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Symptoms Similar To Radiation Poisoning Killing Seals/Walruses - Russia, Alaska, Canada - Scientists Fear Could Be Infecting Entire Ocean

 
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Only now remnants of the debris from Fukishima has started to float onto beaches on the east coast and canada.

However, the notion that there might be a weaker magnetic field in the poles might be a credible possibility...
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bodies will be coming soon...
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Only now remnants of the debris from Fukishima has started to float onto beaches on the east coast and canada.

However, the notion that there might be a weaker magnetic field in the poles might be a credible possibility...
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bodies will be coming soon...
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"The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared a recent rash of seal deaths to be an "unusual mortality event" on Tuesday. More than 60 seals have died and 75 found diseased in Alaska with skin sores and patchy hair loss. The Fish and Wildlife Service has also identified diseased and dead walruses."

"In most cases, necropsies and lab tests have revealed skin lesions, fluid in the lungs, white spots on the liver, and abnormal growths in the brain. Some of the seals and walruses have undersized lymph nodes, possibly a sign of weakened immuned systems."



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"A mysterious and potentially widespread disease is thought to have contributed to the deaths of dozens of ringed seals along Alaska's Arctic coast. Scores more are sickened, some so ill that skin lesions bleed when touched. The animals are an important subsistence food, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has proposed listing them as threatened or endangered under the Endangered Species Act."

""Right now we're leaning toward it being a virus, and that could weaken their immune system,""

"Reports of nearly 150 other seals with the illness have come in from villages outside Barrow, population 4,200, as well as from Chukotka, Russia, and Tuktoyuktak, a village on the northwestern corner of Canada, Herreman said."

"He's concerned the illness will spread up the food chain, affecting other animals and hunters near Kotzebue Sound."

""I'm scared they might pass it on one way or another and the whole ocean could be affected," Shiedt said. Folks in the Barrow region also are worried. Many of the Slope's Inupiat residents are about to begin hunting for seals, and some are wondering if they are safe to eat, Herreman said."

"The sickest ones don't move much on the beaches and they have blisters or wounds that bleed easily, including around the nose, eyes and especially the rear flippers. Others have lost much of their hair. "They're not deathly skinny. It's not like they're dying from malnutrition."
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Why do they always say mysterious. that pisses me off, they will prefer to protect a company then to save people's lives!

people SHOULD NOT BE EATING ANY SEAFOOD FROM THE PACIFIC ANYMORE!

F ING GOVTS DO GIVE A SH*& ABOUT PEOPLE. GOD FORBID THEY TELL THE TRUTH THAT IT IS F ING RADIATION POISONING FROM FU CCCKKKK A HIMA!
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The above should say DO NOT GIVE A SH*& - THE NOT WAS LEFT OUT BY ACCIDENT
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Polar bears WILL die, later, after they feed on the radioactive seals, wjho have fed on the radioactive fish, who fed on the radioactive plankton.
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The radioactive cycle of life...only a matter of time till man receives it on his dinner plate?
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Polar bears WILL die, later, after they feed on the radioactive seals, wjho have fed on the radioactive fish, who fed on the radioactive plankton.
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The radioactive cycle of life...only a matter of time till man receives it on his dinner plate?
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Yes then GE media will report mysterious virus causing decreased immunity and sores on seafood lovers.
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BUILD MORE REACTORS NOW!!!

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i want all the little shills from may to put up their little shill BS flags, and promise to eat seafood till next xmas..... (just think happy thoughts, you'll be fine)

and by the looks of the link below, accumulated radiation is what the people of fukushima are getting for xmas...
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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Polar bears WILL die, later, after they feed on the radioactive seals, wjho have fed on the radioactive fish, who fed on the radioactive plankton.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7577356


The radioactive cycle of life...only a matter of time till man receives it on his dinner plate?
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Yes then GE media will report mysterious virus causing decreased immunity and sores on seafood lovers.
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But attribute it to something unknown or unrelated...great MO right there, say nothing until it is being questioned, then be baffled and point the finger at the organic farmers, brilliant!
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We can't forget about all that mysterious orange goo in Alaska a while back. Seems there were a number of mixed reports as to what the stuff actually was.
Thread: Not eggs, now 1000s of gallons of possibly TOXIC fungal spores! NOAA LIED! Could it be COREXIT/Dyn-O-Mat effecting ecosystem?>>>>>
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Idgits ... Unfortunately, we ARE part of the animal kingdom, and have been subject to NINE months of radiation from air, water and food raised THIS year !

AS low radiation is the greatest danger, because of it's CUMULATIVE DOSAGE, this will SOON be showing up on the youngest ; babies, adalsents , the teens.

Both any of LAST YEARS food for yourselves as I recommended last May/June, grasshoppers ?

