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Police going door-to-door entering homes with the help of locksmiths in order to turn off gas! | |
| jim User ID: 7566935  United States12/22/2011 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, this is UNACCEPTABLE, CRIMINAL behavior on the part of any policeman, and any locksmith, who would enter private homes without a warrant, without the owner's permission. Can you say Obama ? Lol, your one house will slow the fix. They are not searching your house, they are going into your basement! Suck it up, that's why the officers go in the house with the worker. |
BBQ Guy  User ID: 1281368 United States12/22/2011 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Invest in a wood stove "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
| billy User ID: 7566935 United States12/22/2011 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, this is UNACCEPTABLE, CRIMINAL behavior on the part of any policeman, and any locksmith, who would enter private homes without a warrant, without the owner's permission. Can you say Obama ? Obama??? Haha your a clown. If they wanted to, they can dig up your service in the street, cut it off and cap it. Then YOU won't have any gas at all because your a moron. They have officers going inside with them, they are not in your house searching for illegal things, they need to get to your basement. |
| Dease User ID: 1505901 United States12/23/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on Drudge... Quoting: Laura Bow WESTERLY, R.I. (WPRI/AP) - National Grid says crews are going to door-to-door in Westerly to close off the natural gas meters of 1,600 customers as it works on a distribution problem. Utility spokesman David Graves says crews worked through the night and had secured about 800 meters by about 7 a.m. Main Street and Canal Street are among the areas affected. Not only are those streets filled with homeowners, but businesses are also impacted by the issue. "It’s going to be devastating to be without heat or power for this holiday season. It’s our crunch, time," said Molly Silva, a business owner. If no one is home at the time, police officers along with a locksmith are entering homes to shut the valves off. More at [link to www.wpri.com] Um, who has gas meters inside their home? Mine is outside where the meter reader and walk up and see it... Mine too!!! Most people's meters ARE outside. It sounds like they're looking for something.... "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
| MrObserver User ID: 947555 United States12/23/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have never seen a gas appliance that did not have a thermocouple that if the pilot light goes out it automatically shuts the gas off. So your thinking does not hold water. Also every house has a pressure regulator to bring the pressure down to about ½ a pound going into the house so again it does not add up. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776713 United States12/23/2011 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on Drudge... Quoting: Laura Bow WESTERLY, R.I. (WPRI/AP) - National Grid says crews are going to door-to-door in Westerly to close off the natural gas meters of 1,600 customers as it works on a distribution problem. Utility spokesman David Graves says crews worked through the night and had secured about 800 meters by about 7 a.m. Main Street and Canal Street are among the areas affected. Not only are those streets filled with homeowners, but businesses are also impacted by the issue. "It’s going to be devastating to be without heat or power for this holiday season. It’s our crunch, time," said Molly Silva, a business owner. If no one is home at the time, police officers along with a locksmith are entering homes to shut the valves off. More at [link to www.wpri.com] Um, who has gas meters inside their home? Mine is outside where the meter reader and walk up and see it...  Gas Valves nuts of the numby variety, gas valves.  Yes and just before the meter is .... the valve. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7494133 United States12/23/2011 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have never seen a gas appliance that did not have a thermocouple that if the pilot light goes out it automatically shuts the gas off. Quoting: MrObserver So your thinking does not hold water. Also every house has a pressure regulator to bring the pressure down to about ½ a pound going into the house so again it does not add up. My mom had one and I just got rid of one about a year ago. My cookstove. Pilot goes out, house smells of gas. I actually don't like the new stoves out on the market. These electronic ignitors suck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7530631  Australia12/23/2011 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to get the air out of the main, and to do that they purge It with nitrogen. The pressure will be greater than what the normal gas pressure is so they can't have that pass through your meters and appliances. And when gas pressure is low or gone the pilot flame will get real low or no flame at all, so when you turn the gas back on the pilot won't burn the gas and the gas will go right into the house. You never shut gas off and turn it back on because of that reason. And your appliance pilot safety will break after 14psi Quoting: mike 7566935 So if you didn't shut it off, the nitrogen would go through the meter, and the customer would have to PAY FOR AIR!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1136268 United States12/23/2011 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so cool because now if the police see anything out in plain view like for example a bag of weed or you didn't answer the knock at the door because you were laying on the couch getting baked they can arrest you without a search warrant. How convenient! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1543814  United Kingdom12/23/2011 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if the problem is water in gas main? If they shut off all properties at the source this would stop any water getting into peoples appliance. As one person said about thermocouples. it is possible that these fail and they do on a regular occasion, if a thermocouple had failed when the gas was shut off, when the gas comes back on that appliance will leak gas, which the homeowner will be responsible for paying for the gas 'leaked' Im sure you wouldnt want that as the appliance was working just fine before they turned off the gas. What if that appliance had a bigger fault and a gas leak and there was an explosion thus flatterning a house. The whole ethos in Gas training is making sure the 'what ifs' dont happen. Its GAS not the TSA or TPBT. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7539836  Canada12/23/2011 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The meters are outside but the shut off is inside, usualy in the basement or crawlspace. Sounds like they need to do a high pressure test on that line at some point. If they leave the residential lines open when they do that you'll have busted lines in every house on the block, explosions and dead residents from inhaling gas. The flexible 1/2 inch copper line running from the steel line to the stove can't take but a fraction of the pressure the main line running under the street can. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6768621 United States12/23/2011 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, this is UNACCEPTABLE, CRIMINAL behavior on the part of any policeman, and any locksmith, who would enter private homes without a warrant, without the owner's permission. Can you say Obama ? Obama has nothing to do with this Podunk town, imbecile.. You fuckers are really grasping at straws.. I suppose I should get used to it.. You'll be bitching for another 5 years when he is reelected...  |
| Children of the Atom User ID: 6289470 United States12/23/2011 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, this is UNACCEPTABLE, CRIMINAL behavior on the part of any policeman, and any locksmith, who would enter private homes without a warrant, without the owner's permission. Can you say Obama ? Obama has nothing to do with this Podunk town, imbecile.. You fuckers are really grasping at straws.. I suppose I should get used to it.. You'll be bitching for another 5 years when he is reelected... |
| Blue Skies User ID: 1337548 United States12/23/2011 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7330165 Canada12/23/2011 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on Drudge... Quoting: Laura Bow WESTERLY, R.I. (WPRI/AP) - National Grid says crews are going to door-to-door in Westerly to close off the natural gas meters of 1,600 customers as it works on a distribution problem. Utility spokesman David Graves says crews worked through the night and had secured about 800 meters by about 7 a.m. Main Street and Canal Street are among the areas affected. Not only are those streets filled with homeowners, but businesses are also impacted by the issue. "It’s going to be devastating to be without heat or power for this holiday season. It’s our crunch, time," said Molly Silva, a business owner. If no one is home at the time, police officers along with a locksmith are entering homes to shut the valves off. More at [link to www.wpri.com] Um, who has gas meters inside their home? Mine is outside where the meter reader and walk up and see it... Wow, good point. We don't have gas here so I would be unfamiliar where the valves are located. Water, gas, electric are all outside so the meter readers can walk up and record the numbers...I've never seen a meter inside someone's home...even apartments have all the meters lined up outside, like they do the mailboxes. IN Caanda, a lot of the older houses have gas meters inside. Mind does, and is well over 100 years old. Must be the same there. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6694008 United States12/23/2011 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several years ago there was a gas leak on my street. The gas co. guy had to come into my basement and shut off the boiler. I had to come home from work to let him in. He wouldn't come in with just my teenaged kids at home, I had to let him in. This was in New Jersey. When I asked why they couldn't just go in to shut it off, they said they had to have a homeowner to let them in. |
| Blue Skies User ID: 1337548 United States12/23/2011 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several years ago there was a gas leak on my street. The gas co. guy had to come into my basement and shut off the boiler. I had to come home from work to let him in. He wouldn't come in with just my teenaged kids at home, I had to let him in. This was in New Jersey. When I asked why they couldn't just go in to shut it off, they said they had to have a homeowner to let them in. Quoting: INK1 That's why it makes me think something was very wrong. For them to have to get to police and a locksmith to let them into homes, where the homeowners could not be contacted. If I lived there......I would want to know how big the problem was. If they wouldn't say.......Then what where they hiding. Last Edited by Blue Skies on 12/23/2011 06:54 AM :kitten on fence: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5359846  Italy12/23/2011 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7445872 United States12/23/2011 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on Drudge... Quoting: Laura Bow WESTERLY, R.I. (WPRI/AP) - National Grid says crews are going to door-to-door in Westerly to close off the natural gas meters of 1,600 customers as it works on a distribution problem. Utility spokesman David Graves says crews worked through the night and had secured about 800 meters by about 7 a.m. Main Street and Canal Street are among the areas affected. Not only are those streets filled with homeowners, but businesses are also impacted by the issue. "It’s going to be devastating to be without heat or power for this holiday season. It’s our crunch, time," said Molly Silva, a business owner. If no one is home at the time, police officers along with a locksmith are entering homes to shut the valves off. More at [link to www.wpri.com] Um, who has gas meters inside their home? Mine is outside where the meter reader and walk up and see it... exactly bullshit cover story |
| ag User ID: 7596922 United States12/23/2011 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to get the air out of the main, and to do that they purge It with nitrogen. The pressure will be greater than what the normal gas pressure is so they can't have that pass through your meters and appliances. And when gas pressure is low or gone the pilot flame will get real low or no flame at all, so when you turn the gas back on the pilot won't burn the gas and the gas will go right into the house. You never shut gas off and turn it back on because of that reason. And your appliance pilot safety will break after 14psi Quoting: mike 7566935 So if you didn't shut it off, the nitrogen would go through the meter, and the customer would have to PAY FOR AIR!!!! Haha no. If anyone would read what I said then everyone would understand. Air got into the gas main. They had to locate where the air is coming in, fix it, purge the main with nirogen to get the air out of the main. If you don't shut off the meters, the pressure from the nitrogen is gonna BREAK your appliances and when that happens the pilot safety pushes the wrong way and it will not stop the flow of gas and its gonna build up in your house. When we install a new main, we have to replace all the services. Whenever we do a service to the house, we HAVE to shut the valve off and disconnect the meter to make sure the air (which the psi in the test is a lot greater than the gas that goes into your house) doesn't go through the meters and into your appliances. Meters and appliances are regulated for a certain psi |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4223040 United States12/23/2011 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, because in the article it indicates they will then turn on the meters once the issue has been taken care of? From the article: After National Grid has checked each affected home, and the problem has been resolved, they will return to each home and business to turn the meters back on. So then why do they have to enter the homes to begin with?? Pilot lights. You don't turn the gas back on unless someone is home or the valve is off. Otherwise the house goes BOOM! It's a public safety thing and is totally necessary. |
| ag User ID: 7596922 United States12/23/2011 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have never seen a gas appliance that did not have a thermocouple that if the pilot light goes out it automatically shuts the gas off. Quoting: MrObserver So your thinking does not hold water. Also every house has a pressure regulator to bring the pressure down to about ½ a pound going into the house so again it does not add up. The regulator is made for the psi of the gas, not the amount of psi they will use to push the air out of the main. When they purge the line, they put a purge hole at the ends of the main so the nitrogen goes safely outside and not through all your appliances. |
| star101 User ID: 1311271 United States12/23/2011 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| GONE_WILD User ID: 1405748 United States12/23/2011 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, this is UNACCEPTABLE, CRIMINAL behavior on the part of any policeman, and any locksmith, who would enter private homes without a warrant, without the owner's permission. Can you say Obama ? Ya, I know what you mean, when George Bush caused Hurricane Katrina he broke 3 jaywalking rules. Your a stupid ass wipe with a brain the size of a pea. If they used your brain as a plug it wouldn't even slow the flow. |
| Thug Cat Top Hat User ID: 7313537 United States12/23/2011 07:29 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw this on Drudge... Quoting: Laura Bow WESTERLY, R.I. (WPRI/AP) - National Grid says crews are going to door-to-door in Westerly to close off the natural gas meters of 1,600 customers as it works on a distribution problem. Utility spokesman David Graves says crews worked through the night and had secured about 800 meters by about 7 a.m. Main Street and Canal Street are among the areas affected. Not only are those streets filled with homeowners, but businesses are also impacted by the issue. "It’s going to be devastating to be without heat or power for this holiday season. It’s our crunch, time," said Molly Silva, a business owner. If no one is home at the time, police officers along with a locksmith are entering homes to shut the valves off. More at [link to www.wpri.com] Um, who has gas meters inside their home? Mine is outside where the meter reader and walk up and see it... Wow, good point. We don't have gas here so I would be unfamiliar where the valves are located. very strange. My meters are on the outside of all my properties. Not one meter & shut off is inside any structures. That would not be code. Anyone can simply walk up to my meters and shut them off. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1368473 United States12/23/2011 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same thing happened in Grand Rapids, Michigan! Just another way to do illegal entry... [link to grwest.wzzm13.com] |
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