insight of memories. Humans do that, we tend to fancy the past more then we do the present. Even in good times I'll find myself seeping back down to the past in my mind.

I do have to rise above, and so do you.


Quit the self-loathing, you haven't done anything that would make the creator of us hate you. If he doesn't hate you, why should you?

Even if you are not religious, hate leads to no-where. Love is the only weapon against hate, against this world laced in it.

The media was taken love and distorted it, because they know how powerful love is. Love is an art, don't let them tear it apart.

Love yourself.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


I love myself, but I hate me too :)
I never question my abilities, I take silent pride in my capabilities, I have my doubts time and time again, but I feel I am like finely crafted paintbrush with no artist; endless potential.

I hate myself because I am an empathic being.
I literally feel like a cup overflowing with emotion, and I am running out of reservoirs to contain it all. I have no middle ground, I will never be normal, or just "okay". I bruise like a grape and the world is a pincushion.
Luckily, I'd rather receive pain than to give it.

I am religious, baptised catholic, as a toddler went to buddist temple, back to catholic church, teenage years renounced the roman catholic belief in lieu of christianity (baptist), and then as a young adult at 18 woke up to the fact that I was an existentialist. I see most religions as the same pillars holding up the same thing. Foods and how people eat it vary from culture to culture, as does language, so why can't prayer and god? A lot of religions share the same principal tenants.

Even if I have yet to get God,the gods/goddesses/flying spaghetti monster to hate me, it sucks to feel like that hate is justified... after all, I did say I had a problem with self loathing! :P

Regarding hallucinogens:
Once the door is open, don't ever expect to close the door.
You can damn well ignore it, but it will never close again.
Not trying to be foreboding or anything but it can be a life changer for sure. That said, there are plenty ways to get to where hallucinogens take you, psychoactives being merely one of many. Meditation, thought, prayer, all these things (some regard them to be all the same thing) can be a means to the end. The end being self awareness.

You sound like a mature and wonderful woman, you maintain a cheery attitude in spite of challenges you face which takes a lot of strength to do, and you are here on glp waking up, as they say, "those who know enough, know to learn".

Well, i think I'm going to burn this cd now, and try to learn some new shuffle steps in the garage while I still got it in me.
5a
Feel better take care, good luck god speed, and thanks for the pep talk, I hope both of us rise against and rise above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4817291


Empathic just means feelings, you are not a drone, numb and cold.
Love it!

Sounds like your not persistant in your choice of religion!!

Well keep this in mind, God can never hate one of his creations hf

Have fun hf
I know we both will
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


I was forced into all the religions by my rents except for christianity and existentialism. I am an extremely spiritual being innately.

It sucks that your brother is getting the same treatment as you are, and ur rents aren't willing to listen.

Perhaps if you talked with a pastor or another man of faith, and then he relayed the info back to them, they would listen?

At least it's less painful than shock therapy, and you're almost out of the house. Goodluck god speed!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4817291


Ah, my parents tried to force me into there type of "Christianity" which wasn't too much of a being born again faith, except for my mother maybe! but I choose my own.

The whole church is praying for me!!! I will see if I can talk the pastor into talking some sense into my mother.


Lmao, with those brain zaps its pretty much like shock therapy.
Thank ya hf
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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Be thankful to God you were never FORCED to take antipsychotics! This was in adolescence. My folks and the state made me sign a "contract" that I'd take my antipsychotics. After awhile they sort of "forgot" to refill the pills and I was already half withdrawn and about age 17 I was totally off.

Prozac was actually a Godsend when I was on it. I was very heavily depressed around age 30. It about saved my life at that point.

Question: is your Prozac the "real" stuff or generic. The generics are bad and don't work as well in psych drugs. The generics are usually white and could be replaced with vitamins...only a thought.
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Be thankful to God you were never FORCED to take antipsychotics! This was in adolescence. My folks and the state made me sign a "contract" that I'd take my antipsychotics. After awhile they sort of "forgot" to refill the pills and I was already half withdrawn and about age 17 I was totally off.

Prozac was actually a Godsend when I was on it. I was very heavily depressed around age 30. It about saved my life at that point.

Question: is your Prozac the "real" stuff or generic. The generics are bad and don't work as well in psych drugs. The generics are usually white and could be replaced with vitamins...only a thought.
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Oh man I am thankful!!
Anti psychotics can cause permanent damage in a short amount of time!
I'm sorry that happend!!

I'm glad you got some good out of it, but you see I am not depressed!!!!!!!!

Its generic, its the white capsule with the green rings around it.
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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slight of hand trick - find a candy that looks similar.
do a switch and swallow the candy. when they trust you to be taking the pill just don't/
as soon as your old enough, leave home, sue them for mental and physical abuse, sue the doctor for providing false health care and live happily ever after.
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slight of hand trick - find a candy that looks similar.
do a switch and swallow the candy. when they trust you to be taking the pill just don't/
as soon as your old enough, leave home, sue them for mental and physical abuse, sue the doctor for providing false health care and live happily ever after.
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I tried that today, he checked my hands.
Daddy knows whats up, he dealt with patients who didn't want to take there drugs.

