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Cancer, the key to immortality.
What if cancer research was not about curing cancer but to figure out how to use cancer to become immortal?

So how were scientists able to make cells immortal? The secret to producing cell immortality lay in their realizing that all cells possess a gene, known as the telomerase gene, which can add DNA back to the tip of telomeres, restoring them to their original youthful length. In almost all cells this gene is turned off early in development, rendered permanently inactive in an event that commits that cell to eventual sure death. This sad decision is a very necessary one, as it protects the adult human body from developing tumors whenever a cell's division controls are disabled. Only when this added protection against runaway growth is also lost, the switch stopping production of telomerase turned back "ON," can a cell proceed beyond a few divisions and become a cancer cell. Cancer cells are immortal because they produce telomerase.

In the human body, only two kinds of body cells are immortal, able to divide without limit. Cancer cells are one. The other kind of immortal cell is the embryonic stem cell.

[link to txtwriter.com]


"Embryonic stem cells, as their name suggests, are derived from embryos. Most embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body."
[link to stemcells.nih.gov]


There's something fascinating and yet disgusting about these immortal cells scientists have been using for decades now from the famous HeLa cells;
A HeLa cell (also Hela or hela cell) is a cell type in an immortal cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest and most commonly used human cell line.[1] The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks, a patient who eventually died of her cancer on October 4, 1951. The cell line was found to be remarkably durable and prolific as illustrated by its contamination of many other cell lines used in research.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


to being able to order frozen immortal cancer cells online;

[link to www.atcc.org]

In society cancer, like nuclear radiation, is seen to be scary, frightening and something people never should discuss out of fear of getting it or something ridiculous and there isn't much out there in the way of public information as to the nature of cancer itself.

There's a lot of money going into cancer research and no one has managed "cure" it but maybe that is not the goal.
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3758944


Researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), through a combination of time-lapse live imaging and mathematical modeling of a special line of human breast cells, have found evidence to suggest that for low dose levels of ionizing radiation, cancer risks may not be directly proportional to dose. This contradicts the standard model for predicting biological damage from ionizing radiation - the linear-no-threshold hypothesis or LNT - which holds that risk is directly proportional to dose at all levels of irradiation.

"Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses," says Mina Bissell, a world-renowned breast cancer researcher with Berkeley Lab's Life Sciences Division. "This non-linear DNA damage response casts doubt on the general assumption that any amount of ionizing radiation is harmful and additive."

[link to medicalxpress.com]

If you take this new finding into consideration, higher doses of ionizing radiation actually help DNA repair but large doses can cause much damage and with every repair, their is a chance that something goes wrong and the process is somehow disrupted and causes cancer.

Are there people out there who are trying to use cancer to become immortal? Sounds like a bad hollywood movie.
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Thanks, getting bored of the same old crap being posted here, so I thought I'd introduce something new and interesting. I only found out about the HeLa cells from a pinned post here and looked into it, there is much research going into cancer but not for the reasons people believe. Next time you donate to a cancer foundation wouldn't you like to know if that is going to research for curing cancer rather than making some rich old guy immortal?
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
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Researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), through a combination of time-lapse live imaging and mathematical modeling of a special line of human breast cells, have found evidence to suggest that for low dose levels of ionizing radiation, cancer risks may not be directly proportional to dose. This contradicts the standard model for predicting biological damage from ionizing radiation - the linear-no-threshold hypothesis or LNT - which holds that risk is directly proportional to dose at all levels of irradiation.

"Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses," says Mina Bissell, a world-renowned breast cancer researcher with Berkeley Lab's Life Sciences Division. "This non-linear DNA damage response casts doubt on the general assumption that any amount of ionizing radiation is harmful and additive."

[link to medicalxpress.com]

If you take this new finding into consideration, higher doses of ionizing radiation actually help DNA repair but large doses can cause much damage and with every repair, their is a chance that something goes wrong and the process is somehow disrupted and causes cancer.

Are there people out there who are trying to use cancer to become immortal? Sounds like a bad hollywood movie.
 Quoting: Plasmare


This would explain how modern treatments contribute to cancer growth..

If only the thing that makes cancer so incessant could be combined with the good things about stem cells..your premiss is a good one!
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What if cancer research was not about curing cancer but to figure out how to use cancer to become immortal?

So how were scientists able to make cells immortal? The secret to producing cell immortality lay in their realizing that all cells possess a gene, known as the telomerase gene, which can add DNA back to the tip of telomeres, restoring them to their original youthful length. In almost all cells this gene is turned off early in development, rendered permanently inactive in an event that commits that cell to eventual sure death. This sad decision is a very necessary one, as it protects the adult human body from developing tumors whenever a cell's division controls are disabled. Only when this added protection against runaway growth is also lost, the switch stopping production of telomerase turned back "ON," can a cell proceed beyond a few divisions and become a cancer cell. Cancer cells are immortal because they produce telomerase.

