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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember Occam's Razor? You know? Lex parsimoniae (the law of parsimony, economy or succinctness), is a principle that generally recommends from among competing hypotheses selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions.. All of his "miracles" can be explained with modern technology that could've been accessed through an advanced race. Walking on water? Has been done through manipulation of gravity and optical illusions. Curing the sick? Can be explained through moder medical proceedures. Water into wine? Can be done through modern fermenting proccessing. Virgin birth? Can be done through en vitro fertilization. Angels descending from heaven? Jetpacks and parachutes anyone? Stop looking into things as if there is some kind of "supernatural" explanation and look at it for what it is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The burden of proof rest squarely on the believers shoulders, champ... Oh, and Vatican funded psuedoscience is not a valid explanation. It's all smoke and mirrors -- diversion tactics. Stick to the "aliens did it" argument. It's the best one you mockers have. Lol. You look for "magic" and the "supernatural" to explain things we can now do on our own, and I'm the mocker? Pull up your pants people, it's getting pretty deep in here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The burden of proof rest squarely on the believers shoulders, champ... Oh, and Vatican funded psuedoscience is not a valid explanation. spare me your sound bites.Im not a parrot Ill give you someof mine to repeat.. :many of the scientists are not even Christian Right, because the jewish people are immune to monetary bribery just like the Vatican. We all know how much those jewish people hate money. The bullshit is getting up to neck level now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The burden of proof rest squarely on the believers shoulders, champ... Oh, and Vatican funded psuedoscience is not a valid explanation. It's all smoke and mirrors -- diversion tactics. Stick to the "aliens did it" argument. It's the best one you mockers have. Lol. You look for "magic" and the "supernatural" to explain things we can now do on our own, and I'm the mocker? Pull up your pants people, it's getting pretty deep in here. If I were you Id just raise the BS flag and save the trouble lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll go ahead and humor your ridiculous beliefs and explainations though as you mock an alien theory. You are aware that Elohim means "Mighty Ones" refering to "those that came from the sky",in other words Extra-terrestrials, right? It was the Elohim that created us! Genesis 1:26 Let US make MAN in OUR image after OUR likeness. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are elohim?. In the jewish Torah it says Elohim and not God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 893880 United States 12/20/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The burden of proof rest squarely on the believers shoulders, champ... Oh, and Vatican funded psuedoscience is not a valid explanation. It's all smoke and mirrors -- diversion tactics. Stick to the "aliens did it" argument. It's the best one you mockers have. Lol. You look for "magic" and the "supernatural" to explain things we can now do on our own, and I'm the mocker? Pull up your pants people, it's getting pretty deep in here. So explain it champ. |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/20/2011 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really hate to admit it..but Im reeeally enjoying this Quoting: wildhoney come on debunkers give it your best Thou hast sinnith in pride...repent and humble thyself! Last Edited by BRIEF on 12/20/2011 03:07 PM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it any wonder that ancient people were fooled by the "miracles" of Jesus? This wasn't the first time extraterrestrials tried to influence human affairs. Previously, they successfully appeared to Moses as a "burning bush" and dumped the 10 Commandments on mankind. The Aliens thought The Christ Project would be no different, but needless to say, their little experiment went horribly awry. Supposedly, the EBEN-2's were pretty damn pissed when they came back to check on Jesus' progress, only to find that the humans had killed him. Worse yet, the primitive fools started worshiping him! 2000 years and millions of atrocities later, Jesus the space alien is STILL being mistakenly worshiped as a God. Man is truly a pathetic creature ... desperately yearning for an "almighty being" to control and regulate their lives ... frantically looking for "God" in tortillas, oil stains, and tree trunks. Well, like it or not, we now have definitive proof that at least one of our earthly "gods", Jesus Christ, is a phony. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502042 The burden of proof rest squarely on the believers shoulders, champ... Oh, and Vatican funded psuedoscience is not a valid explanation. It's all smoke and mirrors -- diversion tactics. Stick to the "aliens did it" argument. It's the best one you mockers have. Lol. You look for "magic" and the "supernatural" to explain things we can now do on our own, and I'm the mocker? Pull up your pants people, it's getting pretty deep in here. So explain it champ. Name one of the "miracles" and I will most definitely give you an explanation using modern technology and common sense, along with a bit of Occam's Razor. I did this a bit already, earlier on this page... |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/20/2011 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely before you can claim that is is Jesus' burial shroud you have to prove that he actually existed? Quoting: P M 7449198 You mean like a birth certificate or something, perhaps a photo ID or what? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 881419 United States 12/20/2011 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this all shows is that the person we know as Christ lived about a thousand years ago and Scaligerian history concocted 700 years ago by the Vatican is now coming home to roost with those who weren't aware of it. They gave themselves a long and distinguished history that was non-existent. Read Anatoly Fomenko, and coauthors. "History: Science or Myth?" So far only the first four volumes are in English. They can be found as .pdf files on the internet or purchased from amazon. The first one is the best 9 dollars you ever spent. If you think you know history, prepare to have your programming short-circuited. A whole boat-load of top Russian scholars have worked on this and the best thing our historians can come up with is that "a lot of people don't take this seriously" which equates rational thinking with rationalization. Ever wonder why we had a bronze age before the discovery of tin? Or bronze before we knew how to reduce oxidized copper? Yes, indeed the Shroud of Turin is the image of the one. But he lived only slightly less than a millennium ago. And people can prove it! And they already have. But don't worry, you will be the last to know. |
P M User ID: 7449198 New Zealand 12/20/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My point is that before you can say he was wrapped in this cloth you have to be able to prove he did. That is just basic common sense. |
MartianPrincess User ID: 1347453 United States 12/20/2011 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect... I don't think people who believe that Jesus was some type of advanced, extraterrestrial-like being are "debunkers". Their theory is as far-fetched as the original one. It is obvious that G*d is not FROM this Earth...and anything not of this world is deemed a what? And if G*d indeed fathered Jesus somehow, wouldn't that make him a hybrid and this would explain his powers? Occam's Razor, morans! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502042 United States 12/20/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not saying Jesus did or did not exist. I can't prove it either way. As far as I am aware nobody else has been able to, so far, either. Quoting: P M 7449198 My point is that before you can say he was wrapped in this cloth you have to be able to prove he did. That is just basic common sense. Or that he was the son of god and not some whacko with a messiah complex. He wasn't the first, nor will he be the last with that mental condition. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not saying Jesus did or did not exist. I can't prove it either way. As far as I am aware nobody else has been able to, so far, either. Quoting: P M 7449198 My point is that before you can say he was wrapped in this cloth you have to be able to prove he did. That is just basic common sense. lets put it this way: this burial cloth according to Forensic evidence allegedly matches 100% the Gospel account of the torture and death of Christ.. Now remember this Forensic evidence could not have been verified and tested prior to having these advanced technologies available get the picture? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect... I don't think people who believe that Jesus was some type of advanced, extraterrestrial-like being are "debunkers". Their theory is as far-fetched as the original one. It is obvious that G*d is not FROM this Earth...and anything not of this world is deemed a what? Quoting: MartianPrincess And if G*d indeed fathered Jesus somehow, wouldn't that make him a hybrid and this would explain his powers? and I wonder if He would bother if you wrote God or G.d? |