NOW, winter is here .....

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There is a world out there that is crying. The bible says that all of creation speaks of God. If the earth is saddened and crying...so is God. If the world is angry...then maybe God is too? The earth is dying...but God won't allow men to destroy what He created. That's why Christians shouldn't buy into global warming reversal crap. This world is heading straight into Christ's prophecies. No hold's barred...
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gotta love this report from a woman in Fukuishima...

she has her teeth rotting, and Dr. told her there was "no-one sick" in her city...

[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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Given the resources and 'diggers' on this site, probably be a good idea to look at ocean currents, fish migrations, seal migrations etc to try and map out where this came from.

Saying it's all Fuka's fault is a cop out. It could be many things, including a rusting graveyard of Russian Nuke vessels in the Kara Sea, a parasitic infection released by melting ice that is thriving on the methane releases of late or even related to BEZERK phenominon.
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Given the resources and 'diggers' on this site, probably be a good idea to look at ocean currents, fish migrations, seal migrations etc to try and map out where this came from.

Saying it's all Fuka's fault is a cop out. It could be many things, including a rusting graveyard of Russian Nuke vessels in the Kara Sea, a parasitic infection released by melting ice that is thriving on the methane releases of late or even related to BEZERK phenominon.
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good idea m8.. hi ho, hi ho... ... lol

be back maybe later
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Given the resources and 'diggers' on this site, probably be a good idea to look at ocean currents, fish migrations, seal migrations etc to try and map out where this came from.

Saying it's all Fuka's fault is a cop out. It could be many things, including a rusting graveyard of Russian Nuke vessels in the Kara Sea, a parasitic infection released by melting ice that is thriving on the methane releases of late or even related to BEZERK phenominon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501341


[link to mapservices.iucnredlist.org]

map of the lion seal populations migratory locations

[link to www.iucnredlist.org]

Mirounga angustirostris : IUCN link on lion seal information

[link to www.accuweather.com]

Ocean currents map off japan showing where the radioctive wastes will flow

[link to sirocco.omp.obs-mip.fr]

maps and models generated for the spread of radionucliotides


you can draw a few conclusions from most of that data alone...

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fucking joke , the bible says 1 3rd of the sea dies ... this is it . just gona get worse and worse ... its a damn shame
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Revelations 8
9 and there died the third part of those creatures that have life in the sea, and the third part of the ships was destroyed.

But it does get worse!

Revelations 16
3 And the second poured out his bowl upon the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every live thing in the sea died.
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On top of that...it feels like spring here in Boston today. Right now the temperature outside is about 55 degrees and feels like 60. That is ridiculous. We have had ONE storm, a nor'easter in OCTOBER. I believe that it will stay warm on and off for awhile, and then suddenly without warning we are going to get SLAMMED. I think New England is looking at one of the worst winters for blizzards in a very long time. Food and fuel trucks will probably have difficulty making deliveries and people are going to panic. It's gonna get messy.

Anybody else have thoughts on these subjects.
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It's similar here in northern California. This is the dryest November & December I can remember, in 30 years living here. It's chilly (40s & 50s) but no a drop of rain or even mist. Just cold and clear every day. Fall is planting season here because of the rainy winter climate, but I've had to break down and start watering things I planted.

Weird.
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The lesions on sea mammals have been reported world wide, including the Atlantic arctic regions. I believe it is Solar radiation leaking though a failing magnetosphere and increased UV output from the Sun,personally. I know Fukashima released a large amount of radioactive material into the ocean, but you have to consider the vastness of the ocean and how diluted it would be when it reached Alaska, not enough to cause this I am afraid.
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We don't even know the true scope of was let into the ocean. All we hear is what they tell us. I believe its a s*it load that we let out into the sea. This will only get worse.
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On top of that...it feels like spring here in Boston today. Right now the temperature outside is about 55 degrees and feels like 60. That is ridiculous. We have had ONE storm, a nor'easter in OCTOBER. I believe that it will stay warm on and off for awhile, and then suddenly without warning we are going to get SLAMMED. I think New England is looking at one of the worst winters for blizzards in a very long time. Food and fuel trucks will probably have difficulty making deliveries and people are going to panic. It's gonna get messy.

Anybody else have thoughts on these subjects.
 Quoting: Idgits


It's similar here in northern California. This is the dryest November & December I can remember, in 30 years living here. It's chilly (40s & 50s) but no a drop of rain or even mist. Just cold and clear every day. Fall is planting season here because of the rainy winter climate, but I've had to break down and start watering things I planted.