In the human body, only two kinds of body cells are immortal, able to divide without limit. Cancer cells are one. The other kind of immortal cell is the embryonic stem cell.

[link to txtwriter.com]


"Embryonic stem cells, as their name suggests, are derived from embryos. Most embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body."
[link to stemcells.nih.gov]


There's something fascinating and yet disgusting about these immortal cells scientists have been using for decades now from the famous HeLa cells;
A HeLa cell (also Hela or hela cell) is a cell type in an immortal cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest and most commonly used human cell line.[1] The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks, a patient who eventually died of her cancer on October 4, 1951. The cell line was found to be remarkably durable and prolific as illustrated by its contamination of many other cell lines used in research.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


to being able to order frozen immortal cancer cells online;

[link to www.atcc.org]

In society cancer, like nuclear radiation, is seen to be scary, frightening and something people never should discuss out of fear of getting it or something ridiculous and there isn't much out there in the way of public information as to the nature of cancer itself.

There's a lot of money going into cancer research and no one has managed "cure" it but maybe that is not the goal.
 Quoting: Plasmare


Human cells perform apoptosis (cell suicide) as an evolutionary response to cancer. Cancers infect cells and use them to reproduce. Cells only have a certain number of copies they can make in order to limit the ability for cancer to spread too rapidly. I've always found this interesting and thought we have always been SO close to immortality without knowing it.

These links are very interesting... thanks for the post, OP!
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3758944


Researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), through a combination of time-lapse live imaging and mathematical modeling of a special line of human breast cells, have found evidence to suggest that for low dose levels of ionizing radiation, cancer risks may not be directly proportional to dose. This contradicts the standard model for predicting biological damage from ionizing radiation - the linear-no-threshold hypothesis or LNT - which holds that risk is directly proportional to dose at all levels of irradiation.

"Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses," says Mina Bissell, a world-renowned breast cancer researcher with Berkeley Lab's Life Sciences Division. "This non-linear DNA damage response casts doubt on the general assumption that any amount of ionizing radiation is harmful and additive."

[link to medicalxpress.com]

If you take this new finding into consideration, higher doses of ionizing radiation actually help DNA repair but large doses can cause much damage and with every repair, their is a chance that something goes wrong and the process is somehow disrupted and causes cancer.

Are there people out there who are trying to use cancer to become immortal? Sounds like a bad hollywood movie.
 Quoting: Plasmare


This would explain how modern treatments contribute to cancer growth..

If only the thing that makes cancer so incessant could be combined with the good things about stem cells..your premiss is a good one!
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Cancer and semen, sounds more like a rock band title.
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What if cancer research was not about curing cancer but to figure out how to use cancer to become immortal?

So how were scientists able to make cells immortal? The secret to producing cell immortality lay in their realizing that all cells possess a gene, known as the telomerase gene, which can add DNA back to the tip of telomeres, restoring them to their original youthful length. In almost all cells this gene is turned off early in development, rendered permanently inactive in an event that commits that cell to eventual sure death. This sad decision is a very necessary one, as it protects the adult human body from developing tumors whenever a cell's division controls are disabled. Only when this added protection against runaway growth is also lost, the switch stopping production of telomerase turned back "ON," can a cell proceed beyond a few divisions and become a cancer cell. Cancer cells are immortal because they produce telomerase.

In the human body, only two kinds of body cells are immortal, able to divide without limit. Cancer cells are one. The other kind of immortal cell is the embryonic stem cell.

[link to txtwriter.com]


"Embryonic stem cells, as their name suggests, are derived from embryos. Most embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body."
[link to stemcells.nih.gov]


There's something fascinating and yet disgusting about these immortal cells scientists have been using for decades now from the famous HeLa cells;
A HeLa cell (also Hela or hela cell) is a cell type in an immortal cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest and most commonly used human cell line.[1] The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks, a patient who eventually died of her cancer on October 4, 1951. The cell line was found to be remarkably durable and prolific as illustrated by its contamination of many other cell lines used in research.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


to being able to order frozen immortal cancer cells online;

[link to www.atcc.org]

In society cancer, like nuclear radiation, is seen to be scary, frightening and something people never should discuss out of fear of getting it or something ridiculous and there isn't much out there in the way of public information as to the nature of cancer itself.

There's a lot of money going into cancer research and no one has managed "cure" it but maybe that is not the goal.
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What if cancer research was not about curing cancer but to figure out how to use cancer to become immortal?