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Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
BRIEF
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slight of hand trick - find a candy that looks similar.
do a switch and swallow the candy. when they trust you to be taking the pill just don't/
as soon as your old enough, leave home, sue them for mental and physical abuse, sue the doctor for providing false health care and live happily ever after.
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I tried that today, he checked my hands.
Daddy knows whats up, he dealt with patients who didn't want to talk there drugs.
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He wanted them to talk to their drugs? Hmmm, starting to see the problem here...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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slight of hand trick - find a candy that looks similar.
do a switch and swallow the candy. when they trust you to be taking the pill just don't/
as soon as your old enough, leave home, sue them for mental and physical abuse, sue the doctor for providing false health care and live happily ever after.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1540086


I tried that today, he checked my hands.
Daddy knows whats up, he dealt with patients who didn't want to talk there drugs.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


He wanted them to talk to their drugs? Hmmm, starting to see the problem here...
 Quoting: BRIEF


lmaoahole
Just around and I'll be there, I'm moving into your atmosphere.

Romans 8:39 Any other living thing cannot keep us away from the love of God which is ours through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ""Abba," Father."

Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. –Romans 14:1

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
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Be thankful to God you were never FORCED to take antipsychotics! This was in adolescence. My folks and the state made me sign a "contract" that I'd take my antipsychotics. After awhile they sort of "forgot" to refill the pills and I was already half withdrawn and about age 17 I was totally off.

Prozac was actually a Godsend when I was on it. I was very heavily depressed around age 30. It about saved my life at that point.

Question: is your Prozac the "real" stuff or generic. The generics are bad and don't work as well in psych drugs. The generics are usually white and could be replaced with vitamins...only a thought.
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Oh man I am thankful!!
Anti psychotics can cause permanent damage in a short amount of time!
I'm sorry that happend!!

I'm glad you got some good out of it, but you see I am not depressed!!!!!!!!

Its generic, its the white capsule with the green rings around it.
 Quoting: OneEyedWoman


Yeah probably it did do damage and made me function at a lower level as well as give me a "loser" complex for life. Getting off Prozac was easy for me since it has a long half life. Do you have a friend nearby you can move in with to finish high school?
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go see your doctor and explain the side-effects, ask what can be done
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Is this some sort of social experiment to see how long it will take strangers to take advantage of a teenage girl in any given circumstance?

If not, OP, you have your answer. Regardless of your age, you are going to have to face moving out of your parents home. You have to recognize that other people are not the means of your survival, even though it looks that way sometimes because material things are provided. It is blinding. You are alive today because of another force that seeks to protect you all the time, whether you know it or not.

You have to follow yourself inside. You will never be at peace with yourself until you listen to yourself inside, regardless of what other people have to say, even if they are your blood relatives and closest friends.

We have been brainwashed and there are very few of us who are awake to what is going on. It does not take money to live and that is essentially what keeps people going everyday. People have no idea why they are here and there purpose, whatever it may be, has been distorted and confused. So, once you know that, it makes even the possibility of homelessness not sound so bad.

Because... even if you were homeless, you would still be alive and you would be remaining true to yourself inside.

We weren't put here to be martyrs, in any circumstance. And we have the choice to choose, at any given time, to align ourselves with the truth within us. It's just hard at timea to even consider it a possibility because to abandon what we were all taught to do would almost mean for certain we would all lose our homes because we couldn't pay for them, we would lose everything material that we have. It fills us with so much fear one cannot even begin to think about revolting toward everything they have been taught to do their entire lives: to strive for money.

But... rest assured... if you were meant to be horribly tortured with pain and torment until you died, it would have happened already. Now, it's just us that do that to ourselves by not listening to what we really want inside.

So, long story short... move out. Fuck any kind of justification you may have for not. It's not valid. If you truly believe inside you must protect yourself, you must do that or your spirit will die.
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Is this some sort of social experiment to see how long it will take strangers to take advantage of a teenage girl in any given circumstance?

If not, OP, you have your answer. Regardless of your age, you are going to have to face moving out of your parents home. You have to recognize that other people are not the means of your survival, even though it looks that way sometimes because material things are provided. It is blinding. You are alive today because of another force that seeks to protect you all the time, whether you know it or not.

You have to follow yourself inside. You will never be at peace with yourself until you listen to yourself inside, regardless of what other people have to say, even if they are your blood relatives and closest friends.

We have been brainwashed and there are very few of us who are awake to what is going on. It does not take money to live and that is essentially what keeps people going everyday. People have no idea why they are here and there purpose, whatever it may be, has been distorted and confused. So, once you know that, it makes even the possibility of homelessness not sound so bad.

Because... even if you were homeless, you would still be alive and you would be remaining true to yourself inside.

We weren't put here to be martyrs, in any circumstance. And we have the choice to choose, at any given time, to align ourselves with the truth within us. It's just hard at timea to even consider it a possibility because to abandon what we were all taught to do would almost mean for certain we would all lose our homes because we couldn't pay for them, we would lose everything material that we have. It fills us with so much fear one cannot even begin to think about revolting toward everything they have been taught to do their entire lives: to strive for money.

But... rest assured... if you were meant to be horribly tortured with pain and torment until you died, it would have happened already. Now, it's just us that do that to ourselves by not listening to what we really want inside.

So, long story short... move out. Fuck any kind of justification you may have for not. It's not valid. If you truly believe inside you must protect yourself, you must do that or your spirit will die.
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clappa Well done!
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