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Are Messengers (Angels) male, female, both, or neither?

 
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Are Messengers (Angels) male, female, both, or neither?
I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
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I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
 Quoting: Vulcan4


Hi!

They have a gender inasmuch as the signs of the zodiac have a gender, and the sun and moon have a gender.
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I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
 Quoting: Vulcan4


There are many messangers in this world :)



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Re: Are Messengers (Angels) male, female, both, or neither?
Neither dude, they like much religious stuff from way back doesn't exist.
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Neither dude, they like much religious stuff from way back don't exist.
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I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
 Quoting: Vulcan4


Hi!

They have a gender inasmuch as the signs of the zodiac have a gender, and the sun and moon have a gender.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


The sun and moon have genders? What are they?
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I could say what I think angels aren't easier than I could exlain what I think they are (ie provide pearls). But first, you would have to convince me that you aren't swine.
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I could say what I think angels aren't easier than I could exlain what I think they are (ie provide pearls). But first, you would have to convince me that you aren't swine.
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*Confused*, why would I be 'swine'?
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
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Re: Are Messengers (Angels) male, female, both, or neither?
I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
 Quoting: Vulcan4


Hi!

They have a gender inasmuch as the signs of the zodiac have a gender, and the sun and moon have a gender.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


The sun and moon have genders? What are they?
 Quoting: Vulcan4


The sun is male and the moon is female. Daytime is male, night is female, light is male and darkness is female.

Electricity is male, magnetism is female.

Some angels depict a male modality, and others feminine modalities.

They do not compete.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
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The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
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Re: Are Messengers (Angels) male, female, both, or neither?
I had a discussion with someone recently. It was about 'Angels' (or more accurately, Messengers) and what they are as far as being male or female. He had told me that all angels are male. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports this. Personally, I don't think angels have a 'gender'. I believe angels are gender free. However, if messengers can also represent what we call 'alien life' from other worlds or dimentions, then it would be, possibly, more logical for them to have a gender. Anyone else have any ideas of what Messengers (which is what the ancients called them) could be?
 Quoting: Vulcan4





they are both m/f, who would think otherwise?
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Alright, why would you believe this? I mean, what makes you believe they are both? Sincere question. :)
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oh right, i see... then on that basis, a rock is male and a hard place is female, or lets just use black and white, 'cause as we're making stuff up, anything goes.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


If the 'fallen sons of Yah (God)' means the fallen angles, then yes.
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What about other texts written before or during the time of the original Hebrew texts of the Torah? How about texts that were written prior to the molestation of history by Roman Catholic priests and the monarchy?

None of those descriptions of angels matter to most Christians, because they are afraid to read anything aside from the King James' illicit version of selected texts known as the bible.
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Ok don't laugh, but this is the truth and God knows where this came from. I dreamed just last night that first a small Buffalo was jumping on me trying to hump me, and then a goat was in my bed trying to have sex with me, and finally this crazed demonic looking girl with pig tails was trying to undo my pants, to which I demanded to see her eyes and, surprise, glowing red.., of course, so I told her to get the hell out of here. Thank God I woke up about this time. Honestly, this was a real dream and I've never had anything remotely like this. You know I did give a religitard a boney finger last evening on GLP. Do you think this Bible bonehead had something to do with calling demonic angels down on me. Seriously!

Well, Angels are positively whatever they want to be. Which if I had my ways, that is exactly how I'd want it. Pretty cool idea I think.
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The only messengers in the Bible were male, they never said any thing about female messengers. There were female prophetess as there were male prophets.
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What about other texts written before or during the time of the original Hebrew texts of the Torah? How about texts that were written prior to the molestation of history by Roman Catholic priests and the monarchy?

None of those descriptions of angels matter to most Christians, because they are afraid to read anything aside from the King James' illicit version of selected texts known as the bible.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Those are the texts I speak of.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.” ~Isaac Newton
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We are called to be BOLD. ~Joshua 1:9~
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
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The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
 Quoting: Vulcan4


I read scripture in both Hebrew and Greek.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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They are whatever they want to be.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
 Quoting: Vulcan4


I read scripture in both Hebrew and Greek.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I do my studies like this as well. :)
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The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
 Quoting: Vulcan4


I read scripture in both Hebrew and Greek.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I do my studies like this as well. :)
 Quoting: Vulcan4


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So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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What about other texts written before or during the time of the original Hebrew texts of the Torah? How about texts that were written prior to the molestation of history by Roman Catholic priests and the monarchy?

None of those descriptions of angels matter to most Christians, because they are afraid to read anything aside from the King James' illicit version of selected texts known as the bible.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Those are the texts I speak of.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Ha!

Then you don't know what you're talking about.

The bible is a collection of edited texts put together (translated from at least two different languages into English) by the Roman Catholic priesthood.

And we see how much they can be trusted.

Christians are afraid to read the other texts, and most of them were burnt with the Library at Alexandria.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
 Quoting: Vulcan4


I read scripture in both Hebrew and Greek.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Just because you use a Concordance doesn't mean you are reading anything other than what the Roman-Catholics deemed you worthy to read.
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What about other texts written before or during the time of the original Hebrew texts of the Torah? How about texts that were written prior to the molestation of history by Roman Catholic priests and the monarchy?

None of those descriptions of angels matter to most Christians, because they are afraid to read anything aside from the King James' illicit version of selected texts known as the bible.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Those are the texts I speak of.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Ha!

Then you don't know what you're talking about.

The bible is a collection of edited texts put together (translated from at least two different languages into English) by the Roman Catholic priesthood.

And we see how much they can be trusted.

Christians are afraid to read the other texts, and most of them were burnt with the Library at Alexandria.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I'm aware of what the Bible is sweetheart.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.” ~Isaac Newton
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We are called to be BOLD. ~Joshua 1:9~
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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The purpose of scripture is to conceal the truth, unfortunately, not to expose it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I personally believe Scripture was written in Hebrew. The Old Covenant was and I believe the New Covenant was as well. I do not use a King James Version bible. I use a literal Hebrew translation translated by the Institute for Scripture Research called 'The Scriptures'. All names and places are restored to the original Hebrew names and places. The King James Version is full of errors and mistakes. The two best examples: The replacement of YHWH (YHVH) for LORD and Yahushua for Jesus.
 Quoting: Vulcan4


I read scripture in both Hebrew and Greek.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Just because you use a Concordance doesn't mean you are reading anything other than what the Roman-Catholics deemed you worthy to read.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Deemed me worthy? lol Look, it's obvious you believe in some sort of alien shit...I don't...no problem. You live your life how it best suits you...how it works for you...and I'll live mine in the same manner.

BTW, I saw the shit you said to TTOWN in another thread. How nice of you. Good luck chica
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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What about other texts written before or during the time of the original Hebrew texts of the Torah? How about texts that were written prior to the molestation of history by Roman Catholic priests and the monarchy?

None of those descriptions of angels matter to most Christians, because they are afraid to read anything aside from the King James' illicit version of selected texts known as the bible.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Those are the texts I speak of.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Ha!

Then you don't know what you're talking about.

The bible is a collection of edited texts put together (translated from at least two different languages into English) by the Roman Catholic priesthood.

And we see how much they can be trusted.

Christians are afraid to read the other texts, and most of them were burnt with the Library at Alexandria.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Don't you know all those other texts are from the devil, duh.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
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"scripture" says many things

for example



there are also "scripture" that says the lord will make you starve enough to eat your children and not give any of the meat to your starving children.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


"scripture" says many things

for example



there are also "scripture" that says the lord will make you starve enough to eat your children and not give any of the meat to your * reamaining starving children.
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Doesn't scripture say that the fallen ones/angels impregnated the human women?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


"scripture" says many things

for example



there are also "scripture" that says the lord will make you starve enough to eat your children and not give any of the meat to your starving children.
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Are we still talking about angels/messengers here?
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.” ~Isaac Newton
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We are called to be BOLD. ~Joshua 1:9~
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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