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Do FreeMasons-Templars-Illuminati Worship Lucifer?

 
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Who the fuck is Marduk? I can assure you that none of the above listed characters have ANYTHING to do with masonry, AT ALL..
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You are a low level Mason, congratulations.

Perhaps if you had actually laid eyes/studied from real Illuminated text you would see that you clearly worship the remnants of Marduk and the Babylonian empire.

Just because the Masons only get to go as far back as Egyptian practices, doesn't mean those are the only practices there are, nor does it mean they were the first, original practices.

The original practices come from the first cities in the cradle of civilization, in the heart of Babylon.....ancient Mesopotamia.
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And what exactly is it that I'm supposed to be worshiping? And if the rites and rituals do go that far back, who's to say that it MUST be "devil" worship, or marduk, or the easter bunny or whatever character of history you want to plug in there to meet your need of labeling a group of people due to your own insecurities with your faith?
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Oh I agree entirely, I have absolutely nothing against those who practice these types of rituals or worship services.

I just prefer people give credit where credit is due, and understand fully what kind of history they are engaging in, in order to give it the proper amount of respect.

Marduk is mentioned by names in later texts(Specifically by the name Marduk in some of the oldest known doctrines), but those are often pretty far out of reach for most.


As I said above, in terms of the average , modern day, Abrahamic Judaic or Xtian worshipper. They think Marduk is Satan.

Buuuut.....they are just following the practices of his priests as well.

Most major organized religions stem from ancient Babylon's systems of worship. Because that is where mankind was first given kingship/law/technology/written word/mathematics etc etc.
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Ahh.. I get what your saying..

But just to let you know, from someone with personal experience, we don't worship marduk - or anything for that matter. There is NO idol worship in masonry, none, zip nadda - just flat out doesn't exist.
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Jesus is the way!
Love God, love others.
God bless.
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Masonic jewish people Plot To Control The World.
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FM is not Jewish. Marrs is a liar.

They were founded by Templars and Jesuits.

Do they have a Luciferian practice? Absolutely. But the real question is, who do they serve?

The Pope created the Templars and still runs it today.
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hell yes they do, and they most certainly HATE Jesus Christ and Christianity so much they are extremely careful to NEVER mention his name in Masonic Rituals. They are the fags who want to put 'Xmas" on everything, they are the satanic rulers of the Roman Empire, who miss torturing the earthlings and trampling them beneath their feet, and spitting on their humanity.
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That's the biggest pile of bullshit ever.

Get a life. I'm a christian mason, who definitely does not hate Jesus Christ.

If you knew anything about Masonry, you might find yourself closer to your own ideals than you previous thought possible.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I ask you this genuinely.

Do you know what they are referring to in your sig?

"Tall Cedars of Lebanon" ??

Do you know why they would be using that terminology?
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This information is easily available on a google search.

In the creation of Solomon's Temple, as you may or may not know, the inside of the walls were covered in cedar wood. The "Tall Cedars of Lebanon" is reference to the workers who honed the wood for the adornment of the temple.
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lol....nope.

Thats the mainstream understanding, the reason they use the Cedars is because of a site......a very important site.

Solomon's Temple is far too new a structure, though it is of obvious importance, there is a much more important story regarding those tall Cedars of Lebanon and a site contained therein.

The sacred site is now called Baalbek. It was of great importance in the very distant past, as it was a landing site.

The Temple of Jupiter is one of them most sacred sites in all of the Illuminated world, next to a few other zones along or near the 30th parallel.

The Cedars were referred since antiquity, one of the most famous legends is this one, which I encourage you to hunt down and read. But try reading the simple information on the wiki. Pay attention to the mentioning of the Cedars, and some of the other key elements to this tale. It is a very important and sacred piece of our history.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Masonic jewish people Plot To Control The World.
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FM is not Jewish. Marrs is a liar.

They were founded by Templars and Jesuits.

Do they have a Luciferian practice? Absolutely.
But the real question is, who do they serve?

The Pope created the Templars and still runs it today.
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? BRITISH ELITE?
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The Temple of Jupiter is one of them most sacred sites in all of the Illuminated world,
next to a few other zones along or near the 30th parallel.


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You are a low level Mason, congratulations.

Perhaps if you had actually laid eyes/studied from real Illuminated text you would see that you clearly worship the remnants of Marduk and the Babylonian empire.

Just because the Masons only get to go as far back as Egyptian practices, doesn't mean those are the only practices there are, nor does it mean they were the first, original practices.

The original practices come from the first cities in the cradle of civilization, in the heart of Babylon.....ancient Mesopotamia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6979548



And what exactly is it that I'm supposed to be worshiping? And if the rites and rituals do go that far back, who's to say that it MUST be "devil" worship, or marduk, or the easter bunny or whatever character of history you want to plug in there to meet your need of labeling a group of people due to your own insecurities with your faith?
 Quoting: Archaic Mason




Oh I agree entirely, I have absolutely nothing against those who practice these types of rituals or worship services.

I just prefer people give credit where credit is due, and understand fully what kind of history they are engaging in, in order to give it the proper amount of respect.

Marduk is mentioned by names in later texts(Specifically by the name Marduk in some of the oldest known doctrines), but those are often pretty far out of reach for most.


As I said above, in terms of the average , modern day, Abrahamic Judaic or Xtian worshipper. They think Marduk is Satan.

Buuuut.....they are just following the practices of his priests as well.

Most major organized religions stem from ancient Babylon's systems of worship. Because that is where mankind was first given kingship/law/technology/written word/mathematics etc etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6979548


Ahh.. I get what your saying..

But just to let you know, from someone with personal experience, we don't worship marduk - or anything for that matter. There is NO idol worship in masonry, none, zip nadda - just flat out doesn't exist.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason




Again, I will reiterate.

Masonic and Illuminated paths are slightly different by level of awareness, not by origin or in fact, content.
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We descend from the original high priests of the Druids, Tribe of Levi.

Cross and snake

Probably one of the few men who know what they are talking about is Michael Tsarion. So, if you want to learn some truths, read his materials. However, I do not agree with all his findings and or views but he is pretty spot on. While I am not a Freemason, my family started one of the first secret societies where all to this day diverge from and are related.

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The Temple of Jupiter is one of them most sacred sites in all of the Illuminated world,
next to a few other zones along or near the 30th parallel.



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Yup, mainly due to what is was long before it was called the Temple of Jupiter.

Those stones you see now, are simply window dressing to a super massive structure and they have no idea as to how it was created. They would be unable to recreate it with modern technology.

Baalbek.....the secondary landing platform after they destroyed the first in the Sinai.
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13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,
and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles,
which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Rev 16


at the end of the day the templars are DRACONIAN.
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Masonic jewish people Plot To Control The World.
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FM is not Jewish. Marrs is a liar.

They were founded by Templars and Jesuits.

Do they have a Luciferian practice? Absolutely.
But the real question is, who do they serve?

The Pope created the Templars and still runs it today.
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? BRITISH ELITE?
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High Priest Elite who earned the rite. Much of what you see around you today is the result of all of them. Good and bad.
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Define "Lucifer".
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We descend from the original high priests of the Druids, Tribe of Levi.

:Cross and snake:

Probably one of the few men who know what they are talking about is Michael Tsarion. So, if you want to learn some truths, read his materials. However, I do not agree with all his finding and or views. It is pretty spot on. While I am not a Freemason, my family started one of the first secret societies where all to this day diverge from and are related.

:Beda Old:

We worship the truth and light.

:Our time has com:
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YOUR TIME HAS COME. CELTIC DRUIDS. GAELIC RITE. ILLUSTRIOUS ORDER. ILLUMANATI.



JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD.
THE WORD OF GOD IS THE TRUTH.


And then shall that wicked one be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth,
and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming--
even him, whose coming is according to the working of Satan,
with all power and signs and lying wonders,
and with all the deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish,
because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie,
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13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,
and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles,
which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Rev 16


at the end of the day the templars are DRACONIAN.
 Quoting: Dogmoral 6564628


Here, again, I do not agree with everything, but much of what he says is spot on except his evil depiction of the great work for it is divine work. I do NOT speak for the Templars, but for the truth.

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We descend from the original high priests of the Druids, Tribe of Levi.

Cross and snake

Probably one of the few men who know what they are talking about is Michael Tsarion. So, if you want to learn some truths, read his materials. However, I do not agree with all his finding and or views. It is pretty spot on. While I am not a Freemason, my family started one of the first secret societies where all to this day diverge from and are related.

Beda Old

We worship the truth and light.

Our time has com
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


YOUR TIME HAS COME. CELTIC DRUIDS. GAELIC RITE. ILLUSTRIOUS ORDER. ILLUMANATI.



JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD.
THE WORD OF GOD IS THE TRUTH.


And then shall that wicked one be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth,
and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming--
even him, whose coming is according to the working of Satan,
with all power and signs and lying wonders,
and with all the deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish,
because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie,
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5a Yeah, baby, yeah!


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A snippet of some other additional information.

"The ancient Sumerian chief deity was Enlil, the Lord of the Wind. Enlil owed nominal loyalty to his father Anu/Heaven but outside of southern Mesopotamia he gradually became more important evolving to the status of king of the gods. In Canaan Enlil was known as El, the father of an entire pantheon of gods that included Yahweh.
In the Atrahasis the chief of the gods, Enlil (known as Ellil in Akkadian) had been confronted by a revolt of the lesser gods, which caused him to create humans as servants. However after some centuries pass the humans become a nuisance. Finally Enlil release a devastating flood to reduce the human population.
In the second verse of Genesis God, who is called Elohim in the Hebrew, is said to hover over the waters. This description of God and the use of the name Elohim further reveals this Babylonian god’s influence.
Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters. - (Gen: 1,2)
This image of God moving over the waters compares directly with the mythology of Enlil who was made visible by traces of his passing such as ripples on the water.
Ningishzida was a Mesopotamian serpent deity associated with the underworld. He was often depicted protectively wrapped around a tree as a guardian. Thorkild Jacobsen interprets his name in Sumerian to mean "lord of the good tree."[6]
Despite apparent similarities between Genesis and the Enûma Eliš, there are also significant differences. The most notable is the absence from Genesis of the "divine combat" (the gods' battle with Tiamat) which secures Marduk's position as king of the world, but even this has an echo in the claims of Yahweh's kingship over creation in such places as Psalm 29 and Psalm 93, where he is pictured as sitting enthroned over the floods and Isaiah 27:1. "In that day, the Lord will punish with his sword; his fierce, great and powerful sword; Leviathan the gliding serpent, Leviathan the coiling serpent; he will slay the monster of the sea." Thus this creation account may be seen as either a borrowing or historicizing of Babylonian myth[7] or, in contrast, may be seen as a repudiation of Babylonian ideas about origins and humanity.[8]
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From the Panbabylonian wiki....
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ORDO AB CHAO

Without dark, there can be no light.
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To the average Christian there is no difference between Marduk and their "Lucifer" or "Satan" or what have you....
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Who the fuck is Marduk? I can assure you that none of the above listed characters have ANYTHING to do with masonry, AT ALL..
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You are a low level Mason, congratulations.

Perhaps if you had actually laid eyes/studied from real Illuminated text you would see that you clearly worship the remnants of Marduk and the Babylonian empire.

Just because the Masons only get to go as far back as Egyptian practices, doesn't mean those are the only practices there are, nor does it mean they were the first, original practices.

The original practices come from the first cities in the cradle of civilization, in the heart of Babylon.....ancient Mesopotamia.
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And what exactly is it that I'm supposed to be worshiping? And if the rites and rituals do go that far back, who's to say that it MUST be "devil" worship, or marduk, or the easter bunny or whatever character of history you want to plug in there to meet your need of labeling a group of people due to your own insecurities with your faith?
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


When you have to call another of your Lodge brothers a "Most Worshipful Master" what does that mean? Is he being worshipped or worshipping something? It is one of the two. Don't answer that though, but don't un-answer it with protesting. It's a secret.

Whatever the light is to them is the light. But it seems, at the end of the day, it turns out that the secret societies mostly worship themselves. No deity told them to arrange their clubs like that, they just figured it out through magical work of older deader people. Magic. The magic of using human souls to their advantage. There it is. Of course they will tell lower level members that it's not so serious. Secrets are serious. The weirdest part is that it only seems voluntary.
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Okay, the Church of Satan grew some pride

why not just admit it

Santa loves u! Satan loves u! Ohhhh Satan loves u! Sing along...

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Babylonian idolatry


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Definitively, undeniably... NOOOOOOOO! Freemasons do not worship Lucifer...
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


To the average Christian there is no difference between Marduk and their "Lucifer" or "Satan" or what have you....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6979548


Who the fuck is Marduk? I can assure you that none of the above listed characters have ANYTHING to do with masonry, AT ALL..
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


You are a low level Mason, congratulations.

Perhaps if you had actually laid eyes/studied from real Illuminated text you would see that you clearly worship the remnants of Marduk and the Babylonian empire.

Just because the Masons only get to go as far back as Egyptian practices, doesn't mean those are the only practices there are, nor does it mean they were the first, original practices.

The original practices come from the first cities in the cradle of civilization, in the heart of Babylon.....ancient Mesopotamia.
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I love how its always the non-masons making claims like this. Where's your proof? Or did you read it online? SHow me some masons here that claim this is what goes on in their lodge.
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100% yes-The top of the illuminati chain worship lucifer/satan. Under the 31st degree they most likely do not know the truth and they therefore do not worship satan but some may.
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FREEMASONRY PROVEN TO WORSHIP SATAN , AS IT ADORES AND WORSHIPS THE SERPENT




AND THEY WORSHIPED THE DRAGON, WHICH GAVE POWER UNTO THE BEAST, SAYING" WHO IS LIKE THE BEAST, WHO WILL MAKE WAR WITH HIM.



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Step 1 - In line with our belief that Antichrist will come from the House of Windsor, Prince William joined the "Order of the Garter", a secret society formed in 1348 which has long exercised great control over the global Illuminati.


Step 2 - Prince Charles and Queen Elizabeth II announce plans to put Prince William through an unprecedented course on how to be a King -- a course of training never done before in all England's long history! Is William going to be trained to be Antichrist, the coming "Man of Lawlessness"?

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