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Scientists claim that 'self' can relocate to other bodies, or be made to include a third arm

 
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Scientists claim that 'self' can relocate to other bodies, or be made to include a third arm
Neoroscientists claim that the transference of one's self to another body (as depicted here in the film 'Metropolis') is possible, on a psychological level

For millennia, philosophers have debated whether or not the self exists solely in the mind, the body, or both. Well, it's unclear whether this will help clear things up or just muddy the waters further, but Swedish neuroscientists are now claiming that the human brain can add outside objects such as a third arm to one's physical sense of self, and that people can even mentally project their "self" out of their own body and into someone else's. If these findings hold up, the implications for virtual reality, robotics and prostheses could be substantial.

Experiments were performed at Stockholm's Karolinska Institutet medical university, in which a highly-realistic prosthetic right arm was placed on a table beside human subjects' own arms, so they could see all three. Scientists then simultaneously touched both the prosthetic arm and the subjects' own right arms with a small brush, at the same location on both arms.

"What happens then is that a conflict arises in the brain concerning which of the right hands belongs to the participant's body," said Arvid Guterstam, one of the scientists conducting the research. "What one could expect is that only one of the hands is experienced as one's own, presumably the real arm. But what we found, surprisingly, is that the brain solves this conflict by accepting both right hands as part of the body image, and the subjects experience having an extra third arm."


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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
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Weird!

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Fascinating stuff.

Last Edited by John Goz on 12/19/2011 06:41 PM
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Waves extend beyond the body.

Cool!



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Fascinating!

I like the subjects you're interested in OP

you should come over to my place sometime

we could hang and talk for hours :)
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Fascinating!

I like the subjects you're interested in OP

you should come over to my place sometime

we could hang and talk for hours :)
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Would love to hang with a purple chicken.
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Cool-a-mundo!

So, with a third arm, I could play X-Box AND jerk off, simultaneous!

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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
[link to www.wikihow.com]



Weird!
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Just tried it several times

doesn't work for me :(
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Weird sensation not sure it was two noses but felt strange.


Weird after effect as well.
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Weird sensation not sure it was two noses but felt strange.


Weird after effect as well.
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LoL, maybe I'm going to be stuck with two noses.

Makes you wonder what is it that connects our awareness to our bodies.
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Weird sensation not sure it was two noses but felt strange.


Weird after effect as well.
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LoL, maybe I'm going to be stuck with two noses.

Makes you wonder what is it that connects our awareness to our bodies.
 Quoting: John Goz


explains telekinesis

and telepathy for that matter
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Cool thread & karma for you! I like a lot of Gregg Braden's stuff, too.
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Re: Scientists claim that 'self' can relocate to other bodies, or be made to include a third arm
Ive alwasys felt i have the ability to reach out and touch something without actually touching it. Its like im feeling things with my eyes. Like can feel every crevice, bump etc and the general texture of something. It could be my brain playing tricks on me though since i think i have to have a general sense of what different kind of surfaces and textures feel like. It may be hard to feel an unknown surface that i never felt... that would be the true test.
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Interesting!
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Waves extend beyond the body.

Cool!


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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
[link to www.wikihow.com]



Weird!
 Quoting: John Goz


Just tried it several times

doesn't work for me :(
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


It worked for me. Very bizarre. Thanks, OP

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well, two noses kinds worked for me, somehow my brain knew it was two fingers one nose


hers a fun one........the "dead finger" (requires a friend)


place your index finger (or any finger) in a upside down V shape with your friends finger


with your other hand, run your thumb and index finger up and down your finger and your friends finger at the same time


feels wierd!
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Easy! When you get married, you are ONE BODY!
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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
[link to www.wikihow.com]



Weird!
 Quoting: John Goz


Just tried it several times

doesn't work for me :(
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


Doesn't for me either- could be my 50/50 brain usage between left & right sides or the fact that I have very touchy sensations on my hands and I'm used to doing things while not being able to see what I'm doing at all times ie: working on my car, computer etc for so many years.
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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
[link to www.wikihow.com]



Weird!
 Quoting: John Goz


I cant get it to work..lol
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How to Feel Like You Have Two Noses



Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to have two noses? You can find out using this touch illusion, an illusion that exploits your sense of touch to "trick" your brain. It is also sometimes referred to as the Aristotle illusion.[1] You can perform this illusion right now on yourself, and it may forever change the way you think about your senses. It won't make you smell better, though. If you need help with that, just take a shower.
[link to www.wikihow.com]



Weird!
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Badass.
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Fascinating!

I like the subjects you're interested in OP

you should come over to my place sometime

we could hang and talk for hours :)
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Would love to hang with a purple chicken.
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