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Who created the creator of the universe?

 
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Who created the creator of the universe?
I believe there is a creator who engineered the universe and everything in it. The universe is too complex to have existed by chance. But who created the creator or God. Are there other Gods/engineers who also "manage" other universes that could be out there? Who created these engineers? Who created the one who created the engineers. It goes on an and on.
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12/21/2011 11:40 PM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

He has no creator because he has is the beginning and the end.


All things have come from the one by means of Adaptation.

And they will return to that source, which is eternal.
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12/21/2011 11:45 PM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
The uncreated creating creator creates.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

He has no creator because he has is the beginning and the end.

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Oh Yeah, it's a HE. Sure, that's the ticket. It's got to be a HE fer fuck's sake. Can't think of anything bigger and more important than a HE.

It's not a primal force, no no, it has a dick.

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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
I believe that God is evolving, just like we are.

It created itself by simply deciding to exist.


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12/21/2011 11:53 PM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
THE SOURCE

December 3, 2011

My Friend, my Aime, here is some time of your time, I came to say to you to remember the Oath and the Promise of the return to your Eternity, your Joy and your Truth. My Friend, my Aime, and here is that the time of Unlimited, and here is that the time of your Presence and my Presence appears. I came to say to you, beyond my words, by your Presence and my communicant Presence together, to show you, by the Love and the Vibration, which we are ONE.

The time of the time which was given to you and lived, within limited, becomes Illimité. By the Grace of our Communion, by the Grace of your Presence, the Grace of your Light, which is ours and which is yours. Times, finally accomplished, to live eternal Eternity. Children of the ONE, we are it because I am ONE and you are ONE, because I am All and you are All. Beyond my dires of this day, in the moment of our Communion, condescends to accomodate, as I accomodate you, our Alliance of Fire. The time of the Heart is that which is registered, today, in this time of your time. Time of Truth and time of achievement, where the Joy of our Presence and our resonance comes, my Friend, my Aime, to connect to you to your Infinite, so that never again what was unknown for you that is to say again unknown. The end of limited is not the end because, within my resonance, because within your Presence, there does not exist null end. My Friend, my Aime, comes to live your Truth, beyond any lack, any fear and of any end. My Friend, my Aime, in the Fire of your Heart rises the Joy. My Friend, my Aime, the time of came. One which is not the resolution of the equation of both but well the time of the Joy where all is solution, where all is Beauté.

My Friend, my Aime, you also, like each one, was born unlimited, in the spheres of unlimited Creation, the spheres of the Life. My Friend, my Aime, our Gift common is called the Light, that which Vibre, now, in each one of your cells, each one of your bodies, here and elsewhere, so that no one elsewhere is not private Ici. My Friend, my Aime, time of Freedom. I come in you because, forever, I am you, because forever I am ONE and you Es ONE. My Friend, my Aime, my Angels and Archangels, who are hold them, opened the Doors with your Eternity. My Friend, my Aime, in the time of the Joy, we live the achievement. Saturate yourself with my Joy which east holds. Saturate yourself with the Light which is ours.

In the Temple of which you are, there is not no space for the vacuum, no space for the lack because you are Plenitude, as well as any Life and which any Conscience who are not other than you and than me. My Friend, my Aime, in the time of this moment, communions with the Grace of our Presence. Infinite time when no time cannot be finished, where no Présence is not locked up, where no Conscience is not limited. My Friend, my Aime, I accomplished what you achieved in the Temple of your Presence. Join what you are, beyond appearances, in order to Être the direction of our Presence.



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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
I believe God is eternal, hence never having a beginning, always was there? It is something that is currently beyond my comprehension I suposse.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
I believe there is a creator who engineered the universe and everything in it. The universe is too complex to have existed by chance. But who created the creator or God. Are there other Gods/engineers who also "manage" other universes that could be out there? Who created these engineers? Who created the one who created the engineers. It goes on an and on.
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It may not even be that way atal. Like a complete illogical senario. It maybe a different answer completely that if your were told you would be like that is simple.
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12/22/2011 12:04 AM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

He has no creator because he has is the beginning and the end.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7340804



Oh Yeah, it's a HE. Sure, that's the ticket. It's got to be a HE fer fuck's sake. Can't think of anything bigger and more important than a HE.

It's not a primal force, no no, it has a dick.

5a
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clappa

Hilarious!!! Whenever I see someone refer to The Source of all Creation as a "HE" I know they have no concept of what "creation" is all about; let alone the concept that "creation" is on going.

Yes!!!! GOD HAS A DICK!!!! GOD IS MALE!!!!! GO, MAN GO!!!!
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
According to the North Korean news Media...Kim Jong Il.

his death...which probably isn't permanent...generated a series of spectacular natural phenomena including:

1. creating a mysterious glow atop Mt. Paektu,
2. cracking a sheet of ice on a lake with a loud roar
3. inspiring a crane to circle a statue of the nation's founder before perching in a tree and drooping its head in sorrow.

hope this helps in clearing things up.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
The universe is too complex
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Is it?

Seems pretty simple to me.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7340804


Ummm time is not an actual thing that exists in the universe.