Weird.
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interesting, here in QLD, Aus, we recorded the coldest day in december on record earlier this month, it feels like a mild autumn all the time when we aussies should be sweating it out on the beach...
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fucking joke , the bible says 1 3rd of the sea dies ... this is it . just gona get worse and worse ... its a damn shame
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a damn shame, yes indeed

and to think it's just a symptom representative of the patently poor judgment we as a whole have delivered unto the universe in our own regard since our inception upon the face of this planet

this potential paradise which was specifically and lovingly fashioned and manifested entirely in our honor by the Godhead, which also made manifest each of us as individual participants in the magnificence of such a magnanimous Act of Creation

and no I am not speaking for everyone, but those who know and understand exactly what's been done and why clearly know who if not what they are in this regard...

pathetic is also a good definition
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fucking joke , the bible says 1 3rd of the sea dies ... this is it . just gona get worse and worse ... its a damn shame
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a damn shame, yes indeed

and to think it's just a symptom representative of the patently poor judgment we as a whole have delivered unto the universe in our own regard since our inception upon the face of this planet

this potential paradise which was specifically and lovingly fashioned and manifested entirely in our honor by the Godhead, which also made manifest each of us as individual participants in the magnificence of such a magnanimous Act of Creation

and no I am not speaking for everyone, but those who know and understand exactly what's been done and why clearly know who if not what they are in this regard...

pathetic is also a good definition
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.. all thanks to a fuckin' apple.....
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SAD,SAD,SAD, this event is one of the worst things that has happened in my life time... and this is just the beginning. Where the fuck are all these eviormentalist now? I wonder, where the hell is AL at it? Outside of here, I never hear shit about it in the mainstream news,and when I tell people how bad this actually is and what is happening, they look at me as if I just pissed in their coffee. Sorry, I'm just really mad about this and the people I know that are such damn idiot's, Our only hope is to move south of the equator.
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This is so scary. We see the animals being effected first. They don't have an escape. They can't avoid eating radiated food, swimming through radiated water, etc. And...it would make sense that the seals would get noticed first simply because they consume such large amounts of radiated foods.

It won't be long, in my opinion, that we end up seeing many more animals effected...of all types and species.
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Isnt Nuclear energy supposed to be the cleanest though? I love how the few make the decisions for the many.
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Reboot in 1,000 years with a new human species. Sci-fi sez it's a glowing republican.
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fucking joke , the bible says 1 3rd of the sea dies ... this is it . just gona get worse and worse ... its a damn shame
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Revelations 8
9 and there died the third part of those creatures that have life in the sea, and the third part of the ships was destroyed.

But it does get worse!

Revelations 16
3 And the second poured out his bowl upon the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every live thing in the sea died.
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Time to get used to it, everything in the sean and in the waters will die, everything! And now we can see why. Between all the oil spills and fuckashima, add to everything else in the waters we may not need wormwood to get the job done, men are having their way totally.
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Not too long ago 3 killer whales swam up the Nushagak river in SW Alaska, that had never happened, all the elders thought it was a very bad sign. All 3 ended up banking on the shores and died, one was a pregnant female.

I lived out there till not too long ago, some of us are having health problems including nausea and suspicious blood work results. Also tired all the time.
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Disclosure, I'm not a doctor or offering medical advice, this is only my opinion- if it's radiation, your thyroid may be affected. See a doctor. Also, I'm not sure about iodine at this point but they used to recommend putting iodine on your knees. It attracts radiation away from the thyroid gland.
Again, it could have nothing to do with either your thyroid or radiation but have it checked. Good luck to you.
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Great Thread +1000 !
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Given the resources and 'diggers' on this site, probably be a good idea to look at ocean currents, fish migrations, seal migrations etc to try and map out where this came from.

Saying it's all Fuka's fault is a cop out. It could be many things, including a rusting graveyard of Russian Nuke vessels in the Kara Sea, a parasitic infection released by melting ice that is thriving on the methane releases of late or even related to BEZERK phenominon.
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[link to mapservices.iucnredlist.org]

map of the lion seal populations migratory locations

[link to www.iucnredlist.org]

Mirounga angustirostris : IUCN link on lion seal information

[link to www.accuweather.com]

Ocean currents map off japan showing where the radioctive wastes will flow

[link to sirocco.omp.obs-mip.fr]

maps and models generated for the spread of radionucliotides


you can draw a few conclusions from most of that data alone...
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Legend! I've been sorting my own links, but they have been based around the methane issue.

The Kuroshio Current that goes past Japan, a deep water current doesnt link with either of the polar conveyers, so how does the radioactive water/particles get up to the Arctic? If it's fish or plankton based, then I'm not seeing that either, which drives me back to the current methane issue, and what could be thriving off that.

Thanks for taking the time to put up some actual data too!
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I just saw this and was going to post a thread about it, but first searched and found yours.. Good job OP! :)

This is kind of scary.. it's been going on since early October and they still don't know if it is a virus or not? Hmm..
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