So how were scientists able to make cells immortal? The secret to producing cell immortality lay in their realizing that all cells possess a gene, known as the telomerase gene, which can add DNA back to the tip of telomeres, restoring them to their original youthful length. In almost all cells this gene is turned off early in development, rendered permanently inactive in an event that commits that cell to eventual sure death. This sad decision is a very necessary one, as it protects the adult human body from developing tumors whenever a cell's division controls are disabled. Only when this added protection against runaway growth is also lost, the switch stopping production of telomerase turned back "ON," can a cell proceed beyond a few divisions and become a cancer cell. Cancer cells are immortal because they produce telomerase.

In the human body, only two kinds of body cells are immortal, able to divide without limit. Cancer cells are one. The other kind of immortal cell is the embryonic stem cell.

[link to txtwriter.com]


"Embryonic stem cells, as their name suggests, are derived from embryos. Most embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body."
[link to stemcells.nih.gov]


There's something fascinating and yet disgusting about these immortal cells scientists have been using for decades now from the famous HeLa cells;
A HeLa cell (also Hela or hela cell) is a cell type in an immortal cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest and most commonly used human cell line.[1] The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks, a patient who eventually died of her cancer on October 4, 1951. The cell line was found to be remarkably durable and prolific as illustrated by its contamination of many other cell lines used in research.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


to being able to order frozen immortal cancer cells online;

[link to www.atcc.org]

In society cancer, like nuclear radiation, is seen to be scary, frightening and something people never should discuss out of fear of getting it or something ridiculous and there isn't much out there in the way of public information as to the nature of cancer itself.

There's a lot of money going into cancer research and no one has managed "cure" it but maybe that is not the goal.
 Quoting: Plasmare


Human cells perform apoptosis (cell suicide) as an evolutionary response to cancer. Cancers infect cells and use them to reproduce. Cells only have a certain number of copies they can make in order to limit the ability for cancer to spread too rapidly. I've always found this interesting and thought we have always been SO close to immortality without knowing it.

These links are very interesting... thanks for the post, OP!
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Human cells perform apoptosis (cell suicide) as an evolutionary response to cancer.

death is lifes answer to cancer/immortality

death is the only answer to limitless finite cell reproduction
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if you search back you will find one of my threads from years ago talking about this.
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It may be feasible to use our understanding of cancer cells to extend human life (not so sure about absolute mortality). In any case, researchers rightfully question whether this should be done. Think about it. If humans become immortal, the humans themselves become like cancer cells on the body of our planet or throughout the part of the universe we would be capable of inhabiting. In order to continue to live, humans still will require resources and will be a drain on the ecosystem in which they reside that will eventually lead to the death of that ecosystem (whether it be Earth, our solar system, galaxy, whatever). Pull back from your narcissistic view of yourself and your species for a minute and think about how the universe itself would be endangered by physical immortality of any species. Humans cannot and should not physically live forever. The consequences would be far reaching and horrible, perhaps leading the destruction of all creation.
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Even though I'm a great fan of this, you are treading a very fine line. You would have to maintain the patterns established after fetal development i.e. your neural network and differentiation. If immortality was ever achieved using cancer, I'd imagine it would be like The Doctor regenerating without the sfx but over a few years stuck in a biovat rather than a few seconds.
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One day, they will be able to trigger that switch with electro magnetics.

Turn it on, heal the area, turn it off, pay the bill and go home.
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One day, they will be able to trigger that switch with electro magnetics.

Turn it on, heal the area, turn it off, pay the bill and go home.
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IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
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IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873



THE CONDITIONS THAT DEFINE 3 DIMESIONAL...

WHICH ARE CONDUCIVE TO PERFECTION...

WHY???

3 DIMENSIONAL SPACE IS ABSOULUTE...

OR "THE TRUTH"!!!
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IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873



THE CONDITIONS THAT DEFINE 3 DIMESIONAL...

WHICH ARE CONDUCIVE TO PERFECTION...

WHY???

3 DIMENSIONAL SPACE IS ABSOULUTE...

OR "THE TRUTH"!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873


SO, WHAT HAS CHANGED???

IF, YOU SAY YOUR OWN TRUTH IS "THE TRUTH"...

THEN, YOU GET CANCER AND DIE!!!

IF, YOU SAY YOUR TRUTH IS DEAD...

AND ACCEPT "THE TRUTH"....

THEN YOU LIVE FOR EVER!!!

IT, IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
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IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873



THE CONDITIONS THAT DEFINE 3 DIMESIONAL...

WHICH ARE CONDUCIVE TO PERFECTION...

WHY???

3 DIMENSIONAL SPACE IS ABSOULUTE...

OR "THE TRUTH"!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873


SO, WHAT HAS CHANGED???

IF, YOU SAY YOUR OWN TRUTH IS "THE TRUTH"...

THEN, YOU GET CANCER AND DIE!!!

IF, YOU SAY YOUR TRUTH IS DEAD...

AND ACCEPT "THE TRUTH"....

THEN YOU LIVE FOR EVER!!!

IT, IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44356873



YOUR OWN TRUTH CAN NOT EXSIT IN THE SPACE...

YOU WERE BORN IN...

THEREFORE YOU DIE!!!

ACCEPT "THE TRUTH"...

AND HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE!!!
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Hmm interesting!
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3758944


Researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), through a combination of time-lapse live imaging and mathematical modeling of a special line of human breast cells, have found evidence to suggest that for low dose levels of ionizing radiation, cancer risks may not be directly proportional to dose. This contradicts the standard model for predicting biological damage from ionizing radiation - the linear-no-threshold hypothesis or LNT - which holds that risk is directly proportional to dose at all levels of irradiation.

"Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses," says Mina Bissell, a world-renowned breast cancer researcher with Berkeley Lab's Life Sciences Division. "This non-linear DNA damage response casts doubt on the general assumption that any amount of ionizing radiation is harmful and additive."

[link to medicalxpress.com]

If you take this new finding into consideration, higher doses of ionizing radiation actually help DNA repair but large doses can cause much damage and with every repair, their is a chance that something goes wrong and the process is somehow disrupted and causes cancer.

Are there people out there who are trying to use cancer to become immortal? Sounds like a bad hollywood movie.
 Quoting: Plasmare


Thank you for explaining in layman's terms what it really means.

It makes so much more sense now, as to why organic Solar rays (radiation) are beneficial, but mad scientist tried to replicate "it", the inorganic radiation) and, instead created cancer, a monster.
Looking at the way the Sun is behaving, it is clear that we are in the middle of a Solar Maximum :)

DEF BUMB!
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Jellyfish...the key to immortality...

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"Turritopsis nutricula is a small (5 millimeters (0.20 in)) species of jellyfish that uses transdifferentiation to replenish cells after sexual reproduction. This cycle can repeat indefinitely, potentially rendering it biologically immortal. It originated from the Caribbean sea, but has now spread around the world."

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you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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It may be feasible to use our understanding of cancer cells to extend human life (not so sure about absolute mortality). In any case, researchers rightfully question whether this should be done. Think about it. If humans become immortal, the humans themselves become like cancer cells on the body of our planet or throughout the part of the universe we would be capable of inhabiting. In order to continue to live, humans still will require resources and will be a drain on the ecosystem in which they reside that will eventually lead to the death of that ecosystem (whether it be Earth, our solar system, galaxy, whatever). Pull back from your narcissistic view of yourself and your species for a minute and think about how the universe itself would be endangered by physical immortality of any species. Humans cannot and should not physically live forever. The consequences would be far reaching and horrible, perhaps leading the destruction of all creation.
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That's why you have to pass God's test here on earth before you receive immortality. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
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If we could get around the need for some bodily systems to work as intended this would make perfect sense

Make a cancer to infuse the blood with oxygen and remove waste is one example

one fault/characteristic of cancer is unchecked growth

otherwise sounds good op
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Researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), through a combination of time-lapse live imaging and mathematical modeling of a special line of human breast cells, have found evidence to suggest that for low dose levels of ionizing radiation, cancer risks may not be directly proportional to dose. This contradicts the standard model for predicting biological damage from ionizing radiation - the linear-no-threshold hypothesis or LNT - which holds that risk is directly proportional to dose at all levels of irradiation.

"Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses," says Mina Bissell, a world-renowned breast cancer researcher with Berkeley Lab's Life Sciences Division. "This non-linear DNA damage response casts doubt on the general assumption that any amount of ionizing radiation is harmful and additive."

[link to medicalxpress.com]

If you take this new finding into consideration, higher doses of ionizing radiation actually help DNA repair but large doses can cause much damage and with every repair, their is a chance that something goes wrong and the process is somehow disrupted and causes cancer.

Are there people out there who are trying to use cancer to become immortal? Sounds like a bad hollywood movie.
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And there are zombies in it. Immortal Cancer Zombies. If you cut off their head, it just grows back. Sometimes it doesn't wait to be cut off... the zombies will grow multiple heads ;P

Seriously - the experimentation with cancer, radiation, and other "tweaks" to human DNA are pretty scary... this deserves a
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07/31/2013 10:26 AM
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
There was a thread a couple of weeks ago linking the growth of the DNA telomeres in relationship to eating. Studies showed that skipping one meal a day caused them to lengthen. Thus prolonging the life of the cell, hence the individual.
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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