It is something man created.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world.
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12/22/2011 12:10 AM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
ah the age old question
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

He has no creator because he has is the beginning and the end.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7340804



Oh Yeah, it's a HE. Sure, that's the ticket. It's got to be a HE fer fuck's sake. Can't think of anything bigger and more important than a HE.

It's not a primal force, no no, it has a dick.

5a
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302005


FFS putin

It didn't take long for some metrosexual atheisTard to get sand in his well groomed mangina.

redface
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12/22/2011 12:15 AM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
The universe is too complex
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Is it?

Seems pretty simple to me.
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is that so?

have you ever taken a really good look at a snowflake?
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

He has no creator because he has is the beginning and the end.


All things have come from the one by means of Adaptation.

And they will return to that source, which is eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7340804


The uncreated creating creator creates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7528127


Well said boys, well said.

clappa
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12/22/2011 12:18 AM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
The creator has no beginning. We don't have the mind to comprehend such a thing puny human
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12/22/2011 12:18 AM
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
the wheel without an edge

the clock without hands

the unhollow cup

the 1 foot inch



if the answer to a complex universe is a creator, wouldn't that creator be FAR more complex, thus requiring another creator?

its a basic argument against an external creator.

watchmakers have parents. and so do the parents. AND SO ON.

UNLESs.... it all somehow unfolded from a single 1d point, which bloomed as the reflection of nothingness, with both contained in ... oh wait, we've already done nothing...it must be contained in EVERYTHING... and then nothing blooms as an unfolding 1d point, the reflection of everything. ETC ETC ETC ETC

the answer to everything is infinity.

god has no edges.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
is that so?

have you ever taken a really good look at a snowflake?
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Yep.
What is so complex about it?
Nice patterns, but nothing out of this world.

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Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
He is the Alpha and Omega

That means he is beyond time.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7340804


Ummm time is not an actual thing that exists in the universe.

It is something man created.
 Quoting: Scubaseven2



No, time is a dimension.


Time is not some made up idea by humans, It does actually exist.

Time does pass, everything is moving in time from the past to the future.


That is the definition of a Dimension.

The ability to move in a direction.

We know about the other spacial dimensions which are up down, side to side and back and forth.

Time is the 4th dimension. It is linked to space.

That is why they call it Space-Time.

You dont understand time if you think its a man made concept.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
saying time is a dimension means nothing

thats like saying we can measure how long north is.

space and time are one thing (possibly all dimensions are one thing, like a mirror ball has many facets).

time is a measure of movement relative to an observer.
space is a measure of movement relative to an observer.

its like looking at a cube from different sides.

time is different for every particle in the universe... because each is in a different location

time is not a 'thing'.
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You dont understand time if you think its a man made concept.
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Why then does time on earth and time in space have diff properties?

lol, at you thinking anything that is man-made, is not man made.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
time is not a 'thing'.
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This.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
You know where to look for the answers?

We are told about God the Creator that he is the Alpha and the Omega, that is the beginning and the end.

That is all we know about that.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
we are also told harry potter has a scar on his head.

you do realise the bible was just people writing their thoughts about god down? do you ever wonder why the bible ended? why did they stop writing it? it was collected writings at a certain point made into a book, and then made 'sacred'. In reality, it is still being written. What that means is up to you. LITERALLY.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
Think about it....we could be a paradox a product of our own invention.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
That which is mistakenly and sometimes named as god
is infinitely ignorant of it's own being
it is with out reflection.
it is with out birth and so is with out death
the divine being "simply is" boundless infinity

neither beginning and neither ending
and so has no creator.


P.S ...and is also with out gender ...yoda
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
God created: time, space and matter. God existed before time as we know it.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
Before creation
God hovered over the waters
and was reflected therein

Work that shit out.
Another public service announcement from the Southern Hemisphere Information Leveraging Locus.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
we live the story that was written by those who came before
we write the story for those who will come afterwards

what do you believe that YOU have discovered?

If you were to wipe out everything that you have been told... what do you believe? You are writing history for future generations... what are you going to tell them?

What are YOU going to write about God? What has God told YOU personally?

The authors of the past were writing what God was telling them... why did we stop making the bible? and who enforced this? it certainly wasn't god...

REALITY is the bible. Saying a couple of inch thick human book is 'inspired by god' and his manual for humans is selling reality short. ALL OF REALITY is inspired by god, if not god him/her/itself (which cancels out the equation meaning that 'god' has no meaning as such)

I mean look what the US says about other countries... of course a tiny tribe of desert dwelling nomads is going to write down some pretty crazy stuff aboout the people around them... it's what people do! Yeah.. they rape goats, burn babies and worship bulls. And have butt sex ALL THE TIME. I mean ... seriously? Half of the world today actually believes and lives by this stuff from a time when information travelled at a maximum of 10km/hr via oral transmission?

It's a 4000 year long game of chinese whispers... with everyone firmly believing the wave of crap we are surfing...

history belongs to the victors... or the people with the best parchment.
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Re: Who created the creator of the universe?
we are also told harry potter has a scar on his head.

you do realise the bible was just people writing their thoughts about god down? do you ever wonder why the bible ended? why did they stop writing it? it was collected writings at a certain point made into a book, and then made 'sacred'. In reality, it is still being written. What that means is up to you. LITERALLY.
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well said

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