Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,772 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 847,223
Pageviews Today: 1,454,114Threads Today: 565Posts Today: 10,491
04:12 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy

 
Tekunda

User ID: 6721497
Netherlands
12/20/2011 07:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
[link to www.independent.co.uk]



Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

And in case there was any doubt about the preternatural degree of energy needed to make such distinct marks, the Enea report spells it out: "This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date.

Last Edited by Tekunda on 12/20/2011 07:07 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1481732
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 07:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1106916
United States
12/20/2011 07:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7382454
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 07:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
italian scientists eh?

can we sue them if it turns out to be bullshit?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1509906
United States
12/20/2011 08:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
One of the Sturp team, Barrie Swartze, went there expecting to look at the shroud, declare it a fake and go home.

30 years later, he says that he sees no other explanation than the shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

Even more freaky? Barrie is Jewish.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 972619
Netherlands
12/20/2011 08:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
I have got a few words:

Catholics-money-bribe

Let's make it a shroud of urine!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6992575
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 08:07 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
spock
in5d

User ID: 7433617
United States
12/20/2011 08:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7433593
United States
12/20/2011 08:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Knew it all along. The Shroud of Turin is The Holy Grail, the object that contains the blood of Christ. The sample of linen researchers took to test the age of the Shroud several decades ago was cut from the section that was repaired after it survived a fire in the Middle Ages. It is a 3-D image that cannot be reproduced except by high bursts of energy, like in a Resurrection. Merry Christ-mas.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1549920
United States
12/20/2011 08:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
i don't understand how this is supernatural????
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475310
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 08:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
One of the Sturp team, Barrie Swartze, went there expecting to look at the shroud, declare it a fake and go home.

30 years later, he says that he sees no other explanation than the shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

Even more freaky? Barrie is Jewish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509906


So? It doesn't mean he acknowledges Jesus as the messiah. I don't think jewish people deny his existence... but that we wasn't who he claimed to be.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475310
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 08:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
One of the Sturp team, Barrie Swartze, went there expecting to look at the shroud, declare it a fake and go home.

30 years later, he says that he sees no other explanation than the shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

Even more freaky? Barrie is Jewish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509906


So? It doesn't mean he acknowledges Jesus as the messiah. I don't think jewish people deny his existence... but that we wasn't who he claimed to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


Hence why they murdered him. Or have you forgotten that bit?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6500364
United States
12/20/2011 08:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Would you believe the JFK single bullet theory ?
It was also "proven" through "science".

Or would you believe the story of one man's lifetime that somehow survived for over 2000 years so far ?

justa ponderin here....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7107485
United States
12/20/2011 08:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1368948
United States
12/20/2011 08:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
... Have none of you seen the various history/discovery shows that have shown how the shroud was made? Worth a looksee before you believe this garbage. :3
Mango Positive

User ID: 1178327
United States
12/20/2011 08:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
There are no real scientists examining the shroud. Real scientists are working on important things that actually effect our lives. They have done more for you than any supernatural boogie man ever has.
'Faith' is the acknowledgment that you have absolutely no justification for the silly shit you believe.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7434433
Hong Kong
12/20/2011 08:42 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Nuclear
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6546633
United States
12/20/2011 08:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Super Nova
citizenperth

User ID: 7417598
Australia
12/20/2011 08:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
so, jc hung out in nightclubs under whitelights?
It's life as we know it, but only just.
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie
BRIEF

User ID: 381742
United States
12/20/2011 08:51 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
i don't understand how this is supernatural????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549920


It was impossible for "cave men" to forge the shroud because they didn't have the technology...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

Briefcut4892
2012Portal
2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012

User ID: 519048
Netherlands
12/20/2011 08:52 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
This is quite interesting. Thank you OP.
From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear:
[link to graphicstart.com]
--- --- ---
"Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1511265
United States
12/20/2011 08:54 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Glory be to GOD!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7430299
Thailand
12/20/2011 08:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
Countless scientists have done their best to prove it is a fake. They could not. Get over it.

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.

He is coming soon but most of you scoffing fools on this thread won't be around to see it ...

Repent now while you still can,
Uncle
BRIEF

User ID: 381742
United States
12/20/2011 08:56 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
I love how it takes science 100+ years to confirm what many of us have known most of our lives...


Maybe one day in my lifetime they will prove that you can't get something from nothing proving scientifically that the Atheists are wrong and the creationists are indeed correct...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

Briefcut4892
Drummy
User ID: 3573926
United States
12/20/2011 08:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
The shroud is supernatural because the image of Jesus etched on the shroud was formed by the resurrection. To do this it took about the same energy equivalent as a low level nuclear reaction....this technology wasn't quite available during Jesus time on earth
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7434981
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 09:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
This is a long read but well worth the time it,s about D.N.A emitting UV light says it all...
[link to www.viewzone.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3573926
United States
12/20/2011 09:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
There are no real scientists examining the shroud. Real scientists are working on important things that actually effect our lives. They have done more for you than any supernatural boogie man ever has.
 Quoting: Mango Positive


Yeah the real scientists are working on HAARP, weaponized H5N1, GMOs, and other amazing helpful things humanity absolutely needs.

Science has proved countless times Jesus life and resurrection, you may want to reconsider what you call truth...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6500364
United States
12/20/2011 09:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
There are no real scientists examining the shroud. Real scientists are working on important things that actually effect our lives. They have done more for you than any supernatural boogie man ever has.
 Quoting: Mango Positive


YEA, like curing colds, and baldness, and that new
anti gravity transportation system, and explaining why evolution started..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5916429
United States
12/20/2011 09:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
What good timing ;)

More religion, anyone?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7242673
United Kingdom
12/20/2011 09:17 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
*facepalm*

and while people were sniffing jesus's old clothes and trying to find his image in a piece of fucking toast, his teachings go unheard and unpracticed, and a religion has built a temple over his grave to silence his turnings in the grave.

Fuck christianity. Fuck these people who try to perpetuate a story that has no basis in reality. Get fucking real and meditate on what HE actually said, not what some douchery in garbs has said!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1486952
Spain
12/20/2011 09:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - Brand-new research from Italy
[link to www.independent.co.uk]



Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

And in case there was any doubt about the preternatural degree of energy needed to make such distinct marks, the Enea report spells it out: "This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date.
 Quoting: Tekunda


With all due respect..We said so.. here on Glp first didnt we ?

cheer





